Mountain TT on Ventoux in 2009 TdF?
by guidemd on Sep 18, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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PrintThat's apparently the rumour, that I saw first at sportwereld, so I found the original article as well at La Provence ... "C'est probable et ce serait un contre-la-montre" says a government official (consul general of the canton and also a elected deputy? something like that). translation is pretty obvious IMO - it's probable and it would be a TT. The Sportwerld headline used "Klimtijdrit", I've learned that a "tijdrit" is a TT and I presume "Klim" means climb or similar :-).
Oh, and it would apparently be on Saturday July 25, that is, the second-last day of the TdF.
Hopefully the fact this was leaked doesn't mean ASO goes and changes everything, as I think this could be quite exciting!
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lol
i was going to write exactlly this post. i’m glad you did it, as i hadn’t had the chance to find the original article, and was feeling laaazeee about the idea.
that would make for quite a finale: the ventoux as the final stage of racing. wowzers.
Wow
the parcours is going to be a real spaghetti mess if they start in Monaco and (nearly) finish on the Geant de Provence. But this would be a dramatic finish. I wonder how long they’d make it?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 18, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
lol, spaghetti in france?
It sounds like transfer city. I saw some rumorage that they were going to hit the mountains early, and travel counter-clockwise toward Paris. But this rumor makes that rumor look kinda complicated. and stuff.
Well
if this website is correct, it certainly will be. Here’s the projected map:
Though that map doesn’t really convey the route well, does it. If you go to the website, it has a (incomplete) projected list of stages which, combined with that map, would give you an idea of what’s going to happen. What seems strange to me is, if he’s correct, then they’d be going first into the Pyrenees and then in the Alpes, which would be the same order they did this year. Also, they wouldn’t be going into the north at all. If he’s correct…
Interesting Map
Les Arcs and La Plagne are next to each other and both would be long mountain top finishes – seems strange to have both. La Plagne is steep – Les Arcs not so much but long. La Plagne labels its 21 hairpins à la Alpe d’Huez
Les Carroz would hint at climbing Flaine Ski station as half way up the Col de la Pierre Carrée.
Verbier to Besancon could mean going over the Juras (Maybe the Col de la Faucille – the climb that armstrong had is argument with Simeoni in 2004..
Annecy – Grand Bornand – Morzine could mean Col de la Colombiere and Col de Joux Plane. Both great.
La Toussuire is where Landis bonked before his miracle day.
Verbier is a great climb (in 2008 Tour de Suisse).
Wow – Could be a really fun “north” Alps section
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by cyclingchallenge on Sep 19, 2008 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm
it would certainly be spectacular and would be cheered by the climbers, but that’s an awful long post-stage transit to get them near to Paris for the last stage, especially as the TT stages tend to finish a bit later…
meh
TGV?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 18, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Strange,
as I thought that Ventoux would maybe make an appearance during the first week, possibly as a TT. Maybe the date is wrong…
the first week would make sense
due to the fact they are right there. I like that Prudhomme isn’t stuck in a rut like Leblanc was.
by australopithecine on Sep 18, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 18, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
could be
It would make considerably more sense earlier in the race while they’re in the neighborhood. And with these sorts of rumors, dates are often the part of the story that’s wrong. Of course, that kills the drama of the final stage crono on ze mountain of unusual size…
tijie
Guess who is returning to the Tour next year, and who has a major gap in his resume never a victory at Ventoux? Think he will want to win this, maybe especially if he isn’t leading in the GC at that point?
I used babelfish to translate & will trust what you said because I'm confused
"The Mount-Ventoux, arrival of the Tour de France, it are not for tomorrow. But for today, hear 2009. As we evoked it at the time of the passage to Mount-Serene in March, at the time of Paris-Nice, the Giant of Provence east left to be one of the strong moments of the future edition. An ambition made possible by the agreement binding the General advice of Vaucluse and ASO for the annual passage (until 2011) of a stage on one of these tests.
The race with the sun having already crossed this department in 2007 (Sorgues-Manosque), then in 2008 (Montélimar-Mount-Serene, by Malaucène), any door to be believed indeed that the Mount Bald person will be with go in July. "It is probable and it would be a against-the-watch", acknowledged, yesterday, Jean-Michel Ferrand, general advisor of the canton Carpentras-South and also appointed.
However, whereas it seems acquired that the Large-Mound, Montpellier, Sète (with a stopwatch with the Saint-Clearly Mount), Perpignan, but also Barcelona, even Andorre are city-stages in first half of the Turn 2009, this timed rise of Ventoux would enter within the framework of the penultimate stage, that of Saturday (July 25), and of which the winner would be most probably yellow jersey the following day on the Fields-Élysées. The departure would be carried out of Rasteau for 21,5 km, via Bedoin.
To cut the breath! The Alps of the South, and particularly Sisteron, could also be with the honor, the city not hiding its lively interest for an arrival. That promises!
By R. Lacassin and L. Blanchard (sports@laprovence-presse.fr) "
further suppositions
Assuming there are only two ITTs in next year’s Tour, only one will be flat, which means the odds against HWIR (He Who is Returning) should go up a few ticks. Not clear he will be favored on climbs the way he likely will be favored on ITTs. Against GC contenders, anyway. While on that subject, and sorry to hijack the thread a little, but wouldn’t Lance vs. Cance in a long flat ITT be very interesting?
makes sense
That is, that HWIR, aka HWMNBN, would go better in a flat crono than the climbs these days. Interesting. The Ventoux addition might stack the deck against him some, though it depends a great deal on what the rest of the course looks like. That, and what team he finally ends up riding for.
Sweet - Ventoux is epic
and so unique
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by cyclingchallenge on Sep 19, 2008 2:26 AM EDT reply actions
Last 6 kms on Bedoin side
taken by my wife
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by cyclingchallenge on Sep 19, 2008 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
A mountain TT makes sense from a TT-km viewpoint, no?
We know we a have an opening Monaco TT(not a short prologue). That plus a short mountain TT and a finishing long (ca 50km) TT makes the most sense. If they add the standard 2 long TTs it will completely offset the balance in favour of the TTers. I also don’t believe they will stoop as low as the Giro/Vuelta ( joking) and use a short 25-30km flat TT. That is just not how it’s done at Le Tour.
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