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Le Tour Stage 13... LIVE!!

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Le Tour Stage 13


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Definite sprint stage today, though as always the question is whether it's for the stage win or leftover points. There are a handful of teams who have to be starting to sweat it out a bit. Little over a week left in the Tour, and four stages will be off-limits to all but the very strongest. This leaves five stages, starting today for certain teams -- Bouygues Telecom, Liquigas, Lampre, Agritubel -- to do something. [OK, Agritubel had Feillu in Yellow, but no stages.]  It wouldn't shock me to see Garmin launch someone in the break too. We'll see... Enjoy!

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Forza Ollandia!

Nikki Terpsta (MRM) and Brard (Cof) in the attack.. Gap is increasing fast. Hard time for Evans to give away his jersey in this stage

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 7:24 AM EDT   0 recs

Only rumour but.........

France 2 television are apparently saying that there will be an announcement later today that Piepoli has tested positive.

by Jens on Jul 18, 2008 7:45 AM EDT   0 recs

See Speculation--> Couldn't found it other than Dutch..

Feel free to post other sources

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by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 7:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yep, there were some rumors yesterday in Spain

that another SDV had tested positive or was soon going to

by King of Doping on Jul 18, 2008 7:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cyclingnews.com says peeps is done.

On the live feed they have Ricco and Piepoli fired for CERA and SD is contemplating puling their sponsorship.

by Fred Marx on Jul 18, 2008 9:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Leakygas

also hold white at the moment – and a good chance of keeping it in team till paris so I don’t think they’re terribly disappointed. Kind of a interesting squad; 2 up-and-coming GC riders who they’d be happy to place in the top 20 on GC and their 2nd string sprinters. Pozzato is their one established top shelf rider, but needs the stars to align to get a result in a GT. So I don’t think they’re going to be unhappy (well apart from the Beltran thing, ahem) with the tour so far. Bweeg also had the polka dots for quite a while there, so would like more but hard with the talent they have to expect much else.

Lampre OTOH – not so happy I’d expect. Bennati was good last year after some early troubles. It shows the value of having a top shelf sprinter – no problems riding multiple GTs and giving the team a focal point.

by Rothko on Jul 18, 2008 7:55 AM EDT   0 recs

AFP Reporting

that Prudhomme had issues with Gianetti and suspected SDV after Hautacam.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gOdObBQ-BHwd80NSF_0K-uUfz1jA

It bugs me that David Millar was singing Gianetti’s praises yesterday after the team “withdrew”. Note to David… better to keep you mouth shut and have people think you a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 8:21 AM EDT   0 recs

more from CN

14:22 CEST
Ricco has denied any doping. Yesterday’s comments from Christian Prudhomme were interesting: he also cast doubts on the performances of Ricco’s team-mate Leonardo Piepoli and Juan Jose Cobo on stage ten to Hautacam, as well as saying he didn’t trust team manager Mauro Gianetti.

Reading between the lines, does this mean there could be more positives from the team? The results of the anti-doping controls for more recent stages are awaited. Certainly if any more Saunier Duval riders are found positive, the team’s future will be in doubt. Right now, all activities are suspended until further notice.

http://live.cyclingnews.com/?id=latest

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 8:29 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Transfer news

Colom will be riding for Tinkoff next year

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 18, 2008 8:23 AM EDT   0 recs

Source?

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 8:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ty! But why woult Tinkoff have Colom? Nice helper?

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 8:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he is more than a helper,

he can TT, climb etc.
Very good rider, imo.

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 18, 2008 8:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Have see him to few I see.. Let's see how it works out

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 8:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wants to be more than a helper

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Jul 18, 2008 10:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Race is up on german eurosport link

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 8:34 AM EDT   0 recs

120k's, 7min gap

2 riders in the break, Terpstra and Brard
FdJ & Columbia leading the peloton

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 18, 2008 8:47 AM EDT   0 recs

Lang goes for spotty points

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 8:53 AM EDT   0 recs

"It is true that Ricco had said I would win here, but in reality it's just a coincidence"

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:03 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

got=took

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by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 9:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Surely you jest.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not long

Cobo was play acting at working hard on Hautacam. He and Peeps were flying up there like it was flat. Dirtbags.

by KevinK on Jul 18, 2008 9:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ans F. Schleck?

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by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 9:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Clean as a whistle

till I see proof otherwise. IMHO

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So Cobo is also clean.. Until proof

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 9:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not in my view.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Compare Peeps and Cobo to Schleck on the climb.

Schleck went in and out of oxygen debt several times.

Peeps and Cobo were talking to eachother while they rode away from him.

by KevinK on Jul 18, 2008 9:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cobo has finished top 10 in the Tour.. Schleck didn't

So not that strange that he is riding away from Schleck

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 9:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oops finished 20th

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 9:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But you can't found something guilty of 1 stage or climb

Cobo has proved it more than Schleck in the bigger mountains. Schleck more an explosive type. So he is running out more quickly and if you get away with 2.. Your morale get very high..

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Jul 18, 2008 9:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes but with the last two days

It wouldn’t be wrong to be suspicious. It would be wrong not to be.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 18, 2008 10:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

here's my reasoning

CSC has a testing program. I’m assuming the heads of state group and Schleck are trained to about the same level, and produce a similar range of Watts/kg.

Schleck was clearly climbing at or slightly above his limit. He dug too deep a couple of times and had to slow down.

Cobo and Peeps were climbing quite easily—not even breathing hard. So they were probably only at about 80% of their max, possibly less. So they can produce 20% more Watts per kilogram than the heads of state group?

To me, Cobo appeared to be pretending to struggle, which to me was a dead giveaway that they were doping.

by KevinK on Jul 18, 2008 9:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Devil's Advocate View

CSC also had a testing program (less rigorous and not external, but a program nonetheless) when Basso and Hamilton were on the team.

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by Koppenberg on Jul 18, 2008 9:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point

but I still think FS is clean.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:40 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nothing compared to Damsgaard...

That guy hunt cheats for a living, I have no reason to think any CSC rider cheats since he is testing them.

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 18, 2008 9:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just did a fanpost on Damsgaard's latest

review of the CSC program, read for yourselves!

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. - George Carlin

by Ruthann on Jul 18, 2008 10:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can the dope really be that good?

I mean, does the dope increase your performance so much that you have to pretend to be working hard? Really?

That would make it far more potent than EPO. Look at video of riders from past Tours who have admitted or been busted for EPO. Look at Riis climbing Hautacam in the 1995 Tour. He’s not pretending to struggle on the climb.

MJB

by MJB on Jul 18, 2008 9:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, they were ALL on dope then.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:40 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Break goes through the feed

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:06 AM EDT   0 recs

German ES just confirmed Peep's dismissal.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:14 AM EDT   0 recs

Good morning all

doesn’t look like much is going on, although it is nice to see Milram in the break.

Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Jul 18, 2008 9:16 AM EDT   0 recs

morning Kopp

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good Morning guys...

I have soooooo missed you. Funny how much one can miss in just one day… :-(
I’m trying to catch up in the next hour or so but don’t think it’s gonna happen.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 9:20 AM EDT   0 recs

4.5+ hour drive up here was not my smartest decsion in terms of comfort zones

BUT, spending time with my godson and his older sister – best recovery medicine evah! :)
Lightening storms killed friends wireless router the night I came up so her and I are both here drinking coffee getting reconnected to the world here this am. So sad but so true! :)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 9:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Welcome back Nikki

I hope you are feeling well.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:22 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hi Nikki

HA – it will take a while to catch up ! Hope you continue to get better

by roadside on Jul 18, 2008 9:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I died with the Ricco news and feel so bad for Drew.

Quite the morning/day to miss being connected. But, certainly confirmed why I am so proud of C and the gang. A positive there is something I will NEVER worry about. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 9:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Better switch

internet providers kiddo ;-)

How’s the abdomen? I hear CERA is pretty good for that kind of thing.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Jul 18, 2008 9:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My internet is good. Storms up here were really bad an lightening fried the router. :-(

I so miss ya. I will be trying to get an email to you shortly. :-) No blood clots found (got clearance for drive up here) and doc said to get ass on bike as soon as possible – HA! Now he said that with a smile making STRONG notation that it is to include NO intensity for at least 2 weeks but to get out and ride to help with leg fatigue. I so likey the surgeon doc man.

CERA is the new vicoden I heard. Worried Brett might discover it… oops. Sorry that was so bad. Being this close to Green Bay is very ugly as that is ALL that is on the news these days.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 9:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, so

you can get back on the bike but only light spinning for 10-14 days. That will definitely help with the circulation if that’s all the issue is.

As for Brett – if you could shove him into the trunk of your car and deposit said car in Lake Michigan, that’d be great.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Jul 18, 2008 9:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry to say

but Brett is tres suspicious in my book.

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well.. in a sport as clean as the NFL...

Favre sticks out like a sore thumb for doping :)

Ricco stole my marbles.

by crashdan on Jul 18, 2008 9:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He's the Millar of Football....

He was busted (more than once) and is now (or has been till now at least) cleanest player I’ve watched. Hasn’t even drank. I love my Packers but damn I wish he’d retire and stay retired. And the thought of him going to Minnesota – the trunk idea is not all that bad!!!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 9:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hahhahhahhahhhahhaaaaa...

“clean” hahhahhahhaa… “NFL” hahhahhhahhaaa….

Stop it , stop it… tooooo funny

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Jul 18, 2008 9:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

after the cycling doping education

I’m inclined, too, to think that the doping rate in the NFL is 99.9%.

The only non-doped players are ones with allergies to the PEDs.

by KevinK on Jul 18, 2008 9:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nah... they just take massive cortisone injections...

... to overcome the PED allergy

Ricco stole my marbles.

by crashdan on Jul 18, 2008 10:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm so laughing.

Girlfriend is just sitting here smiling. Although she’s prepared to help get him in my trunk…. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 10:03 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

pretty boring stage....

now english ES also confirms Piepoli’s & Ricco’s sacking…

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 18, 2008 9:29 AM EDT   0 recs

money quote
“(Team manager) Mauro Gianetti has lost faith in them and he decided to fire them from the team,” David Garcia, a spokesman for Saunier Duval, told Reuters.

yeah, right. I am shocked, SHOCKED, to discover there is doping going on here.

by KevinK on Jul 18, 2008 9:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Boring is okay on a day with limited catch up time... :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 9:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hi Nikki

hey you better keep me posted with stage results today. I am counting on you. GO C

by rose on Jul 18, 2008 9:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Going to be tough.

I’m only here for an hour or so. Then we’re off. Tam’s getting a belly button ring and me a tatoo… tee hee. Taking full advantage of pain meds! ha! I might not get back until late Saturday night. TV viewing is easy but web, not so much. I’m calling John in a bit. Think he leaves for France tonight. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 18, 2008 9:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What are you getting and where?

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Jul 18, 2008 9:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"Et Tu Drewte"

Across her knuckles…

Ricco stole my marbles.

by crashdan on Jul 18, 2008 9:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Every time I see Bruce add a comment

I read it as “Bruce Simoni”. So that’s what I’m calling you from now on – with respect!

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Jul 18, 2008 9:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs