Lost in Translation
by Jen See on Nov 29, 2008 6:30 PM EST
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PrintWe see cases all the time of mangled translations in the English-language press. And we heckle when appropriate, natch.
Here is a bit of a head-scratcher from the Italian press:
"Tom Danielson, Captain of Garmin for the Giro and Tour," headlines tuttobiciweb. The article continues, "Tom Danielson is one of the big, promising talents in American cycling, but ... it is true that he has not won a race since 2006, when he won a stage of the Vuelta a España." He is approaching the 2009 season with "grand ambitions," concentrating especially on the early part of the season. The article goes on to list races such as Tour of California and Pais-Vasco as numbering among his objectives. He will then ride the Giro d'Italia and Tour de France, they report. Danielson "who will be the team leader for Garmin-Chipotle in these races," writes tuttobiciweb, said that it is important for him and for the team that he achieve good results.
Now, I love me some tuttobiciweb. They're quick. They're usually accurate. And they're Italian. But they seem not to know their Team Garmin so well. Christian Vandevelde, who? Never mind that Danielson has yet to finish either the Giro d'Italia or the Tour de France. Perhaps the Italian journalists simply know something we don't know.
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Oopsie!
I can only guess that Bubble Boy is such an enigma that your normal brain synapses malfunction when one thinks of him.
"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken
Bubble Boy
that is priceless! :D
I have nothing against Tom, but he for sure ain’t the best the writer, his columns on PC have not been very good or interesting, except the last one with the photo of his cool tandem bike and new wife, that was damn cool.
I didn't know Tom D writes columns for tuttubiciweb
the things you learn everyday :)
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
well he's freshly
married, so who knows maybe he’s refocus and rededicated and stuff……. uh yeah ok.
Perhaps tuttifruitti cycling is another Future Publications property now….. Stranger things and stuff.
by Christopher See on Nov 29, 2008 7:16 PM EST reply actions
I was going to insert a quote from C on some of 2009 ambitions
but I’ll keep smiling and just being a fan of Tom’s. He’s a great rider but I truly think super Tomestique is a better more fullfilling path.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Gained in Translation
‘The article goes on to list races such as Tour of California and Pais-Vasco as numbering among his objectives. He will then ride the Giro d’Italia and Tour de France, they report.’
So, they read the interview…“The plan is Tour of California, Tour of Murcia, Castilla y Leon, Pays Basque, Giro d’Italia and Tour de France. It’s really important for me to have a good first half of the year.”
But team leader….
They do know something you don’t know. Tom will be eating Chipolte super bean burritos all year, and will have more gas in his tank than anyone else in the peleton.
Actually, I love their burritos.
by The Long Emergency on Nov 29, 2008 9:53 PM EST reply actions
That's pretty harsh on JP.
Page has had some bad luck lately, but he has been in the thick of the Euro Cross battles for years now and has had a good deal of success.
He is, by far, the best ’Cross racer from the US to date.
Yep, bit of a mis-step by tuttobiciweb
I read that blurb too quickly the first time, and it wasn’t until the second reading that I realized that it was not Danielson himself, but tuttobici, who was calling him the team captain for the Giro and the Tour. At this point, it’s ambitious enough for Bubble Boy to aim for even riding the Giro and the Tour.
I think Vaughters’s Tomestique plan is a good one, and I hope it works out for him next season, but team captain? Uh, no.
Lost in Translation
domani, domani
I look at this one tomorrow. Contador. Heh, he seems to get lost in translation a fair amount.
A contrarian view of Bubble Boy
The thing is IF he can maintain his health AND get into shape he is equal to Vandevelde, without a doubt. He’s much more than a domestique and Garmin in general and Vendevelde in particular could use a second threat in the Grand Tours. Otherwise they are just a poor man’s *Lotto with Evans. (Though Evans at least now has Dekker.)
Harsh, yes. Its also very doubtful at this point that Danielson will develop.
"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken
Just trying to be controversial here.
"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken
Agree that he probably won't develop
Equal to Vandevelde? It’s so hard to have any idea what Danielson can do. He just really isn’t cut out to be a pro bike racer – the head, the resilience both mental and physical just isn’t there.
Heh, was that mean? I think that was mean.
If, and that's a big IF, but . . .
. . . if he keeps his body, and his head together, then he will be a terrific gregario for CVV.
It would be great to see what would happen if CVV can have a guy to support him in the big mountain stages. That might be all it takes to get on the podium somewhere
He is apparently THAT fast
I rode with Michael Rogers for a little while down near San Remo a few weeks ago and somehow Danielson came up in conversation. Just like I’d heard in some other chat with another big pro at some point, and I know Lance commented on it once as well, anyhow, he said: “Nobody can go uphill faster than Tom Danielson. He is so fast. If races started at the base of a mountain and finished at the top, he’d win every time.”
Of course, races don’t start like that very often, and he has a horrible problem with injury and sickness and bla bla bla, but I’m pretty sure that’s why a team like Garmin is keeping him close. If the stars align just right, he’s going to blow the doors off.
I still think it’s pretty humorous how much respect Danielson gets in the pro community and how little he gets (for the most part) everywhere else. Riders speak of his climbing with some kind of reverence you don’t normally hear.
A few minor pieces of gossip
not really worth a post of their own, or even together:
Old Flat-Top himself, Erik Zabel has apparently got a new job over at Columbia as an adviser to Cav. OK Cav probably doesn’t need any advice from anyone on how to go faster, but if he gets the positioning right too then god knows.
A bit of Tour route gossip, too. We know that 2010 will start in Rotterdam, but apparently stage finishes are planned in Brussels and Spa, commemorating the 65th birthday of a certain M Merckx. And even better, the Belgies have possibly landed themselves the Grand Depart in 2012, from Liege. Ardennes in July sounds fascinating.
Even Zabel got Milram and Columbia confused as well?
I like Eric but I would have preferred he would have went back to help his old team( I guess Columbia is sort of his old team), and help out his countrymen Ciolek. But he sure can make Cav even more dominant if he teaches him the tactics of sprint positioning. Hope he helps Greipel out too.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
except there is apparently no future
at Milram or in german cycling in general.
by Christopher See on Nov 30, 2008 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
They should still be around next year right?
It is way to late to just pull out now and disband this team, I thought they were looking to end the sponsership after next year, I’m not sure though, does anyone know?
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Hmm ok
talk about screwing over riders, if Milram just shuts their team down.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
jawohl.
I’d be surprised if they could do that. But I’m so totally behind it on this one. Like, completely off the back, trying to make the time cut ;-)
It would probably bring up some legal issues
it’s one thing for a team to withdraw because of rider damages, such as doping, but I don’t know how a team can just void a bunch of riders contracts because they have new management, and don’t give a Scheiß about sponsoring them.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Some more news
Marchante looks to be going to Cervelo and Bettini might buy the new Fuji team.
I think it might be time for some more Gossip…huh Gav? :)
(via CN)
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Bettini has also said that he may wrap in another team...
…and that fewer teams are a good thing. Pooling resources from two programs to be more efficient and ensure long term viability is a good thing in my opinion.
As is a sponsor leaving the sport, like Milram. Part of me hopes they do, it is probably the only effective deterrent at the moment.
A handful of strong teams with programs in place would be better for the sport in the short term than a ton of teams with low budgets trying to compete with the big guns (we all know what happens next).
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