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Califørnia Rundt Stage 5: Solvang ITT... LIVE!

Farrar_and_cafe_tiny by Chris Fontecchio on in News

Time to determine who's going to win this race. Naturally, the start order is the reverse of the current GC, but I can't find start times. I'm sure they'll show up soon. And the course, a manageable 24km, should yield winning times in the half-hour range. So take the start time of, oh, let's say Victor Hugo Pena (lying 10th on GC) and Leipheimer's start time plus a half hour, and that's your viewing schedule.

Weather's apparently going to be more of the same, though for a short ride it shouldn't bother people nearly as much. It's an out-and-back course, so theoretically the headwinds and tailwinds will balance out, though it's mostly north-south which means constant crosswinds. So maybe 40 minutes is more like it... Anyway, enjoy!

Update [2008-2-22 11:59:45 by chris]: h/t Scott, from Slipstream comes a downloadable start list!

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They're going to have
better weather than we are (Boston). Currently snowing with 9" expected. And yesterday the roads were a lovely shade of bone dry. I'm starting to get tired of the trainer.

Upside - think we can hit 1000 comments for the Het Volk thread? I say yes.

Yes we can! Yes we can!

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Feb 22, 2008 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

Times
last off = Leipheimer - 13hr53
2 mins between the last 10, 1 min rest

by lucybears on Feb 22, 2008 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Of course
if the weather's like yesterday, a fall could well decide the entire ToC this year, sort of like Ullrich's fall in 2003 basically eliminated any shot he had of catching Lance that year in the TdF...

by Le Comte on Feb 22, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

That spelling of California
makes it sound like something Inspector Closeau would say.

by Jens on Feb 22, 2008 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah
my ability to Danish-up an English/Spanish word is pretty marginal. But as they say in Kobnhavn, Uff da!

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone want a downloadable startlist?
Slipstream has really done a nice job with their new website. They've offered a startlist in pdf format here: time trial start list

by Scott. on Feb 22, 2008 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Here's a really trivial question
that I hope somebody here can answer because it's been bugging me.  Can you remove leg warmers during a stage?  Can you put them on?  

Also, why do some of the pros wear their leg warmers capri-length, leaving their shins exposed?

And why was Rollin not wearing any at all??  

by NE Observer on Feb 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Yes.
Removing leg or knee warmers can be done on the bike. It's not easy, and I wouldn't recommend it for the uninitiated.

Leg warmers are typically ankle length and knee warmers usually go a few inches below the knee. Leg warmers also usually have a zipper to open the bottom for ease of entry/exit. Which you use is a matter of personal choice. I like knees because I'm really just interested in keeping the knee joint warm. The lower leg doesn't seem to present any issues, for me.

by johnw on Feb 22, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

depends
knee warmers come off easily, leg warmers depend on the opening.  The challenge, of course, is getting them over your shoes.

Most pros (with the very notable exception of David Moncoutie) can change all articles of clothing while riding.  There's great footage of Paolo Bettini in the Zuri Metzgete a couple years ago peeling off the leg warmers and vest before attacking.

As who wears what and when, that's personal preference and ability to handle cold--which varies widely.  Remember, Jackson Stewart wound up in the hospital with hypothermia yesterday.  Cold and wet sucks.

by R Mc on Feb 22, 2008 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you, johnw & R Mc!
I certainly won't try it.

And as your reward, here is a link (from cycling fans anonymous yesterday) to a truly amazing tale from two stages back -- Bobby Julich commandeering a rear wheel from a bystander in the middle of the stage.

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1678871;page=1;mh=-1;;sb=post_latest_r eply;so=ASC

by NE Observer on Feb 22, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

that link
is totally worth checking out, and following down the thread for pics and course marshal's input.

by Sui Juris on Feb 22, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Great story
I wonder what sort of goodies CSC will send the guy?

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Also
If you have your legs slathered up with hot balm you don't really need more than the knee warmers. And sometimes not even those (with enough balm).

Personally I love the stuff. The less layers I have to ride with the better.

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Feb 22, 2008 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

is this for real?
TOUR TRACKER:
Sorry! The Tour Tracker servers are at their maximum of 100,000 viewers! Try again later?

