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¡Viva la Vuelta! Post-Race Finale

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Here are today's stage results and the final general classification.

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i'm sure it has a specific name.... just don't remember

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit

can a brutha get an acronym?

"If writing too much about the Classics is wrong, I don't want to be right."

by Chris Fontecchio on Sep 22, 2008 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

that G

has time on her hands I think….

by Christopher See on Sep 21, 2008 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

lol, nah

just lots of practice with non-English characters

by Jen See on Sep 21, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yaay for Breschel!!!

First really big win. As a fan I have to say it’s been a long time coming. Next stop, victory in Gent-Wevelgem!

Thank’s for the live updates, you’ve made a lurker happy.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 21, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Was supposed to have a day off

for the first time since I don’t know when, and then someone calls in sick and I have to work anyway…………

Tried the Jens! “shut up body”-method but failed miserably. Once you have set your mind on a day of relaxation there is no way to get back into work-mode.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 21, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Si...

I like that guy. Good to see him get this one. Gent would be sweet. Or, het Volk.

by Jen See on Sep 21, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smart kid too

This is a slightly improved googletranslation of an interview taken from feltet.dk :

Matti Breschel won the absolute biggest career victory when he won the final stage in Madrid in the Vuelta a Espana. But there is no time to rest on its laurels for the young talent already on their way to Italy and World Cup.

 Matti Breschel layed today yet another layer to his great talent, as he won the final mass sprint in the season’s last major stagerace, Vuelta a Espana. The Danish rider was given for the first time during the full support of virtually the entire team to prepare for sprint.
"We drove up and got a couple of riders to lead, among other Blaudzun, Kolobnev and Kroon. And it is clear that when we sit there with a couple of man, it is easier to stay in the front. . My goal was to sit in the top-5 in the final bend with one kilometer to go. There was a little crash and it was a bit chaotic, which was slightly to my advantage, because no team was very structured. I tried to play cool. I knew it was a tailwind sprint, and it probably opened on the right side. I took a chance and opened the sprint with 300 meters to go completely over on the left side and hoped that no one sat in on wheels, "said Matti Breschel after the victory of Feltet.dk, there is no doubt that it was the biggest career victory.

"No, no doubt. ." It was huge. "

Semi Sprinter
 The victory at the last stage in the large stageraces is usually reserved for the greatest sprinters. But despite the victory, Matti Breschel still doesn’t see himself as a super sprinter, although he continues to rate higher and higher in that discipline.

"Somehow you need to look at who it is I am up against. It is semi sprinters like me, who are competing for it today. There are many of the great riders who have dropped out of the race and the times I’ve tried(against the best), I was in 10-11 place. . It is obviously something I’m good at but it is not something I train for. . The only way to practice it on is really to do it again and again. . I try every time I have a chance. The past year has been better and I’ve really had the courage to go for it, and use elbows and shoulders a little more, "explained Matti Breschel, who has not had time to celebrate the victory, for it is a very important World Champs in the coming weeks.

"I think I wait to celebrate this victory until after the season is over. I try to keep focus. Of course it is tempting to go out and celebrate it with some good red wine. But we take it quietly. Me and Blaudzun live on the airporthotel are both focused on the World Champs. We take it calmly, "stresses Matti Breschel.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 22, 2008 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice interview, thanks!

looking forward to next season with that guy.

by Jen See on Sep 22, 2008 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mentioned it in the other thread

but that podium that looks like the side of a big truck, just isn’t that impressive

by Katiek on Sep 21, 2008 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

ya think?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that his girlfriend

leading the Contador song (and holding the podium flowers)?

by Katiek on Sep 21, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

should be macarena... you understand i have no vid of this at the moment...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, gotta get ready for "football" viewing... see y'all on tuesday for the men's U23 time trial?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Congrats to Breschel

I’m really happy for him, but will admit that my happiness is overshadowed a bit by my sadness at the other CSC-Sexy Bank news from this afternoon – suddenly Varese is looking a whole lot less exciting and interesting…

by Gemma on Sep 21, 2008 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

No Cance at Varese

he’s tired after this long season and not feeling great after getting soaked for a week in Poland, but I think it’s mroe the former than the latter.

It won’t be the same without him…

by Gemma on Sep 21, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know!

Even though I had a feeling that this was going to be the decision in the end, it’s still a total bummer. I just can’t get excited about Varese now :(

by Gemma on Sep 21, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

World Champs news I don't know where to post...

Cance is apparently no longer going, this from CSC directly in an e-mail newsletter thingie earlier this morning.

No World Championship Fabian Cancellara
[21.09 16:42] After a long season and sickness following the bad weather conditions in Tour de Pologne Fabian Cancellara has decided not to join the battle for the rainbow coloured jersey next week in Italy

by guidemd on Sep 21, 2008 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

sounds like everyone knows

 but I couldn’t find it anywhere else

by guidemd on Sep 21, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

that’s the news that has me all down. I tried posting it in a fanpost but it doesn’t seem to be working at the moment

by Gemma on Sep 21, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

no benna, no cance.... what's a girl to do

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apart from pretending the world's aren't happening???

