Damsgaard under fire
This weekend a story appeared in one of Denmarks major morning newspapers "Berlingske Tidene" It contains some quotes from the Chief of Medicine at Bispebjerg Hospital who formerly employed Rasmus Damsgaard and administered the CSC anti-dopingprogram. He presents a not very flattering picture of why the hospital is no longer running the program and casts some doubt over the independence of Damsgaard.
I have translated the article in it's length below for you to read for yourselves. I am not sure what to make of it personally. At the least it points to the problematic nature of the team-financed AD-programs and the need for the UCI passport-program to become operational sooner rather than later.
I must say that the link to a major, goverment run, hospital played a large part in establishing a trust in the independence of the program. With a profit-driven company, whose sole source of income comes from the teams, doing the testing wherein lies their motivation to zealously test the riders? For Bispebjerg the 500.000€ (?) was a small amount in their budget that probably covered their expenses but didn't produce a significant surplus. Can the same be said for a small company like Damsgaards?
Some issues should be pointed out. The journalist Caruso has been critizised for over-zealous reporting on CSC in the past. Some info is somewhat outdated and not well explained.
Specifically the question of whether LA is included in the Astana testing-program should be resolved by now, although I must admit I'm personally not clear on what is what here dispite actively searching for that info. I can't really see a reason for Belhage to misrepresent the facts in this case, other than professional jealousy or possibly disappointment at no longer being part of the program.
Here is the translated article from Berlingske Tidende" plus an article with his response.
Denmark is the world leader in combating doping. It has been become so thanks to doping researcher Rasmus Damgaard, who has stood as independent controller of the world's best cyclingteams - Bjarne Riis' Team CSC Saxo Bank and Astana cycling team with the seven times Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong. Berlingske can today reveal that the doping hunter has let himself get seduced by millions and an expensive bike - a 'gift' from Bjarne Riis.
By Jesper Dahl Caruso
Last updated Saturday, 24 January 2009, 20:37
In December Chief of medicine Bo Belhage visited his colleague, Rasmus Damsgaard, in his home in Kongens Lyngby north of Copenhagen. In Belhages mind space,he harboured a nasty suspicion.
The two doctors have together developed the world's best anti-doping program, based on systematic blood and urine tests of some of the world's best cyclists. Last year's Tour de France winner Carlos Sastre, was part of this program. So are the top five favorites for this summers Tour de France, brothers Andy and Frank Schleck from Team CSC Saxo Bank and the three- Astana-cyclists, Alberto Contador, Lance Armstrong and Andreas Klöden.
All these cyclists deliver negative doping tests and yet they are still winning some of the world's biggest races in front of riders, who are subsequently disqualified for abuse of doping. And it is here, Bo Belhages doubts and suspicions come into play. As Rasmus Damsgaard’s boss, and chief of medicine and research director at Bispebjerg Hospital, he has the overall responsibility to make sure the hospital's anti-doping program can never be questioned medically or economically.
But in the autumn there were some things that woke the doctor's concern. It emerged that CSC rider Frank Schleck had tried to buy a training program for 60,000 dollars from the Spanish gynecologist, Eufemiano Fuentes, who is notoriously known as the man responsible for one of history's biggest doping scandals “Operación Puerto”.
"It is completely absurd to believe that it is ethically clean. Of course it rung untrue in my ears and made my desire to continue with the most ethical teams in the cycling world smaller. I was a little unsure about whether the ethical standards are as high as when we started"says Bo Belhage today.
Another episode is about American Lance Armstrong comeback in the cycling world. The seventime Tour de France-winner today rides for the kazach Team Astana, which is also a subject of Rasmus Damsgaard’s and Bo Belhages doping program. But Lance Armstrong has his own anti-doping program along with the American doctor Don Catlin and would not (readily, willingly, without further ado)allow himself to be examined by a doctor from Bispebjerg Hospital. That was totally unacceptable to Bo Belhage.
"If we are to participate, and he is to ride for Astana, which we have a contract with, then he must also be checked on our conditions. It can’t be that he is checked on his own conditions. That would be nonsense "said Bo Belhage last autumn to Ritzaus Bureau.
