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Amstel Gold Race... LIVE!!

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Ardennes Week starts now! I'm pretty partial to the cobbles and all, but one thing you don't get in Flanders to the extent you get in the Ardennes are fantastic finishes. AGR isn't likely to be won on a long escape... maybe a sorta long escape, but more likely there'll still be plenty of drama left when they hit the Cauberg.

The official list of climbs is worth keeping track of if you can have a third window open. Cycling.TV kicks off at 5am Pacific, so sign in at 4:45. See you then!

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Even if
I'm not actually EGoat, I am consoled by the fact that I don't have to get up till 8am to watch AGR.  Much more civilized.

See y'all in the morning!  

It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 1:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Unfortantely
I think it's right. Sporza reports: Ricco is te honly rider how hasn't start. He has fever and stayed in Italy

by Frinking on Apr 20, 2008 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

And
if anyone here is still pining for the hardships of Paris-Roubaix, then watch out for coverage of today's other big race in France the Tro-Bro Leon in Brittany. More info at the official site, a truly horrendous place to visit where everything comes as jpg images four times the size of your screen. Finding the magnify button on your browser helps. The regional version of France 3 is a sponsor so there will be footage around.

by Monty. on Apr 20, 2008 6:06 AM EDT reply actions  

5 am?
Probably still an hour to go before CTV cranks it up.

by ursula on Apr 20, 2008 7:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I continue to be mathematically challenged
when it comes to simple subtraction for time zone purposes.  But I like to to think it's due to a combination of pre-race excitement and pre-race "Will cycling.tv work today?" angst....

by Cyclingrush on Apr 20, 2008 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meanwhile...
CN reports:

Break of: Kristof Vandewalle (Topsport Vlaanderen), Albert Timmer (Skil-Shimano) and Yuriy Krivtsov (AG2R La Mondiale)

Peloton at 11.34

by ursula on Apr 20, 2008 7:30 AM EDT reply actions  

2007 Amstel Showing?
Is that what you guys have with coverage right now?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Morning
By now I would've thought Rebecca would be on chatting away. I guess we'll know in the next 1/2 hour. :-)

Can I note this morning that skunks suck! Both my girls got nailed at 12:30 last night. Luckily not straight on so my tried and true recipe saved them quickly and the inside of my house but the odor outside still just reaks.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do hope you
are talking about your dogs.  :-)
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

tee hee
Yes, my girls are my dogs. :-)
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

drop me an email
And I'll send it over. I'm on my way out for a ride in a few but will get it to you. I've used it for the past few years and it does the job. Way better than the sick and nasty tomato bath people still thinks does anything other than provide a tomato skunked dog.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy
I'm happy that Paul thinks last year's race was good for Schumacher.  Great insight.

by ursula on Apr 20, 2008 7:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Paul is gutted
Hi Ursula,
You're so funny, do you have your own TV show?!

Looking forward to reading your insights into the racing over the next few hours

Lots of love

Paul

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha
and I thought that David Duffield was the only one who sulked when people criticised him.

by Monty. on Apr 20, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rebecca certainly didn't skip the bright red
lipstick this morning.

Which means...... I'm in!!!! Wooooo hooooooo!!!!

by Cyclingrush on Apr 20, 2008 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

"You're all tarted up..."
"... and you don't look the same."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKPKSK1nCKY
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 7:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Latest on CN
Current race situation
Kristof Vandewalle (Topsport Vlaanderen), Albert Timmer (Skil-Shimano) and Yuriy Krivtsov (AG2R La Mondiale)
Peloton at 7.34
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Good morning cycling fans!
It's on, cycling.tv 800 kbps looks good. They are showing the start now.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

logging in 15 minutes before the start seems to do
the trick.

No worries connecting, and here are Anthony and Brian and the cyclists.

Morning all.

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 8:04 AM EDT reply actions  

There
is also some sort of live coverage on the official site complete with GPS tracking of the riders. I tried it earlier but it never seemed to do anything for me, although that may be due to the paranoid settings I have on my browser.

by Monty. on Apr 20, 2008 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

You
are never paranoid if they are following you.

by ursula on Apr 20, 2008 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hemingway
In his final days, Hemingway's associates thought he was having paranoid delusions that the FBI was tapping his phone. Years later, of course, the FBI's records showed that they were tapping his phone.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

looked too
I looked at it just a bit ago and don't get anything either.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear
I'm not the only one. I got two big blank windows and an advert for Amstel.

by Monty. on Apr 20, 2008 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good morning all!
Hi,

Hope you're all logged in to the cycling tv footage and by the way the lipstick's pink not red!! :o)

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Cyclingrush
Got busted by Rebecca - how funny is that!?!?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rebecca
But what do you think about the Arctic Monkeys?
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

'Morning, all! Morning, Rebecca.
Nice, sunny day for racing in Holland today, looks great and c.tv coming in loud and clear!  Gap 7:40, w/about 106k to go.

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Morning Ruthann :-)
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are obviously a woman of fine taste.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got to love the narrow roads
of the Amstel Race. Just 4 riders wide right now shoulder to shoulder.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

double speak
on ctv will get annoying if it keeps going
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:27 AM EDT reply actions  

NEVERMIND
I'm an idiot, somehow a 2nd window popped up and it was delayed so I could hear them both. I need more coffee...
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

nikki...
...what problems are you experiencing with sound? What internet browser are you using? If you could let me know, we'll look in to it - thanks, Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

CTV has been great this morning
It's just me having way too many window open.  Maybe it's the skunk odor messing with me this am.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

WooHoo... I'm in...
Morning all... I don't know about y'all, but after my experience with de Ronde, this morning will consist of coffee and corn bread instead of beer and frites.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

c,tv is working great this morn
thx Rebecca
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Nikki...
glad you're in now, a good cup of coffee will sort you out!!! ;o)

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Millram sighting
Not too many of those this season.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Sweet with CTV
We get Rebecca and Paul joining us in our fun!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks Elvisgoat...
..who's your money on for today??

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Hard to know today
My VDS dream podium would be
Aerts
Haussler
Putsep

Not bloody likely you're saying I'm sure.

More realistically...

Cunego
Valverde
Dekker

America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you
For saying such as that is what I thought too.  Who was that.  Same sunglasses.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's Michael Barry.
Nice to see him at the front, too.  I wonder if he's going to get his chance at the Tour this year?  I know he's done the Giro a lot, and was even on Salvodelli's team in '05, but I'm sure he'd love to do the Tour.

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope so
I like him a lot. Not many can write like he does. :-)
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

CN not very good this morning
They've messed up on riders name a few times this morning. They even have Farrar racing this morning.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Since we can spare our wrath
that is usually directed at the now most excellent CTV.  We can turn on CN and give them hell about their coverage. ;- )
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maggy busting butt up climns
That's got a hurt a bit.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Breakaway is...
Krivstov, Skimmer, Vandevalla

????  I wasn't familiar with any of the names so probably butchered them

============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

close...
Kristof Vandewalle (Topsport Vlaanderen), Albert Timmer (Skil-Shimano) and Yuriy Krivtsov (AG2R La Mondiale)

by orangekick on Apr 20, 2008 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kristov, Timmer and Vanderwaller
Timmer also in the breakeway last wensday in de Scheldeprijs

by Frinking on Apr 20, 2008 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris / Drew
Are they both sleeping in this morning?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Maggy
Climbs have to hurt but man-o-man can that man descend. Watching him downhill always impresses me.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Nog 80km.
Gap 5:55.  11 climbs to go.  Very skinny, twisting roads, strining the peloton out into a long, long line.  Not too many Astanii sightings today.

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning all
Maggie looks like a freaking giant compared to the other riders... or maybe my coffee is too strong this morning...

by Jimbo... on Apr 20, 2008 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice jump by Ryder onto the front
of the peloton, from the bike path running parallel to the road.  Freaked out that Lampre rider a little bit!  Barry looks very serious up there.  HUGE crowds at the bottom of the Cauberg, Nog 75km.

