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Explorations In Cycling: Katyusha

On the Barloworld thread below this one, gavia made the comment, 

 

"also, if you're bored...

 

most of the major teams have announced their official rosters now. feel free to start exploring ;-)"

Well that fits me to a T, so I now resolve to explore new territory! Onward ho! I must confess that I haven't paid much attention to the Russian Rockets this summer so what follows is my first impression of their roster as shown on the CQ transfers page. Here goes...

What stands out the most?

Just to be contrarian here, there's no GC hope for an Grand Tour and only some hope for any week long stage race. Potentially there some decent support for a GC rider: Colom, Karpets, Gusev, Botcharov, Ivanov, Pfannberger- all could be of help- but there's no leader here.

That said, this team fairly explodes with breakaway guys: they truly are Tiinkoff on steroids. In addition to most of the riders in the last paragraph, you can add Brutt and Trussov, both holdovers from Tinkoff. In fact I can't wait to see this team enliven the Giro.

What will be interesting then will be how they race tactically. They do have a rider or two who have a history of success in week-long stage races (stand up Karpets!) so will they have the discipline for contending for the overall in places like the Swiss Tour?

 

Star-divide

But seriously, give us a type of race they could do well in.

In general this team should be a significant force on any one day Classic race but clearly to me this team has the numbers to seriously compete in the Ardennes and any hilly one day race- Lombardia and MSR included. Just look at the resumes from last year:

Pfannberger: 6th Amstel, 9th La Fleche, 5th LBL, 23rd Olympic RR, 8th Worlds RR, 20th Emilia,  5th Lazio, 11th Sabatini, and 12th Lombardia. Wow! The only thing missing is a win, but he's a major force in every major hilly Classic there is that doesn't have cobbles. He's in his prime so I see no reason why he won't snag a major win or two over the next couple of years.

Ivanov: 7th Amstel, then not allowed into Fleche and LBL due to ASO/Astana tiff. 

-Pozzato: 2nd MSR, 6th Flanders. Plus we know his history.

But what about the cobbles?

Pozzato I just mentioned. Add to him an aging McEwenSteegmans, plus up and coming Kenny DeHaes, and you have a decent front line for all types of cobbles races. I even like the prospects of Gusev at Paris-Roubaix as his body seems made to order for that race,  but...

Yes? What's the catch?

It's basically a brand new team and the parts (riders) are coming form all sorts of teams meaning they are all used to different types of coaching. So how they come together will be telling. Clearly this is a team for the spring but can they gel in time? And by "gel" I mean their support riders. Who's gonna support Pozzato effectively? Will Pfannberger and Ivanov be on their own in the Ardennes? I can see Karpets, Botcharov, and Colom working well in the small stage races but who else can help?

Then you have the problem of so many nationalities and languages being spoken. I count at least 11 Russians, 4 Belgians (5 if you count McEwen), 2 Spaniards, 2 Italians, 1 English guy, that aforementioned Aussie... that seems way too ecumenical to me. 

On the other hand, this team is pretty young. Yes, McEwen is older than the hills and Ivanov and Horrach are no spring chickens but almost all of the rest of the team is either in their prime or younger. That includes Pozzato, Pfannberger, Dehaes, Steegmans, and Gusev. Many of their support riders are also young- 85s, 86's, and an 87 to develop shows that they are not just trying to buy their way to championships.

Maybe a clue on how well this team is working will be in the time trials. They have some good chronomen here so we'll see if the coaching staff can mold them into a decent TTT come the Giro.

To sum up

Given that they had an enormous pile of money to work with I think they started very well. They'll be relevant in the spring and fall and my guess is that they understand that building a major team takes multiple years of shrewd buying. The GC races in the Grand Tours can wait; meanwhile they will make some noise on breakaways. It will be fun to watch their development and I expect this team to be a force for years.

There ya go: my first take on Katyusha. Anything you see that I missed?

