Back Pocket Previews: Katyusha
Time to flip the calendar on 2008. I tried to wait, but it's killing me... and yeah, I promised to start with Bweeg, but I just can't. Yet.
I'll take a wild guess and say that one of the more memorable elements to the upcoming year will be the Russification of the peloton. Not in any dominant way; Russian riders won't be obscuring their Spanish or Italian brethren anytime soon. But there are two rather huge milestones coming our way: the first Russian team in the top rung of pro cycling, and the first Russian race in the top-rung calendar. For at least one week, while Team Katyusha is unleashing its full arsenal on the Sochi Tour, you can be forgiven for wondering if it was all just a dream and Stalin didn't really stop the Red Army at the Elbe.
Sound overblown? Maybe -- this was Team Tinkoff, a marginally Italian squad, a year ago. But if you were around for Team 7-Eleven back in the day, you'll recogize the significance of gaining a team foothold on the peloton. And if you ever watched the Coors Classic roll by, well, this is what we'll be seeing, Russian style, in May. Not the apex of the sport, and certainly not the best team, but the Russians are officially invited to the party now.
Attributes: Closing speed. Robbie McEwen is on board now to see if he can still finish some races, which he continued to do in 2008, at least when Cavendish wasn't around. McEwen's five wins this year included the Vattenfalls and Paris-Brussels classics, as well as stage race wins in Switzerland over Oscar Freire and Daniele Bennati. At Katyusha he can count on nice leadouts from -- or sharing the spoils with -- Gert Steegmans. Danilo Napolitano heads up the B Team, and Kenny Dehaes has already flashed his speed at the top level, winning a Belgian Tour stage and notching an impressive fifth at Gent-Wevelgem.
Problems: Stage races. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Evgeni Petrov their leader in the Tour de France? Or Shaggy Vlad Karpets? Or Christian Pfannberger? Maybe all of the above will make for an interesting team here and there, challenging in some stages. But joining the big time means investing an awful lot of money in the Grand Tours, so presumably in a year or two Katyusha will start looking for some results.
Key Rider: Filippo Pozzato. Or maybe Pfannberger. The team's best chance at a huge result, early on in their incarnation, probably comes from Pippo's spring campaign. I've mentioned too many times how well I thought he was riding last March and April, losing Milano-Sanremo to Cancellara's headlong dash and Paris-Roubaix to a series of flat tires, while riding strongly at de Ronde. Where some see a guy who should win more, I see a rider who's solidly in position to win, waiting for his luck to turn a bit. And while it's tempting to picture the new squad out of its element in its first campaign, Pippo might not be so alone, particularly if Vlad Gusev comes on board. Pfannberger pulled the rare triple top-ten at the Ardennes classics, but it was somewhat out of nowhere at age 29, so let's not get too worked up.
Key Moment(s): Sochi Tour. I dissed their grand tour hopes, but guys like Karpets and Petrov have enough class for a middlin' one-week race. Add in their sprint team, along with guys like Pippo and time trial stud Mikhail Ignatiev, and you could see them making a huge impact on the inaugural Sochi event. Doesn't hurt that almost every able body will be in Italy then.
Passing Thought: What does it take to gel as a team? In some American sports, where teams are occasionally created from whole cloth, it's usually a few years of abject misery before they can stick their head above water. Cycling is a lot more fluid, and in fact eleven of these guys were teammates last year. The sprint team could probably get their timing down in a matter of a couple months. Nobody will be marking them in any extraordinary way, meaning the classics squad will call on a small handful of guys to engage in some teamwork. It's not that dramatic. A bigger issue is that as much as half the roster will be new to the big races of the Pro Tour, but then you don't have to start all 27 guys in Compiegne.
I know little about the inner workings of the team, but it seems to me that's where the key lies. Look at T-Mobile/High Road/Columbia: their turnover from the Pevenage years to the Stapleton takeover involved a similar stripping of the roster. What emerged was... more of the same, for a season. But by season two, the roster gelled, the team bought into the plan, and they won an astounding 85 races and the world's number one ranking. You can't possibly compare the talent level in the two teams -- Columbia is frickin loaded -- but the general trajectory sounds about right: one year figuring it all out, and if the plan is a good one and the guys know how to stick to it, by 2010 those Katyusha millions may well start making a difference in the sport.
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I'm pretty excited to see them race...
Rumour say’s – They are coming to Gold coast week before going to Adelaide for TDU, Yahooo.. Might go check out Gold Coast and get a better look at Gert and Kenny, oh yeah and my littleaussie robbie…
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
Oh yes, you must go and do some preliminary investigations for us.
Are you far from the Gold Coast? My Aussie geography is sketchy….same state though?
