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UnZipped Edition.

Here at the Gossip World Headquarters, we have two unbending rules. Always wear black bibs. Always keep the jersey zipped. The billowing unzipped jersey, so untidy, so uncouth. What a strange article of clothing bib shorts are. Much better to keep them covered.

But all rules are meant to be broken, aren't they? No, we have not taken to wearing white bibs. The horror! But the jersey zipper, it has crept all the way down, down to the bottom, the ends set loose to flap along in the breeze.

California in the Fall is a strange planet. A visitor might be excused for failing to notice any season at all. For a few days, the onshores blow, the fog rolls in. We reach for our flannels, brew up a pot of coffee, dig out our base layers and full-fingered gloves. But always the desert has her say. And before too long, the fog melts away, the sea breeze evaporates, the sun beats down on the blanched and browning hills. There's fire in the air, and the desert reaches out, greedy and grasping, all the way to the sea. To ride up into the hills is to descend deep into the belly of a hair dryer. Unzip! Yield to temptation, and feel the desert's hot breath caress your skin.

Forgive us, for we have sinned.

Star-divide

We begin today in Sweden with Mr. Indecisive. Contrary to reports in this space last week, Gustav Larsson has still not signed a new contract. In an interview with his local paper in Sweden, he said he will decide his future in the next week. Both Caisse d'Épargne and CSC-Saxo Bank are vying for the signature of the Swedish crono ace. He was reportedly all set to sign with Caisse, when Riis came through with a counter-offer. It's just like, you know, so hard to decide. Thanks to Jens and The Figurehead for their assistance with this story.

On the subject of indecision, Lance Armstrong has not decided whether he will ride next year's Tour de France. Astana DS Johann Bruyneel told the press that Armstrong is 50-50. Commenting on next year's course, Armstrong called it "innovative and very interesting." Notably missing from his previous career's palmarès is a win on Mount Ventoux, where he made a controversial decision to "gift" the stage win to Marco Pantani when last he arrived there in contention. The Giant of Provence returns to the race this year after a seven year absence. Armstrong admitted that there had been "tensions" in the past with the Tour organizers, but hoped to engage the new leadership in dialogue about the possibility of his participation. In particular, he looks forward to "making the biggest bike race in the world the gem that it deserves to be."

Moving right along, the 22 year old Irish National Champion Dan Martin will ride his first grand tour next year. He's not yet certain whether he will race in Italy or France, but is looking forward to the experience all the same. In a brief comment to cyclismag.com, Martin said, "At the Giro, I would have less pressure and the race takes place during a period when I am always on form, but every rider wants to ride the Tour." If he rode the Tour, the Irish climber could provide support for Christian Vandevelde, who last year placed fourth (adjusted). This year, Martin celebrated his first professional victory at the Route du Sud.

In other Garmin news, Hans Dekkers of the Netherlands will ride for the American team next season. The 27 year old Dekkers recently out-sprinted Tom Boonen to win the Nationale Sluitingsprijs in Kapellen, Belgium. In 2007, he won a stage of the Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen and in 2006, a stage of the Tour de l'Avenir.

Staying. Both Alberto Contador and Samuel Sanchez will be remaining with their current teams next season. Rumor suggested that the return of Lance Armstrong to Astana meant transfer time for Contador. But Bruyneel has managed to steer his ship through the treacherous transfer waters and retain his grand tour-winning star. Contador has two years remaining on his current contract. An Olympic medal made Sanchez a very hot commodity on the transfer market, but he is happy with his current situation at Euskadi-Euskatel. His current contract runs until the end of 2010.

More Cervélo signings. At risk of being over-exuberant, we are happy to report four new signing at Team Cervélo. The team has confirmed contracts with Marcel Wyss, a Swiss neo-pro, Ignatas Konovalovas, a Lithuanian from Crédit Agricole, Joaquin Novoa Mendez, a neo-pro from Spain, and Martin Reimer, the U23 German national champion. Konovalovas rode his first season as a pro this year, winning the Tour of Luxembourg and the Lithuanian national championship. Wyss, a talented climber, won the U23 race, Flèche du Sud, won the U23 Swiss national crono, and finished 4th in Varese in the U23 crono. Novoa, currently 25 years old, is also a neo-pro and a training partner of Carlos Sastre. Reimer won the German U23 national championship and placed 3rd in the U23 national crono. The 21 year old also finished 3rd overall in the U23 stage race Thüringen-Rundfahrt. Team Cervélo has also confirmed the previously rumored signings of Simon Gerrans, of Crédit Agricole and a stage winner in the 2008 Tour de France, Spanish climber Iñigo Questa of CSC-Saxo Bank, Xavier Florencio of Bweeg!, and the Norweigen Gabriel Rasch of Team Krone. For a full accounting of the team's signings, have a look-see at the Cervélo Test Team website.

