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Sastre to Katyusha?

The Sastre story takes another twist today. It was widely expected that Sastre would hold a press conference today, in order to announce his decision to sign with the new Cervélo team, registered in Switzerland. Instead, l'Équipe reports that the Sastre has signed with Katyusha.

The new contract between the Spanish Tour winner and the Russian team will reportedly run two years. The official announcement will occur after the Vuelta has finished on 21 September, out of respect for Sastre's leadership of CSC-Saxo Bank.

The last word on the Sastre story? Maybe. Cue Sastre's denial of the story in 3, 2...

Update: Sastre has now denied the story. Sadly, I did not get an elapsed time on how long it took for him to issue his denial.

Update:The kids at l'Équipe have now updated their story, substituting Cervélo for Katyusha. For added entertainment, Katyusha remains in the url. The contract is still reportedly for two years.

Bottom line? We still do not know where Sastre will sign. So much fun to watch the press get themselves all dizzy trying to keep up with the story.

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Carlos don't do it

for me, Katyusha has all the ear marked of too much money and not enough direction. chaos. but oh well, maybe it’s worth it for a year to rake in the well deserved big bucks …

by lyne on Sep 3, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Huh?

I’m not seeing the too much money and not enough direction angle but maybe you see things clearer. What I see is a fairly well run Tinkoff pro continental squad with extra cash so they are going out to find riders who can win stages and GC’s. IF Sastre signs with Katyusha then he should have decent support for a Grand Tour- at lest as much support as Cadel Evans and more support than Christian Vandevelde.

But again maybe you see something I don’t.

by ursula on Sep 3, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cash in Carlos!

Dude paid his dude, now that he’s won and paid Bjarne back, it is time for him to build up a nest egg to retire on. If I were him, I wouldn’t care if Katusha was another Coast or even another Sony Ericcson or Linda McCartney, as long as the check clears!

Seriously, this guy has been a loyal worker and gregario for ages, putting the team before himself and buying 100% into Bjarne’s system. This paid of wonderfully for all involved. Now is the time to strike while the iron is hot and then retire.

The rule of thumb with professional athletes is that you don’t get paid for what you do during THIS contract cycle, you get paid for what you did during the LAST contract cycle. Sastre has been following the Jens Voight model of professional cycling comportment long enough. He’s earned the right to follow the Roman Vainstains model from here on out!

Brooklyn Chewing Gum: Vlaanderens Mooiste

by Koppenberg on Sep 3, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Harsh...

… Aren’t we all romantics here though? Great use of Roman Vainsteins in a comment and all, but when Brett Farvre wants to return to your team after BEING your team for the last 10 years, you welcome him with open arms and empty your bank account!!!!

Sh*t, I hate it when someone else is right.

Never, ever, work with a sprinter.

by Put 'Em in the Gutter on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh... Favre...

He was the team for longer than just the past 10. I’m so happy good cycling is still going on so I can brush past the crap I am getting at work these days with Brett. Nothing like living in Bear’s territory and now having Favre as a Jet. (Well at least the Bear’s still suck… ha ha ha!)

Ruthann…. how are you doing sweetie? Are you avoiding it as well until cycling is over?

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 3, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm doing great! And yes, I'm trying to avoid it, but it's hard,

in part because everyone is WI is still so in love with him, and also because it’s all anyone can talk about. Being a Packer fan, for us, is not a predilection, but an honored duty. I’m choosing to wish Brett well and also pray for Aaron Rodgers to kick some serious ass at the opener with the Vikings. (Otherwise going to work – in MN – next Tuesday is going to be extremely painful.)

Also, Nikki dear, remember that the game is on at 6pm on ESPN on Monday; dunno what’s up with the strange game time.

by Ruthann on Sep 4, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha - so true.

Was back home over the weekend and it truly is still the talk. :-) I so hope Rogers has a good game and that he does kick some butt!! Should be a good game. I’ll be down at the TOM but hopefully I can talk a few friends into catching some of the game after the stage. I so feel for you and you will get extra cheers from me for them to win. Living down here certainly is bad at times. The guys I work I think spend way too much time with coming up with crap to dish out. LOL!

Hope hubby is doing well!!!

