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They're All Classics

Every year around this time I begin to reflect a little on another season of blogging, and it's a pretty short walk from "it's been educational" to "I can't believe what I wrote last spring." What can I say, uneasy lies the head that wears three years of searchable archives. Anyway, this year's first big post-season realization came a tad early, with one race left on the calendar. I can't find it, but sometime this spring I tried to categorize riders into a handful of distinct classes: climber, sprinter, rouleur, Paris-Roubaix behemoth, and grand tour specialist. Or something like that, and from there I neatly slotted riders into the races which supposedly fit the same label.

Well, fortunately that didn't exactly become habit. For now, I've come to the conclusion that there is generally a set of races called "classics" and a general set of riders who love to ride them. And while within these groupings there is some distinct variety, it's not proper to talk in terms of only certain subsets being suited for certain races. You can take the opposite approach of eliminating some folks. For example, the big-body power guys like Boonen or Cancellara don't have any shot at Liege-Bastogne-Liege, and the small, spry climber types like Cunego or Rebellin will never, ever win Paris-Roubaix. But for the most part, classics guys from Ballan to Valverde will be vaguely in contention at any classic they apply themselves to.

On the flip: a new rating system!

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So here's my thinking about how to categorize the classics: a one-to-ten scale, where one is purely flat and ten is climbing madness. Now, I realize that Paris-Roubaix and Paris-Brussels are both flat, but the comparison ends there. Well, no matter: the 1 rating is not an insult to Paris-Roubaix. ALL CLASSICS ARE HARD. The rating is simply a matter of style.

Then the riders: Oscar Freire is maybe a 1-6 rider. Damiano Cunego is probably a 4-10 guy. And so on. I'm not going to run through the complete list of riders now, though you can (coughUrsulacough). But I will run through the races. Incidentally, you could probably do the reverse: rate the races as a range and the riders as a single number. But riders are dynamic and race routes are, you know, static.

The races... a partial list (to which you're invited to add):

Het Volk: Just enough climbing to get you excited about Flanders. 3

Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne: Jan Kirsipuu is a past winner. Nuf said? 1

Monte Paschi Eroica: Barely a meter of level ground, though no single climb will break anyone's back. 4

Milano-Sanremo: A completely amusing event, kilometer after kilometer of dullness until suddenly the race hits the coast and the season's first monument explodes into a mad scramble over some intriguing terrain. Flip it backwards and it's a 1. But as it is, the few climbs wind up mattering quite a bit. 3

[And for the record, yes, I am having fun.]

Dwars door Vlaanderen: Robbie McEwen is a past winner. Still, there are a few bergs. 2

E3 Prijs Vlaanderen: The Flanders warmup, usually features about 60% of the climbs. 3

Brabantse Pijl: Meh. 1.5

Ronde van Vlaanderen: Hm, better skip the 1000 word description and just point out that hills do matter. Particularly when they hit 20%. 5

Gent-Wevelgem: It's important not to get stuck drooling over the Kemmelberg. The winners are almost all sprinters. 2

Paris-Roubaix: Possibly the hardest day in the sport. Maybe not, but it's close. 1

Scheldeprijs: For the love of god, Mark Cavendish won. Cavendish! 1

Amstel Gold Race: The race didn't used to finish on the Cauberg, and guys like Olaf Ludwig and Erik Dekker won here. The message is, the 33 climbs (or whatever) don't really eliminate too many riders. It's merely the uphill finish, on the Cauberg, that has shaped this as a climbers' classic. 6

La Fleche Wallonne: Watching the finish on the Mur de Huy is possibly the most painful moment of a classics fan's entire year. The menu isn't as packed as Amstel, but good god! 7

Liege-Bastogne-Liege: To me, this is the signature climbers' race. Yes, the climbs at Lombardia are longer, but far fewer in number. Moreover, the finish is one final uphill drag, ensuring that even if you somehow hang with the mountain men over La Redoute, the Cote de St. Nicholas, etc., you've still got to go uphill fast to win. The honor roll is completely devoid of sprinters, rouleurs, etc. 10 