In other Cervélo news, Carlos Sastre is looking forward to the 2009 Giro d'Italia. He hopes to ride a "good Giro," then take the start of the Tour. Though rumors abound about the likely course, the official presentation of the centenary Giro d'Italia will take place on 13 December at La Fenice in Venezia. We eagerly await this highpoint of the Fashion Season.

The Associated of Italian Cyclists (ACCPI, for the acronym-o-philes) has written to UCI President Pat McQuaid calling for the institution of lifetime bans for doping offenses. The letter signed by Amedeo Colombo and Gianni Bugno called the situation in cycling "grave," and argued that only "extreme remedies held the hope of recovering the credibility of the our beloved sport and our beloved riders." The authors also called for sanctions against the team management and trainers of riders found positive. Cedric Vasseur, who leads the international riders association, called the measure too extreme: "the reaction to the first offense is the ghillotine." Though he supports life-time bans for a second offense, he believes that 2 years is sufficient for a first positive. "Already, a four year ban for an athlete is close to a life-time ban," he said in a press statement, in reference to the 2009 WADA code which raises the penalty from two to four years.

On the subject of suspensions, CONI has handed down a two year suspension for Paolo Bossoni. The 32 year old rider tested positive for EPO on 29 June at the Italian National Championship held in Bergamo. His most recent victory came in 2006 at the Trofeo Città di Castelfidardo. Bossoni was the third of three doping cases at Lampre-Fondital this season.

Meanwhile in Italy, Ivan Basso has officially finished his doping ban for cavorting with Dr. Fuentes, and he will start the Japan Cup this coming Sunday. Basso has unveiled a new website, color-coordinated with his new Team Liquigas kit. The new branding: Ivan Basso, Wholesome Family Man With Cute Kids. Though many photos of his family are prominently displayed, we looked in vain for a snap of the family dog, Birillo. In collaboration with the Mapei Sport Center, Basso will post all of his training information and blood levels online. In a message on the new website devoted to Basso, Aldo Sassi expressed cautious optimism about Basso's future as a clean rider. He explained that the Mapei Center decided in February 2008 to begin working with the Varesino. "Cycling is in a huge state of emergency," writes Sassi, and "simply deleting from cycling the names of the cheaters" will not solve the problem. What matters to Sassi is Basso's stated commitment to return clean, and he hopes, as do we, that it will not all end in disappointment. Once bitten, twice shy. To follow Basso's training progress, visit the Mapei website and register.

Philippe Gilbert may not ride the Tour de France next season, confided Silence-Lotto DS Marc Sargeant to cyclismag.com. Gilbert will follow a different program next season, in particular racing less in the early season and peaking for the Ardennes. "Our strength is to have leaders in every domain, Hoste and Roelandts for the races in Flanders, Evans for the Tour de France, and Gilbert for the Ardennes," he said. For the moment Gilbert's main races will be: Het Volk, Paris-Nice, Milano-San Remo, Flèche Wallonne, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, La Vuelta, and the Worlds road race in Mendrisio.

Paolo Bettini thinks Gilbert can win the Ardennes classics, if he abandons the cobbles. In a recent interview given to the Belgian press, Bettini compared Gilbert to Danilo Diluca. Ardennes Fans take note. Bettini also said that he did not want to continue his career anywhere other than QuickStep. When it proved impossible to come to terms, he decided to retire rather than sign on elsewhere. Though at the time, Bettini and Lefevere had nothing nice to say to one another in the press, Bettini has since mellowed. He said that he understood the economic realities that dictated Lefevere's decision. Though QuickStep offered him a position in the car, Bettini is done with the demands of constant travel involved in racing. He will instead devote his time to his family and to cyclotourism in his home region of Toscana. Cyclotouring in Toscana. Where do we sign up? Currently, Bettin is contesting the Six Days race in Amsterdam, where after four days he sits in sixth with partner Juan Llaneras.

