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Evans' Dilemma

Defending.

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How to do it with so much of the race left to go.  But there it is: the pre-race favorite is even more of a favorite right now it seems.

In some ways Cadel Evans' task after this first time trial has similarities to Alberto Contador's task after the first Giro time trial:

- Both Evans and Bert had rivals that could potentially equal them in the remaining time trials but there were no riders who were/are superior.

-Similarly while neither Cadel nor the Giro Bert were the best climbers in their races, they are/were good enough to stay with most of their rivals' attacks.

In other words, Cadel's strategy to close out this Tour could be likened to Contador's winning strategy in the Giro: stay close on the mountains and kill 'em in the chrono. It may yet play out that way but to my mind Evans has a harder task than Contador in making that strategy stick and for several reasons:

1) Bert's 1st TT didn't happen until day 10; there were only 11 stages yet to play out with two more time trials(one a mountain TT), one hilly stage, and five mountain stages. Cadel of course has just finished only stage four; he still has 16 stages to go (I'm not counting the last ceremonial stage) with only one time trial, two hilly stages,  and five mountain stages. Yes they have the same number of mountain stages.  The important things here however are that 1) there's much more milage still to come in the Tour and 2) there's only one TT left for Cadel even though its a long one. More stages mean more chances for Evans' rivals to attack him.

2) Contador had a much stronger team.  Obvious, ain't it?  Even with Kloden and Leipheimer not at the top of their form Contador had all kinds of help.  By contrast we should expect to see Evans isolated every day the road turns up, even in the hills as he has almost no support. 

The problem about the Popo for Horner "trade" that *Lotto did was not just that Popo's temperament seems different than Evans' is that Evans needs BOTH Popo and Horner. To illustrate this better look at Astana's performance in the Giro or Disco's performance in last year's Tour.  Both teams had not only multiple riders who could climb but those riders had different temperaments and different strengths on how to climb those mountains.  Bert not only had more matches but the matches burned in different ways that could be brought to bear on different stages and hills. Colom rides differently than Kloden, who is different than Leipheimer, who is different than Gusev, etc.  Last year Popo had a unique personality that fit Disco perfectly to the tune of an 8th place GC finish.

Last year also Evans had little support but the support he had, Horner, at least was of similar temperament to Evans: slow, steady, relentless.  Popo is too electric, too variable for Evans IMO. Evans' chances would be much greater if he had both Horner and Popovych to provide different types of support. Instead he only has the wort option of the two. I can only imagine Devolder being a poorer fit for Evans' super domestique.

3) Evans' rivals are much closer to him than Contador's rivals ever were.

Within two minutes of Evans right now are Kirchen (actually ahead by 12 seconds), Vandevelde (- 12), Nibali (- 37), Menchov (-51), Devolder (-57), Monfort (-1:02), Cunego (-1:04),  Valverde (-1:06), A Schleck (-1:08), Sanchez (-1:10),  Bruseghin (-1:20), Astarloza (-1:21) and Sastre (-1:22).

By contrast after stage 10, Contador faced these GC rivals: Bruseghin (-54), teammate Kloden (-56), Nibali (-1:05), Savoldelli (-1:10), Ricco (-1:31), Di Luca (-1:32), Menchov (-1:58), Simoni & Leipheimer (-2:11), Pellizotti (-2:16), Van Den Broeck (-2:42) and Sella (-2:43).

Clearly Contador had more of a working margin.  He had a cushion that Evans can only dream of. From stage 14 on (the 1st mountain stage in the Giro there were only 10 riders at the end of any give stage combined who were ever less than 1 minute behind Contador and seven of those were Ricco after each stage.  Hopefully that last sentence made sense but it means that only Ricco seriously threatened Contador after stage 10.  Now can you truly imagine all of Evans' rivals falling away like that?  'Course not. He already has 5 riders within a minute.

I know that many of you right now are thinking, "so-and-so has no chance against Evans!  Why even include him in this discussion?"  Well stop jumping to those conclusions and remember how the Giro played out after stage 10.  Riders who we thought were money to be on the platform weren't while others faded away.  No one could cover Sella; no one here at Podium Cafe expected Sella to break out like he did. What if the 12th placed Tour guy I've listed here goes Sella on the Tour field?  That would be Astarloza who is over a minute and 20 seconds closer to Evans than Sella was to Contador.  Okay you don't like Astarloza?  Then take Sastre only 1 second behind Astarloza- he is definitely capable of going Sella on the field.