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I just can't imagine Pozzato on a Russian team

especially one in which he is the only Italian rider. The team seems to be just a bunch of the biggest names they could sign thrown together. They really don’t seem to mesh together well, but we’ll have to wait and see how they do.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Nov 11, 2008 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

Pippo

was at least as good at Quick Step as with Leakygas, though.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 12, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but I still just find it weird to see any Italian on a Russian team.

plus he succeeded more on qucikstep because they were a much stronger team in his types of races, Leakygas didn’t suit him well, so maybe this was a good move on his part.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Nov 12, 2008 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing is

he rode solidly at QS but his big results came as an effect of the BigTeamTactics of QS (MSR prime example). He hasn’t really lived up to the billing of Teamleader yet, has he?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Nov 12, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

lol, i'm so here for ya ;-)

postage on the way. nothing too serious…

by Jen See on Nov 11, 2008 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

pretty much totally agree

They do lack a gc guy, but they shouldn’t be totally irrelevent at the grand tours. I assume they’ll get into the Giro, this year. Last year, they definitely were entertaining.

They look good for Belgium. I’m interested to see what Pfannberger can do with some of hte hilly one day races – that was a great ride at Varese. Also, the short stage races should suit him – I didn’t look up his results, so maybe he’s already been doing some winning in that department.

Pozzato needs to stop playing with his hair and get pedaling. This year he underachieved relative to his talent, in my view. Next year, a big win would be nice to go along with the hair.

Interesting team, really. I don’t quite know what ot expect from them.

by Jen See on Nov 11, 2008 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

Pfannberger isn't much of a stage racer

in fact it appears he tries to avoid stage races, he has raced very few in recent years. He probably struggles on the bigger climbs and I’m guessing he can’t TT to save his life.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Nov 11, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

huh. I’d have thought based on his ride at Varese that he might be able to handle something like Paris-Nice.

But I didn’t check his results before posting, because I’m lazy that way ;-)

by Jen See on Nov 11, 2008 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I thought he might be a better stage racer too

but outside of some Tour of Austria top 5’s he hasn’t done much. Maybe he can do well at P-N but he hasn’t raced it in recent years, maybe with Katyuscha he will get a chance to.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Nov 11, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

ah...

That may be the answer, then. Not that he isn’t good at them, but that he hasn’t had the chance to race all that many. That would make more sense, but we’ll see soon enough.

by Jen See on Nov 11, 2008 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I expect a very positive season

but I’m a cynic.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Nov 12, 2008 4:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Settle down!

Ha! I was gonna write about this topic but decided to keep things um positive.

by ursula on Nov 12, 2008 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

heh, heh, he said positive

going for the doping free post. i even got the tatoo ;-)

by Jen See on Nov 12, 2008 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

always the dilemma...

watch but don’t touch? For VDS, I mean.

by JFS_PGH on Nov 13, 2008 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Tinkoff on steroids

sounds like a great team to root for animating all the races. Looking forward to it.

by dheadrick on Nov 11, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

How many teams with big budgets have no big name GC guy?

Off the top of my head I can think of –
Quick Step
Columbia
Katyuscha
Anyone else?

by Ryan_Liles on Nov 11, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

There are a few more PT teams

Bweeg, FDJ, AG2R, Cofidis, so pretty much all the French teams.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Nov 11, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

“Clearly this is a team for the spring but can they gel in time? And by "gel” I mean their support riders."

Thanks for clearly that up. I was convinced you meant the hair stuff. But then I realised Pippo has several months to Gel and even for him, that shouldn’t be a problem.

by Albertina on Nov 12, 2008 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Can you even get good hair gel in Russia?

Poor Pippo. The freight charges are going to be enormous. Let’s hope the increase in salary more than evens things out.

by majope on Nov 12, 2008 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay, now I KNOW it's the off-season

Once we start trolling Russian websites for hair gel, it’s clearly time for the guys to get back on their bikes.

by majope on Nov 12, 2008 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

+50!

Desperation is striking, for sure.

by Albertina on Nov 12, 2008 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I really, really like the CQ charts.

Thanks for linking to them for all the riders. Sure, sometimes the soaring and dipping is due to team stuff (moves to a team that rides more races, or getting stuck in a team-wide ban) but that’s useful stuff too. I wonder if the riders use them to validate that “time for a change” feeling?

by JFS_PGH on Nov 13, 2008 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

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