Mountain Bike
I think I'll give myself a mountain bike this christmas.
For years it was pointless to own one in my area--trail access was really limited. I haven't owned one for a looong time, and know nothing about the latest and greatest components.
I thought I'd tap the vast knowledge of PdC contributors to get oriented.
Am I better off building or buying?
What brands currently rule? My LBS stocks Felt.
What are must-have features--disc brakes? full suspension?
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by Drew on Nov 30, 2007 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Probably hardtail
If the dual isn't overwhelmingly better, I'd probably go with the hard-tail.
by KevinK on Nov 30, 2007 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
depends
You can get more bike for less money if you stick with the hardtail world. A light full sus is going to be spendy, and if you are mostly a roady, a heavy full sus is probably going to bug you.
Just say yes to disc brakes. Mo' stopping power. Also, they modulate more easylike, which is nicer on the hands.
by gavia on Nov 30, 2007 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oops, meant to say
Santa Cruz, Kona, Specialized. Heh, most of the biggies make decent rides.
Does Felt make a mountain bike? I haven't seen any around. Maybe I need to get out more :-)
by gavia on Nov 30, 2007 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow
I live in northeast Ohio. A billion years ago, it was a sea bed, then was glaciated, so we have rolling hills (really a plateau with numerous river valleys). The trails are typically rolling, sometimes wall steep, with gnarly roots, random boulders, and some giant sandstone formations.
I guess with the full suspension, I could do crazy stuff like jumping my bike--like I used to do on my Schwinn when I was 10.
Sounds like the discs are a must-have.
by KevinK on Nov 30, 2007 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True confessions?
Full sus would be nice for the rooty bits, especially if you aren't planning to make this your life work, and if you have some cash to play with. It's not super easy to learn to climb a hardtail over roots and rocks. Definitely doable, but not easy. It depends a little on how much of a challenge you're looking for. It's worth thinking about what the peeps you might be riding with are riding too. If everyone's on boing-boing and you're not, it might be a little less fun.
Yes, there is a pro mountain bike scene. I follow it some. It's a fun party if you can be there, but it's not as compelling as road racing otherwise. There aren't the tactical hijinx and wacky stories you get from the big road races. You don't get surprise winners too often, either.
You can survive without discs, but I'd put 'em on given the choice :-)
by gavia on Nov 30, 2007 8:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Full Disclosure
by Drew on Nov 30, 2007 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're going hardtail
What's the weather like where you live? If it's a lot of rain and muck, I'd back up Gavia and go with disc. If it's not, V-brakes have more than enough stopping power at less coin than discs. Plus there's less to wrong with them.
by Drew on Nov 30, 2007 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ooooh....
Even in dry I like the disc thingies, cuz they're easier on the hands and a tad more precise. But I do agree that there's more to go wrong with 'em. I've raced XC on V's plenty and it's no problemo at all.
by gavia on Nov 30, 2007 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The first thing to decide is what kind of budget
by Clydesdale on Nov 30, 2007 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
PS
by Clydesdale on Nov 30, 2007 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
29 versus 26
Is the 29er performance really better? It seems like that's the popular option these days.
by KevinK on Nov 30, 2007 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, You roll over stuff
by Clydesdale on Dec 4, 2007 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you do end up going FS
by Drew on Nov 30, 2007 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Full Suspension
by Jimbo... on Nov 30, 2007 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A good friend of mine has
by Drew on Nov 30, 2007 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Where do you live?
After that comes:
- does throwing yourself down a mountain sound fun?
- any objections to used bikes?
- whatcha feel like spending?
- do you have any friends who have joined the rigid SS/fixie cult?
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Jimbo, jump on a bike with discs for a good run, and then reconsider :) I had no idea what I was missing until I bought my Gary Fisher Sugar+ with BB7's. Holy crap did it make a world's worth of difference (esp. the one-finger braking).
by Sui Juris on Nov 30, 2007 7:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fun factor
DH is probably not much of an option here.
New or used is OK. I'll probably go for a new bike. I don't want to break the bank, but want good components and a reasonably light machine.
I am fascinated by the SS bikes, but strangely, not by the fixies.
Any SS recommendations?
by KevinK on Nov 30, 2007 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will do
by Jimbo... on Nov 30, 2007 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
really helpful info here
by KevinK on Dec 1, 2007 8:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna
The Kona explosif also has horiz drop-outs, and would make a pretty fun SS.
LOL, so many bikes, so little time :-)
by gavia on Nov 30, 2007 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
SS seems wonderfully simple
by KevinK on Nov 30, 2007 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure...
If your terrain is rolling, you could totally go SS. You would just run the walls, which really, can be faster than pedaling them anyway.
You just need a frameset with a horizontal drop-out, then start buildin' Can I live vicariously?
by gavia on Nov 30, 2007 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout SS rigid?
by huy on Dec 1, 2007 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just got back into MTB riding
Unlike my road bikes which I built up, I may look for a complete bike and tweak some of the items afterwards. MTB frames and components seem to be very expensive, but there are some complete bike deals which are very nice. I love this one:
http://www.coloradocyclist.com/product/display/10530/
by Mr Van P on Nov 30, 2007 11:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I meant to say
by Mr Van P on Nov 30, 2007 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the guys down here
Choices range from Mavericks, with Santa Cruz probably the most popular. Our local national champ rides a trek fuel, and there's a healthy contingent of specializeds out there. Don't overlook Haros, which provide a good ride for not so much spend.
by R Mc on Dec 1, 2007 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mountain biking in Washington (the state)
With Mountain bikes, unless you have a killer donor bike, you are always better buying complete in my opinion.
The key difference between rim brakes and disk brakes is the braking power when wet. Being around Seattle I am often riding in the rain. I currently have rim brakes and I have gotten myself in situations where I can't stop which is scary. (Some my Christmas present to me is disk brakes and wheels)
My 2 cents - Hope it helps
by Peen on Dec 2, 2007 11:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for all the comments
I'll probably go the FS route. I'll wait for a week or two to make my buy, when the bike shop owners are getting by eating their stock of power gels. The first winter storm is starting to growl here.
by KevinK on Dec 3, 2007 9:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
sorry for the delay
Frame geometry is hard to quantify/describe, but makes a big difference, I think. So demo as much as you can. Also, if it comes down to it, be willing to trade component levels (but don't drop below LX) for decent suspension (I'm a big fan of Fox, these days). Components are much cheaper to upgrade than shocks.
Finally, beware the cult of the SS and the church of the 29er.* Those come later :)
*unless you're over 6'2". When I ride a 29er, it's somewhat different, but not significantly so. That said, everyone I know who's taller than me (I'm 6'1") has found the 29er worth their time.
Anyway, good luck, and jump on with IMBA or your local club (if for no other reason than the likely discounts at your LBS).
by Sui Juris on Dec 4, 2007 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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