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I picked a rather eventful morning to sleep in, it seems: feeds crashing, bikes airborne, and no shortage of nits to pick with the course. All that, and the first successful breakaway of the Giro. Not too shabby!

First item: apparently Cycling.TV has lost the feed just before the finish two days running now. I experienced this firsthand yesterday but managed to jump over to RAI in time for the conclusion. Today I missed the stage, but apparently it happened again. We have gripe sessions here from time to time about tech issues with their coverage. Mostly they're infrequent, and with a few exceptions most of us who rely on their service have little trouble. But the dropped feeds... that's bad. Apparently our reputation for, um, free speech has caught their attention, and Cycling.TV parks someone on the live feeds everyday. Today's poor guy mentioned a couple things of interest, namely that he's sent around some email internally about the problem -- sounds like they need a wake-up call -- and that the site will be upgraded in some unspecified way next month. Anyway, it's been a frustrating couple of days, but I think we've let Cycling.TV know that the problems cannot continue, and I think at least some of the people there agree. So we'll see where this is headed. For anyone who wants to continue this topic, Crashdan has started a thread in the FanPosts section.

Frustration was the name of the game on the road as well, as David Millar of Slipstream submitted his entry for admission to the Bike Toss Hall of Fame, thanks to a broken chain in the last KM of a day-long, successful group escape. His form is outstanding:

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[update] Sporza has it on video. I can't find any clips of Riccardo Ricco's entry (help!) Here's Riccardo Ricco's tepid version... but compared to the standard by which all bike tosses are measured, Millar's is pretty solid.

1997 Tour de France, stage 20 (via SmithersMpls)

Then there are the endless transfers, the subject of frustration to the various traveling caravans, from the riders to the journos. There is a great story on Pez today where Richard introduces us to an important metric: the F-Bomb Quotient. Probably not new to the journalists who've been reluctantly covering the Giro for the better part of a century. One additional onion in the ointment, not considered in my earlier analysis of the transfers, is traffic. It's one thing to say a 130km transfer up the Tyrrhenian coast sounds acceptable; it's another if you have to wait in traffic for three hours before even getting rolling. Apparently the organizers aren't creating getaways for the teams, and the highway crews of southern Italy aren't especially interested in the presence of the Giro either. Welcome to southern Italy.

[update] Things could be worse: they could still be on Sicily. Apparently that lovely volcano the peloton traversed on Monday is erupting.


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Chris, Will there be

interim updates to the Giro VDS scores or will it be updated at the end?

by Teel22 on May 14, 2008 2:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Interim

I didn’t bother Monday after only two stages… maybe more of a Thursday thing?

by Chris... on May 14, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How about more of a

when one of my riders takes the day? Like today!

Look, it’s not going to happen often so throw me a freakin’ bone. I’m the big cheese….need the info.

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

by Drew... on May 14, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I still can't decide

which part of the Riis incident I like best. Is it

A) his realization just after throwing the bike that he might actually need it back
B) his forlorn expression as he approaches the fallen bike, as if to say “c’mon, I really didn’t mean it”
C) His mechanic’s attempt to foist a new bike on him
D) His ignoring the mechanic while he futilely fiddles with his original machine
E) Giving up entirely, wiping the grease off his hands in the grass, and then gazing out over the field he’s in while wishing he were somewhere else entirely and that his entire season has just gone up in smoke.

Perhaps a poll would sort this out.

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

by Drew... on May 14, 2008 2:58 PM EDT   1 recs

Also Pevenage

standing by the car doing his impersonation of Peter Sellers in “The Party” , looking guilty while trying not to get involved, blamed or yelled at.

by Jens on May 14, 2008 3:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, so that was Rudy?

This is before my time of watching or riding, though I’ve filled in some blanks since then. It really is a comic scene all around, though I suppose Bjarne doesn’t enjoy the replay half as much as we do.

Did Rudy start working for Telekom when Jan started riding for them – in other words, was he with Jan as a Junior?

