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Lance to Giro: Si, Grazie!

Lance Armstrong has announced that he will ride the 2009 Giro d'Italia, whose route is due out soon. Not exactly a shock, as he had been making some noises about having regrets for never going to la Corsa Rosa before. And from a competitive standpoint, he's not in much of a position to place all his bets on the Tour, after two years off and with Contador in the mix now. So if he's committed to racing the Giro, not as prep for France but to win, he might nab a grand tour after all.

As for the race, I'm sure they're thrilled. Media-wise, it's not easy keeping up with the Tour and a somewhat rejuvenated Vuelta. Presumably Zomegnag, when he visited Lance in Austin two weeks ago, promised to cut down on the transfers (17 last year) and throw in a long time trial. Anyway, I know opinions of Lance are pretty mixed here and elsewhere, but the thought of him doing races of this magnitude, freed of the clampdown tactics of his later tours, sounds bloody entertaining.

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good.. a gt other than that tdf...

hey, maybe versus will cover the giro completely… hasn’t done that since 2004

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 13, 2008 10:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Links

Lance’s video announcement at La Gazzetta dello Sport

AP article

by majope on Oct 13, 2008 10:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great PR

I have to say that it’s impressive to see Lance taking advantage of video technology and talking directly to the world, instead of relying on dumb press releases. He has some savvy handlers, and (as far as I can tell) a decent Italian accent.

I am not thrilled about Lance’s comeback, but I’ll take him at the Giro over the Tour any day. Maybe he’ll do DiLuca’s programme and do Liege and Amstel as warm-up.

by samboo on Oct 13, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

talking directly to the world,

saves press conferences where he might be asked uncomfortable questions

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 13, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for me this is exciting!!

siad the disco/postal fan boy

far more exciting than LA riding the TdF

by cyclingchallenge on Oct 13, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.

by crashdan on Oct 13, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+3 on the the "this is exciting"

but I want him riding the Tour to win also. (Greedy fangirl!)

by cg. on Oct 13, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's about time.

I had hoped during Lance’s final year that he would have gone after some of the Classics and the Giro. Had he added, say Liege/Amstel/Lomabardia, and the Giro to his palmares, I would rank him somewhat higher on the legend totem pole. I suppose it’s better late than never.

I would still prefer that he take the start in the Ronde and/or Roubaix. Hinault despised both of these races, yet won PR just to prove a point. Lance should have skipped win 7, and honored the sport by paying respect to some of the other epic races. I think he’d cull more favor with the “anti Lance camp” if he were to leave the Tour off his schedule and focus on other objectives like the Giro.

by The Team Chef on Oct 13, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Correct. Well, sort of.

I’m not suggesting Lance should have been, or should become, a Classics rider in the mold of Museeuw or Bettini, but almost all of the legendary multiple GT winners have won at least one Monument. These would include Merckx, Coppi, Bartali, Magni, Hinault, Anquetil, Gimondi, and Bobet. Conspicuously absent from this list are Lemond (although he came damn close to winning several of the Monuments) and Indurain (although he did win San Sebastian in ‘95). To Armstrong’s huge credit, he was WC in ‘93, and won San Sebastian in ’95. I’ve no doubt Lance was capable of winning any single day race he wanted, and that’s why I’m not a fan – he obviously just didn’t /doesn’t care about the sport’s rich history, and his place in it, outside of the Tour.

by The Team Chef on Oct 13, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's won fleche...

and how many seconds at amstel?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 13, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Armstrong is/was a great champion.

He has also won the GP de Nations, US Champs, GP Eddy Merckx, Tour du Pont, Tour of Luxembourg, Tour of Switzerland, the Dauphine (2x), and the Midi Libre. None of those are Monuments, and neither is Fleche or Amstel. A rider of Armstrong’s stature should have made a strong showing at the big ones – Milano, Flanders, Roubaix, Liege, and Lombardia. 20 consecutive Tour victories is not going to change my opinion.

by The Team Chef on Oct 13, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After further review,

he’s got two 2nd places in Liege (both before his first Tour win) . Does anyone know if he ever participated in Milano, Flanders, PR or Lombardia?

by The Team Chef on Oct 13, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did Flanders in his last(latest) season

Thoroughly unimpressive, but I think it was more of a symbolic hat tip to Hincapie than a serious effort.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 14, 2008 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly what he was doing, even stated so before the race.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Oct 14, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with Moser...

I believe this when I see it. It’s easy to make headlines and videos in the offseason.

Speaking of the Giro, until the silly Kohl thingy interrupted, I was writing a course rumors post. I’ll have it up lates. Promise :-)

by gavia on Oct 13, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Looking forward to

seeing my May vacation plans.

Great news all around. Much like Team Chef said, I always hoped Lance would go out by pursuing the Giro and the classics that he always professed to love. Here’s hoping he goes for GC in the Giro and rides support in the Tour. This seems the most likely course.

This would be the first time the US audience really gets to see the Giro and, if Lance is competing on a high level, it won’t be the last . I wouldn’t be at all shocked if Zomegnan altered the course profile a bit to help him show well. And without Contador, Ricco, and Sella there, who does he have to beat?

Basso?

That would be weird indeed.

by Mr 60 Percent on Oct 13, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he does do the Giro

then a lot of other teams will probably have their arms twisted by their sponsors to send along stronger teams. It’s one thing sending along a bunch of no-hopers when the only people who see are Italians and cycle geeks, but if more press are there then the pressure to make a decent show will be greater.

by Monty. on Oct 13, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what do you mean "US audiences really gets to see the Giro"?

oln use to cover it in full… last one was 2004

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 13, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops, forgot "the first time"

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 13, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

live??

