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Valverde... WTF? Discuss.

2. Gilbert 3. Pineau 4. Kirchen 5. Ricco

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top ten

stolen from previous thready:
Valverde
Giolbert
Pineau
Kirchen
Ricco
Evans
Schleck F
Pozzato
Freire
Pereiro

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 11:15 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That had to be

a 300-400 meter sprint from VV.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Jul 5, 2008 11:16 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still in shock

i was not expecting valverde to go for it….but it certainly makes sense for him to take an uphill sprint finish.

by steph- on Jul 5, 2008 11:16 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice to see Frank up in top 10. :-)

I think Millar was 11th ish maybe?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Valv

takes 1” over the next group

by Hons on Jul 5, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think it might have been different

if there hadn’t been that huge split because of the crash.

181 & 165

by callmecayce on Jul 5, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It just doesn't look like a tour top 10

Did I fall asleep and wake up next April.
oh and Voeckler gets the Polka jersey

by Monty. on Jul 5, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The overhead shots really show how VV powered up the last 400m.

Damn, I would have loved Kirchen to take it. They’ve got to give VV a second or 2 don’t they? There was a gap…

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. - George Carlin

by Ruthann on Jul 5, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

V just finished being interviewed on eurosport.fr

he basically said that he’s on the best form even for a Tour and that he just met his first goal – winning a stage. And now he’ll see how it goes for the rest of the Tour.

by lyne on Jul 5, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Merci.

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. - George Carlin

by Ruthann on Jul 5, 2008 11:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey...

is that off the cyclingfans audio linky?

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 11:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sweet

good enough. i’ll switch to them for post-race. always takes a stage or two to get all oriented like.

the jump.tv of german eurosport is great :-) but cuts off before the interviews.

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 11:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

digging the time

gaps already. Makes it interesting from the start.

by Sui Juris on Jul 5, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awwww

that’s cutey, voeckler i mean

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awww,

one of my favorite moments – when the CL lion comes popping around the background held up by a body-less hand.

by Katiek on Jul 5, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love this too

makes me smile every time, i miss july when it’s other months of the year

i am master of my fate, i am captain of my soul

by randie on Jul 5, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So

Does CdE try and keep the jersey tomorrow? Or does a break away take the yellow from his shoulders? Another uphill finish.

by Hons on Jul 5, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man - the Badger still looks like he could throw down

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Jul 5, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

these commentators Portuguese

named Kirchen as Eisel
and Gilbert as Seb Chavannel !!lol

by semprenaroda on Jul 5, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Green jersey

looks kind of like a skirt

by Hons on Jul 5, 2008 11:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, they mis-judged VV's jersey size for sure. Must be a "small."

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. - George Carlin

by Ruthann on Jul 5, 2008 11:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They all look like LG's.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 11:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once again, I hate to say...

that was an amazing sprint, made even more amazing when you watch the Slo-Mo.

I got two in the top 10!

Racing for Victory and Free Beer!

by DemonCats on Jul 5, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 for me

Including Valvarde. Not that I have any chance to catch the overall leaders.

by pigilito on Jul 5, 2008 11:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Love seeing Voeckler up there.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whoa lyne...

..i am loving the scruffy look on valverde…gave him the extra power

by steph- on Jul 5, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

that’s the superstition

by lyne on Jul 5, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

contract news:

was this posted before? menchov renewed with rabobank. bizarre.

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Most combatative of the day

went to Jegou. But this one is open to a vote of French viewers so expect some strange results this week

by Monty. on Jul 5, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG!

So laughing at Ricco with the white leggings and little arrow. So Funny!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does he ever smile?

Go Team Zoe!
Cavendish, Di Gregorio, Fothen, Kirchen
, Kreuziger, Lowe, Siutsou
, Ten Dam
, Y.Trofimov and Vandevelde

by ZoeRochelle on Jul 5, 2008 7:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why yes...

Yes he does! So damn funny I busted up laughing.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh oh

Charm offensive. This won’t end well.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Jul 5, 2008 9:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh oh

is right.

who’s he going to tell off this race? the suspense is killing me.