And that's the thing.  We all expect all of these riders to have a bad day in the mountains.  But I think we have that backwards and how we should be thinking of this is like this: There are 13 really good riders very close to Evans on time and the odds say that at least one of them is gonna not only not crack in the mountains on any stage but do quite well.  Probably two.  We have no idea who but if you look at those Giro contenders and saw how they played out you can;t eliminate any of those 13 yet.  Sure we can find reasons to eliminate all of the Tour contenders but the odds are that 1-2 of them will beat our rationalizations.

4) Contador's biggest rivals were poor in the chrono. Ricco. Di Luca. Sella. 'Nuff said. The same can't be said for all of Evans' rivals.  

5) No one is gonna help the favorite.  What we saw in the Dolphin race with Leipheimer not helping Evans we will see again in this Tour unless Evans truly falls behind.

 

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I am not saying that Evans will lose.  I think he's still the fave. He's so solid.  He's just not the cast-iron fave that he seems right now because he's gonna be under pressure from all angles.  He doesn't have the team to cover many breakaways and he's still got most of the race to go. In some ways his position reminds me of Landis in 06 where Landis had to give up the lead as he didn't have the team who could protect it.  The question then is: can Evans get the lead back (or I should say get it for the first time since Kirchen is ahead of him)?

We don't know yet who his main rivals will be (although we all have guesses). The point here is that he does have rivals and that his race to win is a lot more uncomfortable than Contador's was in the Giro. That means that this Tour is wide open still.  

 

Duh.

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Fantastic Write Up

I think the sensible thing would be what he did last year. People attack, he just rides his own tempo and claws his way back to the riders that count. He can’t stop the attacks, that’s just not possible. I do think that dropping Evans for good is a monumental task. He is very strong willed and has a HUGE engine, as witnessed last year. The thing is, I don’t think Sastre or Menchov can beat him and I know that Kirchen and Valverde can’t. The rest? Who knows. I think that people better have AT LEAST 2 minutes in hand before the last time trial or Cadel is going to win.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 8, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mountains

Great write-up, however I am not convinced that Evans will be able to hold his time in the high mountains. Sastre and the Schleck brothers will be able to play many tactical cards to help isolate him and possibly take huge gaps in some of the more difficult stages, like 17. If he marks Sastre and allows one of the Schleck brothers to gain huge gaps, CSC could switch their focus. Team CSC has been lying low in the first few stages, just like Silence-Lotto, and look super-strong to me.

by bryan_e on Jul 8, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not going to happen

Neither Schleck is consistent enough yet to win the Tour so I don’t think Cadel has to worry about them. Plus, nobody is going to let the Schlecks go up the road and open up some huge gap.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 8, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed About the Mountains

My lasting image of Evans from last year is him losing ground on Stage 16 — losing time to Levi who was dropped, tentative, but came back to pass him anyway with under 5k to go. Weird stage what with the chicken drama, the waving off of the motorcycles, etc. Still. Evans didn’t quit have it in him, not sure he will this year either.

Also, I think someone may need to explain this whole Schleck thing to me. ;)

by mychal on Jul 9, 2008 12:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Remember that Contador had Vino and Rasmussen

taking the pressure off until, oh, Stage 15 or 16. He wasn’t the favorite - not even necessarily on his own team. He had the spotlight only when he did well, battling Rasmussen in the mountains. - that is, only when he was performing well. A much healthier recipe than the one Evans is faced with.

by NE Observer on Jul 8, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As usual, nice overview.

There are some real wildcards in this group, and the one that intrigues me the most is Monfort. He can TT reasonably well, and it will be interesting to see if he can really go apeshit in the high mountains. I believe this is his first Tour, and if he finishes in the top ten I think we’ve got the makings of another GT stud who will make future three week races very interesting, not only for Contador, but all the other up and coming young guns ( A. Schlek, Ricco, Dekker, etc.).

One thing is for sure – to take this from Evans someone is going to have to go on the offensive in the mountains. I think it goes without saying that both Valverde and Sastre will make the attempt. Who will join them?

by The Team Chef on Jul 8, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm looking at Monfort too

I’ll think he’ll make some noise

by ursula on Jul 8, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Giving Monfort too much credit

Really, make some noise and do something? Not a chance. Also, who in their right mind would help Valv Piti or Sastre. I don’t see them getting any help on the road.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 8, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why so down on Monfort.

Look, he’s young and talented. I’m not suggesting that he is going to win this Tour, but why would you say he has no chance when he is such a great climber. Let’s wait and see. I’m only suggesting that he could have some cards to play in the mountains, as he has demonstrated some incredible talent in this area. I think it’s fair to say he made some noise by finishing 16th in today’s stage, finishing ahead of many far more experienced guys.

Also, who in their right mind would help Valverde or Sastre? How about anyone who has aspirations of finishing ahead of Evans.

by The Team Chef on Jul 8, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not down on Monfort

Just being realistic. Wait until he shows us something first before proclaiming that he’s going to do something. I haven’t really seen much yet. Also, if someone helps Valverde or Sastre, they might finish ahead of Evans, but they’ll still be finishing behind Valverde or Sastre, so the only thing they might get would be a stage victory. Which I admit would be awesome.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 8, 2008 11:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm excited 'bout Monfort

He’s one of the kids I’m interested in watching this Tour. Fab talent, though it’s early days. For me, the kids are always exciting, because you never know when they’re going to get that first big result. Could be this Tour, could be next. Certo, Lovkvist is off to a good start. And I really liked Nibali’s ride today, too.

by gavia on Jul 8, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It depends on what scale you use

Spun Out, you seem to judge riders on a Lance-scale. Will they dominate the TTs and crush everyone on the climbs? If so they are worthy of credit, if not ,they have yet to show something. Sort of a blunt scale.

This is Monforts first Tour so of course he’s not going top be anywhere near the top of the CG but he still looks to be heading for an impressive debut and he sure looks like a rider with the qualities of a future top Tour-rider.

by Jens on Jul 9, 2008 3:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually I was never a Lance fan

What I mean by doing something is riding with/around the big guys in the mountains, not necessarily in front of them and consistency in the time trials. DiGregorio has been talked up quite a bit but I’m not impressed with him either. Doing something in smaller races and riding well is one thing, but not comparable with the GTs. If Monfort finishes and rides consistently in the mountains and time trials then I will start to be impressed, but not before then. I’m not saying he has to ride top 10 or anything, just consistently.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 9, 2008 10:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't let this go.

Monfort finished 11th is last year’s Vuelta, only his 2nd GT. He finished 5th on the Covadonga mountain stage in the same time as Menchov and Piepoli. He was 14th in the long 52K TT ( 40 sec. behind Evans), and 9th in the 20K TT (only 9 sec. behind Evans).

His recent 14th place in the Tour’s first TT certainly has demontrated some consistency against the clock.

This guy is 25, has been a pro since ‘04, and has shown steady progression. They’ve been very careful to make sure he’s not had undue pressure to succeed. All I’m saying is that he is absolutely one of the top young GT prospects, and deserves a litlle more credit than your giving him.

by The Team Chef on Jul 9, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Minor correction.

Looks like Maxime was 16th in yesterday’s TT.

by The Team Chef on Jul 9, 2008 1:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't have to let it go

That’’s fine. But, I’m not buying it. I put forth my criteria. That’s what I require. Anything short of that is just another talented bike rider riding in the peloton, just like all the other people riding in the Tour.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Jul 9, 2008 2:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i want remember

the last perfect move from Astana in Giro. The early breakaway from Rubiera? (a spanish for sure) to wait for Contador in the last climb. This was perfect because Astana didn’t has more guys to help Contador, only Rubiera. Ok, but it result much better if the stage don’t finish in a climb (only 9 and 18 stage in Tour)

I think Evans should do the same of helping, with Cioni or Aerts, and resting Popo one day.
I think it was a mistake leaving Popovych do a TT like this, he until Pirineus’s begin, should be a threat for GC, will be much more helper for Evans if that is the case.

I don’t see a Jose Azevedo leading until few guys left, and after, Evans look back above his shoulder, and attack for victory!!!

by semprenaroda on Jul 8, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was Colom

Astana sent up the road in the Giro – so you were right on the spanish front.

by Rothko on Jul 9, 2008 7:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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