There must be some kind of mistake.

by King of Doping on Feb 22, 2008 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

ouch!
I've just realised that there's still one hour to go

by King of Doping on Feb 22, 2008 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

OK for me
I just jumped on to make sure I got a spot, if there is a limit. Still just over 30 minutes to go.

by johnw on Feb 22, 2008 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like the Cycling.tv servers
minus 2 zeroes.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Feb 22, 2008 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Radar
Radar doesn't look good, though. The chance of rain decreases as the day goes on, so hopefully it will stay clear.

by johnw on Feb 22, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Peloton shrinkage
Only 105 riders left in the peloton. That is a pretty brutal attrition rate for a one week stage race. Bad that stomach virus combined with not atypical rainy February weather makes for a tough week on the bike.

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

cycling.tv has pre-game
broadcast from high atop cycling.tv world head quarters.
-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Huh
What's with the bobbleheads? Nobody on the course yet?

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

First rider @
12:00P.S.T.
"The ox is slow but the earth is patient."

by Teel 22 on Feb 22, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

nice jersey design
on that bmc rider.  that's the kom, right?
nydam, if my addled brain is still working.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

gotta say
not hot

the rock racing across the ass makes them look extra wide

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

creed
looks like he's got the mother of all saddle sores

moving all over the place

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

7 hours in the rain
must take some toll on the bum.
-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

yum, wet lycra
chafe, chafe, chafe

very pretty out there today

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

yet areas
uneven weather for the TT

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

some of those clouds look pretty menacing
I was more noticing how green and rolly the hills look

I'd guess it rains some before we're done here

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

this looks like home
Rolling hills, cracked roads, fences. Well, it will look like that in about 2 months.
-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

awesome roads
There's really fab roads around Solvang.  Great riding.

The wine doesn't suck either :-P

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

CA bikes
Not tricked out TT rigs.
-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

Go Timmy!
TJ laughing at something during the start

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

Go Tim!
He looked pretty happy on the ramp...

by Ron... on Feb 22, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Mario's Up!
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

lion king
waving and grinning

I wonder just how many of these he's ridden in his career...

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

creed
definitely not enjoying himself

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

Jackson Stewart interview
Now on Tourtracker. There are women juniors in Belgium who would eat him for lunch.

by Monty. on Feb 22, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

LOL, ouch ;-)
That's probably one of the longest days he's ever spent racing.  Dude was out there in shorts and jersey.  A few more clothes in the rain and wind would probably be the wise choice, at least until the closing k's.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Petite Tommy
sighting
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

tiny tommy
So leetle.  He looked very stoked with the proceedings ;-)  Like that guy, hope he wins something this year.  Didn't he take Plouay last year, or did I dream that?

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year
or the one before.  Yeah, I like him too.  He was rode great that year in the yellow jersey.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep
One of the better Tour stories, I thought.  Lots of heart on that guy.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And to go with Wiggins starting
The commentary seems to be turning into Test Match Special. Wait for the chocolate cakes to start arriving.

by Monty. on Feb 22, 2008 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

For the non-English non-cricketers
A very odd tradition developed whereby local women would turn up at the door of the radio commentary box during test matches (5 day competitions) bringing home made cakes. The commentators would slowly work their way through these over the course of the day and give their verdicts. Always in a terribly polite way.

by Monty. on Feb 22, 2008 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL
Very funny :-)

I wouldn't mind a chocolate cake about now...

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Wiggins passed Pate
but Pate trying to stay with him (according to CN, who have a reporter in a car behind Wiggins).

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

Timmy at the finish
By the way, who has fastest time right now?

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

split time
Wiggins ahead by 22 sec at the split (from CN)

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

Salut..
..Everyone. Tropical weather today hu...

by Celestin on Feb 22, 2008 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

at least
It's not raining yet ;-)

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm...
Frankie thinks Pate is next to finish - too bad they don't seem to have any footage of Wiggins' ride...

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Cavendish
So he should be pretty good at these things, am I right? I mean, he's a sprinter, but more of a power guy almost to the classics level?

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Hmm...
I'd expect Ciolek to be the better of the two at this sort of thing.  Cav is all bounce, big acceleration.  

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

So
am I to understand that it's getting windy?

Wiggy notches top time, 32.15. If they're right about the wind, this could be a winning time.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

banners are really flapping now
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yep
Pate just came through.  Little smile there at the finish.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

Crowd loves Jens!
lots of waves from the start gate

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like it
The trees and flags are moving around quite a bit now.  

