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Am. Bf. Cont'd...

As an addendum to my post below about the emergence of a Mexican cycling team at the top level of Europe, and because it's Friday, here are my top five best cuisines in the world.

  1. Italian (I'm biased)
  2. Chinese -- kind of cheating, because it encompasses about ten different subsets. If you insist on a singular region, let's say Sichuan.
  3. Mexican
  4. Thai
  5. Spanish. I'd prefer to say Japanese here, but it's not quite diverse enough to pass the marooned-on-an-island test.

We'll start a second thread around 300 comments or so.

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Shall I kick off then?

1. Chinese — I am SERIOUSLY addicted to sweet and sour. I could eat it all day.
2. Moroccan — I love the flavoursome sauces, the creamy and minty tastes and the interesting combinations of ingredients.
3. Italian. Nothing better than sun dried tomatoes.
4. Thai. Totally swayed by the business lunch I got taken on the other day. Exquisite, especially the duck.
5. Russian — maybe an odd choice to some but if you’re in London you must dine at Nikita’s. Warming, wholesome dumplings, scrummy stroganoff and mouth watering cakes. Just be careful of the free vodka. I learnt my lesson.

by Albertina on Oct 10, 2008 3:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Chinese=Thai=Mexican=Indian=...

“Weird meat, funny music, side of rice.”
- Barney

by cg. on Oct 10, 2008 3:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Indian...

Hm, I could easily swap out Thai for Indian. Also just off the list is Lebanese.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 10, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd never had Indian

Until I had it 3 times in small villages while cycling across Wales …. go figure

very tasty!

by cyclingchallenge on Oct 10, 2008 4:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I had it 3 times in small villages while cycling across Wales

You stopped three times in one afternoon?

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 10, 2008 4:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You stopped three times in one day?

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 10, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But in Wales? Why? It’s full of … Welsh people. And rain.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 10, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

English cuisine

Well, lets say that Indian food looks REAL good right quick there. Best Indian food I’ve had has been in hole in the wall joints in England — even over Bangalore.

by hkbirke on Oct 11, 2008 12:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

click me

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 11, 2008 5:45 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh god, that's brilliant

thank you, thank you, thank you.

by JFS_PGH on Oct 12, 2008 11:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And...

Hot weather food
1. Indonesian
2. Chinese as served in Indonesia
3. South Indian

cold weather food
1. Swiss
2. Dutch

Anytime
1. Normandy
2. Tuscany
3. Thai
4. rest of France, rest of Italy

by JFS_PGH on Oct 12, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and mexican and american-italian are, by now, US food.

Not foreign. Like curry in london. Despite that wonderful link from fmk.

by JFS_PGH on Oct 12, 2008 11:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No fans of HIMYM

out here?
… Anyone? Anyone?

by cg. on Oct 10, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mmm

1. Mexican
2. Mexican
3. Indian
4. Mexican
5. Everything else, it’s all good! :)

by gregm on Oct 10, 2008 3:59 PM EDT   0 recs

01 Turkey/Greece – tzatziki , baklava, kebab, falafel
02 Japan – curry, sushi, ramen
03 Italy – Mario
04 France – yes it’s not food, but their cafĂ© culture is unparalleled
05 Mexico – cheep spicy food is always good in my book

by OctaBech on Oct 10, 2008 4:01 PM EDT   0 recs

I find the Lebanese baklava to be better

by Hons on Oct 10, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

uh oh

here comes the great baklava flame war of 2008…

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sweet :-)

You got marshmallows, right?

by gavia on Oct 10, 2008 5:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sushi!

then….
Mexican, Indian, Middle Eastern and Italian.
And the spicier the better!

by Veloki on Oct 10, 2008 4:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Well, here's mine

French
American
Mexican

Food that makes me gag:
rice
fish
broccoli,
etc.

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 10, 2008 4:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Gagging foods?

Cucumber and melon.

by Albertina on Oct 10, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh noes

Sorry, just noticed that this might be taken as an innuendo; gagging on sausage.

It was not my intention. :(

by OctaBech on Oct 10, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the boy doth protest too much, methinks

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 10, 2008 4:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Honestly, I do have standards when it comes to humour

The truth is that I just can’t stand sausages, especially not the big thick German ones or those filled with blood.

This unidentifiable meat mass forced into intestines(what sick person invented this?) just doesn’t do it for me.

by OctaBech on Oct 10, 2008 5:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nah

not a sausage fan either. if i were to un-vegetarian ever, sausage would still be waaaay out of bounds.

when i go to authentic mexican tacquerias, i skim very fast over some parts of the menu. not for me.

by gavia on Oct 10, 2008 5:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's much to be said for German sausages and mashed potatoes

With a side of kraut and a couple liters of the brauhaus’ finest. That my friend is heaven. Unless of course you are vegetarian. But if you are a vegetarian in Germany, you are probably bound to die a slow painful death :)

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 10, 2008 6:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I love sauerkraut, in contrast to most people.