Last, but certainly, not least, just when you thought the battling among the sport's alphabet suits had come to an end, the UCI and the AFLD have picked a fight over the doping controls at next year's Tour de France. Until 2007, the UCI directed the doping controls at the Tour. Then, the ALFD, the French anti-doping authorities took over. Pierre Bordry, president of the AFLD, is especially concerned about the riders who passed the UCI's biological passport program, but failed doping controls at the Tour de France. How could the UCI have missed these obvious signs? The AFLD is demanding "guarantees of transparency" from the UCI, and has asserted an unwillingness to return to the arrangements of the past in which the UCI determined the overall anti-doping strategy, in particular who was targetted for testing, and the AFLD provided the analysis. No doubt this particular battle will consume much of the off-season months. We will strive to give it our attention, though we admit to becoming easily distracted from such things.

And with that, we sign off from this edition of the Gossip. Until next time, my friends. And keep those jerseys zipped!

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Thanks for some good Friday afternoon reading Gav!

I hope you that live in warmer climates can resist the unzipping. We here in cooler areas, are not going to have the issue, at least not this weekend :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Will definitely keep zipped up in Chicagoland

Weekend rides should be brutal with rain, wind and temps in the low 40s.

by PopUp Rolen on Oct 24, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

No unzipping in 40 degree rain? Where’s your sense of adventure?

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh

i lost my sense of adventure in my 20s. What little I have left is usually pours out of my eyes and onto the pavement as I try to keep up with college kids who are going way too fast.

Get off my lawn!!!!!

sigh

by PopUp Rolen on Oct 24, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey

i don’t even know where your damn lawn is!

;-)

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not even sure he really has one. ha ha!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!

The little strip of grass between my building and the street is the perfect lawn!

by PopUp Rolen on Oct 24, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's still a lawn there somewhere.

If the sun’s covered by clouds after all, it’s still the sun, no?

by Albertina on Oct 24, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tee hee hee... so sorry. I could not resist.

Anytime you’d like some more, feel free to stop on over during a ride. Plenty of yard (work) by my place. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch. Now what is so wrong with the burbs?

We like visitors you know. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Local scene...

Hey Pop Up…
If you are interested in some races, check out xXx Racing. Really fun team and they have all levels. You can see my weekly pics on the team site too. Fun times. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 26, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least they took the snow off the forecast for Sunday.

The Cross race I’m going to watch will be chilly enough with the rain, don’t need the snow just yet.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

where's the cross race?

I can’t seem to get on the bandwagon, but maybe if I caught some live action it would change my mind.

by PopUp Rolen on Oct 24, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This week is Bartlett.

The Chicago Cross Cup site has them listed.
I’m sure there’s more around but I’ve found this one pretty fun to go to.
Plus the team we’ve been meeting and cheering on has been a lot of fun.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't shoot me....

…but I quite like the unzipped jersey look in the mountains, the garment fluttering in the breeze as the rider in question suffers so beautifully on the wicked gradient. It’s a kind of iconic look don’t you think? Or is that just me? I must point out though that it is only acceptable on mountains. I would never do it, but then South Essex=no mountains.

by Albertina on Oct 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

Maybe if it’s July in the Pyrenees, we’ll give it a pass. But in general, I’m firmly in the keep it zipped camp.

LOL, that said, I’ve ridden most days this week with an unzipped jersey. But eh, very few people were around to see…

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You realize how wrong that kind of sounds right?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh

What’d I do this time?

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

California, baby!

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 24, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope we get good weather come Feb.

Otherwise my dreamscaped sunsets will be blown away.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too :-)

Usually it is, so we’ll cross our fingers now!

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

One question...

who is “Ricardo Vande Velde”? I think I know most of the family, and that one is not ringing a bell. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry, my bad

That story was totally eff’d. First, he isn’t transferring to Garmin, he rides for Rabo Continental, which is what I thought, but the story I read had it wrong, or at least, unclear. His name is Ricardo Van Der Velde, and he’s a Dutch U23. Talented kid, he won a stage of the Tour de l’Avenir this season.

