Paris - Tours...............LIVE
by Jens on Oct 11, 2009 2:58 AM EDT
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Time for the sprinters last waltz of the season. Don't be fooled though, the recent editions have been anything
but long parades too an inevitable bunch-gallop. The thing is, as much as this is the Sprinter's Classic, it is also the Breakaway-artist's Classic.
For pointers on how to do it the hard way watch Erik Dekker's amazing win in 2004.
This is the last year we will see the classic finish on the Avenue de Grammont. Due to the laying of tram-tracks they will not use the never-ending avenue in the future.
Startlist, Official site ( with ticker)
Livevideo: Should be available from 15:25 CEST (9:25 US eastern, 00:25 AEST)
CTV carries the race live and free in the US, other links from Steephill and Cyclingfans
*UPDATE FROM CHRIS: Go Tyler! *
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You and I are pretty close in the standings
I’m 27 places/614p behind after Worlds. I might overtake you but you should be OK with Cunego holding the fort.
His problem is I picked him.
I expected little from the Giro, but much more in the Ardennes.
by Peter Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
VDS points... imagine our surprise ;-)
I need to get myself invited to dinner with the South American guys downstairs. When they haul out the barbie… oh man, the aroma that wafts up… it always makes whatever I’m having for dinner seem very unappealing :-( . Gonna have to try to start conversing beyond the occasional ‘hello’…
Who said it was?
But barbie sounds good…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I think that I have A Plan...
… next weekend, I shall wait until the beer has been flowing for a while and then saunter past their barbie and comment on how good it smells ;-).
Oooh… this would also be an excellent opportunity to fast-track my Spanish!
Hope they're not Brazilian;)
But excellent plan. Have a nice bit of something … beer will do… to add to their fare. Failsafe!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Doubt it
Brazilians generally speak Portuguese ;-). My Chilean mate tells me that they can’t be Chilean, from my description of the delicious aromas…
That was my point
that they might speak Brazilian. Mind you, I spent weeks with Brazilians who had political asylum in Vienna. Lovely… (sigh)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Portugese...oops
You get my drift though?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
And yes...
… I have already decided that my offering will have to be beer. I’m no cook… and certainly not on a par with them, by the smell of things!
Must check the recycling bin tomorrow to see what the favoured beverage is…
Good call..
there’s always ciabatta or such. Perhaps I could start a cooking thread? (Joke! although I’m pretty good at it :))
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It's not a 'fault' at all ;-)
’tis a choice, and one that I am quite content with thankyouverymuch!
Sometimes it's not about love or hate rbjhan ;)
So One HD came through for cycling?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oh, I wouldn't say that.
It can be rather amusing at times, as an observer ;-).
LOL!
I wouldn’t mind playing either, but I have almost no competitive streak, so my desire to win is completely undermined by the, He’s so nice’, ‘What a legend’ etc. No chance of me ever winning anything ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Competitive?
For me, it is in part down to a lack of the ‘gambling’ streak. (Like, I don’t even bet on the Melbourne Cup!).
I have a competitive streak, but this is stuff that is beyond one’s own control… it’s the gambling streak that is required, I think ;-)
Skeletons in the closet..
Lots of gamblers in my family, although fortunately not the nuclear part. I always have a throw away bet for MC. Win as often as most. It’s always in the lap of the gods.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'm not sure how this works but
should the Farrar v. Greipel still be writ large, and one of the many Emilia threads pushed to the side? (Just for tonight…) Doesn’t need an answer, just an observation. The sprinters won’t be yesterday’s news for another day.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Exactly... that's why it's here.
And I didn’t privately email because it’s Sunday and maybe he has better things to do. It was just a thought.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I don't think Chris mucks around with the timeline too much
He mostly does it for deadline reminders for competitions and stuff.
No worries.
As I said, just a passing thought. It’s a shame there’s no last minute voting though. Anyway, not an issue.
That said, today’s race is current. Emilia’s VDS competition are done and dusted.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
This is actually the one thing I can think of
that has gotten worse in the PdC 2.0 . In the old SB Nation format there was a space for polls in the right sidebar.
Never mind. If
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
...I can find it anyone can :(
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
well that's all clear now ...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
OMG!
I just turned on the Sun Tour hilights… it’d Matt and MACCA! Holy shit… what a fantastic combo! I was RIGHT!
clearly you missed the earlier part
when they said Phil will be there later….sorry to bust the bubble….
We're with you! M and M hmmm :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Didn't I tell ya?!
Oh yes, I want Matt and Macca for the Tour. For sure. And for P-R. OK, let’s just have ’em doing all commentary… they truly are a critical mass of cycling Clue :-)
I don't disagree... but there's a third Australian voice. Who is it?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Is there a third man here????
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Sound like Turtur
You can keep him :-(.