"We must not only see his values - we must also take samples. It should be us who are knocking on his door two o'clock at night and say, 'Lance, now you piss in the pot.' That's it. "
IT WAS EPISODES like these, Bo Belhage went to Lyngby to discuss with Rasmus Damsgaard. But the incidents were, according to Berlingske Tidende overshadowed by details of a conflict of a completely different and more sinister nature.
At Rasmus Damsgaard’s home Bo Belhage spotted a bicycle similar to those CSC riders ride in competition. Such a hand built racebike costs 40-50.000 crowns. Berlingske Tidende can today reveal that the otherwise independent doping researcher Rasmus Damsgaard received the bike as a “gift” from Bjarne Riis. Bo Belhage will not comment on the newspaper's information. Anything to do with Rasmus Damsgaard’s racebike, is met with the same answer:
"I have no comments."
Bo Belhage confirms however that he a few days later - a month ago - withdrew Bispebjerg Hospital from the world's most prestigious anti-doping project. The official reason was that there was a natural contract expiration on 31 December 2008. But Bo Belhage would not renew the contract.
"I do not like to be involved in projects where there is not a full and perfectly streamlined clarity about who does what, when and why. I would not be involved if there was one-Astana rider, who had a free-ride. In that way it would all be muddy and unclear, where it would be discussed who had tested whom, and who were in our program and not. And we could vouch for that Astana riders were in order -except for Lance Armstrong that is”,says Bo Belhage to Berlingske Tidende.
If you are to understand Bo Belhages dilemma fully, it is necessary to go two and a half years back in time to the autumn of 2006. At that time, Rasmus Damsgaard was the Secretary of Anti-Doping Denmark and the epitome of a fierce dog, who ruthlessly criticized doping offenders and professional sports organizations, which were powerless in the face of doping proliferation. Damsgaard was one of the leading doping hunters in the world and the media darling because he never compromised with his own convictions.
So it came as a shock when Rasmus Damsgaard received an unexpected invitation from Bjarne Riis. Denmark's only Tour de France winner invited his worst critic to make an iron-clad anti-doping program for his cyclingteam Team CSC. Bjarne Riis was distraught over extent of doping in cycling, and he declared to the world that he now wanted a clean cycling – whatever the cost. Riis would place ethic higher than the results.
The doping hunter was flattered and accepted the task after lengthy deliberations, although he could see all the ethical problems that could arise in the aftermath of such an agreement. Therefore it was a key point in the agreement between Bispebjerg Hospital, CSC and Rasmus Damsgaard that there should never be paid money, gifts or other benefits directly between the researcher and the cycling team.
Bo Belhage says today that the agreement between Team CSC and Rasmus Damsgaard only could be acceptable if there were absolutely watertight bulkheads between the researcher and the cycling team, the so-called arm's length principle.
"It was a demand from the Region Hovedstaden’s board(the regional government that runs Bispebjerg, translators explanation) that there would be an economic separation. If one is to be objective, one should not have any financial interest in the project, "says chief of medicine Belhage.
The cooperation between Rasmus Damsgaard and Bjarne Riis' Team CSC has since evolved into an unmitigated success – both for Riis and Damsgaard. Despite past sins, Team CSC now has a reputation as the cleanest in the cycling world. Add to that the CSC rider Carlos Sastre won this summer's Tour de France ahead of a string of competitors that have since tested positive for use of doping.
Rasmus Damsgaard has established his name in the international sporting world as a researcher who can create great results without the use of doping. A collaboration with Dane can give access to the biggest races in the world and the main sponsors, where you can get millions of dollars. For that reason the kazach cyclingteam, Astana, entered an agreement with Bispebjerg Hospital on the same terms as the CSC Saxo Bank. Team riders were tired of the doping rumors that stuck to them. Rumors that, among other things, meant that the team was excluded from last year's Tour de France, although the reigning champion, Alberto Contador, rode for Astana.
But Bispebjerg Hospital and Bo Belhage simply don’t want to participate anymore. They no longer have full faith in the project. Although Bo Belhage will not say so outright, the reasons lie with Frank Schleck, Lance Armstrong and Rasmus Damsgaard himself.
Does Rasmus Damsgaard continue working with CSC and Astana, although Bispebjerg Hospital have pulled out of projects?
”Possibly. I do not know. If you can get in touch with Rasmus, and he can sometimes be almost impossible to get in touch with, then he might know, " says Bo Belhage.
But Rasmus Damsgaard wasn’t allowed to be connected economically with CSC, because it would jeopardize the project's legitimacy?
"That is perfectly correct."
It was specifically Bispebjerg Hospital, which entered into an agreement with CSC, and then it was up to the hospital to pay Rasmus Damsgaard, so there was no economic threads between him and the cycling team?
"That is perfectly correct."
So you can probably also reject that Rasmus Damsgaard is still involved since the Bispebjerg Hospital is out?
”No, that I can not refuse because Rasmus is an independent person. I don’t have Rasmus in my department at the moment. So what Rasmus does, I have no control over at the moment. "
So he is not on your payroll ?
"No. If Rasmus has some deal with CSC Saxo Bank and Astana, it is on some other conditions than those I know about. "
The truth about Rasmus Damsgaard projects are somewhat more curious than even his closest friends and colleagues know about. Berlingske Tidende has followed the cash flows between Rasmus Damsgaard and the cyclingteams, he is associated with.
One and a half months ago, 1 December, Rasmus Damsgaard created the company Radar, which he owns one hundred percent. At the same time, Damsgaard dropped the arm's length principle, so that he is currently employed directly by the professional cycling teams CSC Saxo Bank, Astana, and two more.
A senior source in the doping environment is appalled by what he hears:
'Why are there no journalists who ask Rasmus Damsgaard:' Do you do it, because you're cyclingsport’s Messiah. Or do it because you in reality have found a goldmine, that you continue to chop gold out of. 'I am inclined to believe that he has gone into it with the first attitude, but eventually discovered that this is a good way to secure his old age in. "
The question is routed directly to Rasmus Damsgaard.
"It's just wonderful that people have a lot of opinions about things. I have never concealed that it is not philanthropy, I’m in this for. No, I have accumulated a lot of knowledge. And yes, I make money at it. I do. I must admit that. On the other hand I also think that we have come very far in this area, "says Rasmus Damsgaard.
ARTICLE WITH RESPONSE FROM DAMSGAARD
Directly confronted one of the world's leading doping hunters, Rasmus Damsgaard, admits he received an expensive bike as a gift from Bjarne Riis.
By Jesper Dahl Caruso
Last updated Saturday, 24 January 2009, 20:37
The rumor has been around for a while. It is unpleasant, because it can undermine a person's credibility. Therefore, the question should be asked asked. Openly.
Allegedly, there should be a hand-built racebike in the home of the world's leading doping hunter Rasmus Damsgaard. Such a bike costs according to experts 40-50.000 crowns retail as it is similar to those used by elite cyclists during the Tour de France.
There is a rumor that says you have received donations from Astana - including a racebike - is it true?
"No," says Rasmus Damsgaard.
Nor from CSC Saxo Bank?
(five-second pause)
'Yes. I have recieved a bike from the CSC. That is true. "
Is that not an ethical problem?
"I don’t know if I would say it is. I assume that it was because they got a new bike sponsor and were getting rid of them. But ... I don’t know. It was not something I had expected or asked for. But at the end of the year there was a bicycle. Yes, it was there. I must admit it. There was. "
You don’t think it is a problem?
'Actually I do not have time to ride on it. But no. We must always weigh it against what I am doing for CSC Saxo Bank and Astana. I make a program. "
I can see that, but it is a discussion we also have as journalists?
'Yes. But I could just have asked for 20,000 more in bonuses or something. Or I could have pulled 20,000 more from the project. There is no connection or anything. So personally, I do not think there is any problem in it. Yes ... Yes, but I have. It is certainly true. But it does not change my job. "
Since you started working with CSC, you stressed the importance of you being financially independent of cycling teams?
"Yes, but not more independent - and I believe that I emphasized at the time - than that it is not philanthropy from my side. The teams paid into an account at Bispebjerg Hospital, where I demanded some money for the hours I put in it. It is the same I am doing today. I get the same amount of it today as I was when I was at Bispebjerg. Today I just have a small company, that administrates it. "
But it is not critizisable that there is no longer the arm's length between you and cycling teams, which was there when you started?
