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La Vuelta Stage 4... LIVE!

La Vuelta Stage 4


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Looks like the biggest challenge on this stage will be getting out of Cordoba. And staying awake til the finale. Fine by me; after the way the Giro and the Tour shook out, honestly, couldn't we use some bunch sprints? Boonen was the man yesterday, but Bennati went too soon (IMHO). No mistakes today for the Italian... enjoy!

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Live streaming...

I just wanted to point out that for those of us not subscribed to cycling.tv, (or those not happy with their coverage) http://cyclingfans.com/ has some very nice free feeds of the race.

Of course, even if you do have cycling.tv it couldn’t hurt to have a window open with cyclingfans loaded just in case cycling.tv goes out before the race is over like it did yesterday. (I read about that… Ouch!)

Btw, does anyone know off hand when the first real mountain stage is? I can’t wait to see what Contador does!

Diane

by dwilson on Sep 2, 2008 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

sweet

nice to know there are open streams for this race. now, i’ll just have to see about waking up in time ;-)

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

mountain stages

Sat, 6 Sep – Stage 7 – mountain top finish at Andorra

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

to be followed by Pla de Beret on Sunday's Stage 8 (7 Sep)

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

tho, it's the following weekend that will really tell the tale... Angliru on Saturday, followed by Fuentes de Invierno on Sunday

L’Angliru

Fuentes de Invierno

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

yep... just have to sit thru the rest of the vuelta

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

and, then, of course, there is the penultimate mountain time trial to Alto de Navacerrada

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

updates from CN...
16:07 CEST 90.3km/80km to go
Lopez is pedalling a smaller gear than his team-mate Ortega did yesterday. He’s riding alongside a high stone wall, then moves into a more exposed section dotted with olive trees and spectators. There’s some clouds there today but the sun is shining strongly.

16:12 CEST
Lopez’ jersey is a little big and is a-fluttering away behind his helmet. The sleeves are also dancing in the wind. That’s gotta cost some time. Not much, you’d think, but over a long stage riding solo, it’s gotta add up.

16:15 CEST
The peloton is being led by the Liquigas team of Daniele Bennati.

Lopez was 154th overall this morning, 18’48" back. So that’ll work in his favour – no threat of him taking the jersey.
Current race situation

    * José Antonio López (Andalucía-Cajasur)
    * Peloton at 7.35

love the jersey commentary – must be a quiet stage or a really big jersey…

if i listen to Sean Kelly much longer, i’ll be asleep again…

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks umwolverine! Gotta love those mountain stages!

Diane

by dwilson on Sep 2, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Mornin all

I’m in (Cycling.TV). Why was the announcer talking about CERA? He mentioned Valverde in the same sentence or thereabouts. Please tell me he was off on some tangent.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm doing...

the rasco/ES audio combo again – works quite well but have to head to the office soon… :(

there is talk of a Bennati/Pozzato conflict…?

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Benna/Pippo conflict???

Pippo: “You’re too beautiful!!!”
Benna: “No, YOU’RE too beautiful!!!”
Pippo: “No YOU are”
Benna: “No… YOU!”

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

perhaps we need to put this one to a vote :-P

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morning Rebecca...

… would you care for a horrifically unmasculine European coffee?

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No wait

let me get it. Lucaffe today. Macchiato?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha

someone got me all worried about the calorie content of unmasculine coffee on here the other day! luckily that concern passed quite quickly!

by rebeccactv on Sep 2, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

whew!

I hate bad news, especially on a travel day.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The tangent

He was discussing Valverde’s two wins at the Tour, and how one of them came about because of Riccardo Ricco testing positive for CERA.

No scandals so far today.

by CTV-ROLD on Sep 2, 2008 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I'd hoped

I missed the first half of the sentence. Gave me pause…

What’s the announcer’s name? Is he here to stay? I loved Anthony & Brian, but this guy’s very sharp too. even if I talk with an Aussie accent for most of the morning afterwards.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Announcer...

Ha ha, it’s not just me then re the accent! His name is Matt Keenan and he’ll be the voice of the Vuelta on CTV this year but our lovable pair, Anthony and Brian will definately be back for the Worlds so don’t fear!! They’ll be back with the usual entertaining banter very soon after schmoozing with the stars at the Saltford Nocturne and Tour of Britain where you can catch Anthony live on the mic if you’re in the UK!

by rebeccactv on Sep 2, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah right

thanks!