He’s the one who was sidekick to Phil for Beijing… and during the TT made the comment:“Who’s this Larsson guy? He’s jumpin’ out of ’is skin today…” (Phil: “Well, he’s the Swedish TT champion…”)
Thanks. At least I'm not imagining it
And Turtur makes sense. Three actually doesn’t hurt in some ways. Time for everyone to catch their breath.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Macca.. 'Ker/see/poo'
His pronunciation is entertaining ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
that is far too subtle for Macca...but he was OK ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Not looking good Bruce.
I couldn’t even open the official site for the race at Cyclingfans. I had hoped there might be ticker info there.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'd assist, with my omniscience...
… but I’m going to bed soon, sorry..
Stuey was scratched. I'm working out who I want to win
…which is usually different to who eventually takes it.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Quick glance at the startlist...
… Arvesen, Chava, Oscarito, Pippo, Danilo. That’s my short list ;-)
Oscarito is probably at the top of my wish list
But after his ride at the worlds, I’m hoping also for the further redemption of Boonen.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
No thank you.
His role will be to block for Chava.
(Failing that, his role will be to not cross the line first…)
French ES ticker live here
http://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/paris-tours/2009/paris-tours_mtc358342/live.shtml
Break has 4min gap, 170km to go. Break:
Martin Elmiger et Cédric Pineau (AG2R-La Mondiale), Matthieu Ladagnous (Française des Jeux), Damien Gaudin (Bbox Bouygues Telecom), Jean-Luc Delpech (Bretagne-Schuller), Jonathan Thiré (Auber 93), Matthew Haymann (Rabobank), Aart Vierhouten (Vacansoleil), Tom Veleers (Skil Shimano) et Lazlo Bodrogi (Katusha).
Free CTV coverage.
When does it start?
by Peter Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 7:25 AM EDT reply actions
Would that be free in North America?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Eurosport for you, mate ;-)
Me… I’m off to continue reading about the 1967 Mt McKinley/Denali balls-up, before the eyelids close…
According to CTV it is.
So 9:25 EST (if my conversion is correct0.
by Peter Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course I deal with Central Europe all the time at work, so
it would be pretty sad if I didn’t know…
by Peter Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I can do CET - EST, but not *your* EST
That’s asking too much!
I discovered I have the program built into my Mac ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Even my computer has a battery!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
My internet connection has a back up
battery in-case of power outages. Of course my wifi router needs electricity, so it doesn’t help much….
by Peter Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I *am* pleased!
I just wish more people would organise alternative power supplies for things that suddenly become vitally necessary to them when the power goes out. Starting with tropical bloody fishtanks…
Oooh, nasty..
I have power again by the way ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'd like to say that I care
…. but you’re in Country Energy’s network area – so, sadly…
(on a personal level, of course, I am pleased!)
I had no idea
and i like Country Energy ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Well that would be the plan
You’re the youngest ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I know, but the early crew
who also don’t need a passport for the Worlds next year. That’s you ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
You're the one...
… with a bizarre confidence in the network ;-).
Heh… “I’m not in a blackout zone”… I seem to recall. You’re on the grid? = you’re in a blackout zone!
Unless you're off the grid rbjhan, it can happen..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
but are you going to stop use something
because there is a chance it might not work under some extreme conditions?
gosh, is there anything that’s 100% certain??
No, you're right
but I hate that more things rely on electricity all the time…because I have lived through bad blackouts.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
What...
… make use of what you actually need, and don’t just use it for it’s own sake?
Isn't it about what we want rather than need?
Isn’t there more than one tier?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
if you are going down that way
other than food and basic accommodation, what else do one really need?
I'd want warmth, music and books
And my dishwasher ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I could do without the dishwasher
at a pinch …
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'm glad I don't have liquid in my mouth right now
My keyboard would be toast…if I had a toaster :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I waited weeks to tell her
It was only when I realised what Firefox had that I thought to look for a Mac version on mine ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Mr van p was just making conversation
We know that you look after us. How do you think Lou worked it out so fast…because she didn’t have to ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oi!
I read it… never mind the ‘you all’ bit! And I duly noted that you have taken our daylight savings on board. I am both touched and impressed.
And I hate the new daylight savings time
All it means is an extra 6 weeks of going to work in the dark.
I always get pissed when my cycling club can start their weeknight rides earlier (while I’m still at work).
by Peter Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I love it,
but when i lived in western NSW and it was still light and about 32 degrees C at 9pm, I was not a fan..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
10 man group
7’ gap to peleton
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
GP Beghelli
liveticker:
13:20 Ritiro del vincitore del Giro dell'Emilia, Robert Gesink
He tweeted: still a bit troubled by yesterday’s cramps, didn’t want to force it with Lombardia to come.
Superprestige Ruddervoorde (cyclocross)
Free, unrestricted live webcast from 16:45 CEST (in about 2h 25min)
http://www.vt4.be/superprestige
More on the race: http://www.cyclocrossruddervoorde.be/
Hi Ruthann... not much action yet ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
In all fairness to little Tommy
he’s had a big year.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Morning all. For those craving live action, Chicago marathon is streaming on Universal
30 minutes into the race and they are ahead of world record time. I thought about heading out to see it, but simply too cold for casual spectating this morning.