'No. The official anti-doping authority for all the tests I take, that’s the UCI. Thus it follows the customer's requirements. I only get the results after the UCI has received them. Then I put them into a database. And I can not tamper with them. "
What you earn from your work for CSC?
"I do not know whether I should inform of that. Whether it is good practice. But I earn exactly the same as when I worked at Bispebjerg.
And what do you earn from Astana?
"They pay the same. But I do not charge double. "
Does this mean that if you check the CSC and Astana and other teams, then you will not be payed more than once?
"Yes, that is I don't pay it out to myself – to my personal account. It goes into my company, which has some costs. You can see that when the year is over. "
What's the name of your company?
'Radar. "
It is your company 100 percent.
"Yes."
I have heard that you earn the same as a chief of medicine per team. Is that taken out of the blue?
"When I went into the CSC work, I asked to be paid as a chief of medicine on Bornholm (Danish island, translators comment), who should be on call 24 hours a day. It was around 980,000 DKR or something. But it is true that it could be that there will be a profit in the company after I have been paid. "
Should you not require Frank Schleck fired from the CSC team, if you continue to work with them?
"What Frank Schleck has done a half year before I started my work with CSC, I don’t care about. I also don’t care about if Bjarne Riis has doped. And I don’t care about whether Lance Armstrong has positive EPO tests available in some freezer in France. What people have done in the past, I don’t care about. What it is about is that in this program, we have a pretty strong sense that it can detect whether people are cheating or not. "
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To quote Glenn Frey in Smuggler's Blues...
Every name’s an alias in case somebody squeals
It’s the lure of easy money, it’s got a very strong appeal
Perhaps you’d understand it better standing in my shoes
It’s the ultimate enticement, it’s the smugglers’ blues
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
by DemonCats on Jan 25, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oy
Do I have to dig up my 2006 manifesto again? Something about independent scientific programs in there, I think. Or at least “Don’t do drugs!!!! ZOMG!” wristbands.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris... on Jan 25, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Catlin also being paid directly by the Columbia & Gamin teams
for the UCI-independent testing?
tx Jens
by lyne on Jan 25, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes he is and so was ACE
The questionmark over teamfunded testing applies to all of them. I think the issue that makes this sort of flammable is the history behind it. CSC were to some extent saved from closure after Puerto/Basso thanks to the credibility of the Bispebjerg/Damsgaard program.
They made such a big point of the trustwortyness of it based on three pillars. Damsgaards reputation as a staunch critic of CSC (more known in Denmark than internationally), the inclusion of a reputable public hospital careful not to sully their name by rubberstamping a corrupt program and the fact that collected data went to UCI/WADA first then to Damsgaard and finally to CSC.
I have to admit I didn’t think much about it when they announced Bispebjerg were no longer involved. Cold winds are blowing and apart from the general bad name cycling has these days I imagine a public-hospital administrator is hard pressed to explain why resources are spent on cyclingteams (even if the program was funded by CSC/Astana) in the current economic climate. The picture looks a bit more bleak now though when they openly question the credibility of one of their former employees/colleagues.
I must say I personally still trust in Damsgaards drive to find new ways to catch dopers but the program’s air of being impossible to corrupt has taken a beating.
by Jens on Jan 25, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the translation!
the program’s air of being impossible to corrupt has taken a beating.
I have to agree with this. Also, I guess my trust in the ability of the UCI to handle the results without corruption is not so high at the moment.
by gavia on Jan 25, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the bike
I dunno, that strikes me as not terribly important. A bike is an easy gift on Riis’ part, and in the scheme of things, not of significant value. That said, his “I don’t even have time to ride it” gives me the feeling that he’s seriously disconnected from the importance of appearance, here.
I don’t really believe the guy could/would be bought off with a bike, but when you add that on top of the removal of Bispebjerg from the situation, it really does begin to reduce confidence.
by Sui Juris on Jan 25, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe each team should pay...
