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HTFU Edition.

It was a rough day here at the Gossip World Headquarters. All we wanted was a cup of coffee and an internet connection and THEY WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO US!

Ahem.

This Gossip business, not for the faint of heart. But we have persevered and scoured the interwebs to bring you all the Gossip that really matters, and probably a whole bunch that doesn't. It's not like we're solving world hunger or anything.

En avant, mes amis. That's French. It means, move along now, nothing to see here. (Roughly.)

Star-divide

The DRAMA continues. Tuesday in Spain, Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador went on Separate Rides. Not together, separate. The photographers gathered to cover the Astana training camp cried in their paella as they were denied the chance to photograph the two former Tour winners together. According to the Spanish press, the Separate Rides incident signals tension between Armstrong and Contador and the formation of Two Camps within the team, with Popovych and Leipheimer firmly on the side of Armstrong. As the Wheel Turns. According to a press release issued by Team Astana, Contador and Armstrong will train together on Wednesday. Expect smiles through gritted teeth all around.

In related news, the ASO responded to the announcement that Armstrong intended to ride the Tour de France this July with a somnolent non-comment. Eh, okay, he is coming to our race. We are trembling with excitement. Yawn. Christian Prudhomme denied that the ASO had offered Armstrong any special arrangements to ensure his safety, one of the concerns that Armstrong had trumpeted to the press in recent weeks. Said Prudhomme, "Proximity is inarguably the character of cycling in general, and the Tour de France in particular. This accessibility must certainly remain. For us as organizers, the Tour de France as a public celebration is an integral aspect of the race." Bernard Hinault publicly pou-pou'd Armstrong's comments about his personal security. Said the Badger, "He is not a President of the Republic, nor a god. If he is paranoid, that is his problem." Shorter: HTFU.

Speaking of HingTFU, the Saxo-Bank-no longer IT Boys, have been off in Denmark enjoying their team-building sufferfest. It involved cold water, guns, and walking around a lot. Astana went surfing in Southern Spain. And they got to wear booties, unlike the Saxo Bankers up in the frigid waters of Denmark. Here at the Gossip World Headquarters, we do not like cold feet. Plainly, we need to HTFU.

Stefano Fanini has signed with Fuji-Servetto as a sports director. Fanini leaves Silence-Lotto to take on the new challenge. In his sixteen years as professional, Fanini counted among his victories two stages of the Giro d'Italia, a stage of the Tour de France, and the Amstel Gold Race. Speaking of Fuji-Servetto, no further word has surfaced about the possible merger between Acqua&Sapone and Fuji-Servetto. Nor has confirmation arrived that Paolo Bettini will join either team. Mauro Gianetti has publicly denied selling the team to anyone, but admitted in a press release last weekend that he is pursuing various options to deal with the likely shunning of his team by the grand tour organizers. Those pro tour licenses, sure not what they used to be. According to a Tuesday press release from the UCI, Acqua&Sapone-Cafe Mokambo has received a Pro Continental license for next season. Did Gazzetta lie to us? It wouldn't be the first time. But perhaps the story is not yet finished.

In other Fuji-Servetto news, the U23 World Champion, Fabio Duarte of Colombia, has signed a contract with Gianetti. Gianni Savio recruited the South American climber to Diquigiovanni-Androni in 2007, but Duarte chose to return to the amateur ranks without riding out his contract. Duarte attacked repeatedly in the final lap of the road race in Varese, foiling the combined efforts of Damiano Caruso and his team-mates to secure an Italian victory. A whiff of doping scandals past marred the celebration for Duarte, though, as the press uncovered the news that the Colombian Federation had failed to investigate high testosterone levels in Duarte's test results. Duarte tested positive for testosterone in July 2007 at the Clasica de Girardot in Colombia, but he claims he has naturally high levels. At Varese, the UCI vowed to look into the matter. Hello? Anyone? Apparently, they're still looking. Or maybe they forgot. He's only the U23 World Champion and Fuji-Servetto is only a pro tour team. Not really worth the effort or anything. Nothing to see here, move along now. In other Fuji-Servetto news, Australian William Walker will also ride for the team next year. The 24 year old comes from Rabobank, where he passed a quiet season.

Speaking of Scandals past, Jörg Jacksche will ride for the Italian Continental team, Cinelli, next season. There, he will join Frank Vandenbroucke. The 32 year old Jacksche, who won Paris-Nice in 2004, has spent a long exile in the wilderness after being caught up in the Puerto scandal and speaking openly to the press about the doping practices of he had encountered in the sport. Among other things, he claimed that Bjarne Riis told him to dope. For his pains, he earned insult and opprobrium from many throughout the sport. At last he will return to racing in Italy. With Vandenbroucke as a team-mate, we doubt very much anyone will notice Jörg.

Emanuele Sella has received a one year vacation from racing from the Italian national anti-doping court. The reduced sanction - the maximum reduction allowed by the rules - came as a consequence of Sella's willingness to cooperate with the authorities. He named his team-mate Matteo Priamo as his supplier for the CERA which showed up in an out-of-competition test on 23 July. Sella will return to racing on 18 August of next year. According to reports in the Italian press, he will return to his same team, CSF-Navigare. Forgive and forget, that's what we always say. CONI has also opened an investigation of Priamo, who won the 6th stage of this year's Giro d'Italia. A recent search of Priamo's house uncovered a stash of anabolic steroids. He claimed that the steroids belonged to his mother. Our sources tell us that female body building is all the rage in Italy these days among the Mommy Set. Meanwile in Modena, Riccardo Riccò jabs more pins into his CONI doll. Despite his willingness to finger Dr. Santuccione as his source, Riccò received a two year sanction. The Modenese has since filed an appeal with TAS, in an effort to secure a shorter sanction. The decision is expected in the next three months.

Carlos Sastre has gained an ally in his quest next year to win another grand tour. According to the Spanish press, climber José Angel Gomez Marchante will ride for Cervélo TestTeam next season. In 2006, the 28 year old climber finished fifth in the Vuelta a España. Injuries have ruined the past two seasons for Gomez Marchant. Should he remain upright, Gomez Marchante promises to provide solid support to Sastre in the high mountains. José Angel Gomez Marchante should under no circumstances be confused with Angel Gomez Gomez of doodsmak fame.

Sour Milk? According to reports in the German press, Milram is considering an early end to their sponsorship, stopping their funding of the team at the end of the 2009 season. A spokesperson confirmed that the Northern German dairy company, which works with 7000 farmers, is reviewing its commitment, but refused to offer any details. The current contract runs until the end of 2010, but the sport's ongoing doping scandals and the decision of German television channels ARD and ZDF to end live coverage of the Tour de France have led executives at Milram to question the continued commitment to cycling. An enthusiastic fan within the management team, in this case marketing manager Martin Mischel, promoted the company's involvement in cycling. Mischel recently left Milram, and with his departure, the team lost its principal advocate within the company. As of now, no decision has been made, and team manager Gerry van Gerwen will meet with officials from Milram on 3 December. It also remains unclear under what terms Milram could end its contract. The team's budget is 9 million euro per year. In the case of T-Mobile, for example, Bob Stapleton received a significant buy-out payment from the German telecommunications giant. Leenoos Gerdemann, who recently signed a two year contract with Milram after buying out the remaining year with Team Columbia, hopes that Milram will fulfill their two year agreement. He believes that the young and "homogeneous" roster at the team, which has become more German during the recent transfer season, will help make cycling appealing to sponsors again. Hopefully, Leenoos will not be left crying over spilt milk in udder disappointment.

In happier news, fans of German cycling can rejoice in the resurrection of the Rund um den Henninger Turm. Threatened with extinction by the withdrawal of its title sponsor, a restaurant, the local government in Frankfurt has decided to sponsor the race. The Rund (which is totally different from a Rundfahrt) typically takes place around 1 May, following the Ardennes classics. Karsten Kroon won last year's edition.

