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Le Tour '07: The Wide Open Roads

First, I can't tell you how nice it is to blog about something other than another stage of another training race. Not exactly feeling refreshed after a jam-packed, thrilling Giro d'Italia, I have more or less had it with trying to hang with the peloton every day when, like the riders themselves, I'd rather be gearing up for the race of races. I've also had it with Cycling.TV, a vital service to the English-speaking world... but which plays on a screen that is 10% as large as I wished, when it's not disrespecting my Mac. I want a break, then I want to watch racing on the TV, with Phil and Paul, and without the broadcast competing with my blogging. Hello July!

There is much work to do in getting ready for the Tour, though it won't be easy. As noted in a column I wrote two weeks ago on the Tour's one-hit wonders, the battle for yellow will feature no past winners for the second year in a row, but for only the third time since 1988. But there's more to it than that: none of the favorites come without asterisks caveats.

Alexandre Vinokourov is an all-rounder with a history of occasionally blowing up on long climbs. Alejandro Valverde is an even better all-rounder, with a history of getting hurt, and last seen turning green in the Rhone Alps. Andreas Klöden has the best Tour track record, but is a supporting cast member on Astana. Cadel Evans, Levi Leipheimer, Denis Menchov, Carlos Sastre... all guys who had their chance last year or earlier, to no avail. Mick Rogers at least can say he hasn't had his shot yet, and maybe that's why a T-Mob win would be the best story of all.

The points competition, by comparison, is littered with distinguished characters: past winners Thor Hushovd and Robbie McEwen, past world champions Oscar Freire and Tom Boonen, and whatever you want to call Alessandro Petacchi. But Ale-Jet, after a steady, powerful romp, has struggled with his form for two seasons, as Hushovd has this year too. Freire is always either winning or hurt, usually the latter. Boonen was last seen in France talking to himself as guys like McEwen, Freire and Jimmy Casper kept taking him on the line. McEwen is has the fewest known hurdles, unless you count turning 35 and a knack for relegations.

We'll sort it all out over the next two weeks, piece by piece, and unlike the Lance years in Yellow or the Zabel years in Green, the debates probably won't end til the race does.

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GC:  the consensus here is that the race will be won in the time trials--at least that's what Astana is counting on, but I'm guessing that powering through a 55k tt in the third week of a grand tour is a difficult task to plan for, especially if you've had to burn multiple matches in the mountain stages.  I'd look for the time trials to be big anti-climaxes--unless, of course, they leave the door open for a Dave Zabriskie come-back.

What fun it will be to watch the Kloden/Vinokourov battles . . . unless, of course, Hildi is so used to being brow-beaten that he's happy with being the tour contender who was never given a chance by his own teams.

Forget Menchov unless he takes yellow in the last time trial--Rabo's team is not built to control a race (can you imagine the sight of Freire on the front??).

Also, forget Sastre, unless he takes 10-15 minutes in the mountains.  As well Valverde, who will crack at km35 of the first time trial (assuming he makes it that far).  Also, Caisse d'Epargne has the makings of another T-Mobile for in-squad dissension, unless of course, Unzue can get Karpets, Efimkin and Rodriguez to be the new Beltran and Rubiera.

I'm very hesitant to write anything nice about Leipheimer, given his penchant for race-losing bad days, especially since he has delivered race-losing mountain stages and time trials. BUT, he's not ridiculously skinny like he has been the last couple of years, and he hasn't peaked too soon--and, he potentially has Padrnos, Hincapie, and Nozal to help control things.

And that's about all I can muster for gc.  Green jersey will go to the best sprinter who can survive the mountains--Zabel or Petacchi.  I'm rooting for Zabel, just for the hypocrisy that would engender.

What I'm really interested in, though, is calculating the amount of time that will be spent by the French teams on hopeless tv-time breakaways or chasing down the meaningless kom jersey points in the first week.  How much time will Sylvain Chavanel have lost before they get to the mountains?  Will Voekler's tongue have to be surgically removed from a moto-cam lens?

by R Mc on Jun 25, 2007 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Klodi/Vino
Klodi and Kash will be higher on the GC than the Vino at the midpoint of the race. That will be a nightmare for the other teams. The Vino can send one of his comrades up the road and enjoy the ensuing melee. As we all know, "Vino will attack".

I think the TTs might not be as big a factor as everyone thinks. They come later in the race, and the riders will be depleted by then.

I'm not sure Sastre needs a 10 minute pad to win, but he definitely will need a pretty healthy lead to get to the top step.

Valv.piti and Vino are the heavy favorites, with powerhouse squads. The team leaders that have crashed out of the tour seem to do it on a regular basis, so with Valv's 0% success rate, I'd guess he'll go pavement surfing again.

I think they are planning to mount a camera directly to Voeckler's bike this year.

-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rabo
Might not be as thin as you think this time:

Michael Boogerd, Bram de Groot, Thomas Dekker, Juan Antonio Flecha, Oscar Freire, Denis Menchov, Grischa Niermann, Michael Rasmussen and Pieter Weening.

Dekker, Boogerd and the diesel engine known as Juan Flecha? You could do worse.

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, but
Those guys giving up the chance to go for a stage win to pace Menchov around?

Only if winged-pigs are hiding around in some of those lavender fields will that happen.

by R Mc on Jun 25, 2007 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boogerd will bury himself again for Menchov.
As for the rest of the squad, it does seem rather unlikely.
Vlaenderen die Leu

by Peter Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

An American will win again!
Levi finally has the form, experience, and the team to win a TDF. This is the first year I have seen Levi race and actually have teamates around him. Valverde has never finished a Tour, Vino and his team will blow up from attacking each other, Rodgers!?, Menchov is a stage winner at best, Sastre could never handle the media, Cadel Evans only does well enough to have his name mentioned for the next year and certainly does'nt have a team to support him. A Tour team can only support one star and that's McEwen. It is an extremely open Tour but barring injury Levi is my pick with George winning another stage somewhere along the way.  

by Brandontw9 on Jun 25, 2007 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Astanii attacking eachother
I've come to appreciate the Khazakh school of racing; they actually race. It must be a nightmare to compete against them, especially in a three week race. Ugh. Can you imagine attempting to cover all the breaks? Ouch.

I think, if there is in-fighting between Klodi and Vino it might be for the top podium spot in the final TT. Everything I've seen Vino do leads me to think he'd be disappointed if Klodi beat him, but I don't think he'd constrain Klodi from winning.

-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Does Valv.Piti have a problem with falling down?
One knee injury in 2005 + one freak accident in 2006. It seems a bit harsh to start labeling him as weak and unlikely to stay the distance. I would say his slow fade in last years Vuelta is a bigger questionmark in that case.

by Jens on Jun 25, 2007 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess it's a symptom of the times, but...
...when you wrote:

> But there's more to it than that: none of the favorites come without asterisks.

The first thing I thought was..."really? All of the favorites have possibly been linked to a doping scandal?

I feel like Levi has to be the conventional wisdom favorite right now. The only thing is that he seems to always find a way to lose. If I were a betting man, I think I would take the odds on Vino's year-long rage getting uncorked for three-weeks of Kazakh whoop-ass.

I hear that Astana has hired a platoon of Borat impersonators, who will all take turns goading Vino up big climbs. He can't lose.

by Chester @ Podium Cafe on Jun 25, 2007 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The Khazakh rage theory worked
in the Vuelta. I think it will probably work in the TdF, too.

I love the Borat squad visual--I hope some drunken roadside spectators pick up on the theme.

-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Vino needs a teammate...
...lead him up a climb, Astana could initiate their "Plan B" and have said teammate strip off his jersey and bibs to reveal a yellow slingback g-string swimsuit thing.

Vino would go nuts.

by Chester @ Podium Cafe on Jun 25, 2007 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right
I think I meant "caveats" but was too tired to come up with the word.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah..."asterisk" made perfect sense...
...I would've interpreted "caveat" in the same way, more or less. Though...I guess "caveat" is more specifically indicative of what you meant rather than my jaded assumption.

by Chester @ Podium Cafe on Jun 25, 2007 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odds
http://www.oddschecker.com/other-sports/cycling/tour-de-france/win-market

Vino is the heavy favorite among the gambling world.

