'08 Redline Conquest Team Bike Build
This Sunday I raced in the first race of the local 2007 'cross series. I've raced three cross seasons. One season on a mountain bike, the second season, I rode a Kona "Jake the Snake" cyclocross bike and this year I built a bike based on a Redline Conquest Team frameset and a hodge-podge of components. I wanted to solve problems I had with the Kona (namely too heavy!), and build a bike that could stand up to my 220 pound body, and I think I've managed to do that.
The Redline + Ultegra bike weighs 20 pounds loaded with the pedals, and full bottle. So far, it seems like it will easily survive a full cross season. I use the R600 wheels on my road bike, and they have been very durable. They survived a bumpy hard packed course with no problem.
Build, don't Buy
This article is more a write up on my methodology for building the redline bike, rather than a review of this frameset. My main conclusion is, if you're getting into cyclocross, you should probably build a bike (with the help of the LBS if necessary) instead of buying an off-the-shelf machine. I spent some time this summer trying to hunt down a good deal on a complete bike, and didn't find anything close to what I assembled in terms of price or components.
I realized last season, that a good 'cross bike (something I knew little about) is basically a good road bike (something I knew about) with a frame that has clearance for mud and nobbies, and a crankset with smaller chain-rings (e.g. 36/46). The manufacturers that offer complete bikes seem to have a different view. Perhaps they are aiming at a more general audience, so their "cyclocross" offerings are spec'ed out more like road/mountain hybrids, rather than road bikes.
A bike that's comparable in price from Kona is the "Major Jake", and for $2000 you get a mix of 105 and Ultegra components. A bike that's comparable in components from Cannondale is the Ultegra SL Si, which is a whopping £2,399.99! ($4800 the only price I could find online is in pounds, sorry).
The Frame and The Fork
I've ridden the bike twice, so these are my first impressions. I dialed in my position to match my road racing position with a 30 mile ride on pavement and hard packed trails and grass, then I did a 45 minute cyclocross race.
The race course had a little of everything: two techincal sections that required some bike handling: sharp descents through switchback turns, and two sets of stairs that required dismounts, two long straightaways, and one section with several 180 degree turns.
We've had perfect autumn weather here in northeast Ohio, so the course was dry, and the soil broke down to a fine powder as the field pounded through corners and over the crest of small rises.
The Redline frame is lightweight Scandium tubing and is extremely stiff. It did not budge under maximum torque. I went with 700x34 Vittoria tires, and pumped them to 90 PSI for this course. Stiff frame + hard tires + dry course should be a bone rattling combination. Nope. The Ritchey WCS carbon fork soaked up the bumps on the straightaways, even at full speed.
The bike was very stable and went exactly where I pointed it on the switchback descents, and along an off-camber "cliff-side" section of the course. I was happily able to make quick course corrections several times, and avoiding running into people and obstacles. It was a little truck-like through the 180 degree turns.
The frame is cleanly assembled, light, and worked well with all my components. The top tube is ergonomically designed to be carried on the shoulder--that was actually noticeable during the race.
My conclusion is the star of the bike is the carbon fork. I really appreciated the light front end when running up the stairs. If I build another 'cross bike any time soon, I'll use another Ritchey carbon fork, and I'd probably use another Redline frameset.
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around $2K
My LBS charged $130 to assemble everything. Initially I was going to just have them do the headset--I don't have those tools. I just turned the whole job over to them, and picked it up the next day. I like wrenching on my bikes, but not that much.
That course looks and sounds
by Drew on Sep 24, 2007 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
I do the "B" race
My goal for the start of the season is to not get lapped. I almost did it, but got caught right at the end by the leaders of the field.
I am ahead of where I was at the end of last season. The lighter bike makes a big difference. I was actually running up the stairs this year instead of loping, or using my bike as a walker.
This course is probably my favorite of the whole series. The technical section, with the switchbacks, is genuinely fun.
B's are always competetive
by Drew on Sep 24, 2007 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Some very nice pictures of
by Drew on Sep 24, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
Nice article
(Except you should wrench your own bike, you lazy sod.)
haha
I did spend at least another hour tweaking and shuffling the bars around. Plus the mechanic installed the conneX link upside-down (a previous discussion here about that topic was fresh in my mind) so my hands actually did get dirty.
I also noticed that they used a whole assload of loctite on the BB. I think bike shops must use 50% of the world's loctite supply.
Last season I did the same thing
Similarly, I bought a pair of Dura-Ace wheels (about four years old) off eBay for a couple hundred bucks. They've since withstood about a thousand miles of on and offroad riding without complaint.
I bought a pair of high-end British brakes--Empella Doglegs--for a hundred bucks, but eventually scrapped them because they sucked so bad and replaced them with a $40 pair.
Anyway, you don't need to hear about all the other stuff--Ultegra compact, mostly Ultegra other stuff with 105 shifters and DuraAce here and there.
Anyway, I agree: a build-up is the way to go, but use eBay, and you'll save 40% on some items.
I spent more than I planned
I was looking at the Giant frames initially. I like them. I'm used to the compact frame design for the road; it seems like an even better fit for 'cross. Maybe I'll go that route next year. I finally have a good stable of bikes and components and wheels, so I can just swap the frames. Several people around here are riding Redlines, so I had a chance to get a good look. That's what sold me.
The cyclocross boom is pretty interesting. The cross races I've been to are slightly better attended by racers and spectators than the local road races. (Both road and cross seem to be at a low ebb in popularity in northeast ohio--I notice that the field is graying.)
The manufacturers seem to be fairly far behind the curve. It seems necessary to put in some work to get a good bike.
I think cross attracts people for two reasons
Also, because of the nature of the course it's easy to watch 3/4 of a the race from one spot. If you are in the mood for just a bit of jogging you can see usually see the entire race from two spots.
Spectacle + ease of viewing + potentially terrible conditions = terrific fan turnout.
There's a reason 2500+ people turn up in Gloucester, MA every year for the men's elite race. And why 15,000 Belgians will turn out for a UCI race.
by Drew on Sep 25, 2007 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
Buy vs. Build
I plan on getting the TREK as soon as it's available (November) and modifying it slightly to make it a 1x10 drive train. This should be a lot cheaper than building something comparable.
Just a suggestion:
Try running a lower tire pressure. 90 PSI is really hard for any conditions. I have a set of Maxxis Raze clinchers and have been using them between 40 and 50 PSI.
I lucked into a super sweet deal
I'm bummed, shop owner says don't worry he's going to Interbike the next day (score!). He comes back a week later with a fully built Ventana El Martillo cross bike. 105 drivetrain, Avid breaks, Ritchey OCR wheels. I give him my old 1998 Rocky Mountain road bike + $600 cash and we call it square.
And it's still running like a champ 20 races and 3 winters later.
by Drew on Sep 26, 2007 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
Nice
Every year, Trek and Cannondale run out of current year cross bikes in early August and don't start supplying shops with next years bikes until November. How does it make sense to not have bikes to sell when demand is the highest?
Nother reason X attracts people, or at least me
Also, buying a decent cross bike is the perfect way to buy a road bike you can ride in rain and snow and also developing world cities.
I'm starting to gather a nice
by Peter Fontecchio on Sep 26, 2007 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I run a fairly standard set up
by Drew on Sep 27, 2007 10:42 AM EDT reply actions

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