Stage 5, Cholet - Chateauroux... LIVE!
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 2:00 AM EDT
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Gerolsteiner's big test today.
The motivations of grand tour teams make things pretty interesting at times. As opposed to classics, where every man jack is completely dedicated to either winning or setting up a teammate to win, in grand tours each day brings a mix of objectives. Today, Gerolsteiner will be somewhat desperate to retain the yellow jersey, an unexpected windfall for a team who came to the Tour with modest hopes.
Their biggest nemesis will almost certainly be the inevitable breakaways, who will be racing with extra incentive today... because all of the GC teams will be desperate to do as little as possible. Assuming there is a break, it will be largely up to Gerolsteiner to shut it down, with only faint hopes of help from the sprinters' teams.
The sprinters' teams include teams who won't want to work due to other concerns (Rabo, Silence); teams with tough choices to make in that regard (Columbia); and teams with little help to offer (Barloworld). That leaves Credit Agricole and Quick Step as possible allies.
Fortunately, Gerolsteiner have cards to play: Kohl and Lang are both under 2' back on GC, and capable of joining/covering breaks. Markus Fothen is 3' back as well. So, with enough attentiveness, they may keep things under control after all. Fun? Well, it's no Tour of Flanders, but it will make for good drama today. Enjoy!
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Soler abandons
Sorry boys and girls, JM Soler crashed again today at the start of the stage and then said “Screw you guys, I’m going home..”
Less fireworks in the KOM competition but it did seem unlikely that he would have done himself justice anyway though.
1 point
If I’m not wrong that’s all he earned in the season. The season was looking good after Liege… my worst VDS pick of the season.
by King of Doping on Jul 9, 2008 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Soler has left the building.
“Le vainqueur du maillot à pois 2007, victime d’une chute dans la première étape, vient d’abandonner”
Bork, bork, bork!
Look on the bright side
At least he enjoyed a stellar Giro….......um…....wait a minute…........
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Wow... another chute victim
When Leipheimer is done mating with his Time Trialing bike... does he bite its head off and eat it?
All French breakaway with 6 minute gap
Lilian Jegou (FRA), Francaise des Jeux
Florent Brard (FRA), Cofidis
Nicolas Vogondy (FRA), Agritubel
Probably not an attractive job
to go in the break when the sprint teams have been yelled at by their DS’s for two days for not pulling the Feillu-break back on Monday. They is going to be hungry today.
With Soler out, Ricco would be an idiot not to go for the KOM
Only thing is I don’t think his ego can stand being out there all day chasing points only to get dropped by inferior riders (and let’s face it, they’re all inferior) at the end.
I can honestly see Ricco sitting back with the leaders
And then beating them on mountain top finishes just so he can shoot off his mouth about his climbing ability. No way he takes early fliers and goes for the KOM when he can jaw at Cadel, VV, Sastre and whoever else is in the yellow jersey group.
Doubt a guy as small
and skinny like Ricco will ever be able to win the tour. Loses too much time in the TTs and tires quiker on the flats, in the Giro they often take it more tranquilo on the flat stages.
Valverde involved in a crash
He has apparently been to the medical car to have his knee examined.
Nikki
Just wanted to let you know that Nikki had her appendics removed late last night. She is in the hospital but should be out today. Cheer for her guys for her.
Only a real cycling fan
would crash out like that in July. And if her doctor understands, he will have her sitting back at her keyboard and screen in another couple of hours, even as the last few stitches are going in. “Ignore that, doctor, it’s just a little blood.”
Please pass on best wishes from all here.
too funny
I am talking to her now and she is giggling away. She has on her HTFU braclet.
it was all those exclamation points, I bet
Maybe she’ll be a little more careful with them in the future.
(cue The More You Know music and rainbow)
Ok - she gets today off
But tomorrow she’d better be back online. Otherwise we’ll have to send Jens in the early stage break.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Didn't Hamilton
finish the Giro with a burst appendix?
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
tell her get well soon!
we really can’t go too many days without her. we’d be lost :-)
gav <— not really awake
Tell her no looking at Benna..
... until she’s fully recovered… Doctor’s Orders.
When Leipheimer is done mating with his Time Trialing bike... does he bite its head off and eat it?
chapeau nikki! Excellent timing
imagine being stuck home in a month without cycling. The horror.
Go Team Zoe!
Cavendish, Di Gregorio, Fothen, Kirchen
, Kreuziger, Lowe, Siutsou
, Ten Dam
, Y.Trofimov and Vandevelde
You guys are so funny.
I did not realiize this was in the live thread. Trying to get caught up tonight. Love being home but missing the injected pain meds as those were dreamy like. Last night when my friends brought my laptop I quickly got them on board with Benna and the crew here. So fun. :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Separate diary
one of her friends posted a fanpost about her, a great place to post well-wishes and pictures of her favorite hot guys.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Sympathy to the right
Here we just poke fun. Wonder which thread will be the biggest?
Get well soon Nikki...
Will I get booted off this thread if my post conveys sympathy and well wishes!!?
All the best Nikki and I hope you’re on the mend
Rebecca
You won't get booted
since you control our Ctv accounts…........but you may get heckled ;-)
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
At least she was smart enough
to get sick on a likely sprint day that is also the longest distance. Think of all the VS filler pieces she’ll miss! How clever!
Holy Crap... It's Rebecca!
I don’t think Nikki will mind if I take a moment on her Sympathy thread to say … long time no see!
When Leipheimer is done mating with his Time Trialing bike... does he bite its head off and eat it?
Thanks Rebecca!
Been missing you lately. I hope the vacation was a good one.
We need some updates from you and Crashdan – I hope you update your site soon with some more pics!
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
according to biciciclismo.com
Liquigas will soon announce that they are leaving the ProTour for next season.
Protour is going down
like a iron-clad parrot
by Capisce on Jul 9, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Idiom
of the month.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah... I bet that analogy is frighteninly appropriate though...
... it can’t fly, but man, once it’s on the ground, it’s gonna take forever to just put that damn thing out of it’s misery.
When Leipheimer is done mating with his Time Trialing bike... does he bite its head off and eat it?
Is that any surprise
Basso or ProTour? They chose when they signed him up.
by Monty. on Jul 9, 2008 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I bet they decided against PT before they even thought about Basso
The who PT thing requires such an insanely larger budget.
For what?
Nadda . . . or phonetically in Chinese – mayo
poor nikki
Doctors say she will have to be home for 2 weeks. how nice
I believe this was her cereal of choice on Monday - worked like a charm too
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Oh that looks yummy. :-)
I’m thinking if I can get an infection going, I will be good through the Tour and be looking for for heading into the Vuelta! Tee hee! :-)
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
Yah
“there have been some minor complications which will extend her rest through stage 21… I mean Sunday.”
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Chris
Is it too late to throw myself down the stairs like I used to?
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
most definitely
not
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm pushing for the 2 weeks and then I magically have vacation
days to cover the few missed with medical leave. ha!
I told Will this morning in an email I hope I get bumped up into the top runnings for best fan ever as I think going to this extreme to watch him and C on tv for two weeks should be worth something. :-) LOL!
"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."
A brillant display of season planning
She is officially now on track to peak for these next two weeks!
A rookie, like myself, should be taking notes.
This entire will be inundated with giggles, Garmen did you know trivia, and hotitude updates.
Her performance is going to go through the roof!
good job showing riders relieving themselves
hooray tour cameramen
by Burgundy and Gold on Jul 9, 2008 9:12 AM EDT reply actions
Versus streaming via cyclingfans.com
This is cool! In addition to their other streams, cyclingfans.com has Versus streaming now.
I’ve actually been missing Paul and Phil since i don’t have cable anymore (yes, it’s true), LOL!
Diane
Gerol
looks like they were trying to cut a deal with CA.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
peloton zooming along through the fields
No breakaways today
Eh?
Are you watching the same race? Am I watching the same race?
no breakaways will succeed today
I meant to say
The key
they’re all French. The break will be tragically caught at the line. Everyone goes home happy.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Burghardt on the front
Good to see him here at the Tour.
Maybe he will get me some VDS points later in the race…
Excellent way to pass the time until things heat up
David Millar wrote a diary entry this morning on the chaos that happened on Stage 3 when the peloton split into three. It’s a great read and gives exceptional insight into the chaos of a race that the cameras don’t catch.
Wow!
This little bit caught my eye:
I did 4.1 km in 4mins 12secs averaging 533 watts at an average speed of 58.7km/h
That’s amazing.
Wow
That’s called burning some matches.
Great first week… today’s the first “meh” stage.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Right around WR pace for the 4K pursuit
He was working his ass off to be sure. I also loved the fact that the last 50m to the junction seemed like 10K. Anyone who’s ever raced has been in that depressing position, right gang?
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
I'm in it
right now.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
Thought that might get a reaction out of you. Still waiting to hear from Chris and Gavia.
I think R Mc is a hardman and is smart enough to stay out of this position ;-)
Anyone else?
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
And Chris checks in.........
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
ha!
si…. so depressingly true. they’re freakin’ right there. how come i can’t get across tot hat wheel? it’s not that far. sigh.
In addition
you start having that conversation with your legs, alternating between praising them for their efforts and cursing them for lack of progress.
“Stupid legs! Work harder or I swear to Christ I will cut you off when we get home!”
Surprisingly this threat has never worked.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
It's only bad when they start to argue back at you.
As you should be well aware, your legs are apart of a very strong union and therefore cannot really be threatened.
Hahaha . . . .
That's why
the badger was such a good cyclist. As we saw the other day, he has no patience for unions.
Indeed
Except it’s a situation where you just lost the wheel to begin with…
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
What if
they start talking back? Then you’re really faaked.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Fortunately
Most of the races that I do are circuits/crits, so when I get popped off the back I simply pretend that I am just that far off the front. By the end of the collegiate season my team was prepared to write “Does not play well with others” on my report card.
"oh! mechanical!"
See you boys next lap!
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The only time I did that
when I crashed at Rutgers, the next lap was a prim lap so I never was able to get back on.
I caught that hand sling
during the race and wondered who it was as it went by too fast to see. Great team work.
lots of heat shimmer on the road
Does anyone know what the temps are there?
morning folks
looks like we finally get a field sprint today
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39.7 km to go, 1.53 the gap
Jegou <—he was in the break on stage 1
brard
vogondy <—french national champion
the break
And seemingly
with no way of getting to the door. Not that I saw.
Mausoleum?
Castle of ill repute?
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
From what I understood
It’s now owned by some Taiwanese who fell in love with it from a couple of photos.
As I am currently living in Taiwan . . .
. . . I highly doubt that.
It may be true, but highly unlikely
Taiwan
I hear the riding there is outstanding. A guy was telling me about his visits there with FSA people. Of course, he borrowed the Giant TCR they had lying around for guests.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
The riding here is epic
Think Italian roads in, but in Hawaii.
Crazy fun road riding.
As for MTBing, there is really not much of that yet, but they are building that up as well.
What FSA guy were your talking to?
I probably know him.
Alternatively
they used some French word I don’t understand which sounds a bit like Taiwan. Both are possible.
McEwen/Evans team support
Ha.. Whenever there’s an interview with Robbie, he complains that he doesn’t get complete team support. Whenever there’s an interview with Cadel, he complains that he doesn’t get complete team support.
Tough job for Lotto to do leadouts and support Cadel.
Yeah, but Zabel never complained . . .
. . .he just won a bunch of stages and filled his closet with a bunch of green shirts.
My thoughts exactly
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
He did complain
After he got the 6th green jersey, Godefroot & Kummer left Lombardi (or Fagnini, I forget who he had then) off the squad, giving Jan all their support.
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Yeah true, but by then Godefroot had gone all crazy about beating Bruyneel w/Lance and Co.
I happen to think that decision was BS too, but whatcha gonna do?
Nice thing about days like today
is that I can watch the tour and win domesticity points. I got up and turned the stage on at 5:30 and while things putted along I made coffee, a simple breakfast (bacon, watermelon pieces, toast), and lunches for us. Now I’m ready for work, got my coffee, and can sit back and listen to Phil & Paul. The SO appreciates the efforts, but vastly prefers the CTV announcers to P&P.
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steegmans
expects to work with gerolsteiner during this stage. says that it’s been nervous racing – no prologue, no time bonuses. france 2 guys think he’s a good pick for today.
pre-race interview.
Wilfred Pieters (sp?)
QS DS just interviewed in the car. QS will probably start working at 10k to go. His favourite for the stage is Cavendish. All the Fr2 commentators agree.
sprinter teams massing at the front
field is moving along pretty well and gap is dropping.
peeters
talking about the sprinters – cavendish is good, so is mcewen. eh, lost the sounds…. we will take our chance.
interview in the car with peeters, ds quickstep. his french was hard for me to follow though.
I watched
Bienvenue Chez Les Ch’Tis a couple of times to warm myself up for the Tour.
gap = 1.36, 34.5 km to go
agree, some action at the front.
moving faster… there’s robbie mac near the front.
Cavendish is my pick
although I don’t know anything about the finish. Is it a straight run in, or technical?
Are there any teams willing to do set-up work
besides high road?
Liquigas and QS seem willing to drive the pace, but both are cagey enough not to work hard to set up Hushovd and McEwen when their teams can’t be bothered to actually work for the stage win.
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riders at the front 18 mph
I’d say they’ve had enough.
Commerical probably wouldn't work
so well with a dead one.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
I know, I know
couldn’t resist being a prick ;-)
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Right
No more snarkitude from me this morning. Tomorrow morning is a whole ‘nother issue though.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
F that
Super Besse. Back to business tomorrow.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Chris knows me
way to well Gav. Sadly he is correct :-(
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Hello, hello, hello...
What’d I miss?
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
Not a thing
except VV crashed out and Soler is on a breakaway.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Breakaway to the couch?
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
standard sprint stage
24.5 km to go, 1.39 the gap
vogondy, brard and jegou up the road
also, some snark, some chateaux, and some pasture art
While we're all waiting
You’ve seen the LAist story about the 4th of July road rage, yes? At least we know the perp will pay. (Dearly, I bet.)
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
Link please? Have not heard about this.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Hope that fucker gets prosecuted
for attempted murder.
Assault with a deadly weapon
was what I heard.
The only reason that the charges are happening though is that he was delivered a warning a few months back after a civil suit was filed.
which reminded me that I should
make an effort to get plates and take the time to complain, instead of giving the finger.
good point
I still am thinking about posting such information on line.
Side note...
Did you hear about the cyclist that was killed yesterday morning in Dupont at R and 20th?
And also
talking cows apparently.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Slow stage today
has JV on Twitter saying he is talking to two riders for ‘09-’10. And wants guesses to who they are.
that would make some sense actually
they already have maaskant. and he’s unhappy with his current team…
bah, fragile prima donna
I’m hoping they can bag one of Columbia’s excess sprinters or a good classics hand.
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Ditto
Was thinking that last night when reading a thread about his ongoing communications to Rabobank via Lawyers.
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
The last throws of the break
Now they are riding again.
12 km to go
inkling of a leadout forming at the front with Liqui getting involved.
thanks for the info 'bout TeamSlipstream on Twitter
they’ve got a great feed!
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Chavanel blocking
like the Tuesday night crit riders.
JV saying
he will use Martijn, Magnus and Dean as his sprint team but will need some luck to beat out Cav & Chicchi
7 km to go, no real leadout yet....
just lots of pressure
Here we go 5 km coming up fast
Columbia making the leadout
chute!
Passeron. Everyone OK?
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
Burghardy at the head of the spear
looks over for help
Columbia
all over the front. LIQ coming up with Chicchi.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
Still 20" for the break,
but coming down.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
Chute!
Gerol rider… Haussler, looks not so good.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
I'll call
Freire. WTH?
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
here comes Oscar
on the left of the field
3 km to go
Kirchen 5th wheel
Just sayin
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions
FDJ
bringing up Seb Chavanel
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by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
the break is just ahead
They will be caught at 1km
oscar marking KK
Z
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
oh oh oh
one breakaway rider still off the front!
The catch?
Vogondy attacking, but futile.
under the red kite!
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
KK leading out
Cavendish their man.
Vogondy leaking oil
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
I don't understand
why the riders keep stopping like that every few seconds – oh wait it’s just the jerky feed. :)
downhill finish
here they come!!! 300 meters! He’s toast….
Ciolek in the lead
and stays there!
Freire maybe 2nd
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
Now that is a shock
although the columbia sleaves look oddly like German champ stripes
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It was cavendish
he’s the fastest man in the peloton by far, nice downhill finish for him
Cavendish it is!
Looks like robbie nubbed Zabel for 2nd place points
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Robbie
where was he exactly?
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Lotto did the right thing
Lotto was smart to not support Robbie with riders this time around. I’m sure they weren’t too surprised by today and him not being around at the end.
If I just had one more gear, I...
Make that Cavendish
Thor 0n the right, Freire on Cavendish’s wheel. Thor couldn’t close, and Freire never came around. Meanwhile Zabel snuck into 2nd
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
Great job for Columbia
They led it out and took the win. Nobody could stop them.
vogondy
it was close. did you have a chance when you attacked in the last km? i saw the bunch behind me and i thought well, i’ll try. said there was wind.
Good show for Cavendish
He’s always been quick, today he was fast as well.
I still want to call Columbia Telekom, however.
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Thor Smash!
He looks good in green, but I’m still annoyed that CA refuses to do much in the way of work.
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Are u serious?
CA has worked 100km to keep the breakeways in distance.. Rabobank, Silence Lotto and Barloworld are the one how we haven’t see
Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.
I saw Gerol, Liquigas, & QS
up front but no green weenies. I must have missed them. Still, their reputation for leaching off of other teams and not pulling their weight has been well earned and will be hard to get rid of. As I’ve said, it is hard not to be a fan of Thor, but CA is equally hard to root for. The way they stuck by Saul was heartwarming, but I just don’t like the way they race.
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Don't know it u have sucht statistics
But on 20km to go I saw a picture with how has worked at front
Credit Agricole has 35% or something like that
GST 55%
and anothe squad probably THR 10&
Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.
Me too
I didn’t watch much, but whenever I looked they were up there.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Jul 9, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
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