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Please go vote for your favorite
ATOC Team Kit on my latest diary entry.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions  

Fashion contest!
I keep threatening to do this. I'll promote it.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Some nice roads..
They should lock the camera guys with a broom though.

by Celestin on Feb 22, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Brajko should
be a good indicator on Wiggins time and the effect of the wind.

by Celestin on Feb 22, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

amazing roads
I like the part where the camera guy just points the thing at the pavement.  Uh, yeah, we all know what pavement looks like.  

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

This Zirbell
guy smoked Wiggins by more than 20 secondes in the secong part of the stage. Is the wind from behind on the way back?

by Celestin on Feb 22, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

wunderground
WSW at 18 km/hr.  

Cloudy, 57.  They're also saying heavy downpours possible, including hail?!

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

To the Seattleites
Does this road remind anyone else of the Green River ITT series?

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

Hink
not looking overly inspired around the corner. One thing I hate about windy ITTs is it's even harder than normal to gauge a performance. the 9-sq-inch screen isn't helping.

Gusev into second! 32.21

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

update from CN
Finish

1 Bradley Wiggins (High Road)                                  32.16
2 Vladimir Gusev (Astana)                                      32.22
3 Raivis Belohvosciks (Saunier Duval-Scott)                    32.45

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Bettini
apparently on the course. This is a rare moment for fans, when Bettini wears a normal kit and can't be identified from commercial jets.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

New leader!
Tom Zerbel?? Not sure of the spelling. 32.10

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

update from CN
Finish

1 Tom Zirbel (Bissell)                                         32.11
2 Bradley Wiggins (High Road)                                  32.16
3 Vladimir Gusev (Astana)                                      32.22

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Announcers
are consistently one second less than the results. Reminds me of the monty python skit in the department store...

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally
But I should be functional again by 2:20-ish.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And here we go!
VHPena on the road. It's top-ten time.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Dominique Rollin...?
anyone know where he finished...?

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

CN doesn't say
which makes me think he is well outside the top 10?

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

no
but they made comments about how tired he must be from yesterday... and I think he was passed by Zirbel (who started 2 min behind him).

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

One minute gap
They are just now getting to the two minute gap guys

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

yup... that's why
I was interested-- to see how well he recovered.

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Aren't you in Canada?
Surely CBC's running a live ticker somewhere.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

are you joking???
the only cycling CBC has carried in the last few years was stuff like the Commonwealth or Pan-Am Games, and I think they had highlights of the 2006 Worlds 2 weeks later ... :-(

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

uhh, yeah...
I'm in Canada but a live ticker on an American event...?

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

After yesterday
I figured it'd be national Dom Rollin day?

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Horner
...is just too cool for school.

by SWells on Feb 22, 2008 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

CVV off!
Horner now out there too. DaveZ about to launch!

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

How many
seconds per km is that brushy stache gonna cost him?

I don't believe this is the first jersey of distinction to show, IIRC Gusev is the Russian champ. ToC, props for assembling a pretty sick ITT field.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

D.Z.'s KIT
Do the stripes on Dave's TT Kit look orange to anybody besides me?

by SWells on Feb 22, 2008 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

DZ's Kit
Yes they are Orange ... wait until the Republicans find out about this. Those Slippies are with the terrorists!

by samboo on Feb 22, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

nice close-up of the 'stache
That's some very artistic facial hair there.

Perhaps there should be a prize for that?

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

CN has the top 10 intermediate times
which seems to be relatively well updated ... except you have to actually look at the list, they don't always mention in their ticker when something changes.  

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Zirbel
CN just posted this blurb...

"Zirbel did the Iron Horse the year before he turned pro on a heavy bike with gym shirts, a T-shirt and a windbreak tied around his waist. He broke away with Nydam, who tried unsuccessfully to drop him and he ended up winning..."

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

that's core
Iron Horse is no joke.

Go Z!!

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Positioning
that's the nicest aero position I've seen yet. Paolo Bettini has never had his back that straight in his life.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Z fits a bike super perfectlike
Dude was born for the time trial bike.  Perfectly proportioned.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Millar too
Looks like a frickin missile.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Millar's looking great
At least in that brief shot they gave us.

I could watch those two guys all day.

So, someone gona give us the time checks on the big boys?

Pretty solid wind, there.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Dave
was the only guy that Riis didn't put into the wind tunnel when he was with CSC. He said it would be a waste of time because Zabriskie's position was already perfect.
"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Feb 23, 2008 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Millar Up
There really should be a law against white skinsuits, shouldn't there?

Ugh.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Remember Danilo
Come the revolution, the pink skin suits are first up against the wall.

by Monty. on Feb 22, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Millar
Now that's what a nat'l champ tt kit should look like!

by samboo on Feb 22, 2008 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Dave's facial hair
from CN "Zabriskie told us today that his mustache came from a full beard and that he would like everyone to look at the decreased facial hair he has, as opposed to continuing to focus on the remaining 20% (the mustache). Just think how much faster he'll go without the full beard!"

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Rule Brittania!
Millar about to launch. Also, I think Camera 2 just hit a parked car.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

uhh no, Frankie
Brajkovic passed Julich not the other way around.

Brajkovic in the lead!

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Brajovick almost caught BJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whoa...
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Dayum
That's pretty fast for such a leetle dude

Here's Cance!

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

CA
Who was that Credit Ag. guy who just rocked it?

by SWells on Feb 22, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

update from CN
Finish

1 Janez Brajkovic (Astana)                                   32.05
2 Tom Zirbel (Bissell)                                       32.11
3 Bradley Wiggins (High Road)                                32.16

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

Tony Montana
in the starthouse. Is he growing a crap mustache too? I think someone started a rumor in the riders' hotel that Cali gals like cheesy mustaches.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Drag for Zirbel
But he should still place pretty high.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions  

Cance
So smooth.

Hope he wins this thingy.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Le Patron
rocking the 55x11. And I mean rocking.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Tony is rockin the big ring
wow! IMpressive
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Tony!
looks like he's giving everyone a clinic

by samboo on Feb 22, 2008 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Levi
Doesn't look like he should be able to TT his way out of paper sack.  Somehow, he gets it done, though.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

"PRAYING MANTIS POSITION"
Very different from my own "Puking Cricket" position.

by SWells on Feb 22, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

CN's split times
5 Janez Brajkovic (Astana)                      17.06
6 Kim Kirchen (High Road)                       17.08
7 Benjamin Jacques-Maynes (Bissell)             17.11

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Hink
just under 33'. Also: Kirchen was 32.15, dunno if anyone noticed.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Hey... show us some Z!
Levi's just not a pretty sight on the time trial bike.  

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

Tony about to catch
Gesink?
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

CVV 2nd at the split!
2 Christian Vandevelde (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)    0.04

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

serious wattage
in that big swiss ass.  yoix.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

wow!
Impressive stuff from Ben!

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

ZEEEEEE!!
16.55 at the split! Is that #1?

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

nope
Wiggins was faster, but guys have been making up huge time on the second half

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

New best split
Intermediate split (mile 7.6)

1 Gustav Larsson (Team CSC)                             16.41
2 Bradley Wiggins (High Road)                           16.43
3 Christian Vandevelde (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)    16.47
4 Vladimir Gusev (Astana)                               16.50
5 David Zabriskie (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)         16.56
6 Tom Zirbel (Bissell)                                  17.00
7 Jurgen Vandewalle (Quick Step)                        17.00
8 Raivis Belohvosciks (Saunier Duval-Scott)             17.05
9 Janez Brajkovic (Astana)                              17.06
10 Kim Kirchen (High Road)                              17.08

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

update from CN
Intermediate split (mile 7.6)

1 Gustav Larsson (Team CSC)                             16.41
2 Bradley Wiggins (High Road)                           16.43
3 Christian Vandevelde (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)    16.47
4 Vladimir Gusev (Astana)                               16.50
5 David Zabriskie (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)         16.56
6 Tom Zirbel (Bissell)                                  17.00
7 Jurgen Vandewalle (Quick Step)                        17.00
8 Raivis Belohvosciks (Saunier Duval-Scott)             17.05
9 Janez Brajkovic (Astana)                              17.06
10 Kim Kirchen (High Road)                              17.08

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

Millar pushing hard
not holding back at all.
-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Go Davey!
Can't wait to see Cance...

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

would be a huge result
for the slippies, if they can take this one

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Millar looks good
Might do something special today.
-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

i'm trying not to look
the rear wheel, i mean.  

Go Cance!

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Millar is flying!
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

:40 SECONDS OVER TONY!!!???
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Z from the air
So perfect.

Split for Cance yet?

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:10 PM EST reply actions  

could it be?
silva saying he overheard Towle announcing Millar has 40 seconds on Cance?

by guidemd on Feb 22, 2008 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

Rumors
Tony 40" down at the split?!?!