Results here.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay... that name I have heard of and probably on results here.

I hope I’m not the only one really excited about the future of the sport with the younger guys coming up.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ricardo Van Der Velde

Just thought you would like a Pic, He is a really nice guy too..

by CycleGirl on Oct 24, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Si.. very cutey

The story I read had his name mis-spelled and was all confused. It’s hard to get good news these days :-P

Very talented kids there in the Netherlands these days.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's with the wooden medals?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 24, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah right

Keep out of reach of children and projectiles…

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 24, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks gav!

Excellent job as usual! :)

Just a little side note, Contador has 2 years left on his current contract with Astana.

There are some rumors on Brajkovic being unhappy at Astana, and wanting out. CSC-Saxo-Bank has been linked to him.
He has denied it but said “everything is possible”.

by Bruce Suomi on Oct 24, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Good Evening Bruce :-)

I wouldn’t mind seeing him move over to CSC. Could be interesting to see if it happens.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

crappo

We had this discussion before, didn’t we. And now I’m really confused. Heh, not that I don’t trust you, but I check…

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Contador has 2 years left on his current contract with Astana

That’s what I thought – was just about to rewatch the VNTV viddy thing form this week in which I’m pretty sure Bruyneel said the same.

fmk – a proud member of Pedants ‘R’ Us

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

Press release from Astana confirmed it several weeks ago – contract through 2010.

I posted it that way a while back, someone corrected me, then, eh, I got all confused.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

USA Today

It turns out that part of Lance’s hedging on a return to the Tour is due to a concern for his safety. There were death threats against him in his last two Tours, and he hired a bodyguard and was assigned police protection. Now that he has Tour officials making really negative public statements about him, he’s more concerned about the drunks along the top of the climbs than the climbs themselves. Also, he admitted to having a girlfriend. I’ve been following his twitter account. This week he worked with Steve Hed for two days coming up with a new TT position which he’ll test in the wind tunnel in a week and a half. Cheers.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2008-10-22-armstrong_N.htm

by next year on Oct 24, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

remember the loonie who punched Eddy?

Whatever I think of his comeback, safety would certainly be an issue in the Tour for him…

by Bruce Suomi on Oct 24, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness -

with the mountain stages and how close any fan (or not such a fan) can get to the riders, they all have to have thoughts like that in the backs of there heads don’t they? Maybe not like – OMG, I can’t ride – but a subtle, “these people are nuts” kind of thought. I love the sport because we can be right there but there are some loose nuts out there.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I remember it, it’s fans have most to fear from him. Didn’t he ride into one on Hautacam one year? :)

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

LA's Twitter

I had a look at that yesterday – “Went to a new restaurant in Austin tonight called Olivia’s. Great food, great service”; “Heading to dinner with Doug Ulman, Pres and CEO of the LAF”; “About to go and check out Burn After Reading at the Alamo Drafthouse. I hear it’s hilarious”; “Weather is amazing in austin right now. 78 and sunny. If it was like this year round we’d have 10 million people living here.”; “Btw, I cooked dinner tonight. Quit laughing.” Thrilling stuff.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he could save money on the bodyguard

if he stopped posting his schedule on the internet? The tour is another issue, but seriously… “I will be at X restaurant in an hour…”? What the fuck is he thinking?

by Jimbo... on Oct 24, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, nice contradiction there

Oh my God, I’m so worried that the bogeyman is going to jump out of the bushes at the Tour. But let me tell you all about what I’m up to right now. Geesh, Security 101, don’t advertise your movements if you are really concerned about such things.

Me, I’ve never put much stock in the whole “Tour security” blah blah. For me, it just comes off as more self-importance and self-promotion.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all part of winning hearts and minds at home, that’s all. I mean seriously, raising the Merckx thing – how long ago was that now? How often has anything like that ever happened? And if it’s a real danger, it’s a real danger all riders face, not just LA. It’s not worth getting into though – this is LA – logic doesn’t apply.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

last year's Giro

someone gave Di Luca a pretty big shove as he went over the top of a hill. And didn’t some goon try to slap a sticker on Boonen’s helmet going up one of the hills in Flanders? Although the trouble with those sorts of stunts is that there really is no escape route nowadays.

by Monty. on Oct 24, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, saw them too.