No Cav either, and no Evans (not that I’m a Cadel fan) or Jens! or Sastre etc … these are looking like some of the worst World’s for a while in terms of who’s not there

by Gemma on Sep 21, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

no Evans

and i am a Cadel fan… his season just sorta slipped off into the sunset…

agreed about the others – less excitement (of the racing kind)… but then, it might set up opportunities for others to shine when out from under the shadows of the big names…

by nicknorco on Sep 21, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yes

“slipped” being the operative word…

had to get there before anyone else did ;)

by nicknorco on Sep 21, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

the time trial for instance looks good now for those whose surname begins with L (Leipheimer or Larsson).

I feel sorry for them in the sense that despite the fact that they can only compete against those who are there and if people aren’t then there’s nothing they can do about that, but whoever wins the ITT now will face the same problem that Sastre is going to face for the next year (with people saying he only won because Bert wasn’t there) namely that people will remind them ‘yeah but Cancellara wasn’t there’

Fact his the winner won’t care (nor should he) and neither will the record books, but you can still see that fact being thrown at them :)

I know Cance is wanting to move away from being known so much as a time trialer in future, but I hope he still rides it at next year’s World’s especially as they are in Switzerland next time round

by Gemma on Sep 21, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cadel

if you missed it, he had a few race reports from Poland up under “news” at his website – sounded like he was using the race as training, presumably as in “training after injury” not “training for a specific goal” – interesting bits about the miserable conditions, and seemed happy for some of the winners (comments about Davis, Roelandts, Jens!). Funny when he mentioned how lots of riders were thinking more about their holiday plans… (I think he was one of only 3 *Lotto riders to finish, the 2 youngsters Roelandts and DeGreef as well, but every other *Lotto rider pulled out at some point. I’m hoping that Pez will get a “Dario’s Diario” from Cioni about Poland …)

oh, and I did a fanpost about general worlds stuff as there didn’t seem to be anywhere particular to discuss Cancellara… and some weird bits I noticed from the UCI startlist…

by guidemd on Sep 21, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

those were good entries on his website – enjoyable to hear more from a relaxed Cadel. Roelandts is looking like another one to watch…

if anyone earned a break from worlds it’s Tony, after all he did in the Olympics coming off powerhousing through the TdF.

poor Dario seems to be having a better time of it with olive oil these days…

by nicknorco on Sep 21, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

well done Greg Van A!

did i mention that i’m a fan? i’m even more pleased having picked him as captain of my Vuelta VDS team – belief confirmed :)

i also need to mention Mr. Roche and Mr. Cornu – strong showings in keeping with the Neofighters team concept. both look to be real up-and-comers…

and props to Chav for getting us in the points early on!

by nicknorco on Sep 21, 2008 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

What about the Sastre-Riis situation?

It’s just sitting there looking plain ugly, and it looks as if Bjarne is the ugly-doer. I wonder if we’ll ever know what he did when he made his drive-through at the Vuelta. (He didn’t stick around, or have I got that wrong?) Must have been something to get Carlos so riled up. Hard to imagine why BJ would have torpedoed his own team though. Is he that vindictive? And what for?

by NE Observer on Sep 21, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know what Sastre was expecting

quite frankly when it came to the Vuelta line-up. There was never going to any way the TdF team(or even most of it) were going to be there for the Vuelta – not with post Beijing rest, Deutschland on etc and the fact that at this stage of the season another 3-week GT was going to be too much

As for the whole thing about when the change of team for Sastre was going to be announced I can see it from both sides – from Sastre’s pov he’d want to leave it and concentrate on the race, but from the team’s pov the constant questions and speculation where a distraction for the same reason.

And when push comes to shove, Riis has to put the best interests of the team first, not a rider who won’t be there next season

I guess this is my rambling way of saying that like most things there is no doubt fault on both sides and neither are a totally innocent party

by Gemma on Sep 21, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you on all counts

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 22, 2008 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Sastre is making a bit too much of this

but yes, Riis has a long memory bordering on vindictiveness.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 22, 2008 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

JRod was taken to hospital,

he crashed and lost his GC spot. Worlds is unsure now for him, too bad.

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 21, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

official site still has jrod 6th on gc....

the crash occurred within the final 3km….
did jrod not cross the finish line?
everyone on the stage was given the same finishing time

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

both ES and CTV

were wondering the same, we’ll see, but he wasn’t on the either ones top 10 anymore…

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 21, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

update from CN
Crash mars Vuelta finale

A crash in the final kilometres of the Vuelta a España’s last stage in Madrid on Sunday marred an otherwise perfect day of racing in the Spanish capital. Caisse d’Epargne’s Joaquin Rodriguez was one of the riders who went down, and was suspected to have a fractured clavicle, which could have ended his participation in next week’s World Championships.

EFE reported that Rodriguez received stitches on his left arm, but did not sustain any broken bones. He finished the final stage, and kept his sixth place in the final general classification. He could still be in doubt for the Worlds, in which case his teammate Pablo Lastras or Astana’s Jose Luis Rubiera could be called in as a replacement.

Andalucia-Cayasur’s Jose Ruiz also finished the race, but was later taken to the hospital with a suspected collarbone fracture.

by nicknorco on Sep 21, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was wandering around looking at Vuelta coverage, and saw this

over at Pez:

Rumour has it that the anticipated Lance/Bert face-off might actually see them in different teams next year! There you go … Pez has tipped you all the wink, so stay tuned to find out more in the coming days!

Wonder what they know that we don’t? Just the old Bert-to-Caisse rumor, or something else?

by majope on Sep 21, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

bunch of rumor

in the Spanish press and elsewhere over the last few days that Contador and Bruyneel have a “chilly” relationship at this point and he is likely to leave the team. Caisse is one of the possible destinations as is Katyusha.

by Jen See on Sep 21, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is very hard to believe

after all the succes he has with the team so far……..

by Bruce Suomi on Sep 21, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

just rumorage for now

me, i think the spanish press have been watching too much bike racing and drinking too much sangria. they’re just having way too much fun stirring the pot this week ;-)

by Jen See on Sep 21, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johan seems too smart/calculating

to sacrifice the possibiity of many years of a top GC rider for one more year at the Lance circus, unless he so misread the situation that he didn’t think he’d alienate Alberto by pushing him out of the top spot for a year. But what the heck do I know?

by Katiek on Sep 21, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense

Apparently, the coolness between Contador and Bruyneel is not a new thing – it’s just been worsened by the Armstrong fandango. Again, rumorage, of course.

by Jen See on Sep 21, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, but remember how accurate spanish rumorage has been this year

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, yep

i’m still thinkin’ too much sangria in the press room. not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course ;-)

by Jen See on Sep 21, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks as if it could be a Sicilian kiss

Johan & Bert, I mean.

Johan & Levi — what’s with Astana and bananas?

by NE Observer on Sep 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like bananas. Bananas are good.

“Don’t drop the banana!”
“Why not?”
“Good source of potassium.”

50 geek points to whoever recognizes that.

by majope on Sep 22, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You Whovian, you.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Sep 22, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Busted.

But then again, so are you.

by majope on Sep 22, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

D’oh!

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Sep 22, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were Bert

I’d blame my uniform/director for not being able to race the Tour, and I’d be looking for a new one of each.

by Softie on Sep 21, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winners

Contador – Leipheimer – Sastre
Not a bad podium for the Vuelta I guess. With the TdF winners of the last two editions present.
I wonder who is more happy: Contador with 2 first places in Giro and Vuelta or Sastre with a first place in the TdF and a third in the Vuelta. I guess it’s the latter.

by Lopex on Sep 21, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Bert said (in public, anyway) that he's got no regrets about this season,

wouldn’t trade another Tour win for everything he’s done. His year has been BIG!

by dheadrick on Sep 21, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure at the beginning of the season

if you’d given him a choice of the TDF or the other two GT’s, he’d have picked the TDF to race, but given how things have turned out, he’s got to be happy to have joined one of the most elite group in cycling. Ending the season with the “career grand slam” has probably done more for his reputation, then a second TDF would have, although certainly the second TDF is his next goal.

by Katiek on Sep 21, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a second.

The Vuelta is over. The Worlds start Tuesday. What the heck am I supposed to do tomorrow morning—work?

by majope on Sep 21, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

shocking isn't it....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 21, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've just got back from holiday to find a mountain of work to do.

And no cycling to get me through the afternoon. I feel like sobbing :-(

by Albertina on Sep 22, 2008 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know...

Monday morning with no Vuelta or anything else to spark the day… :(

by nicknorco on Sep 22, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

I’m just lucky enough to work at home. Which isn’t as much fun as it sounds, because I’m way more of a bitch than even my last boss, and have been known to make myself work nights and weekends if I’m not productive enough during the day.

But on the other hand, I will turn a blind eye if I need to go out for a little exercise.

by majope on Sep 22, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i resemble that scenario.... tho the go out for exercise is only when the temps are below 30 F

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 22, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a special recruitment agency for hot temps?

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Sep 22, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Pro Cycling

the night of festivities began with a visit to the Kazakh embassy in Madrid where Alberto and Levi were presnted with “shapans” – traditional Kazakh clothing. Why are there no pictures of this, darn it!

by Katiek on Sep 21, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh surely there was a photographer there!

Extensive web search coming up at lunchtime……

by Albertina on Sep 22, 2008 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Sep 22, 2008 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

was looking for something else when found it

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Sep 22, 2008 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dance? Yes.

Now that would make essential viewing.

by Albertina on Sep 22, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

it might look like this

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Sep 22, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I would probably pay

to see the riders doing that dance. That would be hilarious.

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 22, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would certainly

liven up the team presentations at the start of a race :)

by Katiek on Sep 22, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could offer up

bonus seconds for the team with the best moves… :-)

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 23, 2008 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

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