Yes,
Gold Coast is about an hours drive from Brisbane, both are in Queensland…
But an hours drive would be nothing to go and do some prelim investigations ;-) I’ll just have to get a bit more info from my source ;-)
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
Will anyone even notice Katusycha during Sochi?
eh, I think not, I’ll be watching this little ol race in Italy that I heard was moderately exciting. If I weren’t watching that I would be watching Volta Catalyuna, happens to be the third oldest race in the world. What I’m saying is that it has a shitty place in the calender for a PT event. And now the PT teams competing in the Giro will have to send riders to three different events at once? Sounds brutal and completely unfair. Now they have to sacrifice some of their riders and send them to an event that has never proven it can be a big time event(has been a 2.2 event up to now) and is probably completely irrelevant to all other PT teams, at least for next year. Why exactly is the Tour of Sochi suddenly a PT event anyway?
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Why is Sochi a PT event?
$$$$$$$$$
And cycling needs $$$$$$$$$
I can imagine Sochi taking most of the mojo that Catalunya used to have.
Yes cycling needs money, but isn't there a more profitable place to put a race?
I mean, who seriously would complain if Italy would get a PT event. Just because Russia is huge doesn’t mean that it will bring in more loot than another country. I’ll give it some years though, if it works than I hope they put it in another place on the calender so people will notice it. Also, I believe the Giro is getting bigger and bigger so many riders will be there in the end of May. Most that aren’t racing the Giro will take May off and then prep for the Tour in June. Seeing that Spaniards win 80% of cycling events these days, and they will be choosing Catalyuna over Sochi, I still believe Catalyuna will stay the bigger event. But neither event will thrive were it’s at right now. I don’t know how the weather would be in Sochi at the end of August, but that would be a better slot, after the Tour of Poland were the D-Tour was supposed to be.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
I'd never even heard of this Sochi place until I went to the Olympic Museum in Lausanne.
Apparently they’re bidding to host the Winter Olympics in 2014 even though they have absolutely no adequate facilities. The Russian government are pouring some vast sum of money into building some, in a project apparently more daunting than anything ever undertaken in an Olympic bid. Are they trying to promote this place as some Russian sporting mecca?! Perhaps they’re trying out their organisational skills in a little bike race nobody really cares about. As for the weather, it seems Sochi can get fairly warm in August; the average temperature is 27.1C and the all time high is 38.5C.
They aren't just bidding, they got the Olympics in 2014
good chance Putin had something to do with that. A little bit of intimidation on the IOC and boom, your tiny little city that no one knows about has become the host city for the Winter Olympics. Anyway the weather seems nice in August, so that might be a good place to put it, or they move the Volta Catalyuna to August, would be a good Vuelta warm up.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Ah, now I see they got it in 2007....
I should do more research ;-) This is all they have at the moment it seems. A most odd choice. Salzburg would have been the safe option….but I for one wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of the FSB!
global warming may have played into the decision?
A lot of the classic resorts no longer reliably have the snow they should. You’d think Feb. would be safe, but maybe not. I suppose it’s cheaper to build new infrastructure, including artificial snow (as needed) in Russia.
Hm…Austria was also having some high profile anti-foreigner actions (shall we say) and they had Haider at the time; probably lost some “welcoming to all” points, there. (Is this still considered politics, now that he’s dead?)
No reason Shaggy shouldn't cover them in the GT's
He has won the White jersey in the Tour. Last year he won the T o Suisse and more so the quality is there. He was unimpressive in 2008 but you have to figure in some lacking motivation on CdE as he was always going to be third in line there. He had to do a Giro that was obviously not suited to his qualities.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is re-ignited in 2009 as the No 1 man on Katyusha. Both the Giro and Tour parcours look better suited to him than the 2008 editions did.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
People have put their faith in Karpets and gotten burned for too long. He’s a strange rider in the sense that he’s an above average time trialist and climber but no where near the top riders at those respective disciplines either. Consequently, a lot of top ten finishes at best. Add in the fact that he’s hopeless when it comes to the one day classics and you have a pretty limited rider. For me, he’s a poor man’s Abraham Olano, not bad, but not the type of rider you want to build your team around for the grand tours either.
I think they got to give him a shot.
A year ago nobody thought Christian VandeVelde was a leader and it did take him a while to adjust to the role but he never was a team leader so we didn’t know just what he was capable of. So let’s see how he adjusts, maybe a Russian team will make him feel like he’s got a little extra juice ( naturally occurring juice that is ).
Speed on the descent can easily be lost when you slam into a tree.
Well, almost nobody thought C was a leader.... :-P
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Some of knew he had it in him though and "we've" believed for a long time.