Better the cold than the heat they had in 2007
the one year my husband decided to run it. My kid and I waited and waited in the park near the finish line, listening to the constant wail of ambulance sirens and every once in a while checking the list of people who’d been taken to the hospital.
Very different to watch it today and see the runners in hats and arm warmers!
yeah, after two warm years, they finally got some good weather for running.
They showed a shot of the mass start, and all you saw were articles of clothing flying in the air to the left and right as people we re abandoning them before running. Pretty funny looking.
Hi RU
I needed him to give me some insurance on my Poulidor status in the Ed Liga VDS.
"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH
I had a drunken funeral for my Ed's League VDS.
A couple of months ago. But the hangover lingers…..
I’m doing OK on the big VDS, though; I think I’m holding pretty well around 53rd place. :-)
Good Morning! Ha ! I timed it perfectly !!
I thought I had slept in, no alarm, I stumble to the computer, amd Live starts right now, I Love Podium Cafe
I heart you guys (OK OK I know you will tell me to get back to bed and stop with all this affection stuff) :)
GP Beghelli
1. Ventoso (Carmiooro A-Style)
2. Visconti (ISD)
Ventoso has been on a tear of late...I think he has won 4-5 races in the last month
by Vlaanderen90 on Oct 11, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
If Ventoso won, then it would have to be flat
by Vlaanderen90 on Oct 11, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
http://www.instantrimshot.com/
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
thanks Cycling TV
hey, my video quality seems pretty low,
any suggestions are there settings on cycling TV for a higher quality picture?
Astana not invited today
Paris-Tours = ASO. Astana big opponent of radio ban during the Tour (=ASO).
Anyone else having trouble loading CTV?
I’m not even able to load the front page. Anyone have a direct link (are we allowed to do that?)
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
That would surprise me much less than it should.
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
I'm stuned
Ctv came up and worked immediately. Has this ever happened before?
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
5 cotes coming up
Cote de Crochu at 26 km to go
Joue les Tours at 16 km to go
Cote de l Epan, 500m at 8%, at 8 km to go
Cote du Pont Volant, 400m at 7%, at 5 km to go
Cote du Petit Pas d Ane, 500m at 7%, at 4 km to go
profile of last 10 km here
Here's the thing
Now I’m actually thinking of getting the cross package
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
this
is a strange way to start the day
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I
don’t like you
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind
Elisa just came by – she’s the best.
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
I havent been to the site in months so this is entirely possible
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
from cyclingnews ticker:
Germany’s André Greipel (Columbia-HTC) has abandoned. He was in a crash not so long ago
from cyclingnews ticker:
It is only three times that the race has finished in a bunch sprint in the last 10 years
but I thought he was a time-trialist?
I’m hoping QS officially pass the sprinting baton on to Allan Davis today.
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
For all of the hoopla that Davis got, he didn't win any stages in the Giro
and he has come very close all season, since Down Under and he hasn’t won anything…which is bad for a sprinter.
There is no difference who sprints, Boonen or Davis, if they are going to get second or third
by Vlaanderen90 on Oct 11, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Davis isn't on the start list?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
he's
the Sprinters’ Lance.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just curious if he;d gone the way of Greipel
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
No Anthony or Brian?
Damn…. half the reason I bothered with C.TV
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions
Anthony and Frinking?
I’d pay to hear that.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
And you think we won't get written accounts
and pics? Can’t wait.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Go Rock Racing!
This is a good race for them.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions
What race are you watching?...
They not be here
by Vlaanderen90 on Oct 11, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That ended yesterday..they won with Sevilla
by Vlaanderen90 on Oct 11, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Champs is more prestigious, of course, because it's the Tour
But the Avenue de Grammont is 2600 m long. Endless.
yep I always forget how much of a corner there is
at the fountain with 500m to go on the Champs.
It looks deceptively non-turny from the camera shots, but it really separates the bunch doesn’t it!
hey, my CTV video quality seems pretty low,
any suggestions are there settings on cycling TV for a higher quality picture?
If piti has to be there
so does his lieutenant.
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
4 cotes left
Joue les Tours at 16 km to go
Cote de l Epan, 500m at 8%, at 8 km to go
Cote du Pont Volant, 400m at 7%, at 5 km to go
Cote du Petit Pas d Ane, 500m at 7%, at 4 km to go
profile of last 10 km here
(scroll down and click on LAST KM link)
Wow, CTV dude *really* needs to know about Griepel
…he just predicted him for the win..
Farrar
Am beginning to think “Wenatchee Wonder” isn’t good enough. Kind of 1950s. Better ideas?
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
it must be your systems configurations
tsk tsk
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
Sorry bout that bit of picture breakup
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting painful now
Martin, GREIPEL DROPPED OUT! Jeebus.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
I'm calling at least 5
“there is Greiple…no…
oh, there is Greipel coming up the …no…
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
Won't you all feel foolish when
Griepel beats Cav today
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
If Lance can win
why can’t Greipel?
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
SECOND LIBVE THREAD
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris Fontecchio on Oct 11, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
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