La Vuelta Stage 16... LIVE!
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 5:00 AM EDT
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PrintLa Vuelta Stage 16
Back to the sprinters' show. Which Greg Van Avermaet is about to steal, along with the points jersey. Just 11 points back of the maillot oro and otherwise occupied Alberto Contador, Van Avermaet has a clear shot at an improbable points win. Consider: Boonen, Bennati, Bettini, Freire... all on hand, veterans with long and glamorous points resumes. But Benna's gone, Freire bowed out, and Boonen and Bettini are almost certainly too far back to make a dent. The stage battle will be competitive, but the points battle is almost over. Enjoy!
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pre-race snippets:
— contador ok following crash
— valverde pleased that cde leads astana by about 30 mins for team prize
— cunego abandons/doesn’t start
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
the stage starts with a climb to the cat 1 climb, then it's all downhill to zamora
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
should be another scorcher, with temps going btwn mid to high 20s, except for the cat 1 summit, at 16
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Near the summit of the Alto del Acebo
According to VeloNews, early breakaway attempts were brought back and all’s quiet in the peloton.
Then again, as the VeloNews live feed says...
Man, this is gonna be a sleeper folks. We love bicycle racing more than most, but there are days when the action is … mmmmm…. downright boring at times. We can’t blame the riders, it’s just a combination of factors: route and exhaustion being on the top of the list.
Does that mean I should actually get some work done today?
In other cycling news, CyclingNews reports that Thomas Dekker’s manager told them, “We are speaking with CSC and I must say it looks good.”
CSC? Yay for the strong doping controls, but among the talent at that team he’ll really have to work to shine. Which, come to think of it, probably isn’t a bad thing either.
Truth? Or should we start betting on how many hours until CSC denies it?
He might have it wrong
TD might end up in an entrylevel programming -job at CSC and not in a job as pro bike rider at Saxo Bank.
I don’t believe a word of it.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
Ouch.
Looking around various cycling forums, the word is that Riis wanted Dekker before, but at the time he preferred to stay with Rabobank. And now he’s probably quite a bargain.
Hey, it could happen.
Mini-Schleck and Dekker
Roughly same age, targetting the same races, both with big ambitions. Don’t see why Riis would take on potential problems to fill a position on the team that is already taken?
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
26km/160.3km to go
Rosendo stretches his lead
Coming down from Alto del Acebo, 28 (ROSENDO PRADO Jesus ), has a 27 second edge on 187 (PEDRAZA MORALES Walter Fernando ), and 58 seconds over the big bunch.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
29km/157.3 km to go
Rosendo y Pedraza, in the lead
Tinkoff cyclist 187 (PEDRAZA MORALES Walter Fernando ), has caught 28 (ROSENDO PRADO Jesus ), and the two are now riding in the lead. Their advantage on the main pack is 2:07.
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4.45 gap, 38km/148.6km to go
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
you sure about that gap at 50km? cause official site has 7.32 at 48km/138.3km to go
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
didn't say you made it up... vn prob has wrong time...
unless the peloton or a chase group really booked those two km to bring down the gap by almost a min
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
8.38 gap, 53km/133.3km to go
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
FYI Tour of Poland is on Eurosport 2
"Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbe
by cyclingchallenge on Sep 16, 2008 9:36 AM EDT reply actions
and geo-restricted....
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you're late...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
7.27 gap, 59km/129.3km to go .... bettini leading the pack
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
don't forget that big hill at the start of the day
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
6.18 gap, 65km/123.3km to go -- bettini's working paying off
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4.55 gap, 69km/117.3km to go -- wow, bettini's on fire today
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
into a headwind, temp of 26C
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Tinkoff racer 182 (ROVNY Ivan ), has called it quits for this Vuelta
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
bettini stung by a wasp -- le ouch
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4.03 gap, 75km/111.3km to go
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
silence, qs, milram driving
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
from CN
Van Avermaet told Cyclingnews’ Bjorn Haake he doesn’t intend to keep the status quo until Madrid. “We will roll today with some of the other sprinters’ teams to take some points out of Contador. He will be winning or at least be close at the time trial and get more points then.”
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
ditto for tve-international
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4.28 gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4.02 gap, 90.7km/97.6 km to go
if my math’s right
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
zzzzzzzzzz
Here’s an odd question:
Have the powers that be ever thought of a 2 week Tour? It really seems that at this point of the calendar everyone is looking at the Worlds. At any rate the end of the year calendar just doesn’t work so well. There are good races but they just don’t click.
tour? or vuelta?
