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Milram: Cold Feet

A newspaper in Frankfurt, via VeloNews, is reporting that Team Milram's title sponsor is looking for an exit strategy from the two years remaining on their contract with the cycling team, citing the usual German fear of doping. I don't like to paint with too broad a brushstroke, but it does seem that every institution of consequence with roots in Germany is lashing out at the sport these days, so I suppose the Milram dairy company's latest move is no surprise. Making matters worse is Stefan Schumacher's ongoing crusade against his own doping disgrace. Schmacher continues to insist on his innocence, now threatening to send his lawyers on the offensive. Since I can't look inside his soul, I guess we don't know for sure if he's guilty, but so far he's about 99% unconvincing.

The danger in all of this is twofold: first, German cycling, which is nothing to sneeze at, is on increasingly shaky terms. Second, the void will be filled if and when Milram departs... but by whom? I personally worry that interest in Europe seems to be growing more in the eastern bloc countries, and not to besmirch the character of half a continent, but the history of sports doping in the old Soviet sattelites (and USSR too) is ugly. Worse, the attitude of the Kazakh federation in the Vinokourov case makes me worry that new-to-cycling countries don't fully appreciate the situation. In any event, Milram runs a reputable program, so the only way from here is down.

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One thing that occurs to me as this story is the opposite of the Golden Bike award.
The Golden Bike implies a certain stability and maturity in the sport as there is a) money behind those journalists reporting on the sport and b) a general understanding of what the sport is about, especially in Europe but increasingly worldwide.

Milram looking to get out however speaks towards a continuing disorganization much like in a struggling start-up sports league that has revolving ownership and teams in different cities/countries both folding and starting every year. In other words people/companies with big bucks like the sport but aren’t sure how to properly engage with it and so end their involvement sooner rather than later and without selling their franchise (team and/or race) at a profit. In the case of Germany and its companies sponsoring both races and teams pulling out one can see that to a large degree the country no longer understands the rules of the game because of the doping scandals or more properly didn’t understand the de facto rules until now and no longer understands what they see. How does one “read” the pro cycling game when it seems that its not clear how any participant got to be good at it (i.e. by the published rules or some other way)?

Contrast to say soccer where the organization of the game is so strong that they can minimalize the impact of drugs and gambling so that the money stays in that game and relationships of team with fan stay intact.

I know I’m not wording this quite right…

by ursula on Nov 28, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

What worked in the past is getting harder these days

The nature of the financing of cycling really hasn’t changed that much. What has changed probably is the amounts and the avalanche of bad publicity in the last 10 years. The big Protour-level teams now need considerably more money than before thus needing bigger size sponsors. Since the decisions on sport-sponsorship are often/always based on a big element of personal preferences they are by nature volatile. Combine those two and you have a lot of nervous teammanagers with high bloodpressure.

In the Milram case it seems that the big advocate for the sponsorship was a highlevel manager in the marketing department (big fan of cycling) who recently lost his job (or quit?). With him gone, the new management probably only see the avalance of bad publicity and not the potential for a lot of exposure at a comparatively low cost that cycling offers. The same happened at CSC.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Nov 29, 2008 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

the “highlevel manager in the marketing department” was jsut a big Ete fan. And when he retired he decided it wasn’t worth it anymore.

by Hons on Nov 29, 2008 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Owners should own, not sponsor

Yeah okay so in Pro Cycling you have the owner of the license actually in middle level management while the real owners- those with the $$$- being reduced to being “sponsors” like those companies on the front of soccer kits. To me that’s a long-term stability problem for the sport because there’s no real long-term vision and a greatly reduced long-term fan base.

Contrast Pro Cycling with both big team sports like soccer or US football and more individual sports like tennis or golf and its clear to me how Cycling for all intents and purposes has a “kick me” sign on its back.

- There’s only a faint local fan base supporting any particular team. Contrast that with team sports where owners and managers come and go but the team lives on in the hearts of its local supporters. There’s a wiff of local pride in Saxo bank or Garmin but its not like those teams ever have a “home” race they “defend” in front of their fans. (No, the Tour of Denmark doesn’t count.)

On the other end you have tennis and golf where the events are the key along with the player associations. Every year around the same time there’s an Australian Open and a Hamburg Open that local fans flock to. Unlike Cycling, events happen in a more orderly progression with agreements between local ownership, players and worldwide associations working things out.

That type of stability makes it so that the sport in question isn’t rocked by the inevitable scandals and changes in legal relationships (Bosman, for instance). But Cycling, having precious little ties, not only gets rocked harder by things like doping that other sports but also has owner/sponsors feeling so little attached to their teams that they feel fine about bailing when they change their minds. I mean that’s just unthinkable in other sports- not the wanting to get out part but the disappearance of the team part, unless you are in an alternative brand new league like the XFL or ABA were in the past in the US.

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken

by ursula on Nov 29, 2008 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

eh, I don't know

Certainly, German sponsorship is in trouble. Katyusha and ISD are Eastern European, natch. But several other new sponsors have come in this season from Italy and France – Servetto, a Heulot’s new French team has two French sponsors, blah blah. Columbia and Garmin are American. Riis found Danish sponsors.

So, I’m not sure I’m seeing all Eastern European money by any means. I do think finding pro tour level commitments is difficult and isn’t going to get easier.

by Jen See on Nov 29, 2008 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

Official statement from the website
“We hereby confirm that we are currently revising our cycling sponsorship. There will be no further statement regarding this topic at the moment.
We will inform the public about further developments.”

(link)

It can’t be a good sign when the sponsor doesn’t even try to deny the rumors a bit.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Nov 29, 2008 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

It's Leeenooos's fault.

Really. First he leaves CSC to ride for a German team—T-Mobile—and within a year or two they pull their sponsorship, leaving the team to wander off and become American. So he stamps his foot and says: Nein, I wanted a German team, and jumps ship for Milram. Which almost immediately decides to reconsider sponsoring the team.

Oh, and this September Leenoos wins the Deutschland Tour. In October, they decide to cancel it for next year.

I’m telling you, the man is cursed.

by majope on Nov 30, 2008 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

OMFG

You’re right!

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 1, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha ha! That's it!

He may look like an angelic choirboy, but in reality he’s rubbing his hands together in glee, plotting his next destructive mission.

by Albertina on Dec 1, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Who the Hell is Linus Gerdemann :)

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 1, 2008 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

That is a remarkably unfortunate set of events. Evil Leenoos.

by Jen See on Dec 1, 2008 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Evil or doomed?

My knowledge of German mythology is a mite hazy, but from the odd opera or two I believe the Teutonic gods are right up there in the cruel and capricious stakes. “Savior of German cycling? Ha! Instead, mein klein Traumprinz, you will bring it crashing down!” [Quick—what’s the German version of Mwah-ha-ha"?]

by majope on Dec 2, 2008 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

mein klein traumprinz ha!

indeed, when you look at it that way, he’s so totally doomed.

by Jen See on Dec 2, 2008 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

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