Fränk Schleck has a hot date with ALAD. The Luxembourg Anti-Doping Agency is continuing to investigate the possible relationship between Schleck and Dr. Fuentes. Schleck reportedly paid 6.991,91 Euro into the Swiss account of Fuentes, a payment he claims bought training plans, not doping products. ALAD met with Schleck previously in October, but did not have sufficient information to reach a decision. Schleck will appear at a hearing on 9 December. No word yet as to what if any sanctions the agency may be considering.

Gratuitous Benna News! The Bennati Fan Club will host a party honoring their favorite bike racer on 7 December at the Hotel Planet di Rigutino. Benna will be in attendance. Girls, book your flights now. Other riders will also attend. We won't bore you will the whole list. Benna's successes and career highlights will be shown a big screen teevee. Did I mention Benna will be there? We must watch carefully for photos of this very important event.

A prize for Il Grillo! On 9 December, Paolo Bettini will receive a prize from the International Association of Cycling Journalists. The prize recognizes the rider who has shown the best attitude toward the press. Among those nominated for their willlingness to answer endless questions were Alejandro Valverde, Philippe Gilbert, and Erik Zabel. The criteria for the award includes "professional qualities," "respect for ethics," and above all a good relationship with the press. Chapeau to Bettini!

TelTeck-H20 will ride Museeuw bikes for the next three seasons. The Belgian pronounced himself pleased with the agreement. He also said he would provide technical assistance to the team when they race in Beligium. The bikes are apparently made of a carbon-flax fibre weave, which promises to provide enhanced riding comfort and shock-absorbing capabilities. Want to know more or drool on the bikes? Head over to the the webby and have a look.

Phew. That's all for now. This off-season Gossiping is a rough business. Uphill both ways. In the SNOW!

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YAAAYYY

It had to be said.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris... on Dec 2, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

coupla things

Lance and Contador probably aren’t in the same shape. Didn’t Contador just have some sort of operation?

Also, while I wouldn’t nominate Bettini, there really needs to be a Nobel Prize for Cycling. And if the award itself is a cobble mounted on a stand, that’d be OK too.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris... on Dec 2, 2008 7:46 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Contador?

Yeah, that’s in the press release. I was too lazy to include it. B’sides, I hate to let facts get in the way of a little drama ;-)

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 7:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Definitely

Lance is showing up for the TDU, which is at least a month before Alberto was slated to start his first race. Lance has also said that he’s much farther along than normal.

by dheadrick on Dec 2, 2008 10:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"And if the award itself is a cobble mounted on a stand, that’d be OK too."

Are you saying that Boonen won the cycling Nobel prize this year? I personally never saw getting busted for coke as a genius move, but everyone defines genius in their own ways I guess. :)

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 2, 2008 11:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aww.

All we wanted was a cup of coffee and an internet connection and THEY WOULDN’T GIVE IT TO US!

Have you tipped us tech boys lately? Hmmm?

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken

by ursula on Dec 2, 2008 7:53 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well...

It was at Peets. And I always tip very very well at the local coffee spots, cuz it leads to good things.

But I didn’t tip the IT guy specifically, cuz like, where do I find him? Or her, cuz maybe he’s a she. Or something like that.

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 7:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

I was thinking more of the IT guys at PdC World Headquarters, some of whom are in that building to the left of the Gossip Building (GB):

;)

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken

by ursula on Dec 2, 2008 8:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

be your best friend ;-)

hey, i even brought back the t-square and the slide rule!

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That you did

Okay free mega speed internet connections for you the rest of your life!

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken

by ursula on Dec 2, 2008 8:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sweet dood

I’m so set up now ;-)

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I probably shouldn't be saying this

but I was reading this once again tremendous Gossip while drinking freshly brewed delicious coffee, Sorry Gav :)

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 2, 2008 7:59 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bastardo!

Not only did it get cold on the way home, but it was also in a paper cup. Insult to injury.

Eh, tomorrow’s another day.

