Good Hair/Bad Hair
by majope on Nov 6, 2008 1:59 PM EST
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PrintNo, this thread is not about Tom Boonen's latest troubles ("Bad hair! Bad!"). Instead, members of the PdC Fashion Watch are invited to submit examples of the peloton's best and worst hairstyle choices--the ones that made you gasp with horror, nod with approval, swoon, or just giggle helplessly.
There is one rule that must be followed on pain of shunning: discussion of Filippo Pozzato cannot take up more than one-third of the entire thread. That means that any time Pippo is featured (incidental mention doesn't count, nor does appearing in a photo where another cyclist is under discussion), at least two posts must follow where other riders get their moment in the spotlight. Fair is fair.
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First up: Fabian Cancellara
Oh, Fabian…blond streaks? First of all, you don’t have the coloring to pull it off. Give Andy or Leenoos a few highlights and they’ll look natural and sun-kissed—you’re too dark for that, dude. And second, the Rule of All Rules: No Frosting on the Beefcake!
Not a bad style, but a chin like that needs more volume up top for balance.
You know, like this:
Now we’re talking! Good Hair!
Love this... Oh Fabian..
I can see myself saying that alot in this thread.
I need to get home from work so i can add mine.. damn it
Oh come on, there can be only one winner here:
(linky)
If it saves all that gel … it’s got to have something going for it.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
But atleast I obeyed the rules and posted the two other piccies. Or do I have to post two more cause I really posted two of Pippo?
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Nov 6, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
That hairstyle was the 2nd biggest mistake of the season.
The biggest mistake was Pippo’s mo at the Vuelta. Bleeuugghh.
Let's get this straight right now
Cornrows DO NOT belong on his head. How he ever thought it was a good idea to put them in his hair, we will probably never know. But, for f!@#’s sake Pippo, make better choices.
If I just had one more gear, I...
That's it
I’m doing cornrows. Next time I’m on a tropical beach… And my wife is nowhere to be seen.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Not a problem
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Dare you to try that look at the ToC in February.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
He'll chicken out. I just know it.
I’ll bring kleenex though just in case. (…to wipe the tears from the laughter consuming us all of course!)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Hm
I dunno. First impressions and all… Ok I’ll do it.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 7, 2008 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
Is anyone keeping track of all the things
that are supposd to happen at our ToC party?
I’m hoping Crashdan but I think he’s spending these first couple weeks of November sleeping.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Or there’s Andy. I think I saw a sparrow nesting in there somewhere.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
you saw the tour presentation, right?
it’s a shot from that.
generally he looks like he gels his hair the night before. then, um, rolls with the results, whatever they may be.
Well you know i'm going to talk to him next year
So all will be fine come next ear announcement..
But if i don’t go the torch will have to be handed to albertina to chat to Andy for me..
Who else ...
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like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
Good god!
It’s like looking at Richard Simmons in a funhouse mirror.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Women are three times less likely to cycle than men because they are put off by “helmet hair” and getting sweaty, a survey said today.
(Indy)
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Nov 6, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Don't let them see that picture, then.
But really. I would expect more stiff-upper-lipism from the women across the pond.
I have a friend who was interested in buying my old bike (my old old bike from university. It's vile really)
But the biggest hurdle was the helmet. I really don’t understand this mentality! Carry a brush!
so many wrongs could not possibly make a right
wada needs to ban mullets. i don’t care what excuse they use. but please, just do it already.
Agree bad hair, ban mullets
But he does have a nice ummm ass :-)
Rear of the year i say, so he has to do wrong somewhere else.
Thomas Dekker: Good Hair
What do you do with wavy hair? Grow it out and let it go. Looks good all clean and neat at the beginning of a race…
…or messy and tousled at the end of a long, long ride:
Gert Jan Tunafish went from this to this. What extremes.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
He had reasons
for not wanting to be recognized
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sweetie... you can post that one as often as you'd like. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Not sure yikes is it but yeah, not a good look on some for sure.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Ohhh my.. Yep thank the peleton for Adam Hansen then.
and niki, you might have guess probably one of my favourite photos ever, except i need to learn to write my comments properly
I meant to say that the chick next to him has pretty good hair too..
Make sure to take plenty of him for us.
I still don’t know what it was about him this year but he is just a cute good guy.
No harm in using up photo disk space at all on him. So snap away!
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Hands down, here's the man crush.
Guess it’s cuz that was my coif for several years.
If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again?
