Rock Racing Interview
I read this interview yesterday and I keep thinking about it.
Michael Ball is the owner of Rock & Republic clothing. In Chris Horner's interview on Pez he says that he nearly signed with Rock and liked what Michael Ball was doing. They have some big names coming next year such as Victor Hugo Pena, Freddy Rodrigues, and Santiago Botero. He has Frankie Andreu as a director.
I have a few questions? Is it me, or does he sound like a jerk in the interview to others as well?
Is this an accurate portrayal of Ball? Maybe it was a bad day for him?
How did he get such good riders to sign? Why would riders like Horner considering riding for him? What is he doing that is innovative? Throwing money at a team is not innovative?
I'd really like to know what others think. I want to cheer for upcoming teams that are building the sport of cycling, but I'm finding it hard to wish this team success.
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I have a hard time liking them as well.
by Clydesdale on Dec 13, 2007 9:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He strikes me as a
He is exactly what the sport doesn't need right now, or ever.
by Drew on Dec 13, 2007 9:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'll also predict
by Drew on Dec 13, 2007 9:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I sense large automobiles and a small pee-pee
by notaero on Dec 13, 2007 9:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is true
by australopithecine on Dec 13, 2007 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Starting with his
Anybody this aggressive and reckless in an interview will not cut it in the world of pro bike racing. If his personality trickles down to the riders, they will be pariahs in the peleton. Things get sorted out rather quickly on the road, and that's not something he'll have a say over from the team car or behind his desk.
by Drew on Dec 13, 2007 10:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ball is American for Tinkoff
And speaking of Horner, another thing Chris said in his interview- that basically American pro cycling stays the same, only the names/sponsors change- is instructive here. So now one of the 5 decent American teams has an asshole as an owner. Eventually he'll bail and someone else will come in. Nothing really improving.
by ursula on Dec 13, 2007 11:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad day. A usual day.
Great riders (well, last year. Had a chance to chat up a bunch of them), totally offputting management.
by Sui Juris on Dec 13, 2007 11:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Two Things
First off, I don't think he gives a shit what anybody thinks especially us here, and for better or probably worse, that's just the way it is, but good lord he has the MONEY! The sport needs the money so damn badly right now, take it and say thanks!
Well, that's me as a bike racer and happy to have a job...but I wouldn't mind making Rock Racing money...
1.) The team has more money than Switzerland, or something like that. They've got riders on that team making upwards of six figures (if not more, I just know the one at 80,000). There are very very few teams, if any, that can boast those kinds of figures, so of course, anyone with the chance wants a piece of that - I wouldn't mind.
2.) Yeah, he's bordering on crazy, so? The team didn't come off as pariahs this year. Kayle can be a real piece of work, but apart from that, Frankie Andreu is an incredible guy in person, most of the riders were friendly - he's just the owner. I know that's not the best, but if he has the money to throw around and an image that he likes, what's the problem? We might think it's bad to see a team roll up in Escalades to a race, but do you know how sick that looks just driving down the street?
I mean, we're driving to a stage start at the Tour of Virginia in a rented Saturn and they pass by in black Escalades. I raise my eyebrows about it, but I think it's so off the wall that it's ok. Flash isn't necessarily a bad thing...attitude isn't necessarily a good thing, but at this point, he's giving almost 20 dudes a job...and a good one at that. I say rock on.
3.) It's humorous to me because my team (racing eh same races as Rock) is focusing so hard on portraying the exact opposite image - one of development (both cycling related and beyond), growth, encouragement of cycling within the community, and then there's Rock...yeah...about that.
4.) And the team kit thing was played up a lot, but not quite true. They got a lot of kits, but not a new one for every race. I think it might have been more like every block of racing. Maybe. I still think that's pretty cool-ish...non-static kit, but still the same basic design and idea.
So basically, I don't know...one part of me think it's funny and moderately cool, and another part of me wants to vomit when I read that article...
by jered on Dec 13, 2007 12:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not saying
But, what's going to happen if the owner isn't getting his expected results at each race? Who's he going to take it out on and what's going to be their reaction? I just think he comes across as a blowhard and a buffoon to the general public. I'm sure more than a few of his team, and the other teams, take this with a grain of salt and smirk. But his trying to come across as the new, ultimate badass team owner (win of you're fired!) makes him sound like a poor cross between Steinbrenner of the 90's and Donald Trump.
by Drew on Dec 13, 2007 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just win baby
by hughw on Dec 17, 2007 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Actually, I did talk to him once in a bike race and he ignored me. He must not have known who I was. I'm kind of a big deal.
ha.
by jered on Dec 13, 2007 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
heh. What was that line from Singles?
Except that wouldn't be a punchline here, would it?
by Sui Juris on Dec 13, 2007 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I"m guessing that no one
by CannonDowell on Dec 13, 2007 4:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Glad he's got an audience...
But I'm willing to admit that I'm probably not the target audience for this team's image. I hope he takes the audience for excalades and bling and makes them want to do double centuries.
Face it, cycling is a bizarrely white, largely middle-class / upper middle-class sport. If they break past that barrier, more power to them.
I'm betting that kids who crave the bling may go to freeride and build up a bike.
www.freeridepgh.org/
I'm betting that more of his younger fans will ride a bike than will ever own an escalade. And those who do drive may be more polite to cyclists.
by JFS_PGH on Dec 13, 2007 4:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Leogrande...
Didn't seem like an a-hole!
If you read the Horner response to Ball's claims, you'll see that he offered him a bundle but on a DAY TO DAY Contract.
With the "if you don't win, you're off my team" attitude, it's easy to see why.
As for the team itself- I like 'em! Enough to pincha few bottles from them during the Clarendon Cup.
Bashati's win there was awesome!
by DemonCats on Dec 13, 2007 4:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
one more time

by Sui Juris on Dec 13, 2007 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did like his
by Clydesdale on Dec 13, 2007 5:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Money
I worry that he will put a great deal of pressure on his riders to win or lose their fat paychecks. I realize that applies to all cyclists, but I'd be more cofortable if he had an extensive anti-doping program.
As far as expanding the fan base of cycling to more than rich, mostly white people, that sounds good. Escalades are expensive - does that really expand the fan base?
I also don't like his comments about Horner after not being able to sign him. It sounds like immature sour grapes and not the words of a mature leader.
by John.. on Dec 13, 2007 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I kinda hope he does well.
I know that all of us here think that cycling is plenty "cool" enough but domestic racing is largely ignored by the general public and potential sponsors. If he can get a few more people to pay attention to an incredible sport, more power to him.
The "win or you're fired" attitude is troubling but honestly, isn't that an implied mandate for any professional athlete?
Regarding Horner - his comments weren't totally unjustified. He has always been pretty high on himself. After coming back to the US from FDJ, all he did was whine about not being paid more to race in Europe (he also won every domestic race possible but please - a little modesty.)
by pbrmeasap on Dec 13, 2007 8:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is completely off subject
by pbrmeasap on Dec 13, 2007 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's reckless
But my impression is that though he calls for changes in the sport--many needed--he's not going to be a constructive influence on the sport. His comments are too reckless.
Even if his team meets his demands for success, he will be a pariah in the sport with his current attitude. [R Mc] mentioned upthread that Ball is analogous to Al Davis. A fair analogy especially when one considers the many lawsuits that have occurred between Al Davis and the NFL.
If there's a cycling equivalent of nouveau riche, it applies to Ball. I wish his team success--and continued paychecks--and I wish Ball maturity and wisdom.
by sawgrass on Dec 13, 2007 11:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
If I was an owner that demanded success, part of my contract for that success would be my assurance to properly support the riders to give them the best chance for success.
Is Ball choosing to spend the money to make that happen?
Or he is cutting corners on support needs and instead spending on things like glitzy Cadillacs?
I dunno but the answer would be a litmus test to his chances for success.
by sawgrass on Dec 13, 2007 11:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ouch
by Chris... on Dec 13, 2007 11:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Finally!
"Go on, little American pro cyclist, you take your $1,500 a month and you live!"
'Bout time someone turned up and said it didn't have to be like that. "Aw shucks, you mean when the season's finished, I can put these wheels on eBay? Thanks a million!" If he can turn some heads as an a-hole, more power to 'im.
by 72andSunny on Dec 14, 2007 1:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
whoa there
by jered on Dec 14, 2007 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rock Racing = Mafia Racing
I was very pleased to read Horners rebuttal to all the trash the Mob Boss was spewing.
While I am in full agreement with him that there is a desperate need for a riders union, and I even believe, like he said, that a single person could get the ball rolling (excuse the pun) ...but I would hate to see this douche be the ringleader of that circus.
One thing that really rubbed me the wrong way was the way he talked about crits. He says he has riders that will be enforcers. Does he plan to bring hockey goon tactics to road racing?
Can someone point me where I need to go to get in line to give this guy a fierce cock-punch?
by Keithfbcyl on Dec 14, 2007 11:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely 72andSunny!
We either don't hear from them or they become very diplomatic during an interview. If your going to race you might as well win. And if you don't win you should figure out why and work on it for the next race. Do you think Boonen does'nt want to win every race? If these guys are making 80G a year they have no reason not to be in top form because most of they guys their racing against have parttime jobs to supplement their income so their working instead of training not to mention proper accomodations to,from, and during a race. Rock on!
by Brandontw9 on Dec 14, 2007 11:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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