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

quick CTV question for harold and Rebecca

On all of the On Demand and live footage, my screen looks like a strobe light with a flashing black screen that goes off about once every half second. Any ideas? I’m on a Mac and have never had problems before with the old version.

by PopUp Rolen on Sep 2, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Morning...

Been a while since I attended a live thread… good to see some of the usual suspects out there…

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah

what’s up with that?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

sean kelly

is dishing about Pozzato…

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Does he know Pozzato?

Or is he just harkening back to the days when he was more relevant?

Personally I don’t see how you can dislike a guy who rocks Flanders.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

sean is pretty understated, so dishing might have been the wrong word. he was answering questions about Pozzato and said something about him having a reputation about not being the easiest rider to work with…

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah ego

well, that one’s probably deserved.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know it's a boring stage when...

the commentary goes like this:

16:25 CEST 98.3km/72km to go
Lopez heads along a long, straight road, bordered by olive trees and scrubland. It’s very dry here, and that plus the sun’s head deters many plants from growing.

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Today's forecast

is for HOT HOT action. Or, wait, weather. Hot weather.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Or women

if the pictures of the TTT girls are to be believed on Pez.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bettini... schlepping bottles?

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

"No gold medal?"

“Start packing bottles!”

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

"and take that helmet off"

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhh yeah.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

okay, nice little travelogue during the stage today at tve-internationl

rutas por cantabria

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Kohl to *lotto?

I must have missed that Gossip di Gavia… what a sad little bit of news.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

good grief... i thought he wanted to win the tour some day

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Kohl decided he was too tired after a Grand Tour...

… to make that final climb to the top of the podium.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

is this confirmed?

i’d heard it was looking alot like this…

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't find a single bit of supporting news on the Google...

… but two Gossip columns pop up if you do a news search for “Bernhard Kohl”

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

it’s everywhere but nothing official yet that i’ve seen…

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gavia

will nail this down, once the tide comes in and that wicked left-hand break smooths out.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do I have the feeling...

… that I should be jealous of Gavia’s life…

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

that was an item in her last gossip.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's a right, actually ;-)

Suddeutschen Zeitung reported last week that Kohl was going to Silence. But this has not yet been confirmed elsewhere. Kohl will announce his plans at a press conference, on 8 September.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and for the record

the tides freakin’ sucked this weekend. just sayin’

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't

that mean they’ll be perfect next weekend?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yeah

they’re good next weekend. not sure ’bout the swell though.

lol, i might have to watch some bike racing instead. i should be on for the crono tomorrow. i’m laggin’ hard on the vuelta so far. d’oh.

by Jen See on Sep 3, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I actually heard a different rumour about Kohl to a different team (one that hasn’t been mentioned anywhere in the cycling media that I’ve seen) … but it was of the insider on team A told someone who told someone else variety, so I won’t mention which team it is. Unless of course it ends up being true, in which case I will claim prior knowledge of it :-)

by guidemd on Sep 2, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

si...

there are a couple rumors going around.

i don’t buy the sdz report, actually. they’re very reliable about some things. about this? not so much, i think.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

schumi...

is now on screen and in the commentary. his helmet always looks to big – not the most elegant rider…

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

speaking of schumi...

is it too early for predictions for tomorrow’s time trial?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

benna and av going for those intermediate sprint pts

benna 2nd
av 3rd

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

new word
Lopez is on a fastish descent now.

from CN. say that five times fastishly…

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Ohhh dammit...

… I forgot my mp3 player at home… how exactly does one go to the gym without one???

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

ouch

that is suckage. if your gym is anything like my gym, you are doomed to listen to 80s mtv bands while you do whatever it is you do in the gym. gah, the horror.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

"whatever it is I do"

Usually… we hold a Proust reading followed by classes on neo-romantic interior design.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So laughing - and here I thought you actually worked out.

Thank goodness I had my Ipod as on the tv I could see the New Kids On The Block doing a song or something.
So happy to tune all that out with a little Kid Rock.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 2, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

intriguing. strange customs you have there in la ;-)

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did Kroon do over the weekend?

;-)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

hmmm...
Another factor affecting the aggression of riders is that most of them have their contracts sorted out for next season. The Tour is the time when many deals are done, so there’s plenty of motivation then to show yourself.

Would the Vuelta benefit from being shortened, or having its position in the calendar changed? It’s hard to know. What’s certain is that the Olympics has made things tougher for the riders who competed there; they didn’t get much of a break after the Tour.

CN

something to discuss while waiting for the pace to pick up…?

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

heh, i suppose

except that i see a whole lot of riders still not confirmed one way or the other.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gosh, what an interesting day we're having.

The supposed Benna/Pippo conflict sounds like it could provide some fun….have they had a fight yet?!

by Albertina on Sep 2, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made it back in time,

looks Iike I haven’t missed much action today…

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 2, 2008 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

not until the final km

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

complete snore

except for the company, of course.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't we just have a vuelta of mountain top finishes?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Eschelons...

echelons? etch-a-sketch-alons?

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Ohhh THAT'S why the GC looks a bit confusing to me...

… there must be time bonuses right?

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

yes

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries

Tomorrow’s looming over everyone. And if Schumacher wins, my head may well explode.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry to bring a note of shallowness...

…but does anyone else not think that Schumi’s head looks really odd when he’s wearing an aero helmet?

by Albertina on Sep 2, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big head... weird legs...

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cabeza

I thought he just painted his dome for time trials.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol!

Just emitted a little giggle at my desk…must look like I’m working hard!

by Albertina on Sep 2, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

i commented in this further up – his helmet always looks too big.

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

He so does!

I was wondering what he reminded me of! Those mushroom thingies look like the toadstool we had to skip around in Brownies :-)

by Albertina on Sep 2, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boooooonen

My Flemish cycling pal is certainly voting for him

It certainly looks like a sprint finish today

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 2, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh

my Bruce Gap appears to be going out…

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes... Bruce is already all the way at the...

Finnish line…

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I know... it's bad... it's so, so, bad...

and I most likely did damage to my personal karma by posting that.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah, no damage to your

personal karma, I’m sure of that, I can see the future after all! ;)

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 2, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finnish Line?

That is excellenet really Swede!

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 2, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Touché... touché

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the bottom?

Have we finally got there?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

… it’s all up in quality and tone from here.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

How does this guy provide the commentary without a booth-mate?

Seriously… four hours of blathering by yourself??!? Dude’s an animal.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I know

respect. Must have a wicked brew on hand.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scheirlinckx abandoned...

dammit! Team Motoescapism now down by one…

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

What is the intestinal bug that's ripping through them?

It sounds intense, not like the standard 12/24 hour thing.

by JFS_PGH on Sep 2, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only put him on mine...

… because I wanted to type “nckx” all season. See how that’s going for me?

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am doubling my VDS budget in 2009

Form 5 euros to 10 euros for a couple of magazines to give me a clue

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 2, 2008 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm right there with you...

… I mentioned months and months ago what my strategy was for picking my season long team… I picked most of them based entirely on whether I liked the way Phil Liggett pronounced their name.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey

I respect anyone with a strategy.

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 2, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

regrettably i must now abandon...

for the day. as father would say every morning on this way out the door, “i’m off to the snake pit!”

enjoy the stage!

by nicknorco on Sep 2, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

NOOOO!

Just as the attacks start?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

How far to go?

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

my "high res" feed looking really grainy now

Is it getting worse or am I just more aware of it during the closer shots?

by JFS_PGH on Sep 2, 2008 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

No... the "High Res" feed is anything but...

… even considering that the feed from Spanish TV is a low def one…

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

25.7k to go...

My timing’s all off… I should have gone to the gym earlier so I’d be back for the finish… I’m definitely out of practice with the whole “shoehorning work into my cycling viewing” thing…

I gotta head out friends… catch up with y’all later.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Tut tut.

Is it not a given that cycling coverage dictates one’s work patterns?

by Albertina on Sep 2, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another stage with wide perfectly surfaced highways

Spoiled riders!

I hope some of these mountain stages are bumpy and narrow (and typically Spanish)

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 2, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

CTV announcer must like maps...or be eager for the race to end...

