Maybe I'm not a true cycling fan
Normally this time of year, I can't wait for the tour to start. This year, I'm much less interested.
I read this site, cyclingnews, velownews and other regularly. I watch all the races I can and ride regularly. It might sound like I'm a fan of cycling, but I don't have much interest in the upcoming Tour. I'm sure at least some of my lack of interest is because there are only four US riders in the race. No Levi and no Horner.
I should explain that I did follow the Giro this year even though no US riders were likely to win. To me the Giro is more interesting because they have a wider variety of stages. In addition to mountain top finishes and sprint finishes, they also have small hills near the finish so classic riders like Bettini can contest the stage.
At the Tour this year, there will be a small number of riders who can win. Evans, the consensus favorite and second place rider from last year, is not an attacking rider. He'll ride tempo or follow wheels to the end. There is no team time trial. There's no US rider that will challenge either in the sprints nor in the mountain stages. After all this, the best stage rider in the world right now, Contador, won't be at the Tour.
I might watch the Tour to see how much Valverde has improved as a grand tour rider, see how well the Schlecks do, or to watch the Rico show. While these might seem like good reasons, they are not overly compelling.
As a fan, I'd rather have another Giro and skip the tour this year or maybe cycling.tv will broadcast the Cascade Classic.
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I’ll bet you $5 that by the end of the Tour you’re watching. I’m not ridiculing your concerns, not in the least. I just believe in the healing powers of a bang-up Tour.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris... on Jun 29, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Having a domestic rider to root for helps though
Having a rider who has at least an outside chance to do well in the race really does raise the temperature of the Tour-fever, I have to say.
by Jens on Jun 29, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definetly!
With no Finns + Astana, my Tour interest has hit the rock bottom.
Sure I’ll watch some stages, but not all of them , which I’ve done for years.
by Bruce Suomi on Jun 29, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cascade
Have you looked at the stages of the Cascade Classic? That looks more compelling. Chris Horner in his home race with Levi to support him. TD trying to come back to form (not sure who else from Garmin will be there).
I’m sure the domestic teams will be sending their top talent such as Ben Jaques Mayne, Rory Sutherland, to try to get a win against the guys from across the pond.
I admit that I’ll get on the ‘net and look at the results, but what are the compelling plot lines of this year’s tour?
by John.. on Jun 29, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cascade
Hey, no argument here. But if Levi and Horner blow out the competition, and we have a five-way battle royale for Yellow… just sayin, the riders will make the race.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris... on Jun 29, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i heart cascade
It’s usually a really good race with fab scenery. That said, a grand tour, regardless of who is riding, is like sitting down on the beach with a good novel. There are plots and subplots, good guys and bad guys, and you never really know what’s going to happen as you turn each page. There are always new characters to meet, and old friends to revisit. And always, something you see something you didn’t expect.
The shorter stage races, yes, they’re fun to watch. But there’s nothing quite like a three week tour.
LOL, but then, I have enough favorite riders that really, there’s always someone I like on the start list ;-)
by gavia on Jun 29, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
you are bad accustomed, when I see a portuguese rider, i do a party.
Unfortunately, our hope for this year, Hugo Sabido… don’t goes.
by semprenaroda on Jun 29, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, some countries are luckier...
and get “accustomed” to having lots of their riders there – me, I’m just happy to see a Canadian at the Tour for the first time in over 10 years! That and one of my favourite riders is the favourite (everyone has their differing preferences for different reasons ;-) ).
by guidemd on Jun 29, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's nothing wrong with wanting to have a US rider to cheer for
But maybe you just need to find a non-US rider to cheer for. Evans, if you need an English speaking rider to cheer for, is a good bet. You mentioned that he doesn’t attack and only follows wheels, but that is just not true, especially this year. But there are many other riders to cheer for that don’t speak English but have riding styles that you may like. If you want to watch it and find someone to pull for, you will.
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Jun 29, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evans
In my opinion, Evans is more like Levi. He can follow at a really good pace, but doesn’t have the instant accelerations like Contador.
I did follow the Giro where no US riders challenged for GC. The Giro has better routes. They have small climbs near the finish of many stages allowing for many types of riders to win. A rider like Bettini isn’t going to challenge for many stages in the Tour, but he has a shot at several Giro stages (I think the same can be said for Rebellin, Shumaker, and sprinters who have some climbing ability).
Yes, the riders make the race to a certain extent. I’d be happier if Horner, Levi, and Contador were in the race (OK, I’d settle for just Horner). The defending champion and likely best stage race rider in the world right now is not riding. This decreases the importance of the biggest race of the year. How can it be the biggest stage race if the best stage race rider is not there? I realize it sounds like I’m a huge Astana fan, but I’m really not.
Gavia makes a good point that you never know what is going to happen. There will be revelations and plot lines will develop. I would never have guessed Solar would win the mountain jersey nor would I have thought Robby Hunter would perform so well. Stuart O’Grady’s “Harden the F* UP” bracelets brought on new meaning after his accident. Those are somewhat interesting and something like that could entice me to watch the Tour, but I was hoping for something bigger.
I might be spoiled – that’s probably fair. I’ve had Lance win several times. Tyler placed fourth, Landis finished on top of the podium, Levi was third, and Horner was 15th (or so). Now, I routing for Vande Velde to finish top 20. That probably does mean I’m spoiled, but it is a big difference from the past.
II am curious as to what other see as the biggest plot lines of the Tour. Is the biggest plot line, we don’t know what is going to happen? What is compelling you to watch?
by John.. on Jun 29, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is
Last year could have turned out differently if Evans didn’t have LL and AC attacking him constantly. So, I’m gonna have to disagree about the race not counting as much. You still have to beat the others. People could say that since Lance retired, a Tour win doesn’t count as much. But that’s just not true. A win is a win. Who knows, next year if AC races again, he might blow up spectacularly, you never know. Either you’re going to enjoy it or you’re not, it really is that simple.
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Jun 29, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay John..
We need to get you pumped with the fun that is about to happen!
Not positive how to do that exactly as I too am going to miss Levi being there and I love Horner and DZ. Then take out Bobby and Michael Barry and some sentimental favorites to watch for on the stages has gone down but I am still super excited for this. I love C and Will so I’m psyched to see them riding. I’ve never been one to need an overall GC guy to follow but love animation and really love seeing the young guys make some noise and get noticed. Watching C over the years take his pulls to get his leaders up front has kept me glued.
I was glued to CSC for 3 years so I have favorites there with Andy, Frank, Jens!, Fabian, Stuey – okay well basically I love watching the whole group. Then Columbia has been growing on me all all spring so I’m excited to see what they do. And of course I love the G-Men guys and even though I don’t expect final podium results they’re going to give us some great stuff to watch for. C loves being the underdog and he and team are stoked and ready to have some fun. I enjoy results but I LOVE seeing guys have some good fun while giving it their all and doing the best they can. This is huge for some many riders this year. Newbees, youngin’s, more tuned and ready to go after it.
Every year, every race has someone that didn’t make it or is injured so for me it’s not really about a favorite although I have plenty I love watch racing. Heck I’m even falling in love with sprint stages (okay well that last 10K, but still). This year I think I’m more excited about all of the unknowns. The Olympics is throwing some peaking and craziness that we normally wouldn’t see. I think the favorites will be the top 10 but it is so open with young talent that I think some pretty awesome spoilage is going to happen and in good ways this year.
Maybe look for some youngin’ to follow.
Always fun getting in on the early stages of careers and watching them grow!
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Jun 29, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Thanks Nikki. I like everyone on CSC you mentioned, maybe Stuey most of all because I greatly respected his attitude after his accident last year. He has worked his butt off to get back into shape after an accident that would have crushed me for life.
I really like Michael Barry too. I hope he gets a shot at riding the Tour before his career is up (I don’t think he rode the Tour last year – think he was sick).
Thanks for the encouragement – you make some very good points. Hopefully, I will be pleasantly surprised by this year’s Tour.
by John.. on Jun 30, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever we need to do to get you on board the Short Bus
with us to have a blast over the next three weeks – we are SOOOOOOO here for you!!!
I love CSC and have a grandfather clause built into my fanfare of my garMEN that all love for them is okay! :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Jun 30, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh you'll change your tune boyo when
Bweeg thoroughly dominate this Tour.
by ursula on Jun 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Hmm, maybe you just can't stand CLEAN cycling
I don’t mean literally. I just wonder if that isn’t a least partly the reason the Tour seems boring to you this year. In fact, I wonder how much a less drug-addicted peleton will reduce attacking.
Anyway, I’m still suspicious as hell of Astana, and their Golden Boy. I think it’s a smart move to keep the Kazaks home. Might prevent another ruined tour.
So count me in. I’m psyched for this tour. If we make it through without another drug blow-up, I’d say it’s a whopping success. Plus, I always root for the French anyway. I like a good underdog.
by Tiki on Jun 30, 2008 1:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cycling Fan-ness Ebbs and Flows
Like any sport, whatever gets you going is better in some years then others.
Relax and go ride your bike more this month, or you could even catch up on all those things you need to get done so you can watch the Olympics with peace of mind.
Besides, the next Giro is just around the corner!
AKA – Vuelta a Espana
A lot of the people you want to see race will be there, and it should be a blast to watch.
by Ryan_Liles on Jun 30, 2008 2:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not ridiculing anyone
but cycling is one of the most entertaining sports around.
I don’t need a Dutchman in Tour to be involved thouroughly, so I don’t understand John’s point.
The great thing about cycling is the tactics, seeing the stage evolve and especially in the Tour, seeing the start of the stages as well. Apart from that, the Tour will be quite different this year with no 8 sprintstages before the fun starts. They did do a good job in mixing up the first 9 stages, although the second week is quite pale with 4 transitional stages (if you can call that ‘a transition’). Basically I can root for any achievement during the Tour, be it an American, Spaniard or German doing a fantastic job on the day. Don’t need a fellow countryman to spice things up, yet I understand the trill of rooting for one of your ‘own’.
Then again: Who’s a spoilt brat? Seven times Armstrong, isn’t that enough? ;-)
You can't lose against Italy, we can only fail to win - Johan Cruijff
by DZI on Jun 30, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Why are you crying?”
“In April I inherited a million dollars”
“That’s nothing try cry about, thats terrific!”
“And then in May I inherited another million.”
“Well then why….”
“And now it’s the end of June and I haven’t had an inheritance in a whole frigging month,that’s why I’m so miserable”
by Jens on Jun 30, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorites just
took the Dutch RR over the weekend, and I can’t wait until he makes it to the Tour. Until then I’ll just have to watch him from September – February.
"Hey, hey, settle down boys and girls or Krusty will have to bring out his old friend Corporal Punishment again."
by Drew... on Jun 30, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lars Boom WAS incredible
The power that kid has? Dare I say: “Unrivalled”?
Still, I think he said after the cross worlds that he’d be crossing for three more years, although he’ll be added to the Rabobank pro-ranks in 2009.
Can’t wait until he gets serious on the roads. With his climbing and TT capabilities…. Who knows. He might even be a better future bet than Dekker, certainly steadier mind (which is easy for him, since he wins more than he loses).
You can't lose against Italy, we can only fail to win - Johan Cruijff
by DZI on Jun 30, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly.
"Hey, hey, settle down boys and girls or Krusty will have to bring out his old friend Corporal Punishment again."
by Drew... on Jul 1, 2008 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Tour will be great as always
It seems just about every year there is a crisis before the race … but it is always exciting.
Remember 2006 when there was no Lance and then no Basso or Ulrich? It seemed pointless for a moment.
But the race is bigger than the racers.
I can’t wait.
by cyclingchallenge on Jun 30, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John consider this a challenge for you to get to know other riders
in the pro cycling world. Once you get to know the riders, their stories and foibles, see the majestic scenery, the drama in the racing, the argy-bargy sprinting, the lactic acid killing me suffer face in the mountains, the sheer beauty of the man & machine duo in the TT, well you’ll be sucked right back in.
Add to that, the insightful comments and discussion on PC, and yes sometimes the silliness of our posts too will be the cherry on top.
So watch the first few stages with an open mind and join the madness that is the Tour de France.
by lyne on Jun 30, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
swoon
join the madness. that was cool.
are you sure you’re a math major? this is really confusing.
;-)
by gavia on Jun 30, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well it was real math - none of the counting crap
;)
by lyne on Jun 30, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha!
counting it totally over-rated, in my opinion. it always leads to no good.
by gavia on Jun 30, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
counting *is*
typing is over-rated also.
by gavia on Jun 30, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you really have to know how to do in this world
is divide and multiple by 10%. Everything else flows from there.
And really now, was it so important to come up with negative integers and imaginary numbers? Do they actually help that much? I’m dubious.
I’d have thought imaginary numbers would have actually helped my math grades but nooooooooooo, “you have to show your work.” Bah!
"Hey, hey, settle down boys and girls or Krusty will have to bring out his old friend Corporal Punishment again."
by Drew... on Jul 1, 2008 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's one of the few races where the stages themselves have "star power."
The course itself, I mean, especially the climbs—and what each has done to the world’s best riders in the past. Add something as “simple” as the weather; we have some spring classics riders who are great in the rain, but if the heat hits, do they wilt or bloom? There are always a few who thrive when the mercury rises, and win my admiration.
Admittedly, we’re missing one of the “star climbs,” namely the Ventoux. But we have the Tourmalet. This is where Steines, having nearly been killed trying to make his way through the snow in (May? June? Winter?) falsely assured Desgrange, "Crossed Tourmalet. Very good road. Perfectly practicable. Steines" thus introducing the first really major, high altitude climb into the tour…before racers used shiftable gears.
I want you to watch, and while watching, think of the 1910 Stage 9, which “featured four major climbs (including the Portet d’Aspet) over its 289 kilometres” and stage 10, with “326 kilometres over five climbs: the Peyresourde (1,569 metres), d’Aspin (1,489 metres), the Tourmalet (2,115 metres), the Aubisque (1,709 metres), and – in case it were thought too easy – the Osquich at 390 metres to finish it off.” (see reference link above).
You know the whole story about the rider who had to work the forge himself to fix a broken wheel, back when the riders could accept no help? That was on a descent from the Tourmalet.
I’ll let someone else rhapsodize over the Alpe d’Huez (I think some of that has been done over at the “stages” posts.)
I won’t tell if you skip some of the sprints, but your bike race fan soul wants you to watch the famous climbs… plus enough of the stages before so you know who’s where… and of course, you won’t be able to stop watching afterwards.
by JFS_PGH on Jul 1, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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