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

Wait
Towle is the source? Never mind.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahhhhh
That explains it.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Cance is banging away
hard to tell how fast he's going though.
-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

eat our words!
Leipheimer has a new best split time! 16'20. The Astana rider is on a mission. Cancellara comes through the check in 16'58, sixth fastest and quite a bit slower than Leipheimer.

by samboo on Feb 22, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

that doesn't sound right
40 seconds, really?

Maybe he got what everyone else has?

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

resistance is futile
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

sadly, yes.
I've been trying to prepare myself.  LOL, I just had such hopes after the Sierra Road stage.  Alas.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

update from CN
Finish

1 Christian Vandevelde (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)           31.32
2 Janez Brajkovic (Astana)                                     32.05
3 Tom Zirbel (Bissell)                                         32.11

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Wow
well, there you go.

You guys are consistently 2 mins ahead of the announcers.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Good to see Vande going well
Looks like the new team suits him :-)

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

update from CN
Finish

1 Christian Vandevelde (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)       31.32
2 David Zabriskie (Slipstream Chipotle p/b H30)             0.30
3 Janez Brajkovic (Astana)                                  0.34

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Tour tracker
Gotta love the little moving jersey logos below the video. Looks like the CSC jersey is closing in on the little Rabo one.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

LOL, so funny
Levi getting so little love, poor widdle dude.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Larsson
31.44. No video, thanks to the international anti-Swedish conspiracy.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

Larsson 2nd
He's a CSC rider, not Astana.

by BDBrian on Feb 22, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

slippy jersey
is dropping them all
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

"astana's gustav larsson"
"astana's gustav larsson"... Ugh.  C'mon guys.  Like four times in a row!!!

-Greg

by gregm on Feb 22, 2008 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

31:15
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Millar coming in...
He's digging deep, fighting the wind...

31.15!!!

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Yoix
Fast ride!  Good on Millar.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Tony moving well
let's see what he's got.

Hey! That little Slippy jersey was Millar, wasn't it? dang, respect to the Tour Tracker.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Split
8 Fabian Cancellara (Team CSC)                          0.37

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

That was pretty sweet!
Millar, I mean.

Just enjoying the moment, before the inevitable.  That's all ;-)

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch
You had to go and remind me, didn't you ;-)

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

gesink finishing
32.49.90

Not his thingy, the windy time trials.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Levi wants to prove
that he's not just using this race as training for Qinghai-lake.

by Jens on Feb 22, 2008 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

Cance
best time has already gone out... no way does he beat Levi today, since he needed 14 seconds to boot.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

Just curious?
Why the Levi hatred? Didn't he win fans when he attacked EPO Chicken for his teammate and then smoked the TT? Good guy, why is he so disliked among this crowd?

by samboo on Feb 22, 2008 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

hatred, too strong
Just not at all a fan of the guy.  Ugh.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

What Gavia said
this has been another edition... no really, he's OK but I just find a bunch of other guys more likeable and/or inspiring. I rooted for him at the Tour over Evans, but no way do I root for him over Cancellara.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!
Do I get royalties for that? ;-)

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Boring. Short. Chihuahuas.
"I am a quietly confident rider."  So ... lame.  

Nothing really wrong with him, he's just a non-alpha guy who's been cast as one.

by NE Observer on Feb 22, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone just won
I couldn't see who...
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

I like Levi
I signed his petition and bought me a Astana shirt at stage 1

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

no shirt, but me too.
i don't understand the haters. he seems harmless enough.

by Scott. on Feb 22, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Haters shmaters!
Come on guys, nobody's even being mean. Just rooting for others. What's the big deal?

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

LEVI
Leip-hammer!  Man, I was pulling for Millar.

by SWells on Feb 22, 2008 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Best rider
LL best rider

Astana best team

Others are also rans

by ursula on Feb 22, 2008 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

The win!
30.46 for Leipheimer. Just frickin smoked it today. Ladies and gents, boys and girls, the Tour of California is effectively over.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

Sour grapes
dessert of choice for PC losers today!

by ursula on Feb 22, 2008 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Levi
Money time trial.

Miller money too.

by ursula on Feb 22, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

why?
'cause he's not cool enough to ride for Mr 60%?

by samboo on Feb 22, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

Competing with Cattle
for dullest man likely to win a GT. Also sort of pathetic reaction to being shunned by the Tour. He's a grown man who's been around awhile, he didn't consider the possibility that would happen? It was 50/50 and everyone knew it but he chose Astana anyway, so live with it. Don't go asking tired fans for pity and support when you made your own bed. It's not like I hate the man I just don't sympathise with him. Also some of the coolest riders in this race have nothing to do with CSC.

by Jens on Feb 22, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!
Did he really call him the wee man?