And German beer? Yum. Last time I went to the Great British Beer Festival I spent most of the afternoon by the little German beer bar. Kinda wrong but hey.

by Albertina on Oct 10, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

The beer is vegetarian, though. Yum :-)

They fed me a lifetime’s worth of brussel sprouts when I lived in Vienna. But it was all good. I loved the wine, beer, cheese, pastries, eh, so many things.

by gavia on Oct 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

especially not the big thick German ones or those filled with blood.

Now that is an innuendo

by Hons on Oct 10, 2008 5:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh no, not this!

It will trigger another post.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 10, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've always wondered about vegetarianism and blood consumption...

…ever since, as a kid, I read about the Masai bleeding cattle periodically, rather than killing them. I mean, it’s clearly not vegan. But if you get over the “yuck” factor, it’s an interesting idea. It seems like its not very painful (you know how your scalp can bleed like crazy from even a painless cut). And it is not as resource intensive as meat, and not lethal. Probably at least as trophically efficient as milk and milk products, and possibly more so, because breeding isn’t required.

Granted, modern blood sausage is probably all from slaughter, but a) it needn’t be and b) if you’re going to kill something, using it all up seems like a righteous sort of idea (if that’s the sort of thing you get righteous about). Also, you get a lot of iron and flavor, so 50% or more of the sausage (by weight) can be rice or some other binder, and it still seems like a sort of meat, even with low animal content.

According to this site, bleeding of cattle was also part of Irish farming. (“Selection may even be for animals able to withstand regular bleeding to supply blood for human consumption which was important in the Kerry cattle of Ireland at the beginning of the 20th century and is still important in the herds of cattle belonging to the Masai tribesmen of Kenya.”)

I try to taste blood sausages in various places, and have found some pretty good ones. The Azores have a variant that varies from maker to maker, but (by taste) seems to generally have some white pepper, black pepper and cloves, and maybe something juniper-like. It’s always served grilled, with a side of fresh pineapple. Morcilla is also pretty interesting. Boudin noir? Better (so far) than my experience with English black pudding, though in theory it’s about the same concept. I think it’s the oatmeal (stodgy rather than chewy-gummy when fried).

As for other bits…
brains: yummy but not safe or available in the mad cow / scrapie era. They probably burn them as infectious waste by now.
kidney: too much soaking and blanching if you don’t want to be highly aware of their source. But, again, a little goes a looong way.
sweetbreads: yum.
chitlins: they were properly called shitlings for a reason, before the name was bowdlerized. Lots of hot sauce required.

by JFS_PGH on Oct 12, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

eh, no thanks

Gav <—— vegetarian

by gavia on Oct 12, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd eat everything in that case...

Well, at least I’d take a nibble. Intestine, stomach, and gland meats aren’t usually my cup of tea.

by The Team Chef on Oct 10, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You should try an Orthodox Easter

After fasting through Good Friday and Easter Saturday (and having some odd restrictions on the preceding days), everyone goes to a midnight service then comes back to a soup made from the dodgier parts of a whole lamb. Lungs, blood vessels and the like. It’s surprisingly tasty when you’re hungry. Next day you get up early to spit roast the lamb carcass, alongside a sort of homemade sausage made by stuffing the other funny bits inside the cleaned out gut. At least the men sit turning the spit, helped by lots of glasses of raki, while the women do the rest of the dinner. Peeling vegetables and the like.

by Monty. on Oct 10, 2008 5:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Very cool.

That is what makes food so special, especially amongst other cultures . Unfortunately, the traditional American upbringing is devoid of these wonderful eating rituals.

by The Team Chef on Oct 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You Orthodox?

I went to an orthodox service on their last Christmas. Loved it. I adore all the music and ceremony. And the meat sounds like a good extra!

by Albertina on Oct 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nah

but lived in Greece for a couple of years. Was it a normal Orthodox Christmas or one of the hardcore factions that still works on the Julian calendar?

by Monty. on Oct 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Normal depends

some orthodox have it on 25th December, others on 7th January. I don’t know which is more popular. Easter is even more mixed up. Not only do they have it on a different day to the Catholics, but there are a couple of competing factions in the orthodox church. I cna’t remember right now what the others are called; think of them as orthodox orthodox and heterodox orthodox.

by Monty. on Oct 10, 2008 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we have both factions right here in Pittsburgh.

They sometimes get a bit snippy with each other, but also trade recipes. I so love this city.

by JFS_PGH on Oct 12, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ugggghhhh!

Don’t get me wrong – I’m certainly a fan of proteins but, seriously, ick!

by cg. on Oct 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

I simply do not understand melon.

by gregm on Oct 10, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hurrah! So I'm not alone!

All my friends say “but it doesn’t taste of anything” which annoys the hell out of me. If it didn’t taste of anything I’d eat it.

by Albertina on Oct 10, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't understand why people put up with tasteless or rank or slimy or unripe melons

If they are not one of the most intense fruit flavors and perfumes you have experienced, you’re paying for an idea, not for the real deal. Same with figs. Bring them back, pitch a fit.

If someone gave you a dried-up orange or an apple gone brown, or a pale tomato that tasted like styrofoam with hints of mold at the stem end, you’d know something was wrong.

Charentais are hard to ruin, and usually shipped ripe. If you don’t like a ripe charentais, you don’t like melon. Otherwise, you quite possibly just dislike crappy fruit.

by JFS_PGH on Oct 12, 2008 12:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hm

so the broccoli sushi roll is pretty much the bottom of the barrel then?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 10, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

gag!

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 10, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Define American

Are you meaning southern food? I can’t really think of anything else that would be considered American.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 10, 2008 4:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Burgers and Fries, baby

Meat and potatoes. Steak and Salad. Fried chicken and mashed potatoes and gravy. Anything fried in lard and then salted. You know, American food.

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 10, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and

dipped in chocolate?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 10, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

chocolate for dessert

sure.

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 10, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We had In and Out Burgers today

and I though of this thread while eating.

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 11, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I live on rice, fish, brocoli, etc.....

You can pass your servings on to me.

by Veloki on Oct 10, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

One man's pleasure

is another man’s poison. Here ya go, Veloki! :-)

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 10, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oops that didn't come out right

your pleasure…my poison…etc.

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 10, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if you'll share with me :-)

yum, i heart me some broccoli.

by gavia on Oct 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I juice all my veggies

get ’em down quicker that way.

"The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." Dr. Horrible

by bethie on Oct 11, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Two lists here

a food list:

1 Greece/Turkey – Lots of lamb, souvlakia, sweet sweets smothered in honey
2 Belgium – Chip vans with a choice of a hundred different mayonnaises
3 Italy – Meatballs
4 Thai – all those non-macho curries
5 Hungary – well somewhere that does lots of stews and soups. One pot meals with lots of bread for dunking.

and a coffee list:

1. Italian – best espresso in the world
2. Turkish – the grittiness is an acquired taste. But the best Turkish coffee I ever tasted was in a grotty little cafe in the middle of Paris. The added cardamom made it extra special.
3. French – Could easily match Italian if they didn’t insist on adding too much water.
4. German – The coffee is nothing special, but add a huge dollop of proper cream on top and a plate full of sticky cakes and you soon forget.

by Monty. on Oct 10, 2008 4:20 PM EDT   0 recs

coffee list .... nice touch

Beer:

1. Belgium – anything by a trappist monastery
2. Belgium Beer – something blonde
3. German
4. Czech
5. More Belgium beer

by cyclingchallenge on Oct 10, 2008 4:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, Belgium

the only country where every beer has its own, specially shaped, glass. While kids in the rest of the world are learning to put the square block in the square hole, baby Belgians are carefully trying to not pour the Chimay in the Duvel glass.

by Monty. on Oct 10, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ha yes - their beer glasses are an art

It is amazing the inventory of beer glasses in even the tiniest of bars.

And any bartender knows he will be fired if his glass doesn’t match the beer

by cyclingchallenge on Oct 10, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

Vienna was like that, too. I never did master the mysteries of the glassware. I just took what was offered. And another, danke sehr.

by gavia on Oct 10, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Turkish coffee

big, big ups. Improbably, my best experience was in the Pike Place market, on the same block as the original Starbucks store. Somehow, methinks the wrong brand went viral.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 10, 2008 4:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1… now if I can only remember what that place was called.

South Indian coffee with chicory rules too :)

by hkbirke on Oct 11, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

turkish

I studied abroad in Vienna. Turkish coffee, yum. The first time, it confused me. After that, it was all quite fabulous. Viennese coffee is a beautiful thing all the way around.

Italian. Duh.

Though, not Italian, the House of Gav brews up a damn good shot of espresso.

by gavia on Oct 10, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i like the coffee list

1. Italian espresso
2. Italian espresso
3. Italian espresso
4. Turkish
5. Dutch – yes, Dutch, in one of those nice cafes in Amsterdam…

by nickel17 on Oct 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs