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La Vuelta Stage 11... LIVE!

La Vuelta Stage 11 Live!


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Bumpy run into Burgos today. CW says it's another sprint, and there's little reason to disagree, but it will take a little defending -- by Euskaltel or whomever -- to rein in attacks over the hills. Fun times!

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today's weather forecast

Weather: There will be sunny weather at first, partially cloudy sky later and becoming to mostly cloudy sky from the middle of the journey and with some heavy showers and thunderstorms at several sections later until the arrival.
 
Winds: It will blow light from variable directions, but mainly Southerly wind at general in the race, although it will be some high or high gusts in the stormy moments of the race. It will be from left side and contrary to the cyclists at general.
 
Temperatures: They will range between 29ºC at first decreasing progressively to 18ºC in the summit of the stage High and 21ºC near Burgos.

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 7:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning!

I had this bizarre dream last night that Lance announced he was coming back to the sport. Bizarre, huh.

by PopUp Rolen on Sep 10, 2008 7:04 AM EDT reply actions  

tre bizarre fer sure

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

about 10-15 mins for the start

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 7:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Is Lance in the breakaway? Has he won yet?

Whaaaaaat? But, but, but …….it’s not really a bikerace if he’s not there is it?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 10, 2008 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Floyd to Health Net

According to CN.

It’s like the most polarizing figures in the sport had a meeting this week and decided to bury Vuelta and Tour of Missouri headlines.

by PopUp Rolen on Sep 10, 2008 7:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm telling you

I so badly want to see Jan’s head pop over the garden wall right now . . .

by Sui Juris on Sep 10, 2008 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

if this is going to turn into a circus, it might as well go full tilt and evolve into a shit show.

by PopUp Rolen on Sep 10, 2008 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

unless the winds create echelons... another boring stage today

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 7:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Greetings all.

Can’t join you today-am singing at the Proms! So if anyone can get BBC Radio 3, tune in!

by Albertina on Sep 10, 2008 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

but, but... you know the area so well now

after the vuelta a burgoa

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know I know!

‘Sorry Mr Conductor, I got stuck at work watching the Vuelta and missed you WHOLE rehearsal…..’ No, not sure that would wash. Enjoy Burgos……

by Albertina on Sep 10, 2008 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Will you still

be wearing your fluorescent yellow jacket.

by Monty. on Sep 10, 2008 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

No!

Strictly all black unfortunately!

by Albertina on Sep 10, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

a little excitement.. a split in the pack... all together now

egoi had been in front, astana in the 2nd…

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

it's bruce....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Trio en cabeza Recordamos que los dos corredores que marchan en carrera junto a 117 (MARTINEZ Serafin ), son 23 (LOPEZ GIL José Antonio ), y 174 (GRIVKO Andriy

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Sep 10, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Breakaway of the dat. AlrEADY HAVE A MINUTW OR 2

 (sorry)

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Sep 10, 2008 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

news

O’Grady signs two more years with CSC Saxo-Bank

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 10, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

love the rider, hate the team

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh

Now he just needs to find a way to work a deal with Fate, so he can actually use that CSC-Saxo contract . . .

by Sui Juris on Sep 10, 2008 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe a few crashes...

but i’m sure he’d trade all those for winning paris-roubaix…

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 min gap for the 3-man breakaway

serafin martinez
lopez gil
grivko

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

i tell ya, for an official website, the vuelta site is slow on the updates....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Who follows the official sites?

Perhaps just me, but those sites always seem a bit “lazy” because they are official so they know they will get hits no matter what.

by Capisce on Sep 10, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

tdf is quite good.... giro's isn't bad

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

at 53km gone (14.37)... gap 7 min... break waiting for lopez gil, suffered mechanical

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

gap 6.50 at 60km gone

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

5.50 at 68km gone

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

5.32 at 73km gone

euskie, lampre, rabo driving the peloton….

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Right - it's either a rider or a nerve gas of some type. Either way it's interesting

I wonder how Lemond reacted to yesterday’s news………………..

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 10, 2008 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

sarin is the nerve gas

there’s an anti-depressant called serafem

a few musical artists also called serafin

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know. It just sounds like a type of ng too.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 10, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got me worried for a second

When I saw Lemond/LA’s return and nervegas in the same post I got nervous.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 10, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

serafin as in seraph = celestial being

or maybe i’m being too literal – more espresso…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

gap up to 5.55

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

and km to go?

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Sep 10, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's right, make me do math

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

5.30 gap at 97km/81km to go

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

still clear skies forecasted for saturday in asturias

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

and sunday

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

watch for tinkoff to try something later today, or tomorrow

oleg arrives at the race today

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

tve-international pre-race starts

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

and the headline of the day is....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

gorgeous in burgos... blue blue sky.. slight clouds

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

burgos

best cathedral in northern Spain :)

by kimchi on Sep 10, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

wish i understood spanish...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

i was just thinking that...

mine is mucho rusty…

but then i would know what Bruyneel is saying with that smirk and the glint in his eye…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

5.15 gap, 102km/76km to go

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

4.47 gap, 109km/69km to go

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

a tad hot out there today.... break pouring water over themselves

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

56.4km to go

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

lampre, euskies, rabo still driving the peloton .. gap 4.58

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

a sign of the times? break in sunshine, peloton in overcast?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

peloton really doesn't seem to be driving much

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

commentary from Chav
Cyclingnews diarist Sylvain Chavanel checked in. “It goes well for the team. Now it is the time for the sprinters. We wait for the stage to the Angliru, but I know I will be far back… Yes, the French are doing a good Vuelta. There are sprinters, workers, climbers like Moncoutié…”

His ambition is still to get his targeted stage win. “I will try.”
Current race situation

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

as my puppies fight over the front door again...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

cream male chow, sable norwegian elkie

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

they're really hubby's "puppies"....

i had to put my “latest” puppy down a year ago almost… i hate the last week of september… lost too many puppies in that month (9/28/96, 9/27/03, 9/25/08)

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

should be 9/25/07 for the last one… chows all
and there was a 6th one in there also

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

no no no

nothing worse for a breed than to be a “show” dog…

there’s no such thing as a “german shepherd” in the states anymore… too much inbreeding. no wonder that bred is so crippled

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

depends how they're raised and bred...

the most well-adjusted dog i ever lived with was a top flight show dog…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah, that's difficult...

i have a couple of those anniversaries in my calendar… i parted with my last one, a lovely Wire, in fall ’04…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, they're my "kids"....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice...

those colours are more rare, aren’t they? i’m a terrier man…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

creams, cinnamons, blacks are easily found colors of chows, reds and blues not so much

most elkie’s are “sable”

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

the blues are beautiful...

i didn’t know the creams were more common…

i was thinking a sable elkhound would be darker than usual, but as i say, terrier man… i didn’t ever handle or judge hounds or working dogs…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

blacks... they're the best

unfortunately, i’m of the firm conviction that epilepsy runs along the cream line

and reds tend to be the most aggressive

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, blacks are also beautiful...

and i’ve had the impression they are the calmest. agree about the reds, from experience. it’s a shame that so many breeds now seem to have some major disorder or other in certain lines…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

my black even answered to beautiful... and you had best show her the proper obeisance

the creams and the epilepsy is because i’ve had two of them.. and my current cream shows a lot of the same characteristics of my first cream…

the other two i had were cinnamons…

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

sounds like she was a proper Chow :)

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

and she let everybody know it...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

4.36, 49.3km to go for leaders

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

saw only 1 rabo... is that silence or cde behind the euskies?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

4.23 gap... km to go unknown

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

4.05, 31km for the leaders

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

that's 46.7km to go

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

as j-rod loads up on bottles

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

ToB news...

Top three for today’s Britain’s stage:
1 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Nor) Columbia
2 Giairo Ermeti (Ita) LPR Brakes
3 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) LPR Brakes

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps if Columbia tried to ride bikes without rear wheels

they might actually loose a race or two.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 10, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

break on the descent of the climb now

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

wow, gap down to 3.11

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

peloton made some time on the climb

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

40.5km for the leaders, gap is 3.14

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

arriete getting "assists" from the car (ag2r) while picking up bottles

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

38.2km for the leaders, cat 3 climb

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

2.55, km to go unknown

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

how long is this climb?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

lopez gil gets dropped in the break...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

lopez gil crosses the cat 3 summit 3 secs behind the leaders

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

as peloton rides a steady pace

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

an euskie, two lgs, astani in the front

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

lopez gil joins his break companions on the downhill, as moncoutie goes for mtn pts

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

2.47 for the peloton on the cat 3 summit

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

2.32 the gap, km unknown

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

29km for the leaders

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

nice narrow roads the peloton will have to go thru

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

20km for the peloton. 2.04 the gap

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

gap under 2mins now

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

hey, where is everyone?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

yup.. is it saturday yet?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

and where's the wind-driven echelons, that's what i want to know

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, not real exciting today

and allllllll the commentary on Eurosport is about Lance. I keep wanting to tell them to keep it to its own thread.

by majope on Sep 10, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

after the giro and the tour

imo, the vuelta is always boring.

live to ride, ride to live

by orangekick on Sep 10, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

any gt is boring unless they're in the mountains

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

imo, I'm pretty much worn out after the 2 big tours are played out

the 3rd big tour seems somewhat anti-climatic

I like US racing after the TdF — the different faces we see on this side of the pond look more motivated … therefor more entertaining to watch.

live to ride, ride to live

by orangekick on Sep 10, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reading along, but at school

little chance to really follow the race if it wasn’t for you!

by WhyWhat on Sep 10, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

break thru 15km banner... long pan back to the peloton

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

bettini driving the peloton?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

gap 1.19

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

peloton booking at 63kmph

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

11.5km for the leaders

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

cde moving up on the right of the peloton..

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

10km for the leaders

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

lg taking over the front of the peloton

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

40 sec gap at 10km banner

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

9km for leaders

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

30 sec gap

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

fdj helping at the front

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

8km

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

peloton 17 secs back

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

we have a bruce gap

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

7km and the peloton is right on the leaders' heels

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

silence, cde, lg, csc?

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

tinkoff?

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Finally tuning in

thank you, UMWolverine, for your yeoman’s work in keeping us readers informed.

by Sui Juris on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

and keeping up with work as well... i rock

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed!

I’m at work and can’t watch CTV, so I appreciate the reports.

by Katiek on Sep 10, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

is brutt riding?

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

5km... tinkoff rider hanging off the front

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

oh, somebody do something...

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

4km

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Oscarito!

(just because it feels right)

by Sui Juris on Sep 10, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

always

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race

by ELVISGOAT on Sep 10, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

qs take the lead..

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

3km

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

not very organized

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

bettini back on the front... rabo behind him

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

then the rest of the qs train

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

well, bettini was there

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

2km

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

swing wide

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

final straight

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

freire

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

yay yay yay for oscar !!!

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

so love friere

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Nice

Forget work, Chris. I need to see some VDS victory.

by Sui Juris on Sep 10, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

OK OK

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 10, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Work?

I thought he was a lawyer?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 10, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that haedo 3rd?

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

zabel, then mondory

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

zabel is still the best

at always being well positioned – just legs a little old

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 10, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

gracias

We’ll just pretend that it was the result of exacting analysis.

by Sui Juris on Sep 10, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think bad

this is the first in top10, or something like that…

by semprenaroda on Sep 10, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

then that means he's performing as reasonably expected

I know how it works, but it’s still strange to see him so dominant in the US, and then turn into pack fodder across the pond.

by Sui Juris on Sep 10, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

first time i've seen him there

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

that cathedral always looks like a sand castle to me

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

lunch time...

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by umwolverine on Sep 10, 2008 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

anyone notice

the guy from Cofidis to try launch an attack in last line, but was unable to, because the pace was very strong
should be Duque…

by semprenaroda on Sep 10, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

lead out was long and very fast

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 10, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

What this guys seeing?

1 Oscar Freire (Spa) Rabobank
2 Tom Boonen (Bel) Quick Step
3 Juan Antonio Flecha (Spa) Rabobank???
4 Erik Zabel (Ger) Team Milram
5 Loyd Mondory (Fra) AG2R La Mondiale

from CN

by semprenaroda on Sep 10, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry I'm missing stages...

… i started with a trainer on Monday and my mornings are now totally blown out (as are nearly all my major muscle groups). Glad to see you guys hanging tough though… looks like it was a killer fast finish today.

Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.

by crashdan on Sep 10, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

had to step out for an appointment...

thanks for the updates!

nice one, Freire, and FLECHA! :)

and good to see Haedo showing some form and making it into the top ten again…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

ok, i'm in a muddle...

Flecha or Haedo third? and if Flecha, where did Haedo place?

either way, some VDS points :)

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

got it!

thanks, gavia :)

good one, HAEDO!

not good to see Flecha out of the main bunch…

by nicknorco on Sep 10, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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