Spotlight '08: LeakyGaz
Italian giants Liquigas were briefly one of my favorite teams, but for the wrong reasons (DiLuca). In my Back Pocket Preview I called them a team in flux. 'Twas true, and for the obvious reasons, but while the captaincy became a hot potato, the second team made some important strides. As usual, for accountability purposes, the stuff in italics is what I wrote in March.
Attributes: Liquigas have a reasonably well-rounded squad that (gasp!) sometimes does well outside Italy. For an Italian team they're pretty aggressive in their spring approach. Signing Bennati was a great diversion from the DiLuca hangover.
On Further Review: Bennati was supposed to kinda sorta replace Danilo DiLuca -- not in like kind, of course, but a green jersey in July would make cutting ties with the reigning Giro champion go down easy. Thanks to illness and a nagging achilles, it never quite worked out, and Bennati's season was a tad quiet as a result: no spring results at all, no Tour. He did win the maglia ciclamena at the Giro, but for Liquigas' investment, it wasn't enough. One silver lining: Benna and Mark Cavendish went head-to-head eight times in 2008, with Benna ahead in five of them, including four wins to Cav's two. Much as people want to crown Cav the undisputed sprint king, I'd argue it's not settled yet. Bennati is still very fast.
The other big story was Roman Kreuziger. While Franco Pellizotti filled in admirably as the GC guy, it was the dazzling potential displayed by the 22-year-old Kreuziger that was worth some real attention. The young Czech won the Tour de Suisse with some flair in the form of a stage win at the fearsome Klausenpass. He then rode to 12th at the Tour de France, consistently placing with the top climbers over all three weeks. Obviously Basso comes in now as the GC guy, but that can only help Kreuziger, shielding him from pressure and giving him a top level guy to emulate (on the bike, ahem!).
Problems: The DiLuca hangover. Kits. Turnover. Some sorting out to do as to how one existing expensive star (Pozzato) works constructively with another incoming expensive star (Bennati).
On Further Review: Pozzato and Bennati hardly ever raced together, and now Pippo is off to Russia, so "problem" solved. More of a problem this year was getting guys into position to win. Bennati, as mentioned, struggled to gain form, and Pozzato, while on form, struggled to make things happen. I'm sold on his ability, but things have a way of not happening for Pippo: Cancellara suddenly gallops away to steal an MSR win from him; his tires blow up seven times en route to Roubaix, etc. Of course, the classics have a way of making good people unexpectedly miserable, so perhaps this isn't so much Pippo's doing as just a typical run of luck. He might still win Flanders or Roubaix; I'm willing to bet he gets at least one. But this simply wasn't his year.
Key Rider(s): Vincenzo Nibali. He can climb and time-trial, and though he's a young 24, a breakout by the Sicilian would do wonders for a team that doesn't have much else to throw at the Giro GC.
On Further Review: Time trialing is nice, but Nibali's climbing isn't good enough for those time trials to matter. He's still very young and doing the Giro-Tour double was undoubtedly good experience, but Kreuziger stole the show from him this year. Not sure how Nibali gets any further with Leakygaz right now.
Key Moment: Champs Elysees, late July. Bennati's charge should certainly include a Green Jersey run, and if he can take on Boonen, it will be a three-week battle royale. Seriously, this could be one of the best competitions of the year.
On Further Review: Saddest story of the year was how the Tour suddenly didn't feature anything like a sprint showdown. Indeed, seeing Oscar Freire win an elusive points title only made it worse, given the lack of competition otherwise and the complete beatdown Cavendish had been giving him before going home. Freire is a good soldier and it's no shame to see him win, but he did so without style or drama. In hindsight I'd say Kreuziger on the Klausenpass was the clear highlight of the season for the calceazzuri boys.
Passing Thought: I suppose Bennati and Pozzato could get in each other's way, but a more realistic scenario is that it works rather well. First, I have zero info and no memory at the moment, but I doubt the 'Gaz signed Daniele without talking to Pippo first. Seems more likely that Pippo was all for it, maybe even recruiting. [Help here?] Either way, neither is enough of a force in the classics to overshadow the other, so even if they didn't mesh well, it still probably wouldn't be too hard to just go with whoever looks stronger on any given day.
On Further Review: Why exactly did Pozzato leave Liquigas? Am guessing it had to do with money first, but he also cited "leadership" as a reason. I don't totally get this: what leadership was he missing at Liquigas? Basso displaces him in some general sense, but surely Pippo doesn't have designs on any of the same races. Maybe he just felt overshadowed -- Basso's rumored signing was more newsworthy than anything Pippo was doing on the bike. The only other theory I can name is that Pippo likes to go stage-hunting in grand tours, something he might not get to do with a team organized around a clear captain. Anyway, it's Basso's team now, for good or ill. A Giro win and a steady stream of thoroughly unsuspicious blood values would do the team a world of good in 2009.
OK, back to surfing...
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I think you're giving Pippo too much credit.
Both his MSR and his Het Volk were won more for tactical reasons than anything else. He played Boonen for a sucker in HV and I doubt if he took a pull after the Poggio in MSR. He might be tactically astute, and he may be able to win a TdF stage at will, but I’m thinking he should win Paris-Roubaix or the Ronde before he gets any more love.
Never, ever, work with a sprinter.
by Put 'Em in the Gutter on
Dec 3, 2008 4:00 PM EST
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Oh Pippo gets my love.
Of the bike, Pippo get’s 100+ points, he is charming, hot and italian. He certainly was part of the reason my TdF tour experience this year is one that i will never forget. Mwuuaahh to you Pippo, that makes it 5 :-)
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 4:47 PM EST
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Er, I'm not sure that's the kind of love which he was talking about.....
…but point taken :-)
by Albertina on
Dec 3, 2008 6:03 PM EST
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We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 4:47 PM EST
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What if I went on a tennis site
and talked about how hot Justine Henin was (and she was)? It’s not fair! You guys are hilarious. Cheers
Never, ever, work with a sprinter.
by Put 'Em in the Gutter on
Dec 3, 2008 5:20 PM EST
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LOL, We not stopping you going onto a Justine Henin site..
fair is fair when it comes to our cyclists, haven’t you seen our Hottitude thread, or Rear of the year…
Btw – we haven’t chosen a winner for that
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 5:48 PM EST
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Tennis?
Who needs tennis when there is Vanderkitten?
It’s all fun anyway.
by jsallee00 on
Dec 3, 2008 7:13 PM EST
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Have to agree the VK girls are far better then tennis..
Oh and i’m still waiting for my VK jersey.. can’t wait to get it..
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:23 PM EST
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heh
I think Pozzato wanted more money. But he couldn’t just come out and say it.
Wait…
This thread has been up for like 5 hours and there is not a single photo of Benna in it? Sheesh. Slackerz.
by gavia on
Dec 3, 2008 8:08 PM EST
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Well thanks to some"one", some of us have been drooling over some surfer guy.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 8:18 PM EST
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CN says
that Pellizotti and Basso will be co-captains at the Giro, yeah sure they are, also Pellizotti will race the Tour along Kreuziger and Nibali.
(link)
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 8:20 PM EST
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Pellizotti-Basso
Those two dudes are apparently good friends. So I actually think they’ll ride okay together. It’s a nice gesture to give Pellizotti co-captainage, but I think even he knows what’s what with that. It’d be cool to see him get a stage win somewhere along the line. He’s a good rider, though not a grand tour winner.
by gavia on
Dec 3, 2008 8:33 PM EST
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Not saying they can't get along
but I think we all know who is going to be the real leader at the Giro
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 8:35 PM EST
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Don't forget
Szmyd. This is a grand tour team. Might bust out a solid TTT while they’re at it.
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by Chris... on
Dec 3, 2008 8:55 PM EST
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Yeah they are
they are probably third behind Astana and CdE. But they might be better than Caisse, Astana is still tops though. Szmyd might get to be captain at the Vuelta, they need someone to be leader there.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 8:59 PM EST
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Vuelta
And they can send the furriner, so they don’t have to pretend that Italians are interested in the Vuelta.
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by Chris... on
Dec 3, 2008 9:01 PM EST
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They did send Pozzato and Benna this year
crap, I just mentioned Benna again, here come more pics.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 9:06 PM EST
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You poor thing.
I’ll hold off more until at least tomorrow. But no promises for the others. LOL!
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 9:10 PM EST
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Spanish ladies
demanded no less. But that was just worlds training anyway. Of course, I suppose this year will be too.
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by Chris... on
Dec 3, 2008 9:19 PM EST
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Almost forgot
they got Zaugg as well, yeah they’re loaded
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 9:20 PM EST
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Benna + Basso + Quinziato +...
does this make Liquigas the best looking PT team?
by lyne on
Dec 3, 2008 8:22 PM EST
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lol
I believe a poll may be necessary to establish this.
by gavia on
Dec 3, 2008 8:24 PM EST
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I'm thinking a side by side smackdown
leaky vs caisse
by lyne on
Dec 3, 2008 8:25 PM EST
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i think there are other teams that should be considered if we are polling
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:26 PM EST
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so we might need elimination rounds to lead up to the final
by lyne on
Dec 3, 2008 8:28 PM EST
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Great idea...
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:28 PM EST
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lol, another dude smack down?
this could totally be arranged.
i think we need a thread to start narrowing the field and coming up with some match-ups.
by gavia on
Dec 3, 2008 8:29 PM EST
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I'm so getting my team list together
Even though boss is looking funny at my computer.. hehehe
we need to make sure there are time periods, so all can participate
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:34 PM EST
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A poll with photos :-)
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:25 PM EST
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Now "that" is one sweet idea!
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 8:27 PM EST
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Do it do it do it!
The best idea of the off season.
by Albertina on
Dec 4, 2008 6:08 AM EST
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Oh yeah.. I would have to give it a yes...
