Versus... Why Not Live?
It's not yet 6am on Saturday morning, when we'll be convening for the first Monument of the season, but if it were, I could flip on the Versus Network and look at the following options over the next couple hours:
6-7:30: Consumer Product Showcase
7:30-8: Safari Hunter's Journal
8-8:30: JImmy Houston Outdoors (fishing)
8:30-9: Fishing with Roland Martin
9-9:30: North American Fisherman
And on it goes. Meanwhile, by Sunday evening Versus will have produced 90 minutes of decent quality coverage of Milan-San Remo, plus another half hour on Tirreno-Adriatico.
It forever mystifies me why Versus won't show the races live. Consider the following...
- Can the network executives seriously be putting their kids through college on the backs of "Jimmy Houston Outdoors"? I know I'm a snob, and will always fail to appreciate whatever value there is in these shows. I'm sure it has something to do with low production costs -- how many of these shows cost more than a jug of So-Co, an ads-for-merchandise trade with the Cabela's catalogue, and $100 at the gas-and-sip? Still, even the cheapest production doesn't matter if the audience in these early morning time slots is truly marginal. People who actually hunt and fish are outside this time of day, and there's no urgency for the audience to dial up VS at 7am with several networks showing hours and hours of this stuff, day and night. Whatever these shows bring the network at these time slots can't be much... can it?
- Cycling fans, meanwhile, are a completely captive audience. Not a large enough one to get the major networks excited. But... Versus/OLN have stuck it out with six months of the Cyclysm for two post-Lance years now. They are putting enough money into Cycling to produce crafted shows with a mix of interviews, product stuff, studio babble and race footage. Bobke, Phil and Paul, etc... they're already on the payroll. How much more would it cost them to show the races live, and do the recap later (a la the Tour)? There's gotta be an audience for the live cast, beyond the recap show... and I'm convinced Versus wouldn't have to double down to get it. They've already made the investment.
- There could be a steep price increase in the rights, but Versus should be sharp enough to put a lid on that. Say Versus wants to show the Tour of Flanders live, but HNB says they want an extra mil to show live footage, above the cost for replay rights. No way would Versus have to pay that. Any race besides the Tour should consider themselves lucky to be aired live in America right now. Maybe not someday... but for now the American market is the great untapped resource. HNB will want in. They'll also know that Versus is the only bid they will get for the rights. So either they accept what Versus can afford to pay, or get bubkis. Given the relative negotiating positions, something reasonable should be worked out.
So why isn't this happening? Maybe one or all of my assumptions are wrong. Maybe Versus is lazy, or doesn't care. Maybe nobody knows the Cycling audience is out there. Maybe Versus executives are very sensitive and Cosmo hurt their feelings. As usual, I have more questions than answers.
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The mid-weeek Tour of California coverage was even worse. Condensed into an hour, they repeatedly missed pivotal aspects of each day's story, while making time for fluff-pieces.
I know it's gotta be about the money, but c'mon. The supposedly value-added stuff their padding evening re-broadcasts of the TDF with? How many times can they play the same 5 commercials? You know Saab got a package deal.Grrrr.
by mychal on Mar 24, 2007 3:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on this, my brothers. I email them
Chris, you make some excellent, eloquent points. They've ponied up the money to carry NHL games, and some kind of college west coast-mountain conference football games (no offense)but live cycling? Nope. Just MHO, probably born of waking up early on a Saturday to read streaming comments online instead of being able to watch live racing. C.tv's really spoiled me this past year, that's for sure. Gonna go make coffee and work out, maybe get some of this aggression out of my system this morning!
by Ruthann on Mar 24, 2007 7:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
VS channel paradox
I am glad they cover cycling at all, but I don't understand what they are trying to do with their coverage. Why spend the money to edit the race and produce a slick program instead of just showing it live?
Cycling.tv is probably the way forward for cycling coverage. I assume, over the years they'll get more of the races, and will improve the service.
by KevinK on Mar 24, 2007 7:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd pay more for cycling.tv
by KevinK on Mar 24, 2007 7:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The best time to go fishing is?
by flying dog on Mar 24, 2007 7:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The kind that's
by Mr Van P on Mar 24, 2007 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One who isn't catching any fish
Honestly, how much does it really cost beyond transmission rights and paying the on air talent?
by Drew on Mar 24, 2007 8:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It just hit me
by Chris... on Mar 24, 2007 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Possibly
by Drew on Mar 24, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK guys...
And frankly, I think the audience for cycling is pretty small compared to those willing to watch fishing shows.
It's ugly but it's true.
When it comes to channels like Versus, you have to follow the ad revenues to see what gets broadcast. And there are plenty of sponsors willing to drop bucks on Bill Dance and Jimmy Houston and PBR and World Combat League and the rest.
Lots fewer sponsors willing to fund effete euro sports like cycling.
It goes on and on. Eventually, the niche sports will find a home on the Internet, and cycling.tv could truly be the future home of cycling in North America provided they can solve some of the technical problems and start marketing with even a modicum of intelligence (No fast-loading schedule web site? No RSS feed? No blog?? No written content??).
A few years ago we got P-R, Giro, TdF and Vuelta live on OLN, and I sadly believe that will be looked upon as the high point of traditional broadcast coverage in the United States -- at least until an alternative channel like Cycling.tv matures.
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by TCWriter on Mar 24, 2007 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the other problem
Even if the audience for fishing shows is the same size as for cycling (and I'm not convinced it's all THAT much larger really), the production cost for a fishing show is dirt cheap compared to what it costs to cover a bike race.
Point-to-point cycling was designed to be covered by journalists--when you stop to think about the logistics and equipment to cover it live, it's a wonder that there IS any coverage.
I know it's heresy, but I think that technology has developed to the point where criteriums or circuit races could be covered via on-bike cameras and with the telemetry of power/speed data for the cyclists, with the results making for television at least as compelling as nascar. It would take a 5 year investment (maybe less--I've forgotten about You-tube) to build a market, but if you could cover a course with stationary cameras instead of moto cameras, the average spectator would get a better sense of speed. The on-bike cameras (I'm thinking of the descending shots from Zuri-metzgete especially) provide race action that is as rich as the on-board cameras nascar and f1 use. Just my opinion . . .
by R Mc on Mar 24, 2007 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But
Your idea about on-bike technology is interesting. OF f course these guys are all bigger weight weenies than Pete, but someone I'm sure can be bought, a domestique someplace.
by Chris... on Mar 24, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is...
Compare the numbers from the live telecast of the Bassmasters finale in February to any cycling event.
You're certainly right about the production costs, though again -- the competitive fishing shows are probably spending on a par with cycling events. They've got cameras everywhere, helicopters, multiple hosts on a dedicated set.
They can do all that because fishing manufacturers are willing to sponsor. Cycling manufacturers aren't. Why? The market's tiny by comparison...
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by TCWriter on Mar 24, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember watching
by Mr Van P on Mar 25, 2007 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
Those years I lead the local P-R homage ride the day before (we found every bad dirt/gravel road we could in the Shasta Valley) and then got up the next morning and watched the race in my Hennie Kuiper footed pajamas.
Life will never be that good again.
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by TCWriter on Mar 25, 2007 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK the ad part
by Chris... on Mar 24, 2007 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many Niche Sports are There
There's rugby, lacrosse, cricket, badmitton... various motor sports.
Ya know what makes more sense than the cycling.tv model is doing a VS type approach via the internet... By aggregating a bunch of sports or specialty events together you could afford to build decent infrastructure. Call it "the effete sports network (EfPN)"
I wonder how subscriber revenue compares with ad revenue. A monthly subscription could really bring in some serious scratch.
Anyone interested in working on a business model? I've got the technical side covered.
by KevinK on Mar 25, 2007 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that seems to be the answer...
by ELVISGOAT on Mar 25, 2007 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't scoff!
If you can cobble together all the enthusiasts from cycling, cricket, badmitton, etc... it wouldn't take long to start touching 100k subscribers.
by KevinK on Mar 25, 2007 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wold Cup Skiing
by Mr Van P on Mar 25, 2007 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WCSN is already doing something similar...
It's an interesting channel that doesn't carry a lot of cycling (they had the cross worlds live) but they are aggregating coverage from a lot of sports (track and field, skiing, badminton, wrestling, etc).
Sounds like your business model, and their Web site is filled with written content and doesn't make you load the damned player just to visit...
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by TCWriter on Mar 25, 2007 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's very cool
by KevinK on Mar 25, 2007 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the Worlds
by ghisallo on Mar 25, 2007 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not scoffing one bit
by ELVISGOAT on Mar 25, 2007 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Totally Agree
David
by FredCast on Mar 25, 2007 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would
by Clydesdale on Mar 26, 2007 9:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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