Valv.Piti is next.

Klodi is third.

The odds climb drastically as we get to Cadel, Carlos, Levi, and Menchov.

Meteors, floods, and animal attacks seem required for the next batch of contenders.

-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Screw the odds
They don't help me with the sick feeling I get when I try to convince myself that Vino will win.  Something keeps whispering in my ear that he's just not that good, just not that consistent, and his TT speed won't save him.  As for the rest of his team, which is a powerhouse, the other GC contenders won't look at them as monolithic bloc because they aren't.  I see them faltering just enough to leave the yellow wide open .

I don't have a favorite though oddly Sastre's blah performance in Switzerland is bring back last years Landis DL performance and we know how that turned out.

by ursula on Jun 25, 2007 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Sastre's chances
I'd give him better odds than the gamblers do.

He's had a chance to really prepare for the Tour this year. He's got that "get stronger during three week races" quality (as do Evans, Klodi, and Vino). Also, he's not afraid to attack. Plus, CSC will really ride for him.

I'd like to see Carlos win, but I believe I might be basing that on hope more than reason.

-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I share your hopes
I just can't get past those 117 km's of ITT. He's done decent TT's in the past but realistically he will lose a lot of time there.

by Jens on Jun 25, 2007 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he can limit it to 5 minutes
combined... That's a lot of time to give up. Three mountain top finishes; three attacks, a minute or two on each. That's asking a lot of him, and expecting nothing from Vino or Valverde.
-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard to pick Vino for me, but honestly
I just don't see him losing this.  Do you honestly see him suffering the big blow-up or not winning the final TT (at least among the contenders).  He's been a TDF top 5 guy for years, and now he finally gets a shot without having Lance, Jan or Basso to contend with.  And he has the best team.  

Game..set..match.  

Vlaenderen die Leu

by Peter Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts
Valv.Piti, if he even gets a chance to start, has a bad run of luck in the Tour, and will have huge T-Mobilesque issues with his amazingly strong team. He also had the issue of faltering in the 3rd week, which doesn't speak well to his favorability

Vino never does well on the first mountain stage, and if the teams are smart this year, as they should be, he won't be able to get away (the stage to Briancon is the only possiblity I see, but quite frankly, I don't see Il Falco making it far enough to use his crazy descending skills.

Sastre and Schleck are an interesting combination because they have one of the more underrated teams, but still an amazing one: Cancellara and Dave Z can hammer the TTs; Julich, Dave Z, Jens, and probably some others are solid support riders, and Stuey can hammer it on the flats (and, as we saw in Zuri-Metzgete, is still able to hold his own in some smaller climbs, which is a bonus) and even an outside Green jersey possibility. I think that CSC has by far the best all-around team, and some of the best support. They have the ability to win countless stages with many riders, and have one of the most consistent climbers (Sastre), and a good support rider who can hold his own with the best on some stages (Schleck). Both have the Achilles Heel of the TTs, which could seriously favor Dave Z

Menchov? If he can do it without huge team support (although, TDekker, ~:>, and the tooth monster aren't bad, plus Flecha's pretty strong as well) in the early stages, and without ~:>'s help on the big mountain stages, I can see him having a shot. Sadly, I don't think he's really good enough in the mountains on a consistent basis (last year's Tour was kind of a disaster in the Alps)

Levi is another interesting possibility. I think he's got his preparation right this year, for one (except for the weak Dauphine, and perhaps a painful crash), and has the team to help him out. Devolder, Gusev, and Hincapie are strong climbers for support (and not too shabby on their own), and Contador and Popovych are both some decent GC contenders who will work for him completely (until he cracks, then... who knows)

Cadel and Moreau were both showing good form, but in Cadel's case, I'm concerned about lack of a strong team (Horner isn't much, really), and for Moreau I think he peaked too early, or may be gunning for the KOM jersey rather than a real GC spot. If he's got his Dauphine form though, I would not count him out.