We just needed him to start believing it too. And look how sweet it’s been since he did! Go C! :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Welcome Fernando
I tend to agree with you that Karpets is above average at everything but not really great at anything (much like my favourite Lövkvist) and thus probably won’t be getting those huge results. But I wonder how much “faith” has really been put in him at Illes Baleares/CdE? With the arrival of Valverde everyone else ended up as supporting cast, pretty much. Menchov moved on promptly and I wonder if Karpets wouldn’t have developed more if he had done the same?
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
Hey Jens and flying dog
Hey guys, it’s sweet to find a website with as many knowledgeable cycling fans as this one. To tell you the truth I can’t believe it took me this long to find it, better late than never I say.
You both make some good points. I would never have imagined that VandeVelde could reach the top 5 in the Tour but that’s exactly what he accomplished last year. Also, Caisse d whatever does seem to be a bit Valverde centric, so perhaps Karpets will feel somewhat liberated riding on a Russian based team with no obvious leader for the Grand Tours. Perhaps he’ll fill that void. Can’t wait to find out.
Glad you stopped by and hope you stay for some dessert! :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
I see Karpets as a strong week-long tour contender.
The GTs tend to have too high and too many mountains for him, like Kirchen and Devolder.
But in his defense, in the 07 Giro, he claimed to have dropped too many kilos and lost some of his climbing power. So, it should be exciting to see.
by brunopitton on Dec 29, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
That’s part of what I was saying earlier, Devolder and Karpets are both good time trialists and they can climb as well, however, with Devolder you have a more versatile performer on the cobbles, someone who’s very capable of winning Flanders or Roubaix. Karpets, on the other hand, seems to only excel in race of 10 days or so, nothing more, nothing less. If I had my druthers, I’d choose Devolder for that simple reason.
How knows..
Maybe Pozzato is motivated to share his talent with the rest of the world.. First step.. Don’t spend so much time on your hair…
Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.
How nice is Pozzato,
and agree the hair cannot be messed with..
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
To find previous posts and more stuff online
Search “Kenny De Haes” as well as Dehaes. Seems to be written both ways, more often as two words. As cyclegirl has already noted […] he also has charm appeal.
Just another note
This is how Kenny DeHaes spells his name on F/Book… He is a very nice guy.. and looking forward to seeing him in Australia… YaY
Oh and more charm appeal

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
Gusev
The rumors were that he’d join this team, yet he is not on the roster?
Does he have such a bad reputation or did the sacking from Astana scare teams out?
murky stuff
I’m more inclined toward the rep issue, but Katyusha probably want to play nice after being invited into the PT.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
The Astana sacking made him poison
Otherwise, he would have found a team already. He is a great talent, that would have already been signed without the taint of suspected doping.
"I promised to start with Bweeg, but I just can't. Yet."
It sounds like there is some dark trauma in your past here? Why is Bweeg particularly hard to write about?
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
Tough to say
maybe it’s because I am too close to them. Or that they’re kind of boring.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
So we can expect the Milram-preview in September then?
Bweeg signed Rolland this year so there could be some excitement. A french climber, not too many of those.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
Hey! if you haven't noticed yet
my last Deutsche Mannschaft signed some of the best German talent from Gerolsteiner and are much more of a complete team next year. Sure they are still far behind the major powerhouses like Saxo but I believe they have moved ahead of the French teams.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Still dull though (?)
Unless they really do show up in their moo-ch anticipated “special kit”.
They have a ways to go before they are rid of the blandness that has been their trademark.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
Well they aren't thrilling, but they are more exciting then others
unlike the last years. But the moo kits are going to make things a lot more fun, actually just for being bold(dumb) enough to ride as cows they should be the most exciting team next year. The kits are such a scare tactic btw, who isn’t scared of a cow on a bike? All riders are just going to move out of the way and let the crazed cows of the peloton win everything, yes that’s what will happen all right.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
Wow. If we can have this much already with a dull team like Milram
it’s going to be one hell of an entertaining season all around. I can’t wait.
Has the Tour Down Under started yet?
How about now?
Google is my domestique.
No Damn it
But there starting to come down under soon,
Katusha to Gold Coast, lotto and sexybank leaving around the 12/13 Jan…
Bring it on… Lance in Hawai training getting ready for his trip down..
Oh and most important, i’m getting there on the 20th, not the start but hey at least i’m there..
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
getting interesting
I think I posted about that a couple months ago. They’re verging on “watchable”
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
This month's Cycle Sport has asked riders for their New Year's resolutions.....
In Katyusha related resolutions:
Pozzato: “To stop complaining when I don’t win. Hopefully I’ll win enough that I won’t have anything to complain about”.
Brian Holm thinks somebody’s resolution should be to ban for two weeks anyone dressed like “Christmas Tree Pozzato”. Ouch.

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