3rd time, I think, that he’s explained that if the cyclists went off course at a certain intersection, they could get to the finish line much faster. Cute conversational tic. I’m liking him more as I get used to him.

by JFS_PGH on Sep 2, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

nice all-over sweat sheen on that lampre rider

given how dry it is, must be sweating like a horse

by JFS_PGH on Sep 2, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

marino ....

moreno rides for cde

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

contador tests his legs on that little incline

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Contador

nips a time bonus? Cheeky.

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 2, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

i think it's more he never met an incline he wouldn't attack

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

little crash

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

paulinho, di gregorio

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

still need to get the other two

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

without crashing on both sides....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

And how about

when some just ride straight across the middle

by Monty. on Sep 2, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

benna gets more intermediate sprint pts

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

i'll rewind and see

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

no crash for lampre rider

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

road block

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

looks more like slaughter on the highway

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

2km

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

bettini in the midst of the liqui train

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

schumi in the crash

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

waiting for a bike it looks like

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

slight uphill

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

come on benna....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I've been waiting for you to post.

Great way to get through this lovely little screwed up day.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 2, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but that gold jersely looks terrible with those lime-green shorts.

If he cares anything for style, he’ll let someone else take over the race lead.

by majope on Sep 2, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed, even on Benna that's not a great look.

Benna in the race lead means more Benna podium time however. Perhaps we could club together to buy him some gold shorts?

by Albertina on Sep 2, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

BENNA

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

spanish commentators mentioning sastre, kloden, contador

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

in crash

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

wow!

In the 3 K, so no time problems?

by JFS_PGH on Sep 2, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

klodi may be out???

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

3km mark

is rule for same time if crashed

by cyclingchallenge on Sep 2, 2008 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

like that rule, i do

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and tve-international cuts off

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

was freire among them?

that’s his specialty

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 2, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

finish and GC (provis)

Fin(n)ish:

Benna
Boonen
Koldo
Napolitano
Zabel
Avermaet
Weylandt
Vigano
Roche @ 3
Chavanel @ 3

GC:
Benna
Boonen @ 22
VV @ 48
Zabel @ 51
Anton @ 59
Garate @ 1:01
Ballan @ 1:02
Avermaet @ 1:04
Flecha @ 1:04
Egoi M. @ 1:05

by JFS_PGH on Sep 2, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Reading PdC threads

really is the superior way to experience a flat Vuelta stage. I am no longer sad not to have access to tv-coverage.
 
And yes, finnishline , we have officially bottomed out. Time to re-format.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I see you in the posts and I always think of "Hearthbreak Ridge"...

… “when the Highway meets the Swede”

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant: "Heartbreak Ridge"

As opposed to Hearthbreak Ridge … Heath Bar Ridge … Heather Ridge, IL … or Tom Ridge…

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because we're holding hands,

doesn’t mean we’ll be taking warm showers together in the wee hours of the morning.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there anything more beautiful in this world...

… than listening to Clint Eastwood curse in Heartbreak Ridge or In The Line of Fire

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yes and no. He's fantastic in those to be sure,

but Robert DeNiro in all of Midnight Run is absolute poetry.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Duke had it coming

" I said if I were your accountant"

I love that character.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"You're a grown man Jack, nobody can put words in your mouth"

“You’re goddam right, and I got two words for you – shut the f*** up.”

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You need to stop now

My Midnight Run DVD is in storage and I have no way of getting to it. It’s killing me.

“have a sandwich, do some f’***ing thing”

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confession time...

… I’ve never seen Midnight Run… but now feel compelled to purchase it.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this gonna upset me?

tee hee hee…. this has to be the first I’ve seen and know and you don’t. Woo hoo!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 2, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me 24 hours...

… and I’ll re-adjust the scales on that balance.

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on...

It’s like the only one. And will probably be the only one – ever.
I tend to stand a chance on the older ones as college days lent time to a lot of late night movie watching. Now, not so much.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 2, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like I don't even know you anymore. You'd better purchase it tonight.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I look like him too

(If he had spent his time in the gym discussing Proust and interior decorating, that is)

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Instead of swallowing steroids and

moving metric tons of weights?