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

by Drew... on May 14, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I must admit to not recognizing him

but the commentators say it’s him and it makes sense since he was second DS after Goodefroot at the time.

by Jens on May 14, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

lol

The post-tossing is always the funniest. Uh, now what do I do?

That Riis footage is priceless.

by gavia on May 14, 2008 6:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think maybe bike tosses are

to races what crashes are to NASCAR. A shame, but secretly a little thrilling.

by Sui Juris on May 14, 2008 3:19 PM EDT   0 recs

At what point in a cycling commentators career do they learn the phrase...

... “sorry for the picture breakup”

============= Daniel

by crashdan on May 14, 2008 3:21 PM EDT   0 recs

First hour of first race

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

by Drew... on May 14, 2008 3:26 PM EDT   0 recs

knowing that phrase

is a prerequisite. You can’t even get an interview if you don’t already know it…

by Jimbo... on May 14, 2008 3:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Here's Ricco

Some five minutes into this clip you can experience the bikethrowing abilities of The Cobra.Pretty weak compared to the champions witnessed above but you must remember he’s a little dude and doesn’t have the armlength and physiche to get a really good tossingmotion.

Il Cobra at his finest

by Jens on May 14, 2008 3:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Looks like Millar

crossed the line 119th, but got the same time as the four place fellow (Perez Sanchez), for .25 back on the day.

by Sui Juris on May 14, 2008 4:20 PM EDT   0 recs

As I said

Good direction by Ricco- across the line but… he’s such a pussy.

by ursula on May 14, 2008 4:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Did

Dave have to go get his bike?

by Superconfex on May 14, 2008 4:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Someone did but I couldn't tell ya who

There’s some pics of him waiting for the team car and fans directly behind him look to be holding it at the side of the railing.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on May 14, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I tried posting this in FanShots

but I couldn’t get it to work. From the photos on cyclingnews, there is a great shot today of Pellizotti putting on his jersey. I think his new nickname should be camel toe.

Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring. –Desmond Tutu

by bethie on May 14, 2008 4:25 PM EDT   0 recs

thank god for

Bethie’s technical ineptness.

As a service to my fellow readers, I warn you away from clicking that link.

by Sui Juris on May 14, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Take his advise

Not pretty

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again?

by CannonDowell on May 14, 2008 4:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OMG

And they say women are bad for that. Must wipe tears from eyes after all the reading on this site today. Good god please help us. LMAO and loving it!!!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on May 14, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Errrrr....yeeeeah

I have a pic from the final podium of ToC where D Millar is displaying. Unlike others, I had the decency not to point it out. Let me tell you, it looks worse in all white.

by Hons on May 14, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you for not

My belief is that the shorts should always, always, always be dark but not even black would help hide that from time to time. Ick.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on May 14, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow

Clearly Pellizotti is not Lance in disguise…

by Jimbo... on May 14, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up   2 recs

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

by Hons on May 14, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh yeah?

Lance being chummy with Hein Verbruggen. Is that a seatpost in your pocket?

by hughw on May 14, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh my....

LOL – that is almost pricesless!
Do you save these for future viewing years later?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on May 14, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Anything i have ever seen

on the internets that are about cycling and that, at the moment, interested me, are here:
http://del.icio.us/hwinkler/cycling/

by hughw on May 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

shammy tuck

Clearly, someone needs to help him out with the shammy tuck. Pulling down the undershirt is also recommended.

Just trying to help here.

by gavia on May 14, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you like that sort of thing

Then try hunting around for shots of the French pursuit team on the podium after the recent worlds at Manchester. CN’s photos were from the waist up, but if you saw the tv coverage then they probably should have been renamed Team Stiffie, powered by Viagra.

by Monty. on May 14, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

who knew

that Gene Wilder was starring in this year’s movie of the Giro . . .

by R Mc on May 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ON the throwing incident

We know that Chris loves to pull out that vid of Riis. Pretty good stuff. Distance ok, but no air.