"The most wasted day is that in which we have not laughed."

by nikki on Sep 4, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno
I vehemently deny it

That doesn’t sound like ‘maybe’…

by Hons on Sep 3, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

YEah - that sounds like yes in cyclese

After all doesn’t it go something like

I would never…..
I don’t know how…
I didn’t……
I am tranquil!

Oh, sorry that was the line of language for doping not transfer news. Whoops ;-)

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Sep 3, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just denied

that he has signed with Katyusha, not that he’s likely to sign with them. Wherever he ends up, I hope it’s a good fit for him (whether for his competition goals or financially). I’ve always sort of liked him, but he really won me over when he rode himself to exhaustion to help Valverde and Sanchez in the Olympics.

by Katiek on Sep 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

From VN
“I have not signed with Tinkoff (Katusha). I vehemently deny it,” Sastre said after Wednesday’s stage. “When I make a decision about my future everyone will know it with an official statement.”

And BTdub, I love the way Velonews posts a headline like “Sastre to sign with…” and then later changes the headline to “Sastre denies…” but then leaves the story almost exactly the same. Weak!

To CN’s credit, they usually live with their mistakes when they make ‘em. Hmmm, they haven’t posted a newsflash on the story yet….

Never, ever, work with a sprinter.

by Put 'Em in the Gutter on Sep 3, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

got a time stamp on how long it took for him to deny it?

that’s the part i was waiting for…

by Jen See on Sep 3, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have way...

…too much time on your hands. Wait a minute. My glass house just came crashing in on me. It’ll take me a minute to…

Never, ever, work with a sprinter.

by Put 'Em in the Gutter on Sep 3, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, probably so

that, and i’m far too easily entertained for my own good.

the shenanigans around this story definitely made me giggle.

by Jen See on Sep 3, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confirmed an rumored for Katyusha

Is anyone keeping a running list, or can anyone provide one, of who has been confirmed and rumored to be going to the Russian Rockets. I’m trying to figure out how the team would support Carlos if he came over, but can’t remember who is all riding for them, except:

Steegmans – Confirmed
McCewan – Confirmed
Karpets – Confirmed
Pozzato – Confirmed

Sastre – Rumors

by PopUp Rolen on Sep 3, 2008 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

according to velo-club

Botcharov (Rus – Crédit Agricole)
Colom Mas A. (Esp – Astana)
Contoli A. (Ita)
De Haes K. (Bel – Topsport)
Horrach J. (Esp – Caisse d’Epargne)
Graziato M. (Ita)
Karpets V. (Rus – Caisse d’Epargne)
Marycz J. (Pol)
McEwen R. (Aus – Silence-Lotto)
Pozzato F. (Ita – Liquigas)
Shpilesky B. (Rus – Preti Mangimi)
Steegmans G. (Bel – Quick Step)
Vandenbergh S. (Bel – AG2R)

by lyne on Sep 3, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Botcharov...

…was busted?? Am I mixing him up with someone else or was he cleared?

Never, ever, work with a sprinter.

by Put 'Em in the Gutter on Sep 3, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like reading War and Peace

So many “ov’s” so little time. That was Fofonov who got busted.

by ursula on Sep 3, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, so true.

Err, Prince who? Where’s that handy character list?

by Albertina on Sep 3, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

their team site

scroll down to the last edition of the gossip – there’s a linky to their team site with all their new acquisitions.

by Jen See on Sep 3, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

VN updates their story AGAIN...

HERE – now they claim:

Sastre was later said to be on the brink of signing a two-year deal with the Canadian Cervelo team. Other reports have predicted that Sastre will sign with the U.S.-based Garmin-Chipotle team.

by swells on Sep 3, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

that is 3 times in less than 5 minutes. crazy

are they trying to be quicker than the posts here?

by humbug1 on Sep 3, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

ha!

l’equipe has updated – lol, they changed the headline, but left the story.

funny shit, this thingy.

by Jen See on Sep 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Since Midníght Run was movie of the day yesterday

this phonescene seemed oddly appropriate for the Sastre story:

- Stop fuckin’ around. Where are you?
   
-Where am I? I’m in Boise, Idaho.
No, wait a minute.
I’m in Anchorage, Alaska.
No, wait.
I’m in Casper, Wyoming.
I’m in the lobby of the Howard Johnson’s
and I’m wearing a pink carnation.
                   