The controversy LA brings with him, anyone saying he’d be safe in the Tour must think twice, since even the well meaning fans can cause accidents, not to even mention the not well meaning fans….

by Bruce Suomi on Oct 24, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s the Tour he’s complaining about – he’s more than happy to go to Italy and let the tifosi mess with him. Maybe he should drop in on Stephen Roche when he’s over for the New York marathon and ask him how nasty the tifosi can really be to an anglo winning their race when they really want a home boy to win.

Anyway. This is LA we’re talking about. Logic. Window. Bye.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the Giro, it's the tifosi who have to dodge punches ;-)

Wasn’t it Vladimir Belli who was booted from the Giro a few years back for punching a Simoni Hooligan on a climb? Turned out, the guy who took it on the kisser was Simoni’s nephew, IIRC.

by Susie Hartigan on Oct 24, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yep

Didn’t Big House punch a tifoso once also? Ah, the Giro.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, that does sound familiar

Big House always did look a bit of a thug. Not the typical delicate-looking climbing specialist, that one.

The Giro’s no tea party, that’s for sure :-)

by Susie Hartigan on Oct 24, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Roche have a chance of finishing that marathon?

Last few times I’ve seen him he’s been what you might put politely as a little above his fighting weight. Fat bastard might be a little closer.

by Monty. on Oct 24, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he was always a bit of a porker in the off season but really bloated up once he stopped. I recall the kid saying how he was back on his bike, so maybe he’s trimmed down. Haven’t seen any recent piccies of him. He’s never over here much, and post Michelle Smith there’s a very frosty relationship between him and here. I imagine though that if he starts he’ll finish. Unless he wrecks the knee again.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

I think he has a better handle on Austin, and they on him. Still, believing you’re stalker-proof doesn’t make it so.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 24, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep, totally

Plenty of very famous people wander around Cali without trouble.

But eh, he makes such a song and dance about the Tour. It’s tiresome.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, it needs him as much as he needs it. He said so, so it must be true.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

the Tour doesn’t need him… but they aren’t going to pass up the chance for an extra 20 million eyeballs regardless.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 24, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

On second thought

he may or may not need the Tour. Hm, I sense a Lance power-play!

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 24, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they’ve got to replace all those Germans they’ve just lost, don’t they? But I think Nike will be the bigger influence, if he really wants the ASO to roll out to red carpet, sit up and beg and create that serene atmosphere he’s demanding. (I’m sorry, but seriously, that serene thing – I think he was around Sheryl Crow too long. That really sounds like one of those muso contract rider excesses, like no blue M&Ms.)

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

darn close

I might have to head out and buy some wine. The store closes at 7.00. Huh. I really could use a good Italian chianti tonight, though it’s a tad warm for red. We endure.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

tsk tsk it's never too warm for red

well still at work, taking a break but must go back to the grindstone… or however that goes

by lyne on Oct 24, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

More from the Special One

Has he spoken to any cycling journos yet, or is he just doing soft-ball interviews? Anyway, another, from one of his local papers. Fist, we’re back above 50:50 for him riding the Tour.

“I’m definitely coming back to racing, and I recognize the Tour is the marquee event. Chances are more likely than not that I’ll do (the Tour de France).”

Will he domestique for Contador?

“My commitment to the team is I will support the strongest rider. It’s not just Alberto and myself — we also have Levi Leipheimer. There’s a chance Alberto will be the third strongest on the team. There’s also a chance I’ll be the third strongest on the team.”

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 25, 2008 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

What annoys me

Would he himself have accepted if Roberto Heras or another of the top lieutenants had made a similar statement when they were on USPS? That would have been a shunning offense and the guy who said it would have spent his season fetching waterbottles in the Tour of Poland.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 25, 2008 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shunning?

They’d have flushed his blood bags down the loo.

NB: satire.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 25, 2008 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

One key difference

is that neither Heras nor any of his top lieutenants won seven tours.

by Jimbo... on Oct 25, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling the attitude was there already in 2000

(if not already in -99 if you are to believe the descriptions of the teamdynamics on USPS).