Ricco, lame attempt with niether of the two big factors needed for a great throw.

Millar on the other hand, well Michael Jordan would be proud, his vertical reach was niiiiiice. Over the barrier and some good distance to boot. I say he’s the new bike throwing guru. And for the record, Millar really gets on my nerves.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again?

by CannonDowell on May 14, 2008 4:42 PM EDT   0 recs

I think those two videos really make you question Cervelo

They are always talking about how weight isn’t everything, you need to consider aerodynamics. Millar clearly benefits from his lighter bike. Riis’s more aero TT bike just doesn’t get the same boost off the ground and I think many on the Pro-bikechucking scene are going to take note of this fact.

by Jens on May 14, 2008 4:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

guilty

as charged. Hey, I have to think of the new visitors to the PdC.

by Chris... on May 14, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Millar's toss

wow. I just watched the laatste kilometer on Sporza. Not only does he get incredible distance and hight. He also got a triple rotation. Impressive.

by Hons on May 14, 2008 5:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mt. bikes are much more satisfying to throw

since it’s always in the woods and you can get right back on and ride away. My friend threw his Merlin (I know) a good 15’ into the woods once.

"Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

by Drew... on May 14, 2008 4:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Provocation matters

Ricco’s throw wasn’t due to losing a real good chance at a Giro stage after you’ve ridden away for 150K. I think that might give even me that extra burst of adrenaline for a good bike toss.

by Markk on May 14, 2008 5:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Transfer craziness

VN is running an article on the peleton’s frustration with the transfers. There is a great quote regarding Slipstreams hurdles:

Following its victory in the team time trial Saturday, the team bus got lost in the maze of streets in Palermo. After nearly two hours of combating traffic, someone realized that their prizes included a Garmin GPS device. David Millar opened up the package and punched in the team’s hotel and they were home in no time.

by Hons on May 14, 2008 5:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow

in the last 100m of the finish it looks like Brutt is trying to turn the pedals using the momentum of his head. Wow…

by Hons on May 14, 2008 5:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Millar

How ‘bout a very nice slo-mo replay?

by gavia on May 14, 2008 5:18 PM EDT   0 recs

doodsmakt

I so blew that linky, which I just discovered cuz I wanted to show bf of Gavia. l’oopsy.

Here’s the real linky. Looks great in slo-mo.

by gavia on May 15, 2008 12:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ok, that's bizzarro

I put the linky in, but it keeps going to the feedbag.

Here’s the real linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqTKaDmUr1w

Phew, that was like hard and stuff.

by gavia on May 15, 2008 12:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gavia, you crack me up

Type the word you want to be the link… if that word is “slo-mo”, after you type “slo-mo”, you highlight that word and then click the little chain looking icon. A box pops open. You paste the link into that box and voila! Easy as toast.

Behold…

slo-mo

by Jimbo... on May 15, 2008 1:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

NOW I know why he tossed the bike...

Whatever mechanical he had tossed his junk into the bike frame starting at his upper thigh. you can see it at :38 in the video.

============= Daniel

by crashdan on May 15, 2008 10:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Millar's own words...

It’s always fun to read from David -

I did this until my chain broke. I was so raging and so focused that all the energy I had for winning the race was taken out on my bike. I’m not that person, I don’t see red. But I think it’s quite funny I did that. I’ve yet to see the footage…

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on May 14, 2008 5:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Some more writes from Millar...

This was posted today on Bicyling, Millar Diaries – Inside The Peloton

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on May 15, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's another photo

over at cyclingfans.com go down to Thursday, May 15, 2008. He’s got his bike back and is watching the peloton come past. The broken chain is still in the middle of the road ready to chew up the tyres of the Astana leading the way.

by Monty. on May 16, 2008 6:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thready 'bout cycling.tv

Does this mean the cycling.tv rants can go somewhere other than the live threads? It’s sort of a buzzkill to be hangin’ following the banter, only to have it go off into cursing cycling.tv. Maybe we could have a separate thready for such things?