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yikes

Go Team Zoe!
Cavendish, Di Gregorio, Fothen, Kirchen
, Kreuziger, Lowe, Siutsou
, Ten Dam
, Y.Trofimov and Vandevelde

by ZoeRochelle on Jul 6, 2008 12:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kim A. (CSC):

We knew this stage would fit Valverde, Fränk was there too, as was Carlos.
Didn’t get all of it, but Kim seemed happy.

Kurt A:
It was a stresfull day. Glad he didn’t crash. Everything looks good for the team.

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 5, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the translations

tv2 video worked great this morning.

by Veloki on Jul 5, 2008 11:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

aaaaugh!

enough about contador and astana already!!!

by steph- on Jul 5, 2008 11:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

lemme guess, versus?

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 11:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well he is the defending champ....

until the end of July that is of course.

No matter if you like him or not, Champs should always be allowed to defend their title (unless they are caught doping of course, like Landis)

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 5, 2008 11:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I so heart C and he looks so good right now. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Missed part of that, did they say if he finished up at the front?

One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. - George Carlin

by Ruthann on Jul 5, 2008 11:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No. A bit further back than he wanted

but many blew up at the end causing bigger splits than he expected. Time to call pops. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 11:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C finished 18th.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 12:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Time to get ready

for a party to celebrate my parents’ 55th wedding anniversary! (luckily planned for later in the day ;) )

by Katiek on Jul 5, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Show them some clips of the podium

The woman in white among the dignitaries is French singer Line Renaud who was the starter today and also in 1952.

by Monty. on Jul 5, 2008 11:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eurosport UK

is showing women’s roller skiing biathlon? Someone please confirm this because I may be having another episode…

by Jimbo... on Jul 5, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Danish studio is up now.

I’ll do my best to try and translate the important parts.

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 5, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From the studio:

Fränk S. is unlucky since he was again involved in a crash.
Soler was the big looser today, unfortunately.
Valverde was impressive (agreed), and will most likely give up the jersey tomorrow (not sure about that)

Boonen’s ban was wrong.
They compare Cancellara and Valverde in different disaplins.
Cance wins with 23 points against 18 points for Valverde. Piti lost because of his TT skills, they didn’t measure the climbing skills between these two, ironically.

Studio hopes Valverde wins, since he is a complete rider, according to them (agreed).

Studio feels bad for the Cofidis rider who crashed out so early. Says the crash was caused probably because of inexperience.(don’t know since I missed it)

A lot of praise for Pantani, his old DS(?) was in the studio.
Studio regrets that Contador (and Astana) was left out, but that doesn’t diminish the race.

In a nutshell.

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 5, 2008 12:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not Pantanis DS but Ole Ritter

former World Hour Record holder. (Used to ride for same teammanager who later made it possible for Pantani to return after his bad injury)

by Jens on Jul 6, 2008 4:42 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some Ricco interview

He’s happy with his sprint today, but now he will wait until stage 6 which is his next target.
Gerard Holtz rather cruelly asked “They call you the Cobra. Why” “well, erm, my friends, well they say….”

France 2 are using an offscreen interpreter which is a bit hard to tune in to.

by Monty. on Jul 5, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Results

Results are posted over at CN. The times are wrong…but the placings seem to be correct.

1 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Caisse d’Epargne 4.00.36
2 Philippe Gilbert (Bel) Française des Jeux
3 Jérôme Pineau (Fra) Bouygues Telecom
4 Kim Kirchen (Lux) Team Columbia
5 Riccardo Riccò (Ita) Saunier Duval – Scott
6 Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence – Lotto
7 Frank Schleck (Lux) Team CSC – Saxo Bank
8 Filippo Pozzato (Ita) Liquigas
9 Oscar Freire Gomez (Spa) Rabobank
10 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse d’Epargne
11 David Millar (GBr) Team Garmin-Chipotle p/b H30
12 Juan Jose Cobo Acebo (Spa) Saunier Duval – Scott
13 Matteo Carrara (Ita) Quick Step
14 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC – Saxo Bank
15 Thor Hushovd (Nor) Crédit Agricole
16 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Team CSC – Saxo Bank
17 Andy Schleck (Lux) Team CSC – Saxo Bank
18 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Team Garmin-Chipotle p/b H30
19 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel – Euskadi
20 Stefan Schumacher (Ger) Gerolsteiner

by Hons on Jul 5, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hrm

The times may be right afterall. Though the GC and stage standing aren’t up yet at letour.fr, they do have the young rider standings up. And they have Soler only 3” behind Ricco…the same as the CN standings. Did they neutralize the last 9km?

by Hons on Jul 5, 2008 12:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CN agrees

this posted above the results:

note the finishing time appears to be incorrect. We are awaiting corrected results.

by Hons on Jul 5, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They are now

Gaps of 1-4 seconds. Not sure why…

Valverde must be pleased though. He only has to leave a small gap and he can dump the maillot jaune at his choosing. Of course, he can also simply hang onto it without defending.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Jul 5, 2008 12:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spanish Summer

was the Euro just the start of something? Or, wait, I meant the Giro.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Jul 5, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indeed.

Nadal playing against Federer tomorrow at Wimbledon….

Fantastic year for the spaniards so far!

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 5, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh

That one may be a bridge too far.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Jul 5, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are there corrected gaps?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Jul 5, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Teamsite says 4 second gap, not 4 minutes.

May need to wait until later in the day for accurate time gap info,

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it does?

where? Front page there lists the 4’56”, too. Since it was a group of four that finished last, I assumed a crash with all of them. Dunno.

by Sui Juris on Jul 5, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Take that back...

They’ve posted corrected times now too. It had said 4 secs.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He weighs 379 pounds and the road tilted slightly upwards

Or he’s dumping minutes to be less chaseworthy when he gets in a break.

by Jens on Jul 6, 2008 4:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Per Slipstream site...

He got caught behind the crash that happened and was delayed.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 6, 2008 7:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More Amstel Gold tomorrow?

Stage 2’s finish looks uphillish and tricky once again.

by ursula on Jul 5, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

There is a hill close to the end, but time to collect oneself. It was already an Oscarita stage before today’s results.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Jul 5, 2008 2:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone have the link for the SAAB versus daily word entry?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

saab

Racing for Victory and Free Beer!

by DemonCats on Jul 5, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Know the word... looking for site to enter it. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 3:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a bugger to find

You can log in here

60% of the time, it works every time.

by bethie on Jul 5, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks.

I ended up seeing it on one of the replays that was on in the background today. :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Jul 5, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Early Lanterne Rouge contenders

176. VANSEVENANT Wim 9 SILENCE – LOTTO 4h 00’ 41” + 04’ 56”
177. AUGE Stéphane 182 COFIDIS CREDIT PAR TELEPHONE 4h 00’ 41” + 04’ 56”
178. BACKSTEDT Magnus 192 GARMIN CHIPOTLE 4h 00’ 41” + 04’ 56”
179. KUSCHYNSKI Aleksandr 66 LIQUIGAS 4h 00’ 41” + 04’ 56”

Vansevenant appears to be on good form to defend his title there … must be the mountains camp he went on with Evans (apparently all of the team but Hoste and McEwen did the Stelvio training camp with Evans after only being invited but not pressured, good team-building apparently … can’t remember where I read that though, sorry).

by guidemd on Jul 5, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Belgian report

from sporza.be :
-Lotto’s Vansummeren apparently went through the rear window of a Team Columbia car – cuts only apparently.
-Devolder had a sore throat this morning, according to Lefevere, who also said that Steegmans was looking good until 500 m to go but then the climb was too much
-Monfort, in his first Tour, thinks the speed of the Tour is unbelievable.

if anyone understands Dutch/Flemish, they have video interviews with a number of riders and Lefevere … sometimes they even have English interviews (eg. Evans, Cav – unfortunately for me, McEwen is fluent in Dutch so they don’t interview him ever in English)

by guidemd on Jul 5, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And from the Lotto website

Hoste and McEwen were apparently assisting Evans to stay up at the front at the end of the stage (presumably this would be to the bottom of the climb, where afterwards McEwen lost almost a minute).

Also, now when I think about it, I remember right when I first started watching a saw a shot of Vansummeren hanging on to a car (and I see something on CN similarly), so presumably this was after he went through the windshield or whatever happened.

by guidemd on Jul 5, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he was bleeding (Vansummeren)

don’t know what’d happened to him.

by Bruce Suomi on Jul 5, 2008 3:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anyone see what happened to Feillu

He tried to make a break with about 1.5k to go, then according to the official results he came in 173rd, about 3.5 minutes down, but was given a time gap of only 52s. Was it a crash or a Millar moment?

by Monty. on Jul 5, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Valverde already on top form?

Is today’s victory indicative of him being on form too early? I personally believe that it might be. There’s a long way to go until Paris. It seems that he should have been a little off top form during the Dauphine to ensure that he would be on top form around week two or so. Maybe he can hold it, but I doubt it. I guess we’ll see. Valv Piti has never been a favorite so I can’t say I would hate to see him miscalculate and fail miserably.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We'll see

another possibility is that he’s naturally aggressive—classics rider by trade. So maybe he’s just a little more animated at the moment, but still short of his peak. Evidence says he’s peaking now though.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Jul 5, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

Maybe he knows that his form is good now and that it might not be so good later so it’s better to get the win when you can. If his form does fail him, his Tour would have already been a success, even if it’s not what he came to the Tour for. He must realistically know that his chances for the overall aren’t really that good.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 5, 2008 11:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

post-race comments

Romain Feillu: I had not planned to attack, but I sensed an opportunity when the climb began. If no one had ridden behind, it might have worked. But they came back and then, I crossed wheels with another riders. In all, I do not feel to bad.

Lillian Jégou: (most combative) One attacks to enter the game. Marc [Madiot] told us to try to stay at the front. In order to hope to stay away until the finish, it is necessary to have 10-15 minutes. They only gave us 6-7 minutes. In the end, à duex (with de la Fuente), it was hard. The machine was on the march. It was not easy, it climbs and descends all the time in Bretagne. There was lots of wind. It was better to be off the front than at the back, because of the crashes. Tomorrow, I think that there will be the same type of stage.

Riccardo Ricco: I await the mountains. I am content with my physical condition (eh, no excuses later, then, riccy). In the sprint, I was a little blocked, but it was good. I am watiing for the sixth stage (Super Besse). This year, I would like to win a stage.

Jerôme Pineau: This [Third] is a beautiful placing. The first two stages with the finishes on the bump (en bosse, cool term, that), are favorable for me. Today is encouraging for the next one. That which I was missing, was the power. When Valverde went, I was on his wheel. I was part of the best riders, but I am not the best. It is an enormous opportunity that there is no prologue. I am third in the general. If there had been a prologue, I could not hope to be in Yellow tomorrow.

Philippe Gilbert: I reached the bump after the bridge in 40th position or so, but I did not panic, I took the time to move up and I climbed into the first ten. After, I attempted to escape, I had seen that Valverde was good. I am content, because today is my birthday and I did not miss it by much. And second behind Valverde on this very difficult stage, this is not bad. Valverde surely wants the Yellow Jersey, because he has never worn it.

Silence DS, Herman Frison: Valverde has won well, but this does not pose a problem for us that he takes the MJ, because everyone knew before the start that this was a stage that favored him to win. There remain three weeks until Paris and in several days, there is the CLM in Cholet. The most important, it sto have the maillot in Paris. Cadel was good today, he was strong in the last few kms, we told him to stay at the front and to take his chance.

source, l’equipe.fr

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lillian Jégou, again.

This was a stage on which I could hope for victory and which of course had extra value because there was the maillot jaune. In the last 50 kilometers, in Vannes, I rode on roads that I know by heart, on which I ride all the time in training. But unhappily, this did not suffice. All the same, I have a good feeling, because we were enormously encouraged along the way. I never regret having taking my chance, and I know also that there will be other stages.

by gavia on Jul 5, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awwww,

look at the riders having fun on their bikes.

(hit refresh if the link doesn’t seem to work, if that fails, then I give up)

by Katiek on Jul 5, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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