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, i"m so dearly sorry :)

maybe you should go get a coffee machine for Christmas, these situations wouldn’t happen then.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 2, 2008 8:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

If you only knew the coffee technology installed here at the Gav Shack. Almost as extensive as the cycling inventory, including over-priced shiney Italian components. Hmm, no carbon fiber, though, that I’m aware.

Anyway…

I mostly just wanted to go hang out at the new Peets for a bit. You know, smell that new Peets smell.

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well than you shouldn't be complaining so much :)

maybe this will cheer you up.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 2, 2008 8:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bahahaahaha!

That actually looks pretty fun.

I also enjoyed Gazzetta’s snarky comment about Armstrong’s surfing stance. They said he looks better on the bike. Can’t say I disagree ;-)

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes very snarky little statement

sort of countered by CN saying that “Basso’s no Simoni when it comes to off-road skills” on this photo.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 2, 2008 8:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha! I was going to post that! You beat me to it :(

Much as looking at pictures of Mr Guilty Pleasure is nice (and especially amusing when he’s ended up in a heap in the snow), why is he the only member of Leaky that they’ve seen fit to photograph? I want to see photos of Benna in the snow!!!! I’m off to have a tantrum now.

by Albertina on Dec 3, 2008 8:25 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it an AP photo?

Maybe they thought it was Benna.

by majope on Dec 3, 2008 8:45 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should he be that close to water?

Is that safe?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Dec 3, 2008 9:07 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably not

He really should have a life jacket on. Just for safety and all.

by gavia on Dec 3, 2008 12:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Err, I knew I shouldn't have posted that Basso pic

before I know it, you man hungry women here have posted this pic. All I did was post a pic were he was very clothed and in the snow, and suddenly there is a pic with him shirtless on the beach. Why, oh why must this be? :)

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 3, 2008 12:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That picture violates the FRPB!

First Rule of Photographing Basso: Do not hide the eyes.

Burn it, I say.

by majope on Dec 3, 2008 3:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know CPR

Note Basso: When going close to water, call cyclegirl to be your lifeguard..

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Dec 3, 2008 4:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

Yeah, the eyes are his best feature, no doubt. But really, I couldn’t let this pass without posting it. Bored at work, I had a little look at the Basso blog and was nearly blinded by this as soon as the page opened! I almost fell off my lovely swivley chair.

by Albertina on Dec 3, 2008 6:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and here is

GI Fabian who doesn’t seem to be enjoying the snow quite as much

by Katiek on Dec 4, 2008 5:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fabian in Army gear

It’s like a dream i once had, hehehe… Me bossing him around at work.. :-)

Oh i’ve said too much…

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Dec 4, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh Katiek, you've made my day!

Ski lodge Benna is simply fabulous :-)

by Albertina on Dec 5, 2008 4:45 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay.... that made me smile too. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Dec 2, 2008 10:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"As the Wheel Turns."

Excellent!
Another great Gossip Gav!

by Veloki on Dec 2, 2008 8:03 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm here for ya girly

b’sides, i gotta keep the graphics girl happy!

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And cheers for the inclusion of SNOW. tee hee. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Dec 2, 2008 10:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crap

I meant to blah blah about the Leogrande case. Too late now, cuz I’m tired.

Eh, doperz suck anyway.

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:24 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

’Nuff said.

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken

by ursula on Dec 2, 2008 8:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You've had a tough day

Put your feet up and check out the Triple Crown online – if you aren’t already watching.
Sunset it pumping! :-)

by Veloki on Dec 2, 2008 8:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah, freakin' awesome

it’s huge!

‘kay i’m off to watch surfing. talk amongst yourselves ;-)

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

okee

that was short – but the highlights were cool.

can’t wait for tomorrow’s heats. cuz i didn’t really want to get anything done tomorrow, did i?

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 9:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i posted something about this

in the general column yesterday. kinda struck me as a particularly virulent strain of doper. but now i’m sitting at the airport with an ocular migraine, seeing stars, so i won’t try to cross-reference…

by nickel17 on Dec 3, 2008 10:23 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yikes. Hope you feel better soon.