…for testing some other team’s riders [grin].
by JFS_PGH on Feb 1, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Jens, for the translation!
This is very interesting stuff. You’re right, Jens, it definitely brings home the importance of a comprehensive UCI testing program independent of the teams.
I’ve wondered why, in all the articles about Armstrong and his personal testing program, I’ve never seen any mention of him participating in Astana’s program with Damsgaard. If individual teams having testing programs for they pay the testers is troubling, an individual rider opting out of his team’s program to pay his own personal tester is even more troubling, imo.
by Tifosa on Jan 25, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing the answer to the LA question lies in this quote:
"I don’t care about whether Lance Armstrong has positive EPO tests available in some freezer in France. What people have done in the past, I don’t care about. What it is about is that in this program, we have a pretty strong sense that it can detect whether people are cheating or not. "
I would assume from that that he is included but I don’t really know for sure.
by Jens on Jan 25, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
worries me too...
…but I can also see that he’s simply unwilling to piss in a pot at 2 AM, and he’s willing to pull “elder statesman of cycling” strings for the sake of his beauty sleep (or whatever he’s getting at 2 AM [wink]).
Ignorance of perceptions of impropriety… a lot of that going around these days…
by JFS_PGH on Feb 1, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for that
A bit worrying, especially if he just can’t see anything wrong with getting a free bike for christmas. I thought that he would refuse even a biro on principle. I’m puzzled and not entirely comfortable, even if I still believe that he is on the right side.
And I’ll add here a couple of doping stories that have popped up in the past couple of weeks which gave given me an umm, if no more:
1. Jonathon Page was cleared by USADA on account of his serious head injury counting for exceptional circumstances. Fair enough but I wish there was some way for them to say “This is not a precedent. Anyone who wants to pull this one in future had better be a lot more seriously hurt.”
2. Santuccione’s latest trial started in Rome. Oddly only the German press are reporting this now, not even Cappadoccia has a peep. Italian courts are slow at most times, but this could just mean that it was a review of an application for a pretrial consideration of ….
3. Italian trackie Annalisa Cucinotta tested positive late December. But the substance she tested for was Boldenone, a horse steroid which is traceable for 12-18 months after use. That’s hardly keeping one step ahead of the testers, and the sort of dumb mistake that our friends over at cuttingedge would be very very quick to point out. Even more oddly the UCI has intervened, asking that the test of the B sample not be carried out. No-one has explained any more, but something strange is going on.
by Monty. on Jan 25, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Santuccione
I have been scouring the webby looking for any deets on that Santu, and there is nothing outside the brief article in the German press. That is very odd. Why is Capodacqua not covering that story? Is it that there is no story yet, ie, that nothing has happened yet in the proceedings? Color me confused.
Also, what you said on the Cucinotta case. Very strange doings afoot with that.
by gavia on Jan 25, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cappadoccia?
where the hell did I get that from. Dreaming of the summer I guess.
by Monty. on Jan 25, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, I'm lazy and tired
and just got back from out team training camp (part of which, last night, involved drinking the tour of flanders—i.e. one (well, all 3 from Chimay) of all of the abbey ales (except West Vleteren).
So, perhaps I’m not reading with the full attention necessary, but is it possible that there’s just a bit of hyper-ventilating going on in this article?
by R Mc on Jan 25, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Danish press
I really dont know what to think about this whole story, but one thing you all need to know is that the Danish press in generally hate Bjarne Riis, and would like nothing more than to see his team folding. I think that Mogens Jakobsen from Politiken is the only real cycle journalist, the rest only want to write storys in chocking headlines about doping, best if it is Danish, and if that is not possible, then adoring storys about foreign riders, like LA, Contador, Valverde etc. This last week LA has been in the headlines every day from Tour Down Under, no matter who else won the stage or the race, and that Saxo rode a very good race and got Stuart in second place has got maybe two lines beneath all the LA stuff.
It may be difficult for others to understand why the media in Denmark are not proud that it is a Danish team that are the best or one of the best teams in the world. The American ambassador who left Denmark a few days ago, was asked what advise he would give the Danish people, and he said that we should brag more about our accomplishments, but I do not think that we can do that, we do not like people who stand out, we have a saying “Du skal ikke tro du er noget” that translate loosly like: “Do not ever think that you are something special”. When somebody to something good we say Ok that was good, but….. I think that most of you are Americans so this may sound very strange to you, but it is very Danish.
And then of course in the good old days when Riis won the TdF all the media lost their collective heads and praised him to heaven, and when they woke up after that party with an enormous headache they immediately startet digging dirt up, and that is what they have been doing ever since. If they can not find any dirt, then some rumours are always good, or if that is not around and his team are doing something good like winning af race, then they can try to make the good story as little as possible, and of course always try, if possible, to squeeze in a line or two about doping, then they feel better.
Sorry for this long rant, but it always make me so sad when I read these storys.
What to think about the story, I would have been more happy if it still was like in the beginning with Saxo the only team in the program, and Bispebjerg and Damsgård together, then it would have been something special (and I like special), now the program are just like the rest of the teams like Garmin and Highroad. Dams make the program, decide when the samples should be collected and the samples are analysed at an accredited lab, the results send to UCI and WADA, then to Dams and last to the team. So what have changed. The change is that Dams now have his own company and the teams pay to that company instead of paying to Bispebjerg, just like Garmin and Highroad pays to Catlins company. I think that Dams saw that this was the way things were going, and Bispebjerg probably is not in a position to handle several teams, so if other teams wanted the service they would have to go someplace else, like a private company, and Dams probably said to himself well why should other people make money on this and why not me, so that is what he has done and now have four teams that he services. If Catlin can do it without loosing respect then Dams can do it too. I am a little sad that the team is not special anymore, but I have not lost faith in the program or in the team.
Now it is very late in Denmark and I am off to bed :-)
by LittleOldLady on Jan 25, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the perspective.
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Jan 25, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a most excellent rant
I hope you stick around.
by Sui Juris on Jan 25, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks :-)
interesting explanation, for sure!
by gavia on Jan 25, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with a lot of what you say
The danish media has had a very strange relationship with CSC right from the start. As a CSC fan it has made me crazy at times. But a few points should be mentioned.
While some of the zealots, like Skaaning, have made themselves very unpopular with cyclingfans, they have to a large extent been accurate in their critisizm. The extent of the doping that they talked of and we all scoffed at has basically been confirmed.
Stories like this one were bound to appear sooner or later. Presumably a lot of journos have been waiting for Damsgaard to slip up, however slightly. Since he has been so vocal and judgemental (and rightly so) about the conduct of others, that was going to come back and bite him in the ass at some point. That is what the law of Jante teaches us, if nothing else.
I hope he stays a vocal and fierce critic because we need competent researchers with a drive to get things done if things are going to keep improving.
by Jens on Jan 26, 2009 3:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe their is but..
Bjarne Riis, former doper, couldn’t resist himself agains dope.. Can he now fairly say to other rider: don’t do that.. He know how though cycling is and it’s hard to resisit. With the little present he gaven Damsgard…. It’s on the edge..
(sorry it’s maybe not a real reply to your story)
Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.
by Frinking on Jan 26, 2009 5:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
for the responses, after the rant I read Flatbaggers report from Tour Down Under and was able to go to bed and sleep peacefully :-)
I am lurking here every day, but do not post very often, partly because it is difficult for me to write in English (have to use a text program with spell checker to avoid the worst errors), and partly because I am not so good at talking with people. I truly enjoy the Cafe and the multitude of people and opinions, the giggles and the hottitudes and all the rest. Almost every time I have an opinion on a subject someone will express it much better than I could, so keep up the good work all you PdC-people.
I agree with you Jens that some of the zealots have been accurate in their criticism, and I appreciate very much good and well researched articles about doping. The problem is that we do not get that kind of articles anymore, we only get chocking headlines and bulls.. this story in Berlingske could have been written very different, with info about all the anti-dopingprograms, comparing them and discussing the whole system with these programs and why they are necessary and so on. But because the only agenda for the Danish journos is to put Riis down we do not get good articles.
And then there are the double standards, “Denmark’s most winning cyclist” Rolf Sørensen was years ago exposed as a doper by Skaaning but your never hear a bad word about him, and therefore we have to listen to him in the TV at all the big races and believe me that is not good, he constantly talk about how good he was when he was riding, how wonderful LA is, and worst of all how dangerous the road is just now and that somebody will crash in just a moment, I often have to turn the sound off to not get a heart-attack in fear that Fränk will Schleck himself.
The good news for the Danish people is that at this years TdF we will have Jørgen Leth back as part-time commentator in TV2 it will be so good to hear his voice again.
by LittleOldLady on Jan 26, 2009 6:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL! I've never been able to figure out the Sörensen thing
Riis probably couldn’t even claim to be bald without being called a liar by half the journalists in Denmark but Rolf gets to sit on TV, day in and day out , claiming he was clean as a whistle without anyone so much as questioning him. Pretty funny really.
I actually think he would be a really good commentator though, if they amputated half his ego.
by Jens on Jan 26, 2009 7:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
*chuckles*
I have nothing to add, except that this post made me laugh :-)
by gavia on Jan 26, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is he the one who sounds like he's going to wet himself every time the road narrows or goes downhill?
in the free online feeds we had for a while last year, out of DK? So funny to hear more about him! Thank you!
by JFS_PGH on Feb 1, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thank you for sharing, and please continue to and don't let spelling errors stop you
it doesn’t stop us.
oh and nice use of the Schleck verb
by lyne on Jan 26, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damsgaard said when he started this project
that he was not a cop. He was doing this to allow the riders the chance to build a clean reputation. The head of ACE and Don Catlin have said the same thing. These independent antidoping programs are set up very conservatively, to give the riders the benefit of the doubt. No matter how the pay structure has been set up these programs have always seemed to offer many chances for monkey business on the riders’ parts.
Personally I think Jens Voigt’s performance at the Giro last year and some of what CSC did at the Tour, especially Cancellara pulling uphill, were very suspicious. To my mind Damsgaard’s impartiality was suspect long before Radar was set up, this just adds to the questions.
I wouldn’t expect the UCI solve any problems either given all the accusations of preferential treatment in their past.
by mysterion on Jan 26, 2009 7:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What about Arversen in the Tour.....
Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.
by Frinking on Jan 26, 2009 7:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He did an unbelievable job
Hanging on, or leading the bunch, where Cunego got out.. He defintely improved the last years.. From sprinter to master helper
Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.
by Frinking on Jan 26, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lance Armstrong
The official story is that yes, he is part of the Astana internal controls program. Bonnie Ford’s profile last week even mentioned that he’s had blood drawn at team camps. Whether they actually follow through is unknown, but officially he’s in.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris... on Jan 26, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmm
With that last round of tests that came out (the ones that caught Kohl?) where there were rumours of 12 ort so riders etc etc. None of the positives were people done by Damsgaard despite many rumours. I’m also certain that people like Cancelarra, Schleck and tbh, most of csc will have had the benefit of the full range of tests on account of their patron, their performances and their eccentric banking transactions. I guess it’s positive for Damsgaard that none of them were then . . .er positive?
That said, accepting gifts and salary from those you are meant to test is well dodgy. I agree with Monty that, on principle not even a Biro as a gift is the right way to do things. I hope this kind of news spurrs on a more integrity bound approach.
We’ll know that relationships have broken down when next years gift under the tree is 15cm long, cylindrical, has the saxobank logo on it and writes in one colour only.
by ebbsandflows on Jan 28, 2009 3:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've always found it hard to write
with syringes.
by Sui Juris on Jan 28, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nygaard says
the bike was given to Damsgaard in compensation for some additional work he did for them:
“He did some extra work that was not part of the programme. He checked out some potential riders and went through their blood values. We actually ended up not signing some riders based on his work.”—CN
Nice defense of Damsgaard, but now everyone’s going to be wondering who the unsigned riders are…
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Jan 28, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The more I think of it, the more I think the greatest sin...
…is that bike sitting, unused.
I’m sure some of us could take it off his hands, pass it around, remove the taint of impropriety from it! Heck, there seems to be some demand, we should start an “impropriety removal” business. After all, someone must profit. ; )
by JFS_PGH on Feb 1, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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