-What are you talkin’ about?
-I’m not talkin’ to you.
I’m talkin’ to the other guys. (the guys tapping the phone)

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

nice one :-)

i like that the article at l’equipe still includes the list of riders hired by katyusha so far.

by Jen See on Sep 3, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that movie!

And tied to cycling, too, nicely done.

by Rushfan on Sep 3, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I swear to God

I’ll shoot him and throw him in a fuckin’ ditch!"

(shakes head indicating he won’t)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 4, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Danish newspaper "Politiken" (solid morningpaper, not News of the World)

saying he is very close to signing a two year deal with Cervelo, according to “exceptionally well informed sources”.

I’m not believing anything until I hear it from Carlos’ lips though.

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 4, 2008 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

yep, right there with ya

when carlos confirms, i believe. meanwhile, it’s fun to follow the rumorage :-P

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Link to

Spanish language mag in Chris’s top 10 thread says Cervelo…

by Christopher See on Sep 4, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

sastre news conference on friday's rest day

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 4, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

intriguing

Tend to think unless he’s announcing that he will prolong with CSC-Saxo, that there will be no news tomorrow. But really, it’s too bad we can’t jet on over to find out for sure…

B’sides, what ever are we going to gossip about if he actually does confirm as early as tomorrow? Gah, the horror.

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you is so funny....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 4, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

c'mon

you know you want to go to the press conference with me. it’d be fun. b’sides, i need you to figure out the time zones so that i get there on time ;-)

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

in marca.com

say that he goes to Cervello now, what a crosses of information!!!

by semprenaroda on Sep 4, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

si...

very confusing, this story. tomorrow, the press conference. lol, which will probably say nothing. sigh.

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

i bet that he only will say that going away from CSC, and no more…At this point is the one thing that is certain

by semprenaroda on Sep 4, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder if he even says that

i’m going with, “i will announce my future plans after the vuelta. until then, i have no further comment.”

lol, of course, now that i’ve posted that, he’ll spill the whole story :-)

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard a rumour

that the Cervelo team budget for riders was only $1.5 million – doesn’t seem be enough for both Sastre and a team … but then again, this was an A told B told C told D told me kind of rumour so who knows.

by guidemd on Sep 4, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The report in CN...

…says they are going to be a Pro Continental team and don’t yet have the title sponsor they are hoping for. $1.5 mil sounds low even for a Pro Conti team, but even without that it still seems like such a team would have a very hard time offering even remotely the type of money that Katyusha has to be offering—not to mention the other 5 teams that I’m sure would love to have him.

My guess would be that Katyusha is offering something like 2 mil and a few other teams are offering more like 1.2-1.6. The problem I see with Carlos if I’m one of the other teams is that there is no way he wins the Tour this year without a team like CSC. So, how are you gonna give him a team like that next year? You’re not, and so what’s his value to you? He’s a Tour winner, and that unlocks a lot of doors if that’s what you need, but sh*t…that’s an expensive key. Shouldn’t you get some wins for that price? Does Carlos win any races next year? And, even though Oscar Pereiro is a former Tour winner, how much is that guy worth?

I want to see Carlos go to a team like Quick-Step or Rabobank if he must leave CSC. They’ll pay him well, and they’ll treat him like a champ. He’ll get to ride out his last few years with some dignity. And I’ll tell you this, I think that’s what Carlos is looking for. If he was in this just for the dough, he would have had that a long time ago because he would have shot the junk and that would be that.

Carlos,

    Choke your pride and stay with CSC no matter what they offer you. You already have more than enough money to last the rest of your life, and your life starts tomorrow. Why would you want to ride like a mercenary for the next two years just so you can get the 735i instead of the 745i? Write some more cycling history with the Schlecks next year and then take the obligatory PR job for a few years after that. You’ll make me so much happier, and that counts for a lot!

~Troy

Never, ever, work with a sprinter.

by Put 'Em in the Gutter on Sep 5, 2008 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sastre words
It offers the opportunity to open frontiers and collaborate more actively with our sponsors and their clients.

seems he already thinking in next job after his retire from peloton…

by semprenaroda on Sep 5, 2008 6:20 AM EDT reply actions  

good for sastre

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Sep 5, 2008 6:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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