Not so much based on palmares as the pre-established pecking -order.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 25, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it was there in '99 too

wasn’t that why he wriggled his way out of the Cofidis contract to sign up with USPS.

by Monty. on Oct 25, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not slamming LA

I’m just pointing out that he has always preached the “all for one and all for one”-mantra but now that it’s not quite crystal clear that he will be the “one” he comes up with this “we’ll see how it goes” stuff.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 25, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Martin

Dan Martin for the Giro? Sounds more likely than the Tour. But that would give him a only fortnight to recover for the Tour de Suisse, which Vaughters seems to indicate he’s down for (in the latest VN interview) and with a hope of doing well in. Would riding the Giro ride him into form our out of form for Tour de Suisse contention? In the Irish Times piece today, Shane Stokes says that his goal is to ride any one of the three Grand Tours – so he could leave it until the end of the season and the Vuelta. Which given Roche’s performance in this year looks like it more suit a rider like Martin, this early in his career.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

too soon to tell, i think

I’d like to see him ride the Giro, rather than as gregario at the Tour. But either way, he’ll be there for the experience.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly Garmin are going to be spoilt for choices next year, esp with TT guys and guys capable of breaking away.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alphabet Soup

Another crouton to flavour your alphabet soup – the AIOCC, or l’Association internationale des organisateurs de courses cyclistes as it’s even less commonly known. Both L’Equipe and CN say Christian Prudhomme has becomes its president for the next four years, having been Veep. He replaces the former Vuelta director, Victor Cordero. AIOCC accounts for 129 events – including the Grand tours and 21 other races in the world calendar. Must increase ASO’s negotiating power with the UCI even further, no?

Test you cycling knowledge by seeing how many of these names you know before reading what it is they actually do (I scored four): Prez: Christian Prudhomme (ASO); EVP: Angelo Zomegnan (RCS); VP: Eddy Buchette (Tour du Luxembourg); Sec: Jean-François Pescheux (ASO); Asst Sec: Jean Bodart (Quatre Jours de Dunkerque); Tres: Yves Vanassche (Tour de Wallonie); Asst Tres: Hartmut Bolts (GP de Francfort, Allemagne); Members: Javier Guillen (Unipublic), Renzo Oldani (Trois Vallées Varésines), Ruben Peris (Tour de Catalogne), Mauro Vegni (RCS), Wim Van Herreweghe (Tour des Flandres).

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Well someone will be busy next season...

Dr Rasmus Damsgaard is going to be a busy man next season! Already running anti-doping programs for Saxo Bank and Astana (and GLS Package Shop), he recently added Milram to the list and today it’s been announced that Liquigas have also asked him to set up a program for them.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=da&u=http://www.feltet.dk/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search3Fq3Dfeltet2Bdk26hl3Den26sa%3DG

by Gemma on Oct 24, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Cool. The more Team Cleans the merrier, I say. Catlin’s been calling for this sort of action from within the sport for years.

Funny that Basso will be doing a Lance – being testing by the UCI, CONI, Damsgard and Maipei.

Anyone know exactly what his role with Milram is? Is it proper testing or he’s available to be called in if the passport throws up unusual rules?

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's proper testing but I can't give you a source as I can't remember where I read it.

I may even have read it in German, in which case I wouldn’t trust anything I say!

by Albertina on Oct 24, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meant to include that...

I knew there was a reason I was staring at a German website this morning. Yes, it was reported in the German press that Milram has signed on to have Dams do monitoring on their riders. At this point, a necessary move, if they want to keep their sponsor.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for clearing that one up guys. I’d seen both reported on some site I happened upon earlier.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 24, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to feltet article

(though this is via google translate as I don’t speak Danish) he’ll be doing blood profiles – sounds like a full program

by Gemma on Oct 24, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

The German reports said full monitoring program. LOL, so good when all these things agree :-)

Thanks for putting that up – important story, and it somehow fell out of my brain when I went to write this thingy.

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Details here

The milram Healthy Choice Program

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Oct 25, 2008 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Healthy Choice?

So funny :-)

In the US, that’s a food brand – lots of low calorie, fat reduced cookies, crackers, frozen foods.

by Jen See on Oct 25, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it does sound a bit like a breakfast cereal....very funny.