My daughter gets those. Ice on the base of the neck works for her most times. She also gets horrid, mind blowing migraines too. Poor thing.

by ZoeRochelle on Dec 3, 2008 11:36 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The bit about posing for photos with Joe Papp

That was fucked up right there.

I think you posted that, or maybe I saw it elsewhere. Nasty business all the way around. Don’t let the door hit ya on way out there, Kayle.

by gavia on Dec 3, 2008 12:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ToC

I see on CN news that California has dropped the women’s three day race to a one day crit and the opening mens stage is now a Prologue ITT.

"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken

by ursula on Dec 2, 2008 8:36 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ja

I think VN had that earlier today or yesterday. That’s really too bad, because the Tour of Cali is a huge opportunity to show women’s cycling to a wider audience.

Crappo.

by gavia on Dec 2, 2008 8:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

right with ya on that gavia!!

we have some terrific women riding. would have loved to see the gals ride in more than just one crit….darn!!….bummer, bummer, bummer!!

by steph- on Dec 3, 2008 3:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Astana training camp pics

up at the Astana website. A whole bunch of good photos, and they aren’t all of Lance.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 2, 2008 8:38 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes,

I know I’ve been reading a lot of the cycling sites, when I can not only recognize the riders, but also the soigneurs.

by Katiek on Dec 3, 2008 10:54 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A most impressive edition, kudos and thanks.

by Katiek on Dec 2, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Frank Schleck has to have a holiday..

I’m sending an invitation out to Frank if ALAD suspend for a period of time, I know an Aussie chick who will gladly pay for your services, come and do some training with me :-)

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Dec 2, 2008 10:08 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In the off season, cross training is very common . . .

 . . . like running, hiking, ’n stuff.

I’m sure that’s what you meant, right?

by Ryan_Liles on Dec 3, 2008 6:46 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

running, hiking

I do that at work!!

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Dec 3, 2008 4:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At work I sit. All day.

But I do run up the stairs after lunch.

by Albertina on Dec 3, 2008 6:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All I wanted was a pepsi

and they wouldn’t give it to me!

Flahutes: Harden the F--k Up!

by bobgade on Dec 2, 2008 11:28 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"All we wanted was a cup of coffee and an internet connection and THEY WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO US! "

Gavia, it just occurred to me. If you referred to yourself in third person when asking for help at Peets, that might well be a contributing factor in you not getting the level of service one usually expects.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Dec 3, 2008 8:09 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

The Peetniks were plenty nice. It was just their internet server that did not show the required love.

And I do tip well ;-)

by gavia on Dec 3, 2008 12:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a Benna party?

Come on girls, off we go to Rigutino! Benna’s site doesn’t update its photos all that often…but here’s hoping :-)

http://www.danielebennati.it/UserFiles/Image/2008/bennaticena.jpg

by Albertina on Dec 3, 2008 8:38 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yo Lyne....

…can we get a flight to Italy from SFO this weekend….yeow!

by steph- on Dec 3, 2008 3:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Such an event cannot possibly take place without us.

In fact, why haven’t we been invited already? So not fair.

by Albertina on Dec 3, 2008 6:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They don't invite potential stalkers

so that’s probably why you haven’t been invited yet

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 3, 2008 6:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ST

All I wanted was a coffee and she wouldn’t give it to me, just one coffee…

Milram, bad news for the Germans. Now that Pevenge has a job maybe there will be a mass exodus of Franks to the states. I just can’t picture Jan in RR duds…then again he did say he’s spending time with the kids. I’ve heard that same quote from someone else before….hmmm.

Carbon flax frames, if they break they’re also a good source of Omega 3 fatty acids. Good to ride on and good for the body too.

by spokejunky on Dec 3, 2008 8:40 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not crazy...

you’re the one that’s crazy…..
Yep Triple crown needs a live thread..
BIG!
Too bad my favorite exotic break faces south or I’d have to search up some stuff from Tahiti.
Aw well off to do construction stuff in the cold yuck of a fizzelly December.

by Fred Marx on Dec 3, 2008 9:17 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm trying to picture

Hinault, throwing Armstrong off the podium.

Bork, bork, bork!

by TheFigurehead on Dec 3, 2008 12:22 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

alpha dog

I just don’t see how this Astana / AC / LA / LL / AK / etc thing is going to work. I recall TMob chasing each other down in a TdF a few years back. Something like is going to happen.

by phantom_51 on Dec 3, 2008 12:26 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed

Kloden has been a nice, deferential teammate at times (Tour ’07?), as has Levi. The only possibility is Lance chasing Contador, or vice versa, but somehow I think not.

CQRanking.com, you complete me.

by Chris... on Dec 3, 2008 7:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The last team split occured . . .

 . . . way back when Levi shafted Heras in the Vuelta.

I don’t think that will happen again either.

by Ryan_Liles on Dec 3, 2008 11:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Italian fashion news

tuttobiciweb reports that Dolce & Gabbana will design the maglia rosa for the centenary Giro d’Italia.

This should make it even tougher for a fashion-challenged American like Armstrong to wrest the maglia rosa from the hands of such experienced fashionistos as Basso, Di Luca, and Simoni. All Italian riders dream of wearing the maglia rosa for even one day, but a maglia rosa designed by Dolce & Gabbana? Look out!

by Tifosa on Dec 3, 2008 12:31 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They just pissed Ricco off more

how much he wants that Dolce pink jersey, but he can’t have it.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 3, 2008 12:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

he’ll have to make RCS and a D&G dolls. hope he has a solid supply of pins stashed away.

by gavia on Dec 3, 2008 12:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know if he has pins

but I’m sure he still has plenty of needles that he can use as pins :)

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Dec 3, 2008 12:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but WHO will design the shoes?

Who cares about a jersey. I want to see the SHOES!

Sometimes I wonder...why is that Frisbee getting bigger?...and then it hits me.

by bethie on Dec 3, 2008 1:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If they make them with stiletto-highheels

perhaps they can coax Robert Millar into making a comeback too?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Dec 3, 2008 1:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just another reason to try and make to Italy this year

or just glue my butt to the couch and watch RAI ;)

by lyne on Dec 3, 2008 2:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mmm, yes

Giro. How much longer?

by gavia on Dec 3, 2008 2:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone

know if VS is carrying live stages? I wonder if they can resist…

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by Chris... on Dec 3, 2008 6:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It could get nasty between these desperate Italians.

Perhaps they might employ violent tactics to get their hands on it. I’m thinking the Ben Hur chariot race on bikes….. Can’t wait ;-)

by Albertina on Dec 3, 2008 6:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laurens Ten Dam just got married

In Maastricht Congratulations to him and Tessa Neef in the local Northern Netherlands paper (the area where he was born). (Her name means “nephew” in Dutch…how confusing.) They call him the “Raborelevatie” (Rabo-revelation) of the Tour. Is that less or more distraction for next season?

by JFS_PGH on Dec 4, 2008 4:15 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Raborevelatie

Isn’t he pushing 30?

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by Chris... on Dec 4, 2008 2:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So.. No one is gonne read this so I get my bet.. (Sounds nice.. In English, I think,

it sounds pretty stupid)

First fact:
Gilbert has won Belgium rider of the year. Devolder got second for Boonen, Nys and van Avermaet.. Think he said something like: OMG never though I won this year.. It was one of my strongest years but I never though I could win this.. Thank u all for you support!.. But that’s what I think..

Second: (This is why I post it when everbody is gone.. 2 reasons.. Somebody had to noticed this so I probably missed the article)
Before the end of the year we get positive riders.. PAt Mcquaid siad they spotted a few riders So.. How big will it be?

Third.. If you ae bored for 1 minute.. Throw on Ricco..
If you don’t like bleed(?) don’t hit is eyes..