Jens is sooo gonna be confused by that piccie.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Nov 6, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
was there a cyclist in that picture? Can’t recall…
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
uh-huh
she seems to like to take her clothes off: not quite work safe
she has very large boobies and likes to show them off
just you know, making sure the dudes don’t feel left out or anything.
Tsk, how very coy you are being
You should know that the Eyetalians like to do things differently. Italian web-site Ciclismo-online is not only one of the best resources for domestic racing news, but is also the host for the annual Miss Ciclismo award, decided like our very own award by democratic vote. And beware. That bit is unexpectedly NSFW.
unexpectedly?
Photos of women on an Italian website are pretty much guaranteed to be nsfw ;-)
The nipple ring, that had to hurt.
And even more frighteningly
the woman who likes to show them off won’t shut up. I hate it when random web pages start talking to me.
Laurent Brochard. I especially love the Castorama picice. What a fashion faux pas that uniform was.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
That Castorama picture scares me.
If the cycling world really wants to clean up the drugs, maybe they should start with the people who designed that.
Well I won’t post a piccie of Laurent Fignon in it then. But this one of him will have to do. Given the choice, which you you choose – a Tour de France victory or a pony-tail? You shoulda cut it off Laurent! You’re not Rebecca Twigg!
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Nov 6, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
+ several
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Lordy
I’m a little more sympathetic toward that kit, now that I understand the Home Despot look, but who the hell let Brochard out of the house looking like a freaking horse?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
gaaaaaaaah
that was horrible. what was i saying about banning mullets?
and don’t even get me started on that kit.
Can the youth of today compete with the greats of the past. Shay Elliott.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
Most definitely!
A. I’d never seen it before.
B. It’s very funny.
C. Jan did look good in that haircut. Much better than, for instance, this.
Indeed
He can style himself however he wants.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
We've gone far too long
Without a Pippo shot. Let’s go with the Alice in Wonderland look this time—not many guys can pull off bleached blond hair pulled back in a headband. Sorry, that should read not any.
The wide Alice band is worse I would say.
Then there’s this one. He must have a whole drawer full of the things.
Then there's
the Pippo bandanna-pink sunglasses mix.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
I think that pic is from this years Flanders
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Hmm. Can't say I agree.
The hair sticking out the back is almost Seussian. He looks happy, though. Cheerfulness is always worth a few points.
Is that a bandana? Looks more like one of those roll-up neck warmer / topless hat thingeys.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Nov 7, 2008 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
I like it.
He looks uber cool. If you look closely you will see that the bandana/roll up neck warmer/topless hat thingy has little bicycles on. Aww!
Forgive me.
I seem to have some bizarre resistance to Benna’s obvious charms. Perhaps I was dropped on my head too often as a child.
striped headband and sleeveless jersey?
alas my eyes. the plain black thing isn’t too offensive, but really, with the time he spends, he could definitely do better.
That second one should come with a health warning Albertina. And the Alice band looks more like a throw-back to those horrible 80s sweatbands.
pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway
by fmk on Nov 7, 2008 7:42 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry. Just wanted to induce some sort of shock factor ;-)
Both he and Quinzi seem determined to wear as little as possible and still be just about decent on their morning ride. Just about decent maybe, but inadvisable, no?!
Pippo hearts Totti?
Circa 2002 at least.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Might I suggest that we now view some good hair?
You know who shows the rest of the peloton how it’s done.
Looks good until the gel fails.
I’m not going to use the M-word, but it’s looking suspiciously long in the back…
Albertina, Benna Giro shot is needed..
I can’t put it up, it’s on my facebook.. The one with him with black bandana, thats a winner for sure….
Gotta give some love
to the dopers
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Throwing out riders for bad looks?
that might be a great idea, think about it, we would have gotten rid of Kohl and Sella before they could dope.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Yep true
actually it appears that almost all dopers are quite ugly
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Now, now.
Picking on them for their hair, fashion, and doping choices is fair game. But presence or absence of hottitude genes is a matter of luck.
Unless you have photographic evidence to the contrary, Kohl’s biggest fashion mistake was wearing a polka dot jersey that didn’t rightfully belong to him. Ricco, on the other hand, was an utter sartorial mess.
Ahh they're cheaters
it’s ok to call them ugly, I promise I wont call any of the clean riders ugly any time soon, that would be absolutely unacceptable.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
I was thinking Mr. G.P. didn't belong in a hair thread
Then I remembered this shot by Timm Kölln where his hair actually looks pretty good:
Hmm.
Mr G.P. certainly looked better with more hair. In Overcoming, where the hair is in evidence, he’s really very hot. Not that he isn’t now…but I do wish he’d grow some hair, even if it is receeding.
it doesn't matter how many times I see that Ricco outfit,
I still can’t help laughing helplessly (and spilling my drink).
I’m so going to miss his fashion sense. But not much else…
Don't forget Cav's former track partner
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
I've always wanted to know
where that top came from. Was the dog sick on his last clean shirt and he had to borrow something from his wife. V-neck jumpers are pretty much a no-no even if you’ve got something underneath. Without, well I just shudder.
i've never been able to decide
which part of that photo is the worst. but the vee neck thing is definitely a candidate.
Ohhhh just spilt coffee again, two days in a row..
Please keep feeding. I’m saving that to Hottie folder..
Ok just realised two photos there..
Yes I need CPR, now…………………………………………………Boonen and Dekker together…
Did you say...
Boonen and Dekker together? Arguing over who looked better in that last shot, no doubt.
(Chris, please note that I’m posting the bulk of the Curacao pics as links instead of in the main thread. Am I allowed to stay?)
where
was this taken? So familiar looking.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Heinrich Haussler
of Team Duran Duran. Bonus points for courage, though, if that is mascara (check out the bottom lashes in particular).
Yikes
he is so off my VDS team, even if he’s still only 4 pts.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
So looks like a chick
That may fly in Germany, but I bet it wouldn’t in Australia, where he’s from.
If I just had one more gear, I...
Not a very dangerous looking
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
which of course
is when he’s MOST dangerous.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
From what I remember
my nephews wanted to have stripes shaved into their hair round about that time. Probably in response to some other cultural phenomenon that just passed me by.
Jeezus!
Get your head caught in the waffle iron again?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
No hair thread could be complete
without Erik Zabel. Props for a long and distinguished career (including the win in the Dortmunder six-day just the other day), but it’s damn hard to look at him and not think Here come ol’ flat top…
And a couple more from back in the good old days
when you could actually see the riders’ hair while they were riding.
Michele Bartoli rockin’ the long and wavy look on the Alpe d’Huez time trial:
But wait, where are Michele’s famous Elvis-style sideburns?
Ah, I guess Gibo took them:
Oscar Pereiro didn’t spare the hair gel, but as part of the Spanish team, I think it may be mandatory.
you know,
as talented as the Spanish kids are with the hair gel, no one does hair gel like the Italian boys ;-)
A grand tour winning
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
now
that’s kind of cool. Pre-Beckham.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
more evidence...
that cyclists look best in their kit on their bikes.
leave the pool/beach shots to us swimmers, boys…
Yum, surfers.
I’ve only been surfing once. The sea was fun and all that but the surfers….a whole different league.
I love the bikers on the beach pics
Okay, obviously. But skinny guys with distinct tan lines and shaved legs—what’s not to love?
How the hell
has nobody yet mentioned Zabriskie
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
American Flyers
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
You want more Dave?
because I got some more Dave, those kids expressions in the background say it all.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Let's not forget
Dave’s teammate Cozza either
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Let's keep the Garmin love
check out this pick of Danny Pate
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
A more recent one but not nearly as funny as the one above.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
That is the most absolutely perfect representation of helmet hair I have ever seen.
It should be used in the wikipedia article for Helmet Hair.
Dang
it’s too bad people don’t ever have fun around here.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 6, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions
I almost forgot
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
The ProCycling magazine calendar on my office wall has a picture of Karpets this month.
Can’t it be December already?!
well, yes
i doubt he will need further inducement than that, will he.
he has a school for young cyclists. think we could go? we’re young, right?
Ok Sorry But here's a couple of hot looking Hair from Liquigas. mmm
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Pippo having good day’s, love them this is when he sweats Sexiness
I love Will Frischkorn's comment in his Tour diary this year
We were the first bus out of team parking. First! Smoked em!…With only 5km to the hotel we were watching the race wrap-up on France 3 TV back in the rooms while the Liquigas boys were most likely still blow-drying their hair and spritzing some scent for the ride home. Simple pleasures. …
But I can say - There scent is OMG, I was weak at the knees
and i do remember in my lost it moment with Pippo, I said " You smell good".. He Said " I hope so, I did it for you".. mmmm Nice smelling and Charmer
It may be cliche Katiek, but if you were there
and if he was talking to you, you would have believed anything he said.. and he smelt good..
and charming he was, not only did he calm me down, pick up the stuff i dropped, but for the rest of the night, whenever i walked past he chatted, cheeked kiss, and the next day at the stage start.. in front of everyone he saw me, stopped riding and called my name, and called me ver to talk, so charming, YES..
Dear... you have so much more to spill than that the tidbits you have so far.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
well then little white lie was told then in this tidbit, the truth
he called my name, and pointed to his cheek, to which i walked over and gave him a kiss on the cheek, he smiled and then left me in heaven…..Swoooooon..
I so hope Will is too busy visiting with his parents
to be reading us right now.
This picture was worth some laughs.
It was from the team site during the Tour.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
I believe those Leenoos pics were the inspiration for this whole thread.
He fell so far, so fast. Let us all hope he comes to his senses soon.
I thought as much.
I know the Gerrrrrdemann mop has been discussed elsewhere but no thread of this nature would be complete without it! Don’t worry; my scissors are the first item I shall pack before going to the Tour next year.
Speaking of Leenoos
Once again, it’s worth remembering: helmet hair is no one’s fault. But his face looks way too thin in that shot. Please, Albertina—throw some cookies in with the scissors.
If Leeenooos just pushed his bangs back
and lightened his hair just a little bit, he’d almost have a Tory Burch look going. Then Lance would know who he is.
Boonen in 2003
With a bit more to the hairline. He’s had roughly the same hairstyle for years, just a little less of it as time goes by. Still one of the hotties, though.
Hmm, roughly the same,
although he used to have more at the back (don’t mention the M word)
Most of that has come off this year.
That earring looks a lot like the one Haussler is wearing above.
Maybe they bought a pair and split them?
Does anyone else think of Tyler Farrar when they see this?
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
lol it wasn't an order just wondering what that gelled mop would like like afterwards
but if you feel the urge to search ;)
I feel the urge regularly. Unfortunately I have a job. Later....
This is indeed something we must find out ;-)
Double darn
this picture really isn’t worth this many attempts.
With my typing skills, I need an edit function!
You all are bad influences! I should be working and instead I am looking at men's hair.
and other men’s parts.
Then we should resist any posts of George then right?
As that might just knock off the entire rest of your day….
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Oh I knew it was only a matter of time before Georgie would start showing up.
He gets a vote in the good and bad sides. Anyone have that pic of him with Lance and a few other on the cover of Cycling Weekly about 12 years ago where he has a giant ’fro and a headband on? I have it at home.
Al Gore
was a bike racer?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 7, 2008 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
assuming you're insinuating Lance looks like Gore in that photo
I can see it, yeah.
I wonder what George thinks when he sees this one.
That's LANCE???
Seriously, I can see the face, but he’s wearing an Al Gore wig, I’m sure of it.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 7, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Oy
this whole photo looks like a photoshop blackmail piece.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Nov 7, 2008 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
That pic is from Colorado Springs
were they have the Olympic training center, I can tell because of Pike Peak in the background. I went mountain biking a couple weeks ago and I saw that picture in the rental shop, it’s a beauty.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
It's the gift that keeps on giving
Just when you didn’t think it could get any funnier, you notice Hincapie’s handlebar-tape.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
300 hairrific posts!
Obviously, this was a topic that had to be unleashed.
Well, I’m off for the weekend to a writers’ retreat, where I probably won’t have half as much fun. Enjoy yourselves while I’m gone!
lol
I was just noticing the number of comments. Serious business, this hair.
Have a great weekend :-)
Very Impressive. I remember checking at lunch yesterday
and then having some work that pulled me away. Then last night I come visit and there are like 200 lines.
So funny and quite entertaining. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
What could be more serious than the hair styles of the peloton?
It is something we must continue to monitor throughout the next season. Photographs will do up to a point, but we will also be dispatching a team of undercover field agents, armed with cameras, brushes and scissors. From Australia to Cali to the Ventoux to the Giro, we will be there.
I could be part of the Giro team,
I’m going to Rome in May and I’ll have my brushes ready for the guys. But how do we get rid of the excess of hairgel in a hurry?
Stick their heads under a tap?
We could use sniffer dogs in the team hotels to find the stuff lurking in their bags too. Yes, a fine plan methinks.
Yes, fine plan,
just tell me the hotel they are staying in and I’ll be there with my canine helpers. They can also point me to the nearest tap. (I know I should be able to locate that myself but I might get um… distracted…)
So you're going to blame me
if there’s an ounce of hair gel in the peloton when they enter Rome on the 31st?
I think I prefer to get distracted.
well i'm sure if there is a group of stylist going over
then they will all be to distracted to even worry about hair gel!!!!!!
They will be to busy charming us.. :-)
300 is a lot of posts
but at least a couple of them are from me trying to post a pic numerous times.
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