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:24 PM EST
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Why did I go to bed and miss all the fun you girls are having here?! Well I'm here now,
and for the record, I have given this much thought already throughout the season. Leaky win hands down IMHO although their suit has been weakened since the departure of Pippo.
by Albertina on
Dec 4, 2008 6:04 AM EST
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I've been thinking about it as well
But i think columbia, lotto and FdJ are up there to.. But i’m also looking at Katusha, Have you seen
Kenny DeHaes……. Hot Hot and he is such a nice guy, looking forward to catching up with him at TDU…
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 4, 2008 6:38 AM EST
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Well the unavoidable has happened
and this post has been hijacked by you hottitude freaks. Everyone should have seen this coming
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 8:30 PM EST
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I'm so giggling right now. You can't seem to get away from us today can you?
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 8:31 PM EST
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No, I really can't can I
that’s what I get for not having anything to do today :) really it’s a whole bunch of fun just seeing you girls go nuts every time Benna is mentioned
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 8:34 PM EST
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Well Phil did mention Benna....
Serious thanks Sui for the neverending drooling you have helped provide…

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 8:52 PM EST
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Oh Yeah, Oh Yeah... Gotto love Benna
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:54 PM EST
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I was afraid
when I saw 28 new comments, that something like this was going on.
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by Chris... on
Dec 3, 2008 8:56 PM EST
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LOL Chris... it just happens, it is an addiction..
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 8:57 PM EST
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Somehow we get to blame this one on Phil.
We can’t “always” take the blame.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 9:08 PM EST
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What!
I didn’t mention his name until after there were already a bunch of Benna posts up, FUCK!, I just said his name again.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 9:11 PM EST
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We need to have you bored during the day more often.
You truly can’t win as the more you try to get out of the blame, the more you get yourself in trouble. So fun this place is today…. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 9:29 PM EST
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I'm gonna warn you though
I have a Kohl picture ready to be unleashed if you keep blaming me for these sorts of things
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 9:32 PM EST
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Okay... that was enough. I'm giving in and stopping for a day or two to avoid that.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 3, 2008 10:12 PM EST
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hehe, thought that might do the trick
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 10:17 PM EST
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If i was at home, I have the perfect photo to put here...
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 3, 2008 9:23 PM EST
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And Albertina falls off her chair.....thud.
:-O~……..
by Albertina on
Dec 4, 2008 6:05 AM EST
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Ok this has to be one of the best shots of benna, yes the ladies have seen it before, but oh well bennna benna benna
Everytime i look at this i melt… Look at that Euro sexy italian look
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We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950
by CycleGirl on
Dec 4, 2008 6:46 AM EST
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So coooooool......and Albertina falls off her chair, again.
by Albertina on
Dec 4, 2008 7:36 AM EST
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At this point you might want to consider
if there is something fundamentally wrong with the chair.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
by Jens on
Dec 4, 2008 8:59 AM EST
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It's not the chair Jens...
I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with me either though. I’m a woman. What can I do?
by Albertina on
Dec 4, 2008 9:23 AM EST
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maybe she should just sit on the floor?
by gavia on
Dec 4, 2008 12:42 PM EST
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You know, that's a good plan.
Not sure what I’d tell my boss though. Sitting so high up causes me vertigo? Hmm, not sure that would wash somehow…..
by Albertina on
Dec 4, 2008 1:33 PM EST
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Just use the word labrynthitis.
Sitting on the floor really is a safe place to be.
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Dec 4, 2008 2:41 PM EST
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Such a good plan!
Nikki you are my saviour :-)
by Albertina on
Dec 4, 2008 3:58 PM EST
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I'm also curious to see what Nibali & kreuzinger will do next year
by lyne on
Dec 3, 2008 8:36 PM EST
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I'm excited to see what kreuziger will do next year too
will be great seeing him, Gesink, and Andy go for the white jersey next year, hell…that could be the best competition in the Tour next year. I’m not so sure about Nibali, he finished 17 minutes behind Andy in the white comp this year, I agree with Chris, his climbing aint good enough for GT’s yet.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 8:57 PM EST
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I'll with-hold on Nibali
until I see him ride without having to double. It might be a revelation. Of good things. Or, Total Doom.
by gavia on
Dec 3, 2008 9:22 PM EST
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Hold it!
Gesink’s riding the Tour next year? Who says?
"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it."- H. L. Mencken
by ursula on
Dec 3, 2008 10:07 PM EST
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It was an assumption
because IMO Rabo would be insane to not ride him. He needs that experience and he would be a huge help to Menchov.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 10:16 PM EST
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He better
crikey, why wait any longer? Gotta figure his first Boucle is all learning anyway.
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by Chris... on
Dec 3, 2008 11:20 PM EST
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You'd think they would want the best Dutch GT hope on their team
to get that experience so he can get them and the country a Tour win in a few years. But I don’t trust Rabo to think logically, they will probably pull some “will hurt us in the TTT” shit.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on
Dec 3, 2008 11:27 PM EST
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Has Gesink's descending improved?
It was a bit rocky this year at times. If so, sure, throw him at the Tour!
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Dec 8, 2008 4:27 AM EST
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