Clasica San Sebastian: The perfectly balanced classic.Among the winners are Gert-Jan Theunisse and Xavier Florencio. Romans Vainsteins was once third. Pedro Delgado was once second. Confused? Not really. It's just a race for everyone, or more specifically, the Jaizkebel will only reward the climbers if they earn it. Exactly halfway between 1 and 10: 5.5

GP Ouest France-Plouay: I grew to appreciate this race in '08. Very cool, very hard. Twelve circuits of 19km with three ascents each. I suppose it resembles Amstel more than any other race on this list? I'm a little underinformed here, but what sounds right to me is... 6

Vattenfalls Classic: The organizers have done what they can to introduce some challenge to it, but it's still very much the province of the sprinters, if they can keep the breaks under control. 2

Paris-Brussels: Only included here because it's a prototype. Picture Paris-Roubaix with warm weather and a nice fresh coat of pavement. BOOOOOring. 1

Giro dell'Emilia: A hidden gem, though not if I have my way. 7

Paris-Tours: I'd mistaken it for Paris-Brussels part deux. Really, it's mostly flat but has some very interesting little wiggles at the end. Not quite as decisive as MSR, so let's call it... 2

Giro di Lombardia: The other climbers' classic. The Madonna del Ghisallo may be 45km from the line, but the Civiglio and San Fermo are right there. Taken together, it's a climbers' race and the honor roll is a parade of climbing stars. 9

and for good measure...some notable one-offs:

Beijing Olympics: I'd say the field were pretty well crushed by the constant ups and downs. Cancellara tries to give lie to the climber rating, but the guy's a great descender. 7

Varese Worlds: Everybody sold this as a climbers' race, and in the end it was, even if an Italian Flandrian stole the show. 7

Mendrisio Worlds: Apparently 20% more vertical than Varese, but we haven't seen it run yet. 7.1

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American Classic

Nov 2008 by Chris Fontecchio - 90 comments

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I think there needs to be a supplementary cobbles rating. RvV has plenty of hills, but it’s not a race for the pure climbers – they’d probably have more chance at M-SR and P-T

I can’t really rate the lesser belgians

Het Volk:5
Monte Paschi Eroica: 3. Not actually Cobbles, but still…
Ronde van Vlaanderen: 7
Gent-Wevelgem: 2, with the neutered Kemmelberg they had last year.
Paris-Roubaix: 10
Scheldeprijs: 1

With recent winners including Basso and Simoni, the Giro dell’Emillia looks like the most climby classic to me. Not that I’ve ever seen it, alas

I’d give Varese a 5, and Mendrisio a 7. Varese could have been a sprint, if the tactics had worked out that way, but Mendrisio will be tougher.

by William H on Oct 16, 2008 6:45 AM EDT reply actions  

instead of cobbles, you could call it "technical."

Though that lumps cobbles, narrow, fast descents, the Eroica white dust. And plot it on a 2D graph.

by JFS_PGH on Oct 16, 2008 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some distinctions

Shouldn’t some of these just be one day races instead of classics. If they all have that moniker, it takes away from their meaning somewhat. I mean Eroica may be a classic one day, but right now, it’s just a two year old one day race. Also, aren’t the hilly “classics” completely different then the flatter ones like PR? Different riders, different skillsets,etc? Maybe Chris you could break it up a bit more? Not that I’m pressuring you or anything. I understand the grading scale, but it kinda over simplifies it.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 16, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Forgot to say, some of these are classics mostly in the country they take place in

Some, like PR and Flanders, are considered classics everywhere. You know, different strokes and all that.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 16, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

your point about the word classics is well taken. But when you see guys like Gilbert and Kirchen finishing high up in Flanders and Liege… this is my point. Maybe they’re not as distinct as I’d seen them.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 16, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct about Eroica

To qoute my favourite fictional president :“it’s not classical music if the guy finished writing it this afternoon”

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 16, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, awesome :-)

I’d agree that classics and monuments need a little ageing before becoming classics and monuments.

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dr Ursula can fix what ails you

Just let me get through some work stuff in two weeks that let me at this blog… Meanwhile I’m making mental diagnoses.

Good stuff here.

by ursula on Oct 16, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

C’mon over to the Gossip if you need an espresso to get ya going on that. Also, we stole your rulers and the compass circle drawing doohickies for an art project. Uh, if you need them back, we’ll try to find them for you. Also, we borrowed your lab coat for a halloween costume. You didn’t need that did you?