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
90km left?
Are they even pedaling? Damn, I want to see the finale, but I don’t exactly have all day.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions
i see wheels turning...
what was that all about with levi and the team car? and a pda?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
HI, good morning/afternoon, all.
I think he said something about the Astana team contacted the race officials to get the specs for the Combination design for the bike shorts, so Levi could ride in the complete combo kit, instead of only wearing the jersey?
my ES commentator was embarrassed when he had to tell the average
for the third hour. Just marginally better than the second hour…
so desolate...
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peloton having a chat fest
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Spaniards
are there any jerks in the peloton from Spain? They all seem awfully nice, and friendly with each other.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
a rabo rider stole the american flag
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
from the guy with the antlers
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
almost took an fdj riders head... then dropped the flag on the ground
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
flecha
from VN:
back in the peloton, Flecha has grabbed the American flag from Freaky-runner With Antlers Guy.
Wars
were fought over less…
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
yep
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
saw a video clip of it just now
won’t say where (the usual fear of it then being gone, email me and I’ll send a link if needed) … pretty funny episode.
just wondering, apparently a friend of a friend (American) was quite upset that Flecha dropped the flag because they found it “disrespectful”. Perhaps it’s just me, but isn’t running with the flag beside a bike race while wearing a crazy getup including antlers just as disrespectful if not more so? (or how can you expect respect for the flag, ie. from Flecha, after someone’s already disrespected it in such a way?)
(technically, probably all fans waving flags at sports events are breaking proper flag protocol – so I’m just wondering why someone would be upset by one aspect and yet not other aspects of it…)
throwing the flag on the ground
was definetly not respectful, no matter how silly the guy carrying it was.
Flecha got blasted by our commentators and I agree with them. Too bad he is on my team.
3.08 gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Allow me to rephrase...
How’s the 15kph friendly ride through the scorching hot Spanish back country?
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
Xacobeo sponsors
re-up!
And there’s Leonardo Dookie!
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
Duque: More 7:th places than any other currently active rider
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
chechu sightings !!! always a good thing
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sorry, it's a flat run in today...
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Kid on MTB
respect!
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
3,36 the gap (i think, numbers are kinda small for me)
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
3.37... it's going back up
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
maybe the peloton should be fined if they go under a certain speed on these flat dry stages
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Maybe
the race can organize a fleet of huge trucks who follow the race and lock in at, say 30kph on the cruise control and are on strict orders not to stop, except for crashes. Perhaps they could add flamethrowing capability too.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
This solution
can be filed under “what would Versus do?”
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok friends...I'm out...
… time for a ride on the pain train… see y’all later… don’t tell me who wins.
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
look... people
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since the peloton seems to have nothing much to do...
how’s bout they line the riders up from front to back by height…. tall guys first….
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
isn't gesink taller than boonen?
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Gesink is listed at 1.87 m
and Boonen at 1.93 m. But that’s Wikipedia, and besides, official stats lie.
just ask cavendish
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Ohh
this would look pretty cool in a paceline.
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
horsey... purty
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
2.59 gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
lotto, milram, qs at the front of the peloton...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
as av comes up from the back of the peloton... don't want to make that mistake again
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
2.20 gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
long long straight road ....
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
how fun... one heli filming another heli flying around...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
np... it's suppose to be keeping me awake... work's just as boring today
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
now they're interviewing moto riders/drivers...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
peloton all bunched together... anyone for bowling?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
you sure it's not lombardia?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
1.56 the gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
49.9km still to go
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
that's gotta be the wrong gap
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
slow stage today ......?
"Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbe
by cyclingchallenge on Sep 16, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions
well... someone else can keep track for a while... gotta feed the puppies
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
1.34 the gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
45k to go, gap still 1:34.
Bweeg is down to 4 riders already, Matt says. QST and *Lotto are still on the front.
so...
apparently the slow pace is a protest of some sort? tuttobiciweb is reporting that the riders are protesting a change in the length of yesterday’s stage and decided to keep the pace deliberately slow.
interesting
strange the TV guys don’t know
"Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbe
by cyclingchallenge on Sep 16, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
was yesterday's stage longer than planned?
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a guy on a motorbike riding parallel to the 2 riders in the breakaway,
and that provided a little excitement for them. Now it’s a big guy on a horse next to the peloton!
I have to give this commentator props for providing such wonderful solitary commentary on such a long, flat stage. As others her have said earlier, it’s hard to .
the real excitement
were the old ladies on walkers and the guys on crutches who were walking next to the peloton, but unfortunately the peloton couldn’t keep up
so, i take it i didn't miss anything?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Well, at VeloNews
they did announce that they “just noticed [Contador] has a yellow glove on the left hand and an Astana-colored glove on the right.”
Hey, it’s something.
well, you missed the horse...
…they’ve been the most interesting things to watch today
seen a few here or there... can always rewind the tivo... had to increase the buffer for today anyway
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
the advantageous of working at home
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
as usual, they think i didn't feed them enough
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
wait
this stage is still going on?!?
"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."
by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 16, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
ayup
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt says the peloton is well behind schedule today.
Does this mean that c.tv might cut out the coverage of today’s stage with 4k left to go? (Sorry, I’m still bitter about Paris-Bruxelles Saturday…)
wait, i think the peloton might be picking up the pace...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Check your Tivo, sure it's not on fastforward?
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
1.53 the gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
geez...
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that peloton is having just too much fun
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Off topic: they've announced that they're opening the new bridge over I-35W
in Minneapolis tomorrow morning at 5am! This is the new bridge to replace the one that collapsed over the Mississippi last August. This is ahead of schedule, and good news for our city.
me neither,
and that I’m still watching…..
by Bruce Suomi on Sep 16, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
wonder what the two in the break are thinking about this time...
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Oh well, home beckons, so night to all
…figure they’ll likely have finished by the time i get back to work tomorrow, but then again…
1.29 gap
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
1.13
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pace has picked up in the peloton
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Someone realized
they were going to miss todays episode of “Verbotene Liebe” on the telly if they didn’t hurry up.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
qs, milram, silence
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
15km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
54 secs
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
zabel is a lock for 3rd
like usual
"Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbe
by cyclingchallenge on Sep 16, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
41 secs
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ag2r for whom?
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29 secs
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
10km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
15 secs
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
slight bottleneck there
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
9km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ah, heck, why don't they just let those two go away to the finish
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
8km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
that's all she wrote
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
7km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
lg at the front
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
and euskie
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
flecha jumps
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
I'll pick Duque
He has to win something sometime.
Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets
an lg rider on his wheels... quinziato maybe
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and the peloton is all over the road
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
lined back up
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lg, rabo, qs
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
qs on front now, bettini 2nd wheel
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
4km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
silence bringing up van avermaet on the left
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
what a mess
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
roundabout
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3km
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
ooh, split in the road
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six stray riders on the right
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not for long
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by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
lucky that side road rejoined
"Tourists and locals are watching from sidewalk cafes. Non-racers. The emptiness of those lives shocks me." Tim Krabbe
by cyclingchallenge on Sep 16, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
back together again on this roundabout
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and the peloton's all strung out... bettini pulling the train for boonen
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
bettini pulls off
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
pozzato on boonen's wheel
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qs down to 2 to drive for boonen
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bazan of astana tried
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booooonen
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by cyclingchallenge on Sep 16, 2008 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
boonen
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
pity
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
pozzato 2nd maybe
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
56km/hr
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
hausler, deluger, vaitukus,
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
no van avermaet in top 10
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
i tried
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Can Boonen win points jersey?
Too lazy to look it up mark.
doubtful
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
boonen had 75 pts as of stage 15
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Sep 16, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Worlds not suited to him maybe
Just thinking that the way people are talking the Worlds aren’t super suited to him so this would be a nice jersey. The Stripes would still likely be better if he could, and he isn’t tired.
in case anyone was interested with today's speedy race statistics:
The peloton was determined to have a slow day; 15 kilometres covered in the first hour, 28.3 kilometres in the second and 31.3 kilometres in the third was the speed of cyclo-tourists.
The gap fell down to two minutes in the fourth hour of racing, but the pace was still very slow with Milram and Silence-Lotto at the front of the gruppo. The racing finally looked series with the split at 55 seconds in the final 15 kilometres. The riders covered 33.1 kilometres in the fourth hour and 34 in the fifth.
The duo’s lead was cracked; it has 15 seconds under the 10-kilometre banner. The sprinters’ men were going near 70 kilometres an hour to put their men into position
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
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