Me, I’m too dumb to mess with that stuff. My computer is pretty much like my toaster: turn it on, toast my bread, turn it off. If it requires pushing more than one button, I’m out.

by gavia on May 14, 2008 6:33 PM EDT   0 recs

A suggested guideline

Full-on cathartic rants should probably go to a sidebar. They’re important, but don’t make for great reading later. But in the live threads, if you’ve lost coverage, then the CTV people watching the thread need to know about it ASAP.

by Chris... on May 14, 2008 7:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sounds great :-)

maybe the support peeps from cycling.tv could take it to the sidebar too, when trying to resolve issues?

not trying to be a pain in the ass, but it would make for more entertaining reading

by gavia on May 14, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mt Etna

is clearly upset about the quality of our cycling.tv coverage…

by Jimbo... on May 14, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Question about Mountain Classifications in the Giro...

I printed out the RAISport Calendario of the Giro (and having it hanging in my office so that everyone at work can rest assured that I am still a euro-sport weenie) and looking at the mountain classifications, they only show 3, 2 and 1. How does that compare to what the TdF stuff I’m used with 3, 2, 1 and HC climbs?

For instance… San Pellegrino and Giau are both listed as a “1”. Would those be considered hc?

============= Daniel

by crashdan on May 14, 2008 7:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Gavia

Is a definite HC climb, so is the CTT to Kronplatz. If those aren’t HC class climbs I’ll eat my shoe, or better, ride them myself with one good knee. ;-)

by DZI on May 14, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dude...

I’m like so HC here. Just kidding ;-)

Not sure why they don’t use HC in Italy. My fave is Spain, though, where the really big mountains are especiale. Sorta like the tequila, only different.

San Pelli, Giau, Fideia would all be HC. Ditto for Gavia and Mortirolo. I’d have to look at the profiles again to see the rest.

by gavia on May 14, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What's going on

here? The caption refers to stage winning. But I would hazard a guess that it involves transfers and stage length.

by Hons on May 14, 2008 7:47 PM EDT   0 recs

Hmmmm

this picture precedes it. Me thinks that the previous shoot just got Bettini’s ‘bad’ side.

by Hons on May 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow... how much time does Bettini spend rocking those sideburns?

I mean, they’re not spikey or angular. It’s like he uses a French Curve to get it around his ear!

============= Daniel

by crashdan on May 14, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oopsq

I guess you’re wondering what the hell I”m talking about.

This is the original pic that caught my eye.

by Hons on May 14, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Dolphin?

I think we should call him “Ferris’ sister”...

by Jimbo... on May 14, 2008 7:58 PM EDT   2 recs

save ferris!

ohmigod, that resemblence is truly frightening…

by gavia on May 14, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If I only had time

to read this stuff at work, I’d be so much happier!!

Nice to get a huge, sustained laugh at the end of the day, but if I weren’t so damned busy I’d be laughing at loud in my office!

by Cyclingrush on May 14, 2008 10:05 PM EDT   0 recs

bene confiscado: qui la camorra ha perso

Finally go to see the end of the race and had a quick look on this one. In 1984, the Italians confiscated a hotel/spa/park complex named Parco delle Querce in Contursi Terme from the Camorra. About a year ago it was handed over to the local commune, along with lots of money from the EU for redevelopment. And who is it who controls all the construction firms in the South. Looks like a win all round. This is the actual hotel

and you can see a couple of videos here straight from the local mayor’s office.

by Monty. on May 15, 2008 6:30 AM EDT   0 recs

grazie

Bene confiscado, indeed.

by Sui Juris on May 15, 2008 8:49 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That "hotel"

is a few sets of bars away from housing a few Camorra, for good. Yikes.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on May 15, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cool.

thanks for the explanation. it was bugging me…

by gavia on May 15, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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