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Says who?

You know, that might just win the Turner Prize….hmmmm.

by Albertina on Oct 16, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes it is!

It is! It is!

And how do you know that was what we were doing? Maybe we were doing something really, really important and stuff.

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y'all have more

pictures of Bennati than John Malkovich had pictures of Kennedy during “In the Line of Fire.”

How we’re going to avoid a Beatles like stampede at the ToC is beyond me……

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Oct 19, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come visit.

I am pretty sure there is a thread around here where CrashDan offered up the floor of his place to all of us.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 20, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be nice but I don't think I can really afford it...

…what with buying a new bike and a new flute within a very short space of time. So sad :-(

by Albertina on Oct 20, 2008 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let me know if you need the felt markers back

I think I left them in the back art room. The red and yellow are all used up though, from that Pinarello experiment.

by Veloki on Oct 16, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, man

these posts so make my head explode. i’m going to look at some pictures now.

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

yes!

just saw that over on the italian sites. yum :-)

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

he was in the second group

It’s not a totally flat course by any means. Paolini and eh, I’m forgetting just now the third guy. I’m aiming for a gossip page this afternoon, i’ll put a little racey recap in there, just for funsies.

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Piedmont

How can the region that hosts the Winter Olympics, not to mention its share of Coppi exploits, feature a sprinters’ race?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 16, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

new rule

If Benna wins, it’s definitely a classic. It’s simple, really.

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn, she scooped the gossip column...

LOL, really, the staff here at the Gossip World Headquarters is slacking today.

Blame the espresso machine, which is FINALLY heated up now. Sheesh.

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Among the like bazillion tabs I have open right now is one with that link ready and waiting to drop into the column. I was so happy I found it. Alas, you beat me to it ;-)

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

exceellllent

A Benna researcher. I can’t believe we don’t already have one.

You’re like so hired right now.

How are you at ghost writing?

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ghost writing? You mean you want to pass off my work as your own? Ha!

We will have to have a little talk about that!! You just tell me what you need. I do an excellent line in Benna related photos, videos, and random trivia on everything from his dog to his favourite holiday destinations. If only one could get a living wage from such a job….

by Albertina on Oct 16, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

no ghostwriting?

you mean, i actually have to write my own material?

life is so freakin’ unfair…

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's hardly stalking....

all one has to do is look at his website!

by Albertina on Oct 16, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

but if you want a living wage, you have to make it sound more difficult than all that…

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree Albertina, googling Benna's name constantly is stalking...

and having him on out hit list for TdF 2009 is just …mmmm …. damn i’ll call it making friends hahaha..

by CycleGirl on Oct 16, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

certo

in this case, more is definitely better.

by Jen See on Oct 16, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Job share, yes, good plan.

CycleGirl being in Australia can cover the hours when I’m in bed and vice versa. Sorted.

by Albertina on Oct 17, 2008 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly the women here

Spend too much time in front of the computer. Get out more.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 17, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

pfft.

I just went out and ran for an hour. Now I’m going to settle in at the computer with a couple of slices of pizza and surf me up some lycra.

by majope on Oct 17, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip the pizza, there are only two places it can go

One is the thighs and the other is the…

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 17, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be such a meany. You will make us girls cry.

Pizza is entirely compatible with an active lifestyle….

by Albertina on Oct 17, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmm, yes

had a fabulous one last night. bene.

by Jen See on Oct 17, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

add

chocolate and red wine to my list…

really, there are so many reasons to ride a bike. i can’t choose just one.

by Jen See on Oct 17, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yeah

so heart me some cheese.

by Jen See on Oct 17, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gromit, is that you?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 18, 2008 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tsk tsk

I thought that everyone knew that Wallace was the cheese lover. And where is Gromit going to put that cheese anyway. Seeing that he doesn’t have a mouth.

by Monty. on Oct 18, 2008 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

What? They didn't both eat cheese?

I thought it was their shared passion,

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 18, 2008 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pizza Leg Syndrome...

Just say no to the slice! ha ha. Check out Nick’s video. So damn funny.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 19, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

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