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Dec 4, 2008 1:17 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ooohh somebody was pissed off at Mr Ricco

btw there are other spots that bleed.

I read that mcQuaid statement earlier too, hard to say if it’s just bluster of real. We’ll just have to wait I guess.

by lyne on Dec 4, 2008 1:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

broken link?

I can’t see the Ricco thing.

Frinking: is this a public vote? So Gilbert is more popular? That doesn’t surprise me, this year. Do people like Devolder?

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by Chris... on Dec 4, 2008 2:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah. You had to remove the podiumcafe thing..

Here again

And no.. It was an official thing.. He got the ‘kristallen fiets’

1. Philippe Gilbert 478 ptn
2. Stijn Devolder 416
3. Tom Boonen 372
4. Sven Nys 294
5. Greg Van Avermaet 202

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Dec 4, 2008 3:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chris...

HERE is a direct link.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Dec 4, 2008 4:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Got it!

Am making a new post, front page.

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by Chris... on Dec 4, 2008 4:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yay, Gilbert, Love him.................

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Dec 4, 2008 5:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

saw the mcquaid thing

I decided I’m ignoring it until he produces the names. Cuz really, I can’t be bothered with maybe-might-could be doping scandals. Dammit, I want the real deal.

LOL, um, right. Anyway, yeah, I’ll wait and see what comes of that. Hard to know if he’s actually serious or just talking smack.

By the way, this came up in another thready, but do you know if Gesink is riding the Tour de France next year?

by gavia on Dec 4, 2008 6:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah I saw it...

But I really don’t know.. They will be crazy if they don’t..
Think it’s gonna be probably something like this:
Menchov, Gesink, Garate, Langeveld, Posthuma, Flecha, Freire, Tankink, Clement

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Dec 5, 2008 8:45 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How lovely

Is he aware that he has sponsors?

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by Chris... on Dec 4, 2008 2:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha ha, that's quite odd looking, a little blue hand making a gun gesture. Classy.

Of course we may all be able to buy it soon, on his online shop. It’s so no fair that the underwear option has disappeared.

by Albertina on Dec 4, 2008 3:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh. I've got to disagree, respectfully, there...

I find it distasteful, and actually a little disturbing.

It actually bothers me to watch him do it at the finish line. I can’t explain why: I have a great sense of humor, but ….It is just so wrong, wrong, wrong, on so many levels.

by Ruthann on Dec 4, 2008 9:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hope you're staying warm Ruthann!

How much snow do you guys have?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Dec 4, 2008 9:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hi, Nikki! (<>)

Not too much snow, barely enough to cover the dead grass, but Brrrrrr, had a high of, like, 17 today. Hubby is ice fishing like mad, out of control with joy, 6+ inches of ice on the early-season lakes already. The freezer is filling up with crappie and perch fillets already :-)

For me, I’m staying warm: the exercise bike is all set up in the basement in front of the tv, and I’m in the middle of watching Stage 10 of the ’08 Tour – bliss.

How is your labyrinthitis, btw? And you guys have been hit with all the snow that has passed to the south of us, how much do you have?

by Ruthann on Dec 4, 2008 9:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lake Perch... I am so jealous.

I made my friends go for a friday night fish fry for perch the last time I was up North. Sooooo good. :-)
We’ve got a few inches on the ground but it hasn’t been too bad (yet). Temps are steadily dropping and now staying in mid 20’s. I’m watching your 05 Giro and I too am enjoying time indoors. As for my labrynthitis it is being a pain and has not gone completely away. Only notice it now when I go to bed. Laying down is awful for the first minute or so. Then it’s gone. Frustrating more than anything.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Dec 4, 2008 10:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Add your own caption to this photo

or this one

what do you want to bet that after they took this pic, they started to arm wrestle

by Katiek on Dec 4, 2008 2:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh my... that 2nd one (under "or this one")

certainly could be framed and hung on a wall.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Dec 4, 2008 2:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow; Lance looks .......old

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Dec 4, 2008 4:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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