The main purpose is surely to catch cheats, not to help the Milram riders lose weight or maintain a healthy, balanced lifestyle!

by Albertina on Oct 25, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful language Gav

You nailed California in the Fall… the warm breezes, the bright, sunny days, the static electricity producing Santa Ana winds, and the brush fires… Up here in Northern Cal (which is actually central Cal if you look on a map), Spring and Fall are when Summer actually happens. And my Pinarello has still not arrived. You?

by Jimbo... on Oct 24, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I am not getting a Pinarello

That is the problem. I am Pinarello-less, Sans-Pinarello, Pinarello free…

by Jimbo... on Oct 24, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

See

the fanposts section

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 24, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

totally.

that was a damn funny post, by the way :-)

by Jen See on Oct 25, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

If they only send us one Prince, you can go first.

by Jimbo... on Oct 25, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh, no?

But I can probably ride a 56 for a photo shoot ;-)

Gav <—- 55 cm top tube

by Jen See on Oct 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You were supposed to write a letter.

After you wrote it, did you remember to send it in? If you did, then you know the bike is surely on it’s way to your door.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 24, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends...

If by “writing a letter and sending it in” you mean posting a comment here, then yes! I did that at least three times now. What is the problem Pinarello supplier people? Where is my Pinarello?

by Jimbo... on Oct 24, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wednesday, damn Drink is your in July....

Still no word on my Orbea, think some spaniard is ridng it to the markets everymorning just to test it out..

by CycleGirl on Oct 24, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully!

If there’s any delay I will cry. When I was in Bilbao a few weeks back I saw lots of Orbeas, but not yours I’m afraid….I’ll get my Basque Tour mates to check out San Sebastian and Tolosa! Or perhaps you could hire Poirot….The Case of the Missing Bicycle.

by Albertina on Oct 24, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fingers crossed then

and yes bring on the investigation team for – The Case of the Missing Bicycle.

by CycleGirl on Oct 24, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Where is that thing? How are we going to do our review thingy without Pinarellos?

Humph.

Fall in Cali, it’s my fave time of the year, I think. I’m glad to live too far north these days for the Santa Anas, though. They’re freakin’ cool, but not so good for the bike riding!

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thx for gossip

personally, I would be thrilled to see Armstrong ride the Giro and spend the TdF in the team bus focusing on “Cancer” and cheering Bert

by cyclingchallenge on Oct 24, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks Gavia

Rui Costa in CGE next year, nicce.

by semprenaroda on Oct 24, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Caisse?

Brilliant. That’s very good news for Costa!

by Jen See on Oct 24, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, Caisse d' Epargne.

seems Angel Madrazo goes too, one more younger.From CN latest news.

by semprenaroda on Oct 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fined for falling off your bike?

Let this be a warning to all of us.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 25, 2008 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Gav/Monty help,

here is a Contador interview, in Spanish/Italian.
If you have time, check it out. :)
http://mediacenter.gazzetta.it/MediaCenter/action/player?uuid=4a851a0e-9f84-11dd-9c41-00144f02aabc

by Bruce Suomi on Oct 25, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

here's the early, mildly controversial bit

[talking about Armstrong] The first thing I thought was that it would be a big problem for us to ride in the same team. But now the situation has improved. I know that we will be teammates, but I also know that we can sort it out on the road (sara la strada a parlare?) but in the end there won’t be any problems.

[about Basso] Basso made a mistake and without doubt he has paid the price. We are talking about rider of exceptional talent, when such a rider returns it is a good thing for cycling. He is very strong and will give us lots of excitement. It’s a good thing.

[about Ricco] To tell the truth, that day I was training on the Angliru with my team in preparation for the Giro and they rang me and told me the news of his positive test. My immediate feeling was one of sadness. I was sad. I had never expected it. I didn’t want to believe it. He’s a great rider who knows how to put on a good show, and who would have surely fought many times with me. It’s very sad what happened.

- After that did you think back to what happened at the Giro and also with Sella?

No. I’m not a person who worries about the past. I’m not the sort of rider who enjoys analysing these things or wondering “If rider X wasn’t in the race I would have come third.” I don’t think these arguments matter. The Giro is the Giro, the Tour is the Tour.

[on upcoming young riders] … Andy Schleck who has time to improve and has already shown his abilities, …Robert Gesink … kreuziger, Nibali, Gerdemann.

after that it fizzles out into nothingness, and a few nice words about Bettini.

by Monty. on Oct 25, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Monty!! :)

I think he got the call about Ricco while training for the Vuelta though, just to be picky… :D
Very much appreciated, thank you very much!!

here is an Ekimov interview, interesting.
http://www.astana-cyclingteam.com/mehlting_pot/ekimovchecksin.html

no way he drives from Helsinki to St.Petersburg in 2 hours, that takes more like 5-6 hours (assuming he follows our speed limits)….

by Bruce Suomi on Oct 25, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

sara la strada a parlare

It will be for the road to say. I read that as whoever has the legs.

Interesting interview – thanks for translating.

by Jen See on Oct 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

One additional piece of gossip -

the World Chess Championship is apparently going on in Bonn, Germany. How is this cycling related, you may ask? Well the answer is obvious, what better way to play chess than on a chess bike, ridden by Didi?

by Katiek on Oct 25, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sorry

how could I forgotten to share the close up, including the chess themed outfit. Those guys at the TDF presentation could take a few style tips.

by Katiek on Oct 25, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now there is a guy who needs the Tour and is also needed by it.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 25, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Japan Cup Results

Looks like Cunego is on fire, but Basso did well

by CycleGirl on Oct 26, 2008 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Basso happy with third place
"Normally you can not be happy for third place, but I used to come from two years of stop and I was the protagonist. I made the decisive action, uphill, I proved to be at the same level of Lombardy winner. Now I can face the winter with a smile, thinking to 2009. "

Gazzetta

Podium shot from CN

by majope on Oct 26, 2008 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I'll say it

mmmmmmmm Basso…
Welcome back Baby!!!!

by CycleGirl on Oct 26, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good result for Basso all things considered.

He was never going to outsprint Cunego or Visconti in a race like that and to be up there mixing it in his first race back can only be promising for him. He looks a very happy bunny in the CN photos.

by Albertina on Oct 26, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's happened yet has it?

Isn’t it tomorrow? (tomorrow British time that it, so today for you)

by Albertina on Oct 25, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes he did... MMMMMMMM Basso..

Ok i need to know how you do the link to website thing.. With the changing the name instead of the whole HTTP..

BTW did you see the one of him riding on his bike with a head band.. Sweet…

by CycleGirl on Oct 25, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

You highlight the words you want to be the link

then click on the little chain icon, the one to the left of the little picture of the tree, and a pop up will appear. Paste the “whole HTTP” into the pop up and click submit. Easy as falling off a bike.

by Jimbo... on Oct 25, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooo, now I know.

I hadn’t worked that out either….

by Albertina on Oct 25, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

you can also type it:
within html bracket thingies like “<” and “>” type:
a href=“your linky” target=“_blank;” the target=blank part does the open in new window be sure to include the quote marks.

gav <—- types faster than selects

by Jen See on Oct 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait til we get you on to CSS.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Oct 26, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you check the

“open in a new window” box when you do the link, a new window will open to the link. If you don’t check that box, when you come back to this thread, all the highlighting for the new posts are lost.

There is some way to avoid losing the new post highlights, but it’s easier just to open in a new window.

by Katiek on Oct 25, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you've got a wheely mouse

then clicking on the little wheel usually opens links in a new window.

The only problem I have here now is how to stop some posts getting marked as read before I rerad them. If I am working my way down a page Z-Z-Z-Z etc. and someone then posts a reply to a post higher up the page, then when I next press Z it marks that post as read rather than the one I am reading. Does this happen to anyone else here?

by Monty. on Oct 26, 2008 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you use "c"

rather than z, you can jump back and pick up the ones you miss. i actually typically use “c” rather than “z” “c” just skips through the new posts, without marking them read…

by Jen See on Oct 26, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot about the "c" - Thanks!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 26, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're not alone.

I’ve tried to catch them but during our busy live threads I often miss a few things for those responding further back.
I just end up doing a quick reread later to make sure I got it.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Oct 26, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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