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More Team Bikes: Silence and Lotto

Two more new bike sponsors today!

Silence-Lotto will ride the German frameset, Canyon. Canyon previously sponsored the doomed Unibet.com. Hopefully, this new sponsorship will work out better. Read all about them on their lovely website.

Milram, meanwhile, will continue their effort to become the German team. Gone is Italian framemaker Colnago. Beginning next year, Milram will ride Focus, a German-based company with a full line of pedalables. Read all about them here.

Not as entertaining as transfer rumors. But I do like to drool over some nice new bikeys.

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Thanks, Gav. I like the mech. gossip, too.

Over at VN, Felt has re-upped with Garmin-Chipotle.

by swells on Sep 4, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

lol, yeah

In this case, I’ve never heard of either company, so there was some added entertainment to the thing.

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

so whatever happened to Colnago...?

out of business…???

live to ride, ride to live

by orangekick on Sep 4, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

colnago does seem to be getting edged out

rabo, milram gone but hey, at least they still have Tinkusha – maybe.

sponsorship help the brand but teams really don’t care about the ride – its the $$ support that they add to the program. If Riis truly believed Cervelo was the best he would have ensured they stuck with them – he pays for wheels and grouppo’s already.

Fact is all of these frames are so close in terms of ride that it really doesn’t matter – hell, sastre won with perhaps heaviest drivetrain and most flexible crankarm in the tour.

by humbug1 on Sep 4, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Tinkusha have signed with Ridley

Carlos Sastre - Tour de France winner - Born From Jets

by Jens on Sep 4, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely agree,

it’s about $$$ and these teams need the money more than ever….but what about Colnago…? Is there still a pro team out there riding Colnago into 2009…?

live to ride, ride to live

by orangekick on Sep 4, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd guess

that at least one of the lower tier Italian teams is on Colnago. I wonder also if they will sponsor the new ISD-Danieli team? I haven’t seen a bike sponsor for those guys just yet.

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard of Canyon, but not Focus.

Whatever…all these bikes are made in Taiwan anyway. Maybe Ryan’ll weigh in with some insight.

by swells on Sep 4, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Cannondale isn't :-)

At least the higher end frames aren’t.

“Cannondale is best bike”

- Mario Cipollini

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 4, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was strictly talking

the higher end Cannondale frames (CADD6 and up). I am fully aware that many don’t consider a Cannondale anything more than 6 cases of Budweiser empties pressed together. But I’m also of the opinion that for the price they deliver exactly what they advertise – a tough, light, stiff frame that accelerates rapidly out of corners and on climbs. It might not be what you want for a 5 day / 500 mile bike trip but it’s the bomb for road races and crits.

And yeah, to my knowledge the CADD 8s and System Six frames are still made in PA. At least mine was :-)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 4, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Super 6

is made in Asia. The CAAD’s are welded in PA.

My CAAD8 was fine on my 148 mile ride earlier in the summer. Regular rims and a little less tire pressure did the trick. the CAAD’s are nothing like the old 3.0 or 2.8 frames. Those will knock your fillings out.

by Peter Fontecchio on Sep 4, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just trying to bait you

into a Cannondale bashing session, but I can’t really argue with your answer…so now I’m tranquilo.

by swells on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And everything is claro.

;-)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 5, 2008 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trek's high end carbon still US

At lest some are still made in Wisconsin. The high end carbon stuff. I saw a Madone still had the Made in Wisconsin sticker at a store the other day.

by Markk on Sep 4, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I know.

I was just being generally snide. Check this out (from a link thru Leopard Bikes, not sure how old it is – but it makes you think).

by swells on Sep 4, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is generally accurate but the "Made in China" is not a bike industry standard...

its US customs and a frame made in china and painted in spain is – made in china.

Typically bike companies are not so much concerned about the origin as they are the duty that is charged from Taiwan and China – thats why they play with it.

by humbug1 on Sep 4, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drooling over bikes? Me too :-)

Whenever I’m out and about I always have my eye on the road and frequently say ‘ooo nice bike!’ to whoever I’m with. My friends think I’m a bit potty.

by Albertina on Sep 4, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

It drives my wife crazy. She says “I wish you’d just look at the ladies like normal person!”

by rocketpress on Sep 4, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol!

My parents get especially non-plussed by it (I don’t think they really get the whole cycling thing although my Dad will watch it). My male friends are always drooling over passing cars though and I don’t see what’s so different! I think we’re entirely normal ;-)

by Albertina on Sep 4, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

so funny. me, i look at both – the bike and the legs. life is too short to skimp on scenery.

by Jen See on Sep 4, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2 (hah)

“no, babe…I REALLY was just checking out the bike.” (just yesterday)

by swells on Sep 4, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

+3

in fact, i’ve been shopping for a new one lately and doing a fair bit of drooling, which sounds slightly disgusting as i write it, but there it is…

by nicknorco on Sep 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not disgusting at all.

I often go into bike shops just for some quality drooling time, even though I have no rational intention of purchasing……

by Albertina on Sep 5, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

CSF-Navigare

are they still around? They rode Colnago’s right?

I emailed CN with a “who’d on Colnago” next year question. They seem to get stuff like that pretty quickly.

by swells on Sep 4, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, that Irish team is still around. They rode the ToI last week. The Argentinian who got his vitamins mixed up even placed on one stage.

pounding along in three ratios like a sonata
like a Ritter with pommelled scrotum atra cura on the step
Botticelli from the fork down pestling the transmission
tires bleeding voiding zeep the highway

by fmk on Sep 4, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

UPDATE

from CN…they don’t know anything re: Colnago 2009 teams either.

by swells on Sep 5, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

At what point are there no Italian

bikes left on the Pro-Tour? CDE is still on Pinarello and Lampre’s on Wilier, but it’s getting sparse. 15 years ago the pro peleton was basically all Pinarello, Colnago, Bianchi, Coppi, and a host of others. Maybe a couple Look’s thrown into the mix. American bikes were a rarity until Saeco and Cipo were winning on Cannondales in the mid/late 90’s and then Lance’s run on Treks. Now American bikes are by all over the place.

by Peter Fontecchio on Sep 5, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Italian manufacturers have switched their

focus to the American amateur crowd :-)

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."

by Drew Davis on Sep 6, 2008 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it just represents

a full switch over to carbon. In the 80’s and 90’s there were countless Italian framebuilders working their magic with Columbus tubing and chrome lugs. There isn’t much need for those lugged beauties in the pro pelton now. I believe Colnago assembles the carbon tubes and lugs in Italy and their paint schemes are pure Ernesto, but Pinarello and DeRosa’s carbon entrees are Italian in name only.
Now the welding magic seems to limited to Dario Pegoretti and a host of talented US builders like Sascha White, Richard Sachs, Peter Mooney and the guys over at IF.

by Peter Fontecchio on Sep 6, 2008 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

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