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

there seems to be
a confluence of sidewalks and bicycle trails

by orangekick on Apr 20, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

looks fine here
Your ISP might be getting cranky and messing with you...

by Jimbo... on Apr 20, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

crashdan...
...what seems to be the problem and we'll look into it?

thanks,

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm seeing my 2 CSC hopes for the day
towards the front on the climb:  Frankie and Kolobnev, yes!

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Kilian Patour
I understand Maggy but not sure why Patour would drop.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in at CTV, almost no pain
and the breakfast panini of local free range eggs, local cheese, local micro greens and local prosciutto is on its way...for under $7.  And the sky is sprinkling gently on the daffodils.  A fine Pittsburgh Sunday.  
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

That's living there.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

"fine" and "Pittsburgh"
in the same sentence? that may be a first here at the podium... sounds lovely actually.

by Jimbo... on Apr 20, 2008 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey! That looks just like my house
I always watch cycling tv from the fifth story of the northwest tower. The wifi reception is better.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Hello everyone!
When they keep riding with a flat on a carbon wheel, don't they trash the wheel permanently?

by Jens on Apr 20, 2008 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

I hear you can
ride on a flat with the tubeless system.

by orangekick on Apr 20, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

depends
w/ tubulars, not as likely--if you hit a rock or pothole, the impact might crack the rim, but otherwise the dampening of the flat tire would probably soften the blows enough to keep it from being trashed.

by R Mc on Apr 20, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Going over the top of Geulhemmerweg...
Staf Schierlinckx towards the front of the peloton
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

High Road setting the pace
over the top of the climb. 72.8 km to go
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Barry looks strong
Mornin' Jens :-)

Fun to see Millar and Maaskant up in the front area.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Racing will start soon
last feed is behind them now.
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd enjoying doing that
versus handing the guys bottles or musettes. "That" would freak me out with the speeds they go. I'd fear I'd lose an arm or hang on too long and cause them to fall.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I tried handing out orange quarters
at the marathon once, and even that requires coordination...
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Peloton flies right through
the city center, traffic circles, road furniture, trees splitting the field left, right, and center.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

well, Anthony...Dutch TV
doesn't believe in captions because they can identify every top rider, at speed, like a giant horse race... CTV's getting there, too.
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

CdE, Gerol, Rabo near the front
JAF returns
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning, all/C.tv worked!
Long ride yesterday left me knackered and unable to rouse myself for an early log-in, but I just slipped right into the 1200kbps stream w/o a problem.  Color me cautiously pleased.

by Sui Juris on Apr 20, 2008 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

1200 all morning
and it's been great.  :-)
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

knackered here too
no amount of coffee will help me today.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

try skunk spray
Will wake you right up and then make you sick to your stomach.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

aerial shots
are awesome today
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Hanging out at the back
of a race like this must be a real killer, constant corners and regroupings. Ouch.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Yellow Line Rule
Commentary on that is amusing.  You can always tell the new American riders in a race, as they instinctively stay within the yellow lines . . .

by Sui Juris on Apr 20, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Gap at 3:10 now
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Windmill sighting! And all the fruit
trees are all in bloom, how beautiful.    
Sui, the race is just starting to heat up, so you have good timing!

I've seen a few Astanii now, but no glimpse of The Goose yet.  Barry is done, out the back.  Great job by him today, he was really cranking it out at the front this past half-hour, at least.

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC and Rabo
on the move
America is all about speed. Hot, nasty, badass speed. -Eleanor Roosevelt

by ELVISGOAT on Apr 20, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

CdE Setting the pace
up the climb. Quite crowded.

Attack! from CSC, covered by Flecha.

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Larsson goes
front reacts, Flecha
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Good morning everyone.
What's wrong with Ctv?  it was way too easy!!
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Aye he's angry
think he'll take out his frustrations on his team-mates in their home race?

That'd be something, refusing to help when Dekker flats.

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Camera men
can suck sometimes!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

My man
Krivstov out front--but for how long?
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

CTV giving me a timeline error, no broadcast...
Anyone have a live link they can paste?
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd suggest
bookmark a couple of log in pages (rename them CTVlogin1&2) and several different live viewer pages (as viewer 1, 2, 3...); then you  have them all at hand for shortcuts.
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

try
this.  It should require you to login and then take you straight to the stream, if I'm recalling things right.

by Sui Juris on Apr 20, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone said Maggie
dropped out?
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

He pulled out
About the last feed zone and looked like Patour pulled out too with him.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice descent
noone quite getting away though
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

crashdan
are you still having problems? if so try refreshing your browser and if the prob continues delete your cookies and temp internet files and see if that works...let us know...

thanks

Rebecca  

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Orangekick/ tourtracker
Amstel boast on their webpage that they will have a great tracker. I can't find it there though , give it a try.

by Jens on Apr 20, 2008 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Rabo all over the front
Flecha looking very concentrated. CSC marshalling at the front too.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC drilling it!
Flecha covering the break. 'Steiner in the move. Flecha frisky. Laarson going again.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

favorite's teams starting to get twitchy
I think it is time for me to stop multitasking and focus on the race.

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Small group off the front
There's Kolobnev! Flecha in the move.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

split--how'd that happen?
really more like beads on a string
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Finally starting
to get more exciting. Agree, time to stop several other windows going.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC attack!
rabo tankink on wheel
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

2:10
Break dropping quickly
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Larsson and Zberg and Tankink
this is an interesting set; Van Avermat comes up
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Tons of pressure on the front
of the race. Small group with a small gap. Lampre working to bring it back together... Field comes back together. CA launches a counter attack. Field chasing hard!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Repeated attacks by CSC
at the front, now with Larssen trying to go out the front.  Gap down to 2:20 or so.  Now Roche on the front, trying to get away.  Flecha brings him back.  Nog 53km for the breakaway.

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey all
logging in now... fingers crossed. Hope I missed the rush.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

52K to go
Still 3 up front.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Flecha brings it together
Then another attack! Tough race right now. EuEu rider attacks.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Andy
Setting up for Frank in a bit?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

1:45
Gap down again with 50K to go
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Another attack!
KAA goes for it. Small gap with a small group. Field chasing hard again.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Aarvesen
next attack  about 8 may get away
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

And I'm in!
Under two minutes. Looks like a truly lovely day in Holland.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Truce for now
The field settles down, Steiner setting the pace on the front.

KAA goes again!

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC
have a lot of cards to play, as usual.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Martijn
Still there.  Good on him!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC
They have a lot of good rider but only one real card to play- Schleck the elder

by ursula on Apr 20, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

He was my guess
for the day, less being watched, better chance.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rebecca... I'm only able to get a 92kbps feed...
No amount of refreshing, cookie clearing or clicking on "CONFIRM" seems to be changing it.  Speed just tested through at 1411kbps.  Any suggestions?
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Hi dan
firstly, apologies for the problems you're experiencing - forgive me if you've already tried this but can you tell me if you are geting the data rate options below the video player?

Thanks,

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...
I just closed IE completely, cleared all cookies and temp files again, re-opened, logged into CTV and still got the 92kbps feed.  Retested my connection, came through as 1109kbps, selected the 800kbps feed and still only get 92, using POP1 mms/rtsp
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dan
How are you getting on with clicking through the live race section??

Cheers, Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dan
Rather than clicking on settings, can you try clicking on the live events feed link and then selecting the data rate from those options elow the player?

Thanks,

Rebecca

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhhh! Under the Live Events section...
Those links weren't ever working on the previous races I've watched.  Selecting the 1200 feed link worked perfectly.  Much, Much improved.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for being tenacious in support...
I really do appreciate it ... a LOT!
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry...
...for my confusing response!!!! Are you all in now? :o)

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes... I'm in just fine...
and the 1200kbps feed is breathtaking.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

dan...
Excellent - thanks for bearing with me! Enjoy the rest of the race!

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Field settles down
after a brutal flurry of attacks. Lined shoulder to shoulder from curb to curb.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Poor Brian
Likely to get death-threats after slaughtering every name on the Barloworld team......

by Jens on Apr 20, 2008 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Jeepers
Okay the view watching them thread through those two things was freaky.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

soooo
where's the shit going down today? I'm kinda hoping things will start fracturing before the Kruisberg.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Good ol Ballan
I like a guy of his stature who takes pride in his secondary duties too.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Gerolsteiner keps things together knowing
that if the lead riders finish tegether that Rebellin will probably beat the likes of Schleck, Ballan, Cunego, etc.

by ursula on Apr 20, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Caption Comp
That photo is certainly worth a few joke lines today isn't it?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

'Steiner setting a high pace
Camera bike getting in the way again!
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

it's on!
They look very serious. Where's Rabo?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was a rabo/CSC battle
for a while, now they seem to be hanging out and recovering.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

csc attack predicted
they are riding twitchy on the right, and on the sidewalk, as more gerolsteiner comes up on the left
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

If by CSC
you mean Milram... well done!

Terpstra on the loose, nobody follows.  He means business. I have a future post loosely titled "what the hell has gotten into Dutch cycling lately?" brewing. They have a little Golden Generation shaping up.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Breakaway
Just about done.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

a csc and a rabo kicking it, presumably to join
and the camera cuts to the rear, then to terpstra
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Terpstra flew across the gap
to the three leaders. He'll probably leave them in the weeds. I don't think they have much to offer.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Frisky Nikki Terpstra! Good on him,
he's almost caught the front 3 already.  They're almost at the top of the Wolfberg.  Caught 'em, and now on the descent.  

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow... Nikki catching the break...
... and posting in Podium Cafe at the same time... that's talent!
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't blackberry's awesome?!?!
LOL!!!
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah... that break is total toast...
Oh... and, good morning Mr. Sun, good to see you peeking up over Inglewood this morning.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Millar
Still at the front on the right watching the reply of the attack?

That attack was smooth and impressive.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Crashdan
If you are still having trouble with ctv, you might be able to view one of the other live video feeds at

http://www.cyclingfans.com/

by Toyota on Apr 20, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Gesink
is a real Danger Man today

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Lesson learned
Don't bother bridging up to a breakaway of no-hopers.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Counter move by Gesink
Lotto rider. Field chasing behind.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Gruppo compacto now,
but G(H)esink, Gilbert, Aerts, go out the front.  Kirchen there, too?

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Was that Gesink?
He has that same emaciated quality as <:~
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

This is the move
good people peelong off thr front
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Peelong...
fighting... urge... to... make... foul... joke
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

New break
Gesink
Aerts
Kirchen
Astarloa (bout time!)
Gilbert

Serious Quality Up the road!

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Uh oh
bike race alert!

Gilbert, Gesink, Kirchen... who else?

Astarloa? Damn my eyes!

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

the 5 going full out
Aerts
Gesink
Kirchen
Gilbert
Astraloa (sp?)
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

5 riders off the front...
Gesink, Gilbert, Aerts, Kirchen, Astarloa
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

They toasted that climb
Doesn't look too steep but they were practically sprinting.

Kirchen... well rested....

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Peloton wakes up
THey're charging back now, let's see who's doing it. CSC didn't have a guy up there.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Back together
Cofidis shows up at the front. Rabo up front.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Live Tracker
This is where I tried earlier http://spectator.sport-track.com/spec/start.php?id=3081&raceid=4383 It still doesn't work here but then again, the www.amstelgoldrace.nl site is completely dead for me.

by Monty. on Apr 20, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Lloyd setting a new record
for most calories burned to least effect

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

He's got
a way to go before he catches my lifetime record though.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whizzing down the descent...
Is that "peelong off the front"?
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

My typos are better
than my intentional posts--how sad is that?
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

How come
we have people here who use handles like Koppenberg, Gavia, etc., but nobody's calling themselves Gulperberg?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

"to go"?
 maybe literally "another"? just guessing.

And a Bweeg hits the deck.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think
it's the same as the German noch, still, yet

by Monty. on Apr 20, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another crash
it appears that Bweeg is this year's Gerolsteiner. they may not have a man in every break, but they have a man in every crash.

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

CSC setting a high pace
KAA at the tip of the spear. Flecha sighting with the nose strip in place.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

rebellin quiet
Brian observes. Isn't that how it always is?

Arvesen pulling the race. Tricky little roads here, lots of little curbs.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Nog 30k.
I'm getting picture breakup, you?

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Yup
well, it isn't breaking up as much as freezing from time to time

by Koppenberg on Apr 20, 2008 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto
I'm at 1200, any better lower?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just dropped to 800
and it's working fine now.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

overdid it,
tired out, got passed.  Cifidis, lampre high road
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

9.8% climb
many riders blowing up at the back. It's been a long race.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Anthony
seems to be looking for reasons to say "whizzing." I wonder if he's doing it because Brian has had too much coffee but can't leave the booth?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Dekker looks good
but isn't it tradition for Rabo to screw up in this race?

by Jens on Apr 20, 2008 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

try switching down to 800kbs...
...let me know if that works more smoothly...

by Cycling TV on Apr 20, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

28k to go. I thought that maybe
Chavenel would go about now.  But it's a Barlo rider, trying to go.

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

800 won't load,
brief flash of picture at 1200, now I'm in at 400
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Completely lost feed
Had to set up new all over again and finally got 800 back and seems okay - for now.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

11th hour now
Three climbs in 6km, starting in a km or two.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Cataldo
on a flier. Wahlwiller, Kruisberg now...

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Have to say
this looks like a wonderful place to ride. Much as I love the Ronde, it's not quite as inviting, shall we say?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Kirchen
looks awfully good to me. He'd have to shake some serious sprinters, though after last week's display maybe he's a finisher too?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Is that
a road? Not sure the average American car could fit through.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Kirchen, Rodriguez,
on the front, Flecha out the back.  VanSummeren up there, Dekker, Frankie, Cunego.  Kitchen goes!

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Kirchen is movin'!
And a gap has formed.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Lined out on the descent
as they zip through a village.

Kirchen attacks! He really means business here. CSC and Rabo had better be careful with him. Van Summer Ale gamely hanging on to Kirchen. They've got about 50 meters or so.

On the Eyserbosweg!

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

JVS
WTF? Boy I really didn't see Van Summeren busting it open on a steep...

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Kroon in the pack of 15...
Valverde is in there too.
============= Daniel

by crashdan on Apr 20, 2008 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

nope, but I am at 400
and not trusting 800 or 1200.  Picture quality example posted.
--JFS

by JFS_PGH on Apr 20, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oscarito sighting
you watching Goat?
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Big seelction!!
All the heads of state have made it into a small group of 15 or so! Van Summeren still alone... whoops, nope  he's done and Ivanov attacks.

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Van Summeran is
a beast!
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Farrar
Did he actually say Farrar instead of Millar? How do you mess that up?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Ivanof
flying out front
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

since I cut him
from my VDS he is sure to win.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quite a selection made now, with
Ivanov AST out the front of a group of about 40, and then quite a big gap back to the rest of the peloton.  All the big names in that group, incl Cunego, Valv, Frankie, Kolobnev, Kroon, Ballan, Zabel, Kirchen.  Ivanov has a big gap already, about 1'

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Any Schlecks
in the lead?? or is Kolobnev their guy now?

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I think F. Schleck is up there,
but Kolobnev just dropped to the back of the group, looks like he's suffering.  

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beautiful roads!
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Barlo rider
bridges to Ivanov
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

new thread?
we're at 325 posts, do we need a new post before finale?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. -Randy Pausch

by nikki on Apr 20, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Isn't Kolobnov
off the back?
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Ivanov joined by Pfannberger, the AUT
champ on Barlo.  Ooh, Matt Lloyd overcooked that turn, ends up in the grass, gets back up, no problem.  13k to the finish!

by Ruthann on Apr 20, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

22%
OUCH!
It's just around the next bend. Really.

by tshawytcha on Apr 20, 2008 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently
that sign says: Dangerous. Cyclists dismount.

by Monty. on Apr 20, 2008 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

22%!
It never really shows on camera.

That is unbelievably steep.

-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

The gap is down to nothing
The rest of the field goes over the top.
-K-

by KevinK on Apr 20, 2008 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

SWITCH TO SECOND OPEN THREAD PLEASE!
I think this is as good a time as any, before we hit the magic 400. Thanks!

by Chris Fontecchio on Apr 20, 2008 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

The kid!
Goes w/ Schleck and Rebellin

by hughw on Apr 20, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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