That's cute ;-)

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, we can hope
LetLiveRide Ginghai Lake... amen...
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

So what's the podium thingy?
Who placed where?

I got all confoosed like there.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Levi
Best American rider.

by ursula on Feb 22, 2008 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

too bad...
he's so uninspiring!
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!

by DemonCats on Feb 22, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Provisional results

1 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Astana                                       30.47
2 David Millar (GBr) Slipstream Chipotle Presented by H30             0.29
3 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Slipstream Chipotle Presented by H30    0.45
4 Gustav Larsson (Swe) Team CSC                                       0.57
5 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Team CSC                                    1.05
6 David Zabriskie (USA) Slipstream Chipotle Presented by H30          1.15
7 Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Astana                                        1.19
8 Tom Zirbel (USA) Bissell Pro Cycling                                1.24
9 Benjamin Jacques-Maynes (USA) Bissell Pro Cycling                   1.25
10 Kim Kirchen (Lux) High Road                                        1.28

by orangekick on Feb 22, 2008 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

L, M, V
  1. Levi
  2. Millar
  3. Vandevelde
Hopefully Quickstep will attack Astana the next two days.

CSC?  Game over.

by ursula on Feb 22, 2008 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Levi
extends his GC lead out to 1.17 over Tony Montana. Game over folks. I'm still going to Pasadena though...

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

So...
Millar makes the podium in second on GC?  Did I do the math right?  Math, so not my thing.

And Vandevelde in third?

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Cancellara very bad
I mean, he was already losing 20 seconds at the top of the first climb which was very early. It was a very hilly time trial but this is disappointing because this probably means he can't win the time trial of the olympic games

by King of Doping on Feb 22, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn' t start panicking just yet
It's February and I'm pretty sure the Olympics are in August. Let's check back with him in July and see how he's coming along.

He certainly showed he can climb on Stage 3 so consider chalking up today to early season, big efforts earlier in the race, and possibly contributing factors (stomach flu).

"Only those who are in top condition can say that the Ronde is not hard. For everyone else, it's the Way of the Cross." -Andrea Tafi

by Drew on Feb 23, 2008 7:38 AM EST up reply actions  

So...
Millar @ :49
Vande @ 1.18
Larson @ 1.18
Cancellara @ 1.18
Z @ 1.35

Wait, am I totally on crack here or are all three of those guys tied on time?

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

Ah,
That's where I blew it, Vande at 1.08.

Larson and Cance are tied at fourth, though, I believe.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

Quick calc
1 Levi
2 Millar @ 0.49
3 VV @ 1.08
4 Canc @ 1.18
4 Larsson @1.18
6 Z? @1.36

by Monty. on Feb 22, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Make that
Slow calc. Tiem to sharpen up on the pencil

by Monty. on Feb 22, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL
But at least you got it right ;-)

Stage racing, so challenging.

by Jen See on Feb 22, 2008 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

GC
  1. Levi
  2. Millar at 0.49
  3. Vandevelde at 1.08

by Jimbo... on Feb 22, 2008 5:38 PM EST reply actions  

Good on CVV
Like the guy.

~

It's not Levi hate, it's just . . . eh.  You can't really find a real fault in the guy (maybe that's part of it?), but he's completely uninspiring.  Zero style.  And . . .eh.  (For an over-the-line mean, but completely hilarious explanation involving Levi's wife, check one of yesterday's diaries here.)

by Sui Juris on Feb 22, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I don't hate Levi
Just that he's so bland and maybe he's cursed by some LA hangover.  That he's following Johann around does not help.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Feb 22, 2008 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't hate Levi
I just didn't want him to win back-to-back.

But, have to give him his due. His attack with Gesink was pretty stylish.

-K-

by KevinK on Feb 22, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

HOLY COW
I'm second at the points competition of CYCLINGFEVER

http://toc2008.cyclingfever.com/puntencompetitie.html?_p=klassement

Not having Vandevelde and Larsson is going to ruin my team. Why the hell did I pick Danielson?

by King of Doping on Feb 22, 2008 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

#135
Comfortably mediocre myself. But I'm mopping the floor with Bethie.

by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 22, 2008 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

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