Gusev fired by Astana over suspected doping
Russian Gusev fired by Astana over suspected doping
MONTLUCON, France, July 25 (Reuters) - Russian cyclist Vladimir Gusev has been fired by Astana on suspicion of doping, the team said on Friday.
Astana, who are not taking part in this year's Tour de France, carry out internal tests on their riders and when the data is considered abnormal the cyclist is fired.
"Astana has terminated the contract of...Gusev due to irregular values," the Kazakhstan-funded team said in a statement, underlining that Gusev had not failed a dope test.
"The values were gathered during internal out-of-competition tests under the supervision of Dr Rasmus Damsgaard."
Astana, the team of Tour de France champion Alberto Contador of Spain, were not invited to this year's race because of their past doping record.
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Looks like JB is serious
about getting an invite back to the Big Show.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
I've been thinking that maybe these irregular blood values
were published as a responce to the surprise dope testing at CSC…? Damsgaard wants the TdF to know that they mean business…hopefully the Schleck brothers didn’t have irregular values, something that Damsgaard didn’t catch…?
anyway… I smell politics.
live to ride, ride to live
got a link to add?
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 25, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
nope... copied it off my trading platform which has real time streaming news feed.
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OK cool
Do you know who the source is??
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 25, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
source...?
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thanks
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 25, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing up yet
on Reuters’ website.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 25, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
good enough
link added
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 25, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the Goose
I really liked the Goose, he sure knew how to suffer. Oh well, I guess the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree. A Russian busted for doping, say it ain’t so.
If I just had one more gear, I...
suspected doping...
certainly his career isn’t over—he isn’t banned from anything just yet.
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it says abnormalities
in an out of competition test. also, the team specified it was not a positive control.
l’equipe adds the line: “by this policy, the team certainly wants to demonstrate its new policy, far from the doping affairs of last year”
Could you imagine
The reaction if Astana had been invited to the tour and Gusev had been “suspended” during the race?
yes, "I told you so" comes to mind
this makes ASO decision to exclude Astana a prudent one.
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or at least
a lucky one.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 25, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly.
No matter what type of internal testing program is in place, there can always be some jackass that thinks he can still slip under the radar. This is exactly the reason ASO did not want to let the squad back in this year. It had nothing to do with liking or disliking JB, but the risk was simply too large to ignore. Had Astana been in the Tour, and had Goose been in the race, this news would have been catastrophic.
Is there anyone who can honestly say that had Astana been invited, and then had something like this happen, that this would not have been THE STORY? It would certainly have ruined the race this year. I’m glad they are not partipating.
by The Team Chef on Jul 25, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the IF/THEN
statement there is the catch. I don’t think Astana would have brought any dopers to the dance, this year. JB (not out of any moral decency, but a sense of self preservation) would have tested them six ways to Sunday before letting them line up. Either Gusev wouldn’t have doped, or he’d never have seen Brest.
Agreed,
but no amount of pre-race testing is going prevent some ignoramous from biting into the forbidden fruit during the race. Any positive from an Astana rider, regardless of the best intentions of JB to field a clean team, was far too great of a risk for ASO. There was absolutely no way to prevent something like this from happening, other than excluding the team from participating. As unfair as this may seem, it was the only way to protect the race this year.
by The Team Chef on Jul 26, 2008 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
hmm..
i’m guessing they’ve been sitting on these results for a bit, and timed their announcement appropriately.
when better than at the end of the tour when lots of people will notice? that rumors are circulating in the press about the schlecks – and frank in particular – and the extra testing of csc, eh, astana running for the pr high road here.
schleckies
Dear Gavia, please I have been wondering much about these rumors concerning the Schleck boys. I rest assured, however, that your gossip du jour will be the first to break any news of Frankie’s downfall.
So hoping this one never pans out.
If they wanted to lend credibility to this story
they would have dredged up the old dirt on Kim Andersen. He’s the DS who is is closest with the Schlecks, he lives and trains with them in Luxembourg, he if anyone is the “fatherfigure”. I surely don’t think they are above suspicion but to drag this weak-asssed shit up at this point in time just reeks.
If it had been Menchov who had exelled you can bet your butt-tocks it would be "news" about the Humanplasma-story that surfaced at the appropriate time.
si..
Of course, if there is anything concrete, I will put it up pronto.
So far, there isn’t. I’ve been debating putting up a post about the rumors, ie, what’s being said, on what basis. Hmm. I haven’t really decided whether it’s worth the effort – the most credible story comes from suddeutsche zeitung, but even that thingy is pretty thin.
And yeah, agree with Jens, the stories about Menchov haven’t seen much light, ie, his reported training adventures with Rasmussen.
Eh, maybe after lunch. Hard to write abour such things on an empty stomach ;-)
Oh come on
At least say something incendiary about how Bjarne Riis is involved in CSC and his past with doping?
Blame my wife!
if you're going to start listing which DS was involved in doping
in the past, well pretty much all DSes will be listed.
Thanks!
wow, so quick like. much appreciated!
lol, any time
true confessions? i already had some ideas about that one going, so it went a little faster than it otherwise might have ;-)
Gusev just took 2nd in GC at the Tour of Austria on 07/13, too. From CN.
Final general classification
1 Thomas Rohregger (Aut) Elk Haus – Simplon 26.54.28
2 Vladimir Gusev (Rus) Astana 0.39
3 Ruslan Podgornyy (Ukr) LPR Brakes 1.05
4 Chris Anker Sørensen (Den) Team CSC – Saxo Bank 2.02
5 Giampaolo Caruso (Ita) Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni-Androni Giocattoli 2.47
6 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 4.09
7 Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Astana 4.23
8 Walter Fernando Pedraza (Col) Tinkoff Credit Systems 5.31
9 Jure Golcer (Slo) LPR Brakes 5.42
10 Thomas Frei (Swi) Astana 5.59
11 Michael Barry (Can) Team Columbia 6.05
Damn it, I really liked to watch that guy race. Grrrrr.
3 Astnai in the top 10 - not too shabby
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
It will be interesting to hear what JB says about it tonight during
VS’s prime time show….
And note, I had to list Michael Barry’s performance there, finishing 11th in GC. Oh, I wish, I wish he was at the Tour….
The shows are usually pre-recorded in the morning.
I would be surprised if they had it on tonight
He wrote a nice piece on TTing in today's NYT
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Link? I so heart reads from Mr. Barry. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
The Guardian picks it up
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/feedarticle/7678663
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
Is he the first?
Maybe it’s because it’s 5:30 on a Friday, but I don’t recall anyone from the other teams with internal doping controls getting fired for “irregularities” before.
Does anyone know of another?
Sergei Honchar
Was let go by Stapleton last year do to irregular blood values
Paxti Villa?
maybe…?
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
Astarloa showed "irregular blood values"
but there wasn’t a lot of information released about that suspension.
by King of Doping on Jul 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget Rasmussen ...
who was quietly released by CSC at the end of the season a few years ago because they didn’t like the way his blood looked.
by GreylockGrinder on Jul 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, can we think about that again?
Because ASO’s decision to exclude Astana certainly cleaned up the TdF this year!
Next team for Gusev
the new porwerfull Russia team of Oleg Tinkovv (Kai…=, for who taken Petacchi, or wants too, Gusev is clean enough.

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