Don’t recall…

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 13, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2002, 2003, 2004

i think also 2001 and 2000…..

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 13, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC

in my DC days, OLN wasn’t on our cable system. It’s not technically why we moved to Seattle, though it factored into our thinking.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"though it factored into our thinking."

If i find out that’s true, I’m putting you down as “geek”.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 14, 2008 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

This was 2003. Live streaming video was almost nonexistent.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Oct 14, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you left dc in 2003? you had the wrong cable provider...

tho by that time, i had dtv…..

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You say "geek"

like it’s a negative thing?

by Katiek on Oct 14, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ f(x) = 1/x

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.

by crashdan on Oct 15, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's call them "the spoiled years"

… and the only that followed “the painful years.”

by dheadrick on Oct 13, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmkay

I’m having far, far, too much fun with these course rumors. Who knew?

I’ll probably have it up tomorrow, though, not today. Too. much. fun.

by gavia on Oct 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope that whichever American network covers it

hires Greg Lemond as their main correspondent! Now that would be funny – Lemond just hounding Armstrong the whole race! “Hey Lance, didn’t see you at dinner last night, what were you doing?” “Lance, it’s great that you’re in Italy again, don’t you get a lot of your medical care here?”

I guess that’s not a very nice thing to say…but hey, it would be damn funny.

by plinytheelder on Oct 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You are warped!

It would probably make a good SNL skit, though…

by dheadrick on Oct 13, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

VERSUS

Here’s the viewer feedback email: feedback@versus.com

Here’s the “Contact Versus” webpage: http://www.versus.com/article/view/740/?tf=footerArticles.tpl

I don’t know if they listen, but let’s send a few emails and letters to let them know that we want to watch the Giro in 2009. I just did.

by dheadrick on Oct 13, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no, versus does NOT pay attention to feedback, e-mails

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 13, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad attitude.

Send the emails. There’s nothing to lose but one minute of your time, and Giro coverage to win. The possible Lance appearance is a springboard for more Giro coverage.

by dheadrick on Oct 14, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sent an email.

Can’t hurt. Thanks for the info.

by majope on Oct 14, 2008 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

personally, i'd prefer ctv's coverage to versus... and, of course, rai-international

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2008 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

si...

For me, it’s all about RAI for the Giro.

by gavia on Oct 14, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he'll race the mother loving VUELTA-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

if it gets focus to the proper place: curing cancer.

cuz when cancer is cured, there is FAR less of a chance of someone with massive skill winning the world championship at a young-ish age and then getting testicular cancer, somehow benefiting from a cocktail of every substance currently banned (for treating said cancer, PEOPLE!) and then gaining super cycling skillz to win 7 (+?) tours de frances.
right?

by djebel714 on Oct 13, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LA Inches Further Away From Le Tour
I’m excited about riding the Giro and I’m definitely coming to try to win because there’s a chance that the Giro will be the only three-week stage race I’ll ride. There are still doubts about the Tour de France. Everybody knows how important it is but with the problems that I’ve got with the organisers, journalists and fans, I could get distracted from mission, which is to focus world attention on the fight against cancer. I hope a diplomatic and pacific solution can be found. Before announcing my comeback I contacted the (Tour de France) organisers but I still haven’t had an answer. Is there a chance they won’t invite me? Anything could happen but I find it incredible, a kind of own goal. I want to be in Paris but with a relaxed atmosphere.

The Comic, quoting Gazzetta dello Sport

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 14, 2008 7:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Damsgaard out at Astana?
The seven-time Tour winner explained once again his desire to fully cooperate in the doping controls, which includes his own personal testing. The results will be made available on the internet. “Don Catlin is an authority and has an indisputable reputation. But I will also be tested by WADA [World Anti Doping Agency], USADA [USA anti-doping agency], UCI [international cycling union], IOC [international Olympic committee, USOC [USA Olympic committee]. I will be available to everyone, anytime.”

From CN

No mention of the Damsgaard program. Either they are ditching Damsgaard in favour of Catlin, LA is excempt from the team test program or Lance is getting forgetful with age. Has anyone read anything on this?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 14, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Dams contract

is up at the end of this season with Astana. So, it’s definitely possible that they will switch to some sort of Catlin thingy.

by gavia on Oct 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC, it will be in addition to damsgaard

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I'm with Moser?" says gavia

I read Moser’s comment about Lance’s comeback and his participation in the Giro. This guy sounded completely clueless about Lance’s activities during his “retirement”, and he also just comes across as a guy jealous of Lance or bitter about something. As far as being clueless, I wonder if Moser knows that Lance’s retirement hasn’t been about resting on a couch and getting fat like LeMond. The guy has been running marathons at a pretty wicked fast pace and looking extremely fit. His recent performances on a mountain bike are nothing to scoff at either. I look forward to the Moser’s like gavia eating a huge helping of crow. But I also welcome more Moser’s to speak up and provide Lance with even more motivation, not that Lance has ever lacked motivation. Keep it up you skeptics and naysayers and bitter, clueless Moser’s.

by sminer on Oct 14, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems to me

Gavia was only saying she’ll believe Lance rides the Giro when he’s on the start list.
Maybe this is her way of using reverse pschology to insure he does ride the Giro.

If so – brilliant!

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Oct 15, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude...

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.

by crashdan on Oct 15, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the preferred nomenclature is asian american, Dude

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Oct 16, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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