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gyms have weights?

I have no first-hand knowledge.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too many

Luktefish and Reindeer smoothies eh?

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're not bad actually

A little crunchy from the antlers, otherwise delicious. You wouldn’t believe the number of calories though.

(Also Drew, putting a k in lutefisk makes it “smellyfish”, which isn’t entirely incorrect but still….)

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So gross.

I think Rebecca and I will stick to our lite girlie coffee drinks. Thanks.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 2, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies your Majesty

(snark)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no

You’ve outed my secret identity

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brilliant!

You look just like Danny’s father from Hot Fuzz.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that Kelsey Grammar from "Down Periscope"?

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

a sugestion

found a site for Benna fans.
It may be that one day he will thank you personally. :P

by semprenaroda on Sep 2, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

These pages 'declined to open'. Huh?

How dare the interweb restrict my hotitude access!

by Albertina on Sep 2, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

si..

Dude needs bubble wrap. There were a bunch of crashes at the end of the stage, and Cunego got caught up in one of them. He’s having the worst sort of luck in the grand tours this year. Amstel was lovely, though.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't in the

inside 3K crash? He lost time?

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 2, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cunego

He apparently crashed with some others in the middle of the pack at 10 km to go. He chased, and made it back to the bunch, but was then delayed by another crash. He didn’t actually go down the second time, but the road was blocked and he and some others at the back couldn’t go through. He said he wasn’t injured, and that while he is sorry to lose time, it’s not a big deal, because his main objective is to chase stages at this Vuelta. “It is not a drama,” he said.

twotoebeachy has the story.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably

there were several at the end of the stage, it sounds like.

i wasn’t awake early enough to watch it. d’oh.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Early enough??!???

The finale was at about 9AM!!!

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

9am local time

is like middle of the night Gav time.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

i just assumed it was over long before i got my interwebs turned on. i probably could have caught the ending, if i tired hard enough.

gav <— will try harder tomorrow.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

bleh

that should be: tried hard enough

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's ok...

you can tire yourself as hard as you want… we’ll be patient!

I know, it said "als" instead of "ist"... don't give me any crap...

by crashdan on Sep 2, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That so did not sound right Dan...

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 3, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to CSC, Sastre was also in those mix ups

but is okay.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 2, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Way too many crashes

for what was supposed to be an unexciting stage.

by Katiek on Sep 2, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

watching it live today

they showed two crashes just briefly, apparently there were more and many riders lost big time, especially Klöden and Cunego…

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 2, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Let me guess

Klodi broke his cocycx……..again.

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 2, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

that is painfull.....

They didn’t show any video what happened behind the leaders, so impossible to say what went on there.
Team site says Klöden flatted just under the 3k sign, but you never know….
We’ll see how he rides tomorrow.

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 2, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat regardless

Klodi is 5:10 down on GC after today. He’s now a support rider though a good TT tomorrow could move him up in the standings.

by ursula on Sep 2, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he can still podium if he can climb......

that said, I think he is going to be a super domestic for Levi and Alberto now…

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 2, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

si...

but I didn’t think much of his GC chances for this race. Too much steep climbing for him. Good pick for the crono, though, if he didn’t crash himself up too badly.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true, he can't handle the steep climbs

Angliru will kill him, especially since he hasn’t ridden it before, same will probably happen to Levi…

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 2, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schumacher

The Gerolsteiner DS isn’t certain that Schumacher will be able to start tomorrow. Also, Zaugg lost 42 seconds in one of the crashes at the end.

I didn’t see any deets on Klödie’s situation, beyond that he crashed.

by Jen See on Sep 2, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

This is all I could get

from the Astana site:

Today’s stage 4 in the 63rd Vuelta a España was the site of just such a crash and several team Astana riders were detained, namely Muravyev, Bazayev and Paulinho. Sergio hurt his knee a little but should be okay. Leipheimer and Contador got tangled up when Vaitkus crashed. Levi had braked and slid to avoid Tomas and didn’t crash himself, but Alberto was behind him, somehow attached to Levi or his bike as he went sliding through fallen riders. And finally, Andreas flatted just before the 3km barrier and UCI was unwilling to adjust his time

by Katiek on Sep 2, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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