Jose Angel Gomez Marchante of Saunier or Zubeldia, Sanchez, or Anton of Euskaltel could surprise , as they are all good climbers, but only Gomez or Sanchez can really time trial well enough for have a shot. Mayo could pull something, but I think he's going for the KOM jersey.

The sprints all depend on who can climber over the mountains without dying. Boonen has never made it, which is bad for him. Robbie also has a bad run of luck in the mountains, and Petacchi is gonna have some trouble, too. Zabel, O'Grady, and Thor are my guesses to win it, and I'd put my money on Thor to win it.

KOM? ~:> is my favorite because of his domination last year. David de la Fuente, if he's racing, could put up a fight, but I think Moreau and Mayo will be his big competitors for it.

White jersey:
This could be an interesting one, I think. I'll have to look at some of the (possible) startlists, but here's my thoughts: Thomas Dekker, Bernhard Kohl and Marcus Fothen, Remy Di Gregorio would be my best bets. Dekker's the best Time Trialist, and none of those guys can stay up with the best anyway (except maybe Kohl), so I'd place my bets on Thomas Dekker for it.

by BDBrian on Jun 25, 2007 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Oscar the joker
Here's an entertaining scenario. Oscar manages to get into the yellow jersey early in the Tour.

Does CdE dump support for Valverde? Do they not support the theoretical yellow jersey winner from last year's TdF? The mind reels. I hope Oscar can make that story line interesting, just for entertainment value.

-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cd'E
Let's see who they send, but I think they could field two GC squads, three riders each supporting Valverde and Pereiro, with the ninth rider either doing something else or helping whoever is placed higher at the time. Wouldn't that be interesting?
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we seriously discussing Oscar for the GC
Who's going to be this years "Stupid Santa", handing him 30 minutes on a silver platter? The only DS with that kind of dumbass-potential I can think of is Godefroot.

by Jens on Jun 25, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right
Sorry, I should've caught myself.
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha
Karpets is the more likely scenario for a 2-pronged GC attack. But still not at all likely.

by BDBrian on Jun 25, 2007 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We must work on our Karpets
puns in advance. With this much notice, we should be able to completely outdo "curtains for Karpets".
-K-

by KevinK on Jun 25, 2007 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shaggy Karpets
    They've used that at DP for years.
The S. Obedient Flying Dog Boy

by flying dog on Jun 25, 2007 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know if he attacks
or goes on the break it has to be "Wall to Wall Karpets"
The Gravity Assisted Flyers

by Clydesdale on Jun 26, 2007 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Question
Speaking of Pereiro, who are the most likely GC wannabes (both legit GC guys and hangers on like Periero) who might find themselves in Oscar's position last year, of being down a ton after the Alps?  (Remember Popo almost acheived Pereiro's comeback the stage before.)

In other words who's most likely to lose the GC race before the 1st TT unless gifted by the field/takes advantage of the tactical battle up front to slide back into contention?

by ursula on Jun 25, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I could see Rogers in that role
First mountainday troubles combined with the weight of those wonderful "no pressure but joo must vin or joo are useless scum"-comments from german media, could kill his chances early. Not sure how he will cope with leadership pressure.

by Jens on Jun 25, 2007 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember how well
he held up under Lefevere's useful "he must win the prologue or be a miserable failure" confidence talks a few years ago . . .

by R Mc on Jun 25, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting Question
if Rogers is hurt, there's a candidate. Gomez Marchante maybe?
Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mick Rogers
From VN:

"My condition is much better than this time last year," he said. "Before I retire from cycling I would at least like to be on the podium of the Tour."

WTF is that?!? the guy's 27. This is the kind of thing guys say when they're hitting mid-30s and haven't accomplished their dreams. Rogers should be talking about a podium NOW and a win sometime in the next five years. Dude, think big!!

Got a problem? Va fa Napoli!

by Chris Fontecchio on Jun 25, 2007 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

See Lefevere confidence-talks above
Maybe his only fault is being dumb enough to listen to Lefeveres GT-wisdom.

by Jens on Jun 26, 2007 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

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