New Pedals?
Right before I blew out my ACL I was contemplating switching from my Speedplay Zeros to either Dura-Ace or Keos.
Now that I've had my ACL reconstructed using the patella tendon I wonder if I shouldn't stay on Speedplay. My rationale for switching from Speedplays to Shimanos or Looks was that I felt that I wasn't getting good power transfer on the Zeros. My concern now is float. Does anyone have experience riding on Shimanos or Looks with "bad" knees?
Less than three weeks after surgery I am on my trainer. I did 30 minutes this morning. I could stand for a few revolutions, but not much more. Still a fair bit of pain putting that much pressure on my knee.
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float...?
That said, I prefer pedals with no float because I have a tendency to hit my heals against the chain stays. I prefer to ride with my shoes loosened (crude methode to get float) during long easy rides only to tighten them later on when the pace is picked up during the end.
fwiw, I think there's more chance of hurting your knees with pedals with a large swing-- it would be like trying to balance your foot on the end of a pin while applying 1000 watts of power.
lack of stability...?
FWIW
In any event, maybe I'm understanding your characterization incorrectly, but if power transfer feels like it's an issue, I'd look at the shoe (particularly the sole flex) first.
poor description on my part
Whoa there:
They don't seem to hold cancellara back too much . . .
Agree w/s.j.: the shoe is a much more likely culprit in power transfer than the pedals.
(And, as an aside: why not try re-habbing on basic old platform pedals? Once I started paying attention to where I put my feet on my beater-bike, it lead to fairly drastic changes in my pedal-position on the race bike. Until your knee is stabilized and strong, it might be best not to lock it in too much. Even with float, if the pedal position locks you into a rotation that's not right for your knee, it's going to cause problems.)
It might be worth having a thorough bike-fit . . .
Speedplay X series
by Peter Fontecchio on Feb 10, 2008 8:17 AM EST reply actions
tough to clip out?
How hard is it to unclip with the knee pain?
Going tri-mode
Perhaps "power-transfer" was not the right phrase. Maybe a better description would be power distribution over the pedal area. I have a feeling that the power is concentrated on a small area and not distributed well. I'm wondering if a larger pedal surface area might lead to better feel.
As to pedals, I'm using Sidi 5.5s right now. Very firm.
surface area
Float is a matter of personal taste. For me, it makes tendon problems worse - I'm on the no float program. But that does mean that I spent a great deal of time dialing in the position. A badly positioned no float cleat can cause a lot of problems, too.
My usual rule with bike parts: if it works, don't change it.
tri mode
I'm with gavia on the float. I've experimented with speedplays, crank bros, and Look Keos. The speedplays actually make my knees sore. When I'm locked down in the Keos, I can ride for hours, and mash big gears without any pain.
I'm not sure that will continue to be the case, now that my knee is F'ed up.
I have heard
Regarding surface area, it's a non-factor if the soles are stiff enough.
Rode my Eggbeaters this morning on the road, and I would say the release is similar to the Speedplay's. Just buttery smooth. I did notice the small surface area under my feet, but I was using a pair of soft soled MTB shoes, so I was expecting it.
by Peter Fontecchio on Feb 10, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions
if you're using
Good tip.
by Peter Fontecchio on Feb 10, 2008 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Stick with Speedplay Zeros
As for float vs. fixed argument, the Zeros can be adjusted in such a way to completely eliminate all float, if need be. I'm no doctor, but common sense tells me that you should probably have a pedal system that would give you options either way.
Lastly, if you feel power transfer is an issue, I'd try a new shoe with a stiffer sole before switching pedal systems.
FWIW, I've tried a variety of fixed clipless systems over the past twenty years. I switched to the Zeros about six years ago in an attempt to resolve knee pain, which eventually went away by dialing in the cleat position.
Good luck on the rehab.
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New bike?
by Peter Fontecchio on Feb 13, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
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Score!
In time your wife will come to appreciate the finer points of the SSR.
by Drew on Feb 14, 2008 9:33 AM EST reply actions
Certainly
That is a very sweet frame.
by Peter Fontecchio on Feb 15, 2008 6:25 AM EST up reply actions
Don't listen to Van P
by Drew on Feb 15, 2008 8:35 AM EST reply actions
If you're a SRAM fan
by Peter Fontecchio on Feb 15, 2008 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Price
Ultegra 10 is a fine choice.
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