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by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 1:53 PM EDT in The Feedbag Comment 97 comments

Just a few random notes that won't merit inclusion in Gavia's next Gossip column...

Love the D-Tour homepage. That's a beautiful picture of T-Mobile in team time trial mode on the cover. Regrets, anyone?

Also, apologies to our German fans, but I can't help having a little fun with language this week. First, gender roles: where else but in Germany is there a "king stage"? Also, subtlety doesn't translate very well. For stage 1, the official preview says:

king stage, hill arrival; suspense guaranteed

Literally? Can they do that? I know it's one of the best-run races in the world and all. It goes on like this, til you get to the final, concluding time trial:

flat, the overall winner will literally be chosen in the last minute

Literally. Hey, don't say you weren't warned. Anyway, the D-Tour is a fabulous race, and its manageable 9 days run concurrently with the first week of the Vuelta. Which means the most common question put to team directors from riders this week is "don't you think the D-Tour fits my program perfectly?"

Five VDS points to whoever can find the longest German word on the D-Tour website. And it has to be at least 16 letters long, since I'm starting the contest with "Einschränkungen" from the front page.

My next posts, time pending: team breakdowns for the D-Tour and Vuelta, as well as an update on the VDS situation. Plus, a Quick-Challenge for the Vuelta.

Meanwhile, Team Columbia rolls on. Today Edvald Boasson Hagen won his first road stage at Cycling's top level, and his fourth victory in Columbia/High Road colors. His other wins include two time trials and a sprint over Jimmy Casper in a French continental race. Pretty awesome little resume for a first-year 21-y.o., though Boonen and Bennati left the race yesterday. Andre Greipel, fourth today, holds the overall lead by 11" over time trial ace Jose Ivan Gutierrez, who himself is looking good for his second consecutive overall title.

Update: one last item, Versus' Garmin-Chipotle Tour tribute video...

Garmin/Chipotle Tour de France Presentation (via eseliga)

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even Boonen praised Edvald Boasson Hagen before he left

a lot of talent, Columbia got quite an outstanding team!

by King of Doping on Aug 26, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hintergrundinformationen

24 letters of pure Deutschy goodness

by Jimbo... on Aug 26, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

ooh

way to throw down. Where is it?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Jens! interview

last paragraph

by Jimbo... on Aug 26, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hard to beat that word...

… but look at this article. Check out the list of words that appear in that article…

Sportveranstaltung
Schlüsselanhänger (double umlaut score)
Promotionkarawane
Organisationsfahrzeuge

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Präsentationsmöglichkeit

24 letters plus double umlauts. Located here…

Also contains the gems: Unterhaltungsprogramm, Verkehrsinformationen, Interessengemeinschaft , Zweiradgesellschaft, Umsetzungsmöglichkeiten, Vermarktungskonzeption

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Umlauts

are not a tiebreaker. However, ß counts double.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what?! no umlaut points.

that’s just not right.

i really like the Umsetzungsmöglichkeiten, myself

by gavia on Aug 26, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

especially with mustard

by lyne on Aug 26, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha!

it’s all about the mustard…

by gavia on Aug 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a book at home with cutaway drawings of various Star Wars space ships...

… and then I have the exact same book except published in German. You would not believe some of the things they had to come up with in there to explain things like “lightspeed drive” or “blasters”. It’s something along the lines of “sternlichtgeshwindichkeitsbewegungsmotorgebau”

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so heart the german lego words

by gavia on Aug 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"and then I have the exact same book except published in German"?

…another peek behind the crashdan curtain…

by itswells on Aug 26, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's wild coincidence I assure you...

… gifts from opposite ends of the family that mistook my interest in Science Fiction as an indepth interest in Star Wars. What they DIDN’T know about, was the (shamefully large) collection of Star Trek space ship blueprints I own. I have a vision one day, of owning a house that’s large enough to have a “blue print room” where all of those, and my blueprint of the Graf Zeppelin, Golden Gate Bridge, etc will be framed and hung.

Of course, living in Los Angeles, I first have a vision of owning a house… by which I mean a townhouse… by which I mean a starter condo… by which I mean a loft… by which I mean a loft in Compton.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

would you settle for

a cardboard box in compton? that might be doable…

sigh… i so heart me some cali.

by gavia on Aug 26, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cardboard Box in Compton...

… or a doublewide in Bayview-Hunters Point

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Suddenly property here doesn't look so bad...

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 26, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about a brand new condo south of Market?

Check this out. Only $250K. Such a deal…

by Jimbo... on Aug 27, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's insane.

I am so niave at housing prices outside the midwest. And incomes. Wow.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 27, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

san fran

take a little tour

or, peruse the rentals on craigslist

welcome to cali ;-)

by gavia on Aug 27, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again - INSANE!

Quite the difference from here.

I realize, having my brother in HI, that incomes and real estate are vastly different all over the place but to really think about a place the size of my bedroom selling for the value of my entire house, wow. Although I think it would be cool to correlate my salary here to out there as that would be kind of a kick but the house comparisons, just really… wow.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 27, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trust me... the salary doesn't garner a "wow" differential...

Housing is three to five times more expensive here than it is in the midwest, but I know I’m not making that kind of scratch… either that or the IT Directors in St. Louis are working second jobs at TGI Friday’s (with flair of course).

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 27, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what he said.

by gavia on Aug 27, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I have to say

I went and did a salary ranking on my position (sort of as mine’s not listed exactly) and the jump wasn’t quite as high as the housing might suggest it would be. Holy crap as I keep saying. I think my brother has better options with his house in HI.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 27, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"We're not in Kansas anymore"

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Aug 28, 2008 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

there are currently 139 houses in Pittsburgh

on the market for $20,000 to $30,000. Example or this. And what does $250K buy? You can actually get an overpriced condo here, too. Or this. Or this.

For 70K less, you can be my neighbor (this is, after all, the home city of Mr. Rodgers.)

Telecommute, anyone?

by JFS_PGH on Aug 28, 2008 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sigh...

mind you, I didn’t play with this at all to pull up these prices… this is just how it is within 2 square miles of my house… behold… single family homes.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 28, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you can afford those out there...

Why are earth would you not move this way for these mansions?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 28, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmmm

i think maybe it would be a long commute from chicago to my favorite point break. but i could be wrong…

lots of reasons to live here. trade-offs in everything.

by gavia on Aug 28, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Build Equity"....

Bwaaaaaahahaaahahahhaaahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 27, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is cheap actually

by lyne on Aug 27, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

definition of "is"

Ok Chris, what does “on the website” mean? Does this include the contents of, say, PDF downloads? Or is this restricted just to html?

And, dang, Akkreditierungsformular is just 24 letters.

-Greg

by gregm on Aug 26, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's just say

if you come up with an elaborate argument why those downloads are on the website, I guarantee you I won’t prepare an elaborate response.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tour of Britain

FYI, was thinking of putting a Tour of Britain preview together for next week, unless someone else has one in the pipeline. It’s their Tour de France and deserves to be taken seriously.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Aug 26, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely!

This is what community blogging is all about: finding people to cover 3-4 major races simultaneously. If Cavendish is going, interest will be high.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can't help but smile

at the comparison – bless the Tour of Britain, but I think it’s being very generous to say it’s our TdF (slightly different scale and different attitude towards it from most of the public) – it’ll probably only get some attention this year because of the success of the cyclists in the Olympics and Cav’s success in the Tour – the attention is a good thing mind, I’m not saying it isn’t.

Anyway, I’ll stop rambling and look forward to reading your preview. Also looking forward to seeing the end of the Tour of Britain here in my home town…will have to go and see Stuey and the other Sexy Bank boys

by Gemma on Aug 26, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah another Londoner!

I am stewarding for it. Not sure what this will involve yet, but I’m hoping it may mean some behind the scenes access… ;-) No, I shouldn’t think much of London will care about it. There will just be endless grumbling about how disruptive it all is to the bus routes etc. Not many people get the point in this country of ours sadly, although hopefully our recent success may start to change things.

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do Londoners

commute by bike much? Is it a bike-friendly place? Just curious. I’m told you have actual mass transit, so maybe bikes aren’t as critical.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A lot of people do,

especially in summer when the heat on the underground is hideous. But the traffic can be awful in certain areas and drivers are generally not very bike loving…. I can’t commute by bike as I live too far out but I take the bike in on the train at weekends and then cycle around the centre when the traffic is better (although even then the taxis take delight in cutting you off).

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope...

Other end of the race – I’m at the end in Liverpool :) Good luck with the stewarding and you’ll have to let us have any gossip you come across!

by Gemma on Aug 26, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah yes, I failed to notice the word 'end'!

Enjoy it!

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've just had an email from the TOB organisers.

Apparently I get a ‘high visibility jacket and a whistle’! And I’m alowed to keep the whistle. How generous of them…..

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

:) I bet you can barely contain your excitement!!

Did they give you a list of things you can and can’t blow your whistle over?? :)

by Gemma on Aug 26, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No. I'm wondering whether I get to blow it at riders

or just rowdy members of the crowd…..

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ohhh riders - that would be fun :)

by Gemma on Aug 26, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is this your high visibility jacket?

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Aug 26, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That

is the worst high visibility jacket ever.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I have no idea what's going on"

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Aug 26, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why

is this in quotes? heh heh

Anyway, you’re one to talk, mr. my blood is 35% Hoegaarden.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 26, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

30% tops

Though that was Sunday morning at 5:35am when I woke up.

D’oh!

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Aug 26, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What actually is that?!

It looks like a beach towel.

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is.....but so much more.

Google ‘Towlie’ and you’ll find more answers than you ever wanted ;-)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Aug 26, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right. Once again, The Cafe has educated me....!

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see anything.

I’m assuming it’s one of those things blocked here at work?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 26, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you have a draconian IT department too?

Empathy.

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lately more and more is getting

tightened down on. I might need to step into ctv tonight before leaving to make sure that’s not an issue. Not having that would be bad although I’ll be at TOM for a week missing some of it already.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 26, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And it's checked.

Work has somehow blocked the towel as it can be seen from home just fine. Strange.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 26, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it involves dodging sliding motorbikes!

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Aug 26, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love it when the ToB is compared to the Tour and Giro.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Aug 26, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It might get more attention if it were better run

From what I remember last year, one stage was pretty much wiped out when the police led the peloton the wrong way straight into a busy road, which led to the riders having a go-slow in protest (not much fun for anyone who’s taken the trouble to go and watch), and another got neutralised for a large chunk in the middle because one council hadn’t issued the right permit in time. The organisers blamed the council (or was it the police?), the council said that they hadn’t got the application early enough. Whatever, a breakaway was pulled up, everyone rode tempo for 30 miles or so, making sure to stop at red lights etc., then the break was sent off again nicely rested.

by Monty. on Aug 26, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

woohoo!

more previews.

i so heart me some race previews. ’specially when other people write them :-P

by gavia on Aug 26, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn...

CSC Saxo-Bank have changed their lineup for Deutschland and now Cance isn’t doing it (sighs)

by Gemma on Aug 26, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Boo!

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know! I was most disappointed when I read the start list.

It’ll still be great, but I admit I’m not looking forward to it quite as much now :)

by Gemma on Aug 26, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's still Jens!

by Albertina on Aug 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Indeed - the only thing that will keep me watching (or following if I can't see it anywhere)

by Gemma on Aug 26, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no cance?

{sigh}

the dude has done quite a bit of racing lately. s’pose we can cut him a little slack…

by gavia on Aug 26, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vaughters -- George Carlin would be proud!

Nice of VS to include that primo Vaughters quote at time index 1:51. :)

-Greg

by gregm on Aug 26, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

heh

just realized that now i actually have to write a gossip column.

domani, domani. i’ve been saving up a few good bits :-)

by gavia on Aug 26, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Verkehrsinformationsflyer shows up unhyphenated (25)

http://www.deutschland-tour.de/verkehrsinformationen.218.html Now, I’m pretty sure “flyer” isn’t good Deutsch, and on another page it is hyphenated. But I’ll raise you that one letter anyway.

by JFS_PGH on Aug 26, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ausdauerleistungsfähigkeit - 26 character Teutonic Grammatical Pain...

Right here.

Makes me wonder how much money they paid Chris when he said “I can get the entire membership of PdC to read every page of your website.”

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gesamtveranstaltungskonzept - 27 characters

yowza.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nothing to do with bikes but according to that lovely thing called Wikipedia:

“The longest German word verified to be actually in (albeit very limited) use is Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz. [which, literally translated, breaks up into: Rind (cattle) – Fleisch (meat) – Etikettierung(s) (labelling) – Überwachung(s) (supervision) – Aufgaben (duties) – Übertragung(s) (assignment) – Gesetz (law), so "Beef labelling supervision duty assignment law”.]"

Crazy.

by Albertina on Aug 27, 2008 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol!

That is crazy word!

by Bruce Suomi on Aug 27, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's practice using it in a sentence

Today, breaking news from Bavaria, where the main processing plant for Sehr Gut Cold Cuts was cited for 17 different violatons of the Rindfleischetikettierungs (pauses to catch breath) überwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 27, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have to put that up as a vid

just so I can see you using your high school german again. And it might help to have a defibrilator handy.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Aug 27, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And, in case

anyone was curious. Go on… click it… you know you want to.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Aug 26, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

rule of thumb, don't click on anything that has the word sharft in its name

by lyne on Aug 26, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sigh... that would be shaft

stupid fingers

by lyne on Aug 26, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey... are you still on the other place yet?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 26, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

er other place?

by lyne on Aug 26, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coffee beans all over the floor?

I thought you were on but then you disappeared.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 26, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh I often have windows opened on multiple systems

I am such a geek. But I did pick up all my coffee beans and sadly threw them away.

by lyne on Aug 26, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OMG - and it has a speaker to hear it!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Aug 26, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh! Mein ears!

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew... on Aug 27, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ok, now I'm really confused about cycling.tv...

was checking into the Universal Sports site (ie, who took over WCSN), to see if there was any information about whether their broadcasts and videos would be USA only (as was the NBC Olympics stuff, plus many of the prior cycling events on WCSN) … clicked on their “test video” in the registration section and the test video was an ad for JumpTV! (ie. who took over cycling.tv). Also noticed that “nmnathletics.com” seems to pop up frequently as a URL on both c.tv and the Universal Sports site …

So, clicking on nmnathetics.com got me to a Jump TV media kit site, where a link from May mentioned “World Championship Sports Network (WCSN) strikes strategic alliance with JumpTV.
JumpTV to Provide New Look and Feel to WCSN.com Along With Advanced Media Functionality Including Dynamic Video Portal, Social Networking Capabilities and E-Commerce”. I must have missed that one, here I thought that WCSN was stealing events away from cycling.tv … but instead they are “strategically aligned”?

Except that since May (I think, regarding timing) – JumpTV is merging with someone else (NeuLion) and WCSN was taken over by Universal Sports/NBC? So, where does that leave the “strategic alliance”? Can anyone make any sense out of this? Does the strategic alliance mean "ha ha, we now have more money that you c.tv suckers because we’re with NBC now, so we can outbid you for cycling broadcast rights and yet you won’t do anything because we’re ‘allies’ "?

(also interesting was that c.tv seemed to be indicating that even with my “Premium” package, ie not Gold North America that includes the Vuelta, that I will still get low-res coverage of the Vuelta? I’ll believe that when I see it …)

by guidemd on Aug 26, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ah yes

Probably a good time to remember that the D-Tour is live on Universal Sports. or, I think it’s live. Time TBA is a bit ominous yet.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 27, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

universal has a countdown clock to the prologue

which is scheduled for friday, 29 aug, at 11am edt us (10am cdt us / 9am mdt us / 8am pdt us)

based on the time scheduled at the d-tour website, universal isn’t showing live coverage then, cause the time schedule has race times from 11.00 local to 13.40 local

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 27, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

d-tv schedule per d-tour website

d-tour tv schedule

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 27, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now why can't other race organisers do something like that

A simple list, country by country, of who has the rights.

by Monty. on Aug 27, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Devilishly simple

Other races seem to treat this info as a state secret. A tad counterintuitive…

And while I’m not crazy about the slight delays (pre-work hours are less complicated), I can understand waiting til the Vuelta coverage goes dark.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 27, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

universal sports schedule for d-tour (and a few others)

http://www.universalsports.com//SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23000&KEY=&SPID=13044&SPSID=105620

and the race is free from the beta site

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 28, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

live streaming?

according to cyclingfans, universal won’t be streaming live because the primary production team hasn’t returned yet from the olympics…..

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Aug 28, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i gotta gc preview on the way for la vuelta

by gavia on Aug 27, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cool

first come, first served.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris... on Aug 27, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cervélo Rumours Confirmed

TestTeam announced (and here and here and here). Not Gerolsteiner Mk II. Will be low-key ProContinental. Looks like it’ll have the same anti-doping regime as the ladies’ squad. Between-the-lines reading says they’re out of CSC.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Aug 28, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs