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Suisse Stage 5... LIVE!

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Suisse Stage 5... LIVE!


A climber's route? Perhaps, at least for a while as the Tour de Suisse crosses some slopes early on. The conclusion is a downhill run-in though, more of an escaper's course than anything else. Enjoy!

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"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 6:59 AM EDT   0 recs

today's weather

sunny, 19-20 degrees, with 25 at the arrival

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 7:25 AM EDT   0 recs

Hello umwolverline! Early bird again, eh?

What time is it there?

Thanks for the updates, as usual! ;)

by Bruce Suomi on Jun 18, 2008 7:40 AM EDT   0 recs

7.44am

but, i’m up at 4am daily….
usually at work by 5am…. gotta get those fin rpts down…..
btw, with “suomi”, would it safe to assume you speak finnish?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 7:45 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and work...

.... is a short trip down the hallway to the living room….
and can’t get there until after being mugged by the puppies, cause they’re always starving ya know

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 7:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

eh, that is impressive!

Being a Finn I naturally also speak the language.
You speak any Finnish?

What kind of work do you do?

by Bruce Suomi on Jun 18, 2008 8:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

finnish?

nope… i know the words i’m looking for to get a company’s interim and annual rpts….

the company i work for retrieves financial reports from around the world and indexes them for client retrieval…. i cover the scandinavian countries, norway, London Stock Exchange, Toronto Stock Exchange. also help out with Japan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand…..

oh, yeah, and let’s not forget those polish companies….

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 8:07 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

184km to go

sylvain chavanel trying to get away from the peloton

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 7:46 AM EDT   0 recs

172km to go -- 14-man break, no gap given

Johan J. Tschopp (BTL), Pietro Caucchioli (CA), Sylvain Chavanel (COF), Marco Marzano (LAM), Morris Possoni (THR), Aiovanni Visconti (QST), Maxim Iglinsky (AST), Benoit Vaugrenard (FDJ), Jose Rujano Guillen (GCE), Pieter Jabos (SIL), Mathieu Perget (GCE) et Alessandro Vanotti (LIQ)

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 8:01 AM EDT   0 recs

caucchioli is the threat, 1.48 behind gc leader anton

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 8:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to jack the thread, but

Does everyone know that Slipstream-Chipotle is now Garmin-Chipotle?

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jun 18, 2008 8:40 AM EDT   0 recs

Jepp

Will be lots of new uniforms at the Tour this year, unprecedented?

by Capisce on Jun 18, 2008 8:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

One thing's for sure

People who don’t follow the Euro peloton that closely are going to wonder what happened.

by dheadrick on Jun 18, 2008 9:04 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

does that mean we will get more bike-suitable garmins?

I was thinking about getting one. Decadent? Maybe. But with my sense of direction…

by JFS_PGH on Jun 18, 2008 9:32 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably

I’m guessing they’ll take rider inputs and fix any problems/streamline functioning. Having pros testing out your systems and giving feedback has worked out well for bike companies, why not Garmin.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jun 18, 2008 10:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd tap that

Somehow I seem to be able to avoid getting lost on bike, even though in car and on foot I can take two turns from my house and be completely stranded. But for peace of mind and, more importantly, for flashing around at my friends who don’t have interesting gadgetary, I’d totally buy one.

by CTV-ROLD on Jun 18, 2008 10:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

just being able to overlay

your trackpoints on a map is an absolute dream come true for those of us who ride their bikes like urban assault vehicles. From bike trails, to laneways to dirt paths, it’s nice to see where you went and having the chance to optimize the route for future rides—a terrific tool for planning rides.

live to ride, ride to live

by orangekick on Jun 18, 2008 10:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

141km to go

Pieter Jacob (SIL), Marco Marzano (Lampre) and Maxim Iglinsky (AST) cover Sylvain Chavanel (COF) and Giovanni Visconti (QST). The nine remaining riders met in a new group of attack.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 8:41 AM EDT   0 recs

let's get caught up

125km Mathieu Perget (CGE) has achieved a “jump” and joined the leading group. Alessandro Vanotti (LIQ) also posted group of hunters. His behind the eight riders in the lead only 47 seconds.

135km It is followed, with only 37 seconds behind the first by a group of hunters, including Mathieu Perget (GCE), Jens Voigt (CSC), Pietro Caucchioli (CA), Steve Morabito (AST), Johan Tschopp (BTL) and Alessandro Vanotti ( LIQ). Then the pack with a delay of 2’28 “on the race lead.

135km Let’s do a quick assessment of the situation: the head, there is a group of 7 riders including Jacobs (SIL) Pieter, Marco Marzano (Lampre), Maxim Iglinsky (AST), Benoit Vaugrenard (FDJ), the Jos Rujano Guillen (GCE ) Sylvain Chavanel (COF) and Giovanni Visconti (QST).

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 9:20 AM EDT   0 recs

Hey guys...

wow this is getting into full swing pretty early today! :-)

by rebeccactv on Jun 18, 2008 9:27 AM EDT   0 recs

fair warning

Rebecca,
nothing personal of course…
But I now have FiOS at home, and the most updated MacOS and Flip4Mac available. And I have already signed in, well in advance of any coverage. So if CTV dares to stutter on me today (or in the future), don’t look for any “could be on my end” statements in my posts. Especially now that “someone’s” lawyers have strong-armed the Denmark feed so it can no longer be accessed worldwide.

by JFS_PGH on Jun 18, 2008 9:40 AM EDT   0 recs

Have you tried...

defragmenting your hard-drive and reinstalling your OS? If not, it’s all on your end!

by CTV-ROLD on Jun 18, 2008 9:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

having to click through 5 screens

is all on my end too, smart ass

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jun 18, 2008 10:07 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hahaha...

live to ride, ride to live

by orangekick on Jun 18, 2008 10:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I for one

admire Harold’s wit. Just as long as he doesn’t smart off at me. And welcome back Rebecca. How was Greece?

Which Italian Pro Tour Team rides the Cannondale SystemSix?

by Jimbo... on Jun 18, 2008 10:32 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ha ha, me too,

i’m just trying to grab his attention back from the garmin conversation! Greece was great thanks – awesome cycling out there.

by rebeccactv on Jun 18, 2008 10:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just toss a pint at him

now and then, and maybe one of those pie thingies that Anthony and Brian seem to be obsessed with.

Which Italian Pro Tour Team rides the Cannondale SystemSix?

by Jimbo... on Jun 18, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I grabbed a pie to throw at him...

...but Brian ate it before i had a chance

by rebeccactv on Jun 18, 2008 10:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So what is the deal with the pies?

Is that like us and our drinking game?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 10:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I got no problem with his wit

it’s issues with service that chafe my butt… ctv needs to spend time making life easier for those who spend money on them. The Danish feed was welcomed because ctv did not work. Now that’s been shut down and we get wise cracks instead on good service.

To quote Laurie Anderson… “I paid my money, I;m just not sure that this is what I paid my money for.”

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jun 18, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and yes...

if they made life easy, i’d probably give them some money. but they don’t, so i don’t.

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

of course

but he seems to forget whos working for whom…

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jun 18, 2008 10:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If harold and rebecca internalize CTV

they would have to curl up in a fetal position and moan, instead of fixing problems for us. So I like it when they exhibit individuality and even wise-assery. It means there’s someone who thinks independently on the inside, and that HAS to be a good thing.

by JFS_PGH on Jun 18, 2008 10:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Danish TV thing

Not to be a CTV apologist, or get into a big argument about this, or highjack the race thread, but if CTV has purchase exclusive rights to broadcast a race over the internet from the race provider, all assumptions on my part, and then someone other broadcaster starts to infringe on that, then CTV has every right to complain and get the other guy to shut down. That seems fair to me. The fact that they may be providing crap service to us customers is another issue entirely. Just my $0.02.

Which Italian Pro Tour Team rides the Cannondale SystemSix?

by Jimbo... on Jun 18, 2008 10:52 AM EDT   0 recs

If they can't fulfill their contract to provide that service

Their contract probably requires them to make the content available. I doubt the race sponsors of any race want their race to be effectively blacked out from the world market—the team sponsors and the race sponsors also have legal rights. Without seeing the contracts, I’d still assume there is language stating that the race will contract for international distribution…and the distributor promises to carry out that distribution, not pull a media black-out. At its worst, CTV comes close to creating black-out conditions.

There’s also the moral question: regardless of legalities, if CTV’s actions are hurting racing, not helping it… and if CTV’s actions, not DK TV’s actions, are cutting into CTV’s revenue stream…should international law / internet law really have the ability to grant exclusive rights to ALL forms of distribution?

In that case, if China wants to shut down coverage of its next tiananmen square incident, all it would have to do is claim broadcast rights, and then broadcast / sell only the images it wants to project…oh, wait, i guess that’s no so far-fetched.

by JFS_PGH on Jun 18, 2008 11:03 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

all that said

800 loaded on the 2nd or 3rd click, good enough for me

by JFS_PGH on Jun 18, 2008 11:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

they must have hit reset (on the servers)

before the race—I’m running 1200 nicely.

live to ride, ride to live

by orangekick on Jun 18, 2008 11:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ditto - here too :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 11:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

CTV is live

Live link, so you don’t have to click through those five screens:
http://cycling.tv/channels/premium/live-races/live-race-viewer?id=716

by CTV-ROLD on Jun 18, 2008 11:05 AM EDT   0 recs

Thank you Harold!

So much easier than the normal way!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 11:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

40 km to go, 3.01 the gap

sizeable looking break – maybe 7 riders

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:09 AM EDT   0 recs

Jens!

Jens in the break.
also visconti and cauccioli.
a milram, whose name i missed completely. hopefully, they show it again.

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:09 AM EDT   0 recs

Streaming at noon est..

...will be tough between ctv and the garmin-chipotle news conference. the audio would be interesting.

Save The Legs!!!

by jack376 on Jun 18, 2008 11:11 AM EDT   0 recs

Are you serious

Choosing between a race and a bunch of corporate guys spewing platitudes about opurtunities is easy….

by Capisce on Jun 18, 2008 11:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And Schleckies doing water duty :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 11:12 AM EDT   0 recs

Steady on

If Martin and Brian find out there’s a “pie duty,” we’re going to be running back and forth to the shops all afternoon…

by CTV-ROLD on Jun 18, 2008 11:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tee hee hee!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 11:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Quick catch up -

17:08 CEST 151km/39km to go
Jakobs was the one who won the first sprint of the day, but it looks like this is the most he is going to get for the stage

Current race situation
Pieter Jacobs (Silence – Lotto), Marco Marzano (Lampre), Giovanni Visconti (Quick Step) and Maxim Iglinsky (Astana)
José Rujano Guillen (Caisse d’Epargne) and Sylvain Chavanel (Cofidis – Le Crédit par Téléphone)
Mathieu Perget (Caisse d’Epargne)
Peloton at 2.41

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 11:12 AM EDT   0 recs

si

i was just going to post the break!

thanks for saving me the typing… though it’s probably better karma for us to do it ourselves when possible than lift the cn coverage…

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:16 AM EDT   0 recs

I try to credit where I pull it from but missed it on that one.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 11:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

iglinsky solo on a hilly bit

maybe 15 seconds on the break

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:18 AM EDT   0 recs

ooopsy

it’s morabito? thought it was iglinsky, my bad…

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:18 AM EDT   0 recs

swiss

extra motivated

by JFS_PGH on Jun 18, 2008 11:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Irritates me how these guys

always do something if their close to home etc, why don’t they do it all the time

by Capisce on Jun 18, 2008 11:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

do you run every flight of stairs?

It would be healthy, you know… People want to shine for the home folks, even if it hurts them the next several days.

by JFS_PGH on Jun 18, 2008 11:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah but they usually do quite well

I’m not saying they should attack every day, but I think they limit themselves by always waitig till home roads

by Capisce on Jun 18, 2008 11:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

iglinksy is all turqoise

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jun 18, 2008 11:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

14 second gap says the official time

i guess good, even if it was the wrong rider :-P

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:18 AM EDT   0 recs

out to 20 sec...

si, iglinsky among the chasers. lol, funny.

break doesn’t look so cooperative – a little split – visconti and a few others going across to morabito looks like jens! visonti, caucioli and a bweeg

by gavia on Jun 18, 2008 11:21 AM EDT   0 recs

Morabito is getting real gap - up to 44 secs!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jun 18, 2008 11:22 AM EDT   0 recs

all back together now in the break

gap at 46… oopsy, he’s going up the road, kids

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