The Highest Road
by gavia
on Jul 22, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
in Live Races
Post-Race Show! Stage 16: Cuneo-Jausiers
Here are today's stage results and the new general classification.
Some stuff happened today at the Tour. Two mountains of unusual size were climbed. The highest road in Europe was ridden. Some of the kids went faster than the other kids. Suffering was had. Time was lost. Somebody won.
Classifications. Cyril Dessel of AG2R takes today his first ever Tour de France stage. The yellow (Schleck), spotted (Kohl), and green (Freire) jerseys all remain unchanged today. In the general, Christian Vandevelde of Team Garmin lost time, falling to sixth overall at 3.15, while Denis Menchov of Raboank lost 30 seconds and currently sits 5th at 1.15. The top four in the general remains unchanged. Andy Schleck of CSC-Saxo Bank takes over the lead in the white jersey classification by 6 seconds over Vincenzo Nibali of Team Liquigas. Roman Kreuziger holds 3rd at 50 seconds, while Maxim Monfort, who gained time on today's climbing stage, remains 4th at 2.18.
Tomorrow? The classic Galibier-Alpe D'Huez Combo!
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Still no sign of CVV
I’m weeping salty tears
Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste
by Koppenberg on Jul 22, 2008 11:07 AM EDT 0 recs
Aii Menchov Menchov....
how this guy wants to win the Tour, losing time like that.
by semprenaroda on Jul 22, 2008 11:08 AM EDT 0 recs
-2:35 for Christian
sniff…
Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste
by Koppenberg on Jul 22, 2008 11:08 AM EDT 0 recs
off to work,
thanks for the company!
Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste
by Koppenberg on Jul 22, 2008 11:08 AM EDT 0 recs
kreuziger should be in white now
nibali finished behind him
by gavia on Jul 22, 2008 11:10 AM EDT 0 recs
good day for evans
gained time on other TTers – Menchov, CVV
no time lost to Schleck or Sastre
by slowK on Jul 22, 2008 11:10 AM EDT 0 recs
exactly
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
by ELVISGOAT on
Jul 22, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
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He lost the chance to spend a week in yellow
because he was messing around trying to get one in 2006
by Monty. on
Jul 22, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
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Crashdan
I’m with you
Lotto tactics – WTF?
Is there much point in having Popovich either off the back on any climb up til now, or off the front all day?
How ‘bout a day actually with Evans when he gets bashed by CSC on the climbs?
by slowK on Jul 22, 2008 11:13 AM EDT 0 recs
This really comes down to the strategy of the DS . . .
. . . pure and simple
by Ryan_Liles on
Jul 22, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
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andy in white no?
14. SCHLECK Andy 16 TEAM CSC SAXO BANK 68h 39’ 17” + 09’ 01”
15. NIBALI Vincenzo 67 LIQUIGAS 68h 39’ 23” + 09’ 07”
16. KREUZIGER Roman 65 LIQUIGAS 68h 40’ 07” + 09’ 51”
by robinhowlett on Jul 22, 2008 11:13 AM EDT 0 recs
Is this a first? Two brothers in jerseys at the TdF?
by Ruthann on
Jul 22, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
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oooh, that's pretty cool
i have to bet it is, but we’ll have to look around later and see if anyone can confirm it
by gavia on
Jul 22, 2008 11:17 AM EDT
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Good Q
There’ve been a fair number of brother combos in Cycling.
5 free yearlong VDS points to someone who can find the answer.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:18 AM EDT
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si
i’m on italian teevee and they thought he held it…
by gavia on
Jul 22, 2008 11:15 AM EDT
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Ok... please explain *Lotto...
I’m totally baffled… through a guy in the break… and leave him there… don’t let him drop back to assist your GC contender… bring a crew of essentially useless guys as gregarios to… I don’t know… pad out the Autobus… and leave your sprinter to twist in the wind without even one guy for support.
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on Jul 22, 2008 11:13 AM EDT 0 recs
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You are not brought upon this world to get it!
by itswells on
Jul 22, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
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Indeed!
I’ve been waiting… patiently… for someone to bring out the Big Trouble. You guys really warm my heart!
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
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Nice picture of Schumi approaching the summit
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
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Tall guy, weird clothes. First you see him, then you don't.
by itswells on
Jul 22, 2008 11:40 AM EDT
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Rider #211: David Lo-pan
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
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... just stands there waitin' for me to drive my truck straight through him????
WITH LIGHT COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH?
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
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Who are these people? Friends of yours, huh? Now this really pisses me off to no end!
by itswells on
Jul 22, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
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Well, I guess Menchov just joined Lum Li in the hell of being cut to pieces...
“The hell of what?!?”
“Chinese have a lot of hells.”
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 11:46 AM EDT
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Tomorrow he's going to be stuck in
the Hell of Eternal Climbing. That won’t be much fun either.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
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And he'd better have
his 7 Demon Bag.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
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Six demon bag...
... Six demon bag eh? Fantastic, what’s in it?
Wind! Fire! All that kind of thing.
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 11:51 AM EDT
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D'oh! Stupid fingers!
I’m going to smash them.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
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Ow!
Ok, that was a dumb reaction.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
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If you have any influence over your youthful friend ...
... I suggest you exert it now or I’ll see you both rolled off to the hell where people are skinned alive it’s that simple, understand
Are you crazy? Is that your problem?
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 11:54 AM EDT
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Would you stop rubbing your body up against mine,
because I can’t concentrate when you do that.
by itswells on
Jul 22, 2008 11:56 AM EDT
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I'm going to have to buy
the Director’s cut to get me through the winter trainer sessions. Anyone have it and if so, is it worth getting?
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:57 AM EDT
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On that point...
... if ever there was a movie worth purchasing all available copies of… it’s Big Trouble in Little China (well, that and all Evil Dead movies too). John Carpenter et. al. deserve your hard earned money if anyone does.
I remember the commentary track from the Laserdisc waaaay back when and it wasn’t all that in depth on the movie… it was essentially John Carpenter and Kurt Russell sitting around drinking beer and talking about how both of their ex wives were in Escape from New York.
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
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But,
I will be searching/purchasing it this weekend, now!
by itswells on
Jul 22, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
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Yessir, the check is in the mail...
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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I know it well
Both Escape and Big Trouble are great. I try to get my kids to appreciate them but for some reason they think the movies are goofy.
Kids- absolutely no taste whatsoever.
by ursula on
Jul 22, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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buying a copy
And I’m pretty sure you can get one on Amazon for $0.01. Double bonus!
[OK, it’s a fun movie.]
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris... on
Jul 22, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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Saw the same thing at lunch
It will be mine.
Deleted scenes. Mmmmmmm.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
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That's exaclty what I'm looking for
Kurt and Tim sitting around talking about whatever. Excellent.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
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It will come out no more!
WHAT? HUH?!?? WHAT WILL COME OUT NO MORE?
Ricco stole my marbles.
by crashdan on
Jul 22, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
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Cool mom
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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I'm sayin'!
It’s just a little weird for me. She quote the movie like that a lot. And these days she looks a lot like Lopan
by rocketpress on
Jul 22, 2008 12:42 PM EDT
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Yes. Yes she does.
That’s been an ongoing joke in the family.
by rocketpress on
Jul 22, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
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Huh? Popo in break is good
Popo in break is good, just like KAA and Jens, better in front then off the back. I think they thought the break would get caught. Once over the top it didn’t matter since it was downhill all the way.
by Markk on
Jul 22, 2008 11:17 AM EDT
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except . . .
that KAA and Jens! dropped back to help shred . . .
Popo must have taken out his earpiece when the instruction came, or he’s still having trouble with Flemish . . ..
by R Mc on
Jul 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT
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And how was Popo dropping back going to help?
He was only a couple minutes ahead. CSC is pushing. Lotto is reacting. If there a break with Schleck he drops back, otherwise he drops back, gets dropped, and then where are you?
by Markk on
Jul 22, 2008 11:22 AM EDT
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By that time, the situation was pointless to debate.
Strategy and general team planning is supposed to be done before the stage begins.
I would have had Cioni, or someone else, up in the break and Popo beside Cadel, but the DS for Lotto seems to think Popo is better used in this manner.
I happen to think he is a jackass for it, but I’m not in the car and he is.
So what do I know?
by Ryan_Liles on
Jul 22, 2008 11:27 AM EDT
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concession by the ds
Watching the previous moutain stages, I don’t think Popovych could have stayed in that group of favorites anyway. Certainly, he’s been dropped early and often enough in this Tour. Given that, it made sense to send him up the road as insurance, in the event that Cadel was gapped, he could come back to help. Otherwise, he plays for the stage. The way the stage went today, there was no reason for him to come back to the favorites group, since he was hardly going to contribute to CSC’s pace-making. It’d have been a decent strategy if Popovych had won the stage, as it was, it wasn’t bad, just insurance.
by gavia on
Jul 22, 2008 11:32 AM EDT
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Pointless
Other than giving Popo a chance to do something for himself. I think they’ve ceded the team tactics to CSC from now on.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
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post-race
nibali, said he felt bad on the climb and tried to get back on the descent
cunego said, it was a hard day, he was happy to make it to the finale with the favorites. i tried to get back some time but it was hard. i must thank my team mates who worked for me and helped me. tomorrow the crescendo on the alpe d’huez.
cunego sounded trashed.
by gavia on Jul 22, 2008 11:16 AM EDT 0 recs
And then there was 5
So now there are only 5 within three minutes
1 Fränk Schleck (Lux) CSC-Saxo Bank
2 Bernhard Kohl (Aut) Gerolsteiner 0.07
3 Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence-Lotto 0.08
4 Carlos Sastre (Spa) CSC-Saxo Bank 0.49
5 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 1.13
After tomorrow it will be down to whomever is under 2 minutes IMHO.
6 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Garmin Chipotle – H30 3.15
Unfortunately , he’s just out of it now.
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
by natbla on Jul 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT 0 recs
If CVV can keep it like that after tomorrow
he can make up some spots on Saturday. Podium is still realistic.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
by Drew... on
Jul 22, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
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I pretty much stated that in the live thread.
The win would take something horrific by others but the podium itself is not out of reach.
Positive email already sent off. It’s all what he keeps believing in his head.
He was okay needing to drop off the leaders but I really thought he’d be with in a minute. Hearing the -2.35 was not right. I just hope the crash didn’t cause any injury. He would’ve been in great shape if that hadn’t happened. Now it’s going to take some serious determination to make it happen. When it does – breathtakingly sweet. (When, not if – must keep all vibes positive.)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on
Jul 22, 2008 11:49 AM EDT
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I'd agree the podium is stil possible
But this is a weird year with everything so tight time wise this late in the race. He’ll need to pick up at least 30 seconds tomorrow and more like a minute to have a shot at the podium as he has to make up 3:07 to get up to 3rd.
If he just hangs with the group tomorrow than i I see him overtaking Sastre i\on Stage 20 but it will be tough to get back 3 minutes on the top 3 in the TT. The one exception is Kohl. But he has to pick up 2 minutes on Menchov between tomorrow and Saturday to get past him too. I think 5th is a realistic outcome if CVV can hold with the group tomorrow. A great tour by most standards for a riders first time as leader at the Tour.
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
by natbla on
Jul 22, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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CVV interview
he crashed as did cofidis riders (sylvain!?)
181 & 165
by callmecayce on Jul 22, 2008 11:21 AM EDT 0 recs
C crashed - not complete bonk.
Now I want to cry….
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
by nikki on Jul 22, 2008 11:21 AM EDT 0 recs
CVV interview on VS
Difficulty in climbing, crashed on way down (with Cofidis riders). Lost rhythm. Not over.
by Sui Juris on Jul 22, 2008 11:21 AM EDT 0 recs
