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Hopefully once the people who could see the fashion post!!!!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Glaciers?

I wasn’t watching the presentation – and this is the important question…

by Lou... on Oct 14, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

appaently schleck, bert and LA on stage.. want a pic..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no you don't

they didn’t look good and Andy looked awkward and a bit lost. And the outfit…

by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has it finished now?

My picture is stuck on that image of the Tourmalet with its hand on its hip

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 6:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess we'll have to rely on photos for the fashion analysis then

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fashion tip form a Pro
@stevendejongh Ohhh glad you said that, heard the same.. But still haven’t seen a pic..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oops wrong one...
Time for lunch at 13:00, Andy looked a bit underdressed.

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

underdressed is cool

rebel without a cause

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh please tell me he didn't!!!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats it... I'm going to speak to that man!!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey.. some people can't help that.. May be a problem!!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ewww

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahaha

And.. I think I’m glad I don’t see the Tour.

by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

interesting that both

Cavendish (sprinters) and Contador (climbers) seem to like the course

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"What do you have to do _more_ for the green jersey?"

“Hopefully not get caught out by a barrier.”

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did he say that?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cav, yes.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice!!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that is if Astana release him!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

that’s not fair to Carlos.
he was the strongest man in the race.

by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you see his ascent of alpe d'huez

cadel only wishes he had that kind of kick, no way anyone was better than him in that race.

by agl on Oct 14, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am disappointed

that Thor didn’t wear a Green suit

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh dear

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and that's one of the better pictures,

he looked much worse on the stage where you could see the jeans and all ao the jacket.

by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wekl thor is in jacket and shirt... but what about the pants??

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's terrible,

but I also find it kind of adorable that it’s so terrible.

by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i take it back,

that is not a rebel without a cause.

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hhmm thinking he isn't that bad, being he is young..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sorta agree

but the jacket was awful, wooly and shapeless.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he's not THAT young! I knew how to dress up when I was his age!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he has grown in in a different world to us.....

I’m happy to give him the benefit of the doubt at this stage… If he does it in 3 or 4 years… hmmmm

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, in Lux people are generally fairly wealthy and dress nicely

Andy must be an exception.

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"fairly wealthy" & "dress nicely" don't necessarily always go together

(& I bet Andy isn’t short of a few quid).

I’ve been to Luxembourg. Once. Can’t say I noticed either way.

by civetta on Oct 14, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should qualify my response with this

I live 45 minutes from Lux city and most of the people his age in Lux (in the city anyways) tend to dress up often when out and about..

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only good thing

is that when he gets a bit older he will already have a wardrobe full of old-man clothes

by Monty. on Oct 14, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conducting obesity-research

in a brave attempt to save his brother

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey!

Not all scientists are badly dressed.

Although I do frequently pass a guy on the stairs at work who wears shorts, knee high socks and sandals, and has a lovely collection of knitted vests.

by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

overall fashionwise

this was really bad, no? Boring suits and stuff. Hopefully the giro is better?

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It assuredly will be

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see winners

and someone with lots to learn.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the suit to the right of andy is not bad.

Andy’s mom is shaking her head …

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh my

now I see the jeans it’s even worse!

by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and his shirt collar disappeared, and he didn’t button up his jacket. It hung around him like a sack.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alberto Contador: International Man of Mystery

Andy Schleck: 8:th grade substitute teacher

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

couldn't really tell, thought it might be,

but face looked a little funny at that angle i guess

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take Contador first.....

But hey.. andy is looking HOT to me!!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pretty OT, but about fashion disasters,

have you seen what Rafa has been wearing lately?

by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes.

and let’s stop right here……

by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they are trying to build a new image of a man

not a boy.

the one in aussie open is not bad.

by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

same here,

I was talking about those shorts, not the stuff he’s been wearing all year.

by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, totally

that should stay in the bedroom IMO.

by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

but I think yeehoo is.

by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd take him HOT & Sweaty!

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shit shouldn't make a fun comment like that..

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they all looked a bit uncomfortable on that stage,

wasn’t a happy sight. But Conta looked very happy when they took pictures of just him alone with the route plan.

by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of these things jsut doesn't belong.

Andy…you know why?

He’s the only one with a contract with a guaranteed Protour status next year.

"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck

by Hons on Oct 14, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One real TT

that will get some comments I’m sure.
Tourmalet finish day after restday is just evil.

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Leather jacket?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Si

It’s how he is, who he is.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean Laurent Jalabert?

Doper is a little irrelevant now… Also because that was how everyone race than

by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is Richard Virenque

à la Festina scandal

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jaja has never been officially accused

not to mention sanctioned and weeping on TV.
We may think that he is part of that generation but he hasn’t made an ass out of himself and cycling the way Tricky Dick Virenque has.

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh.. Get the confussion..

Had put the wrong name on it but the story stands..

And can’t blame him.. If you look to the top 20’s of the Tour in that time you saw everyone doped

by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jens are you really an American masquerading as a Swede?

You make many a reference to very American things. Me thinks you’re really a yank!

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why would anyone masquerade as a swede?

they don’t give all those vacation days to masqueraders.

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh

How many times do we have to repeat this? It has been definitively established that Jens is a Norwegian masquerading as a Swede, and this whole American pop culture stuff is just a ruse to throw the immigration authorities off his trail.

Jo, Jens?

by Sui Juris on Oct 14, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Norwegian masquerading as a Swede?

You know those are fighting words!

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, with Virenque it's different

He was the biggest whining douche ever, denying everything as last man standing on his team, and then he finally did admit. And France & Le Tour, you know, the people always taking a bizarrely righteous stance against doping, have embraced him once again.

Bah.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when I first started watching the Tour live

was when Virenque was winning all the polka dots

It’s amazing what a legend he is in France despite everything

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bit of a joke too though

when i hear him mentioned it is usually with a snicker at how ridiculous he was

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think in general

Jaja is far more respected …. post career too

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't the Virenque-love

mostly among the mainstream fans in France. The ones who aren’t necessarily fanatics but just exposed to the Tour in the summer and like the spectacle on TV and at the roadside?

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah maybe true

I will say he’s not the worst TV announcer

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you mean

like the LA fans in the US?

"…I saw bloody Cavendish coming, really fast…"
HH

by ELVISGOAT on Oct 14, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

sharpest of the day by far

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very snappy

I always thought girls have it tougher when it comes to dressing up, as there are so many options. But cyclists have shown us yet again that it is not so easy to just throw on a suit.

by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tougher?

Formal occasions are really, really simple… black pants, white shirt, black jacket/blazer, and give the Blundstone boots a good polish.

(No, I am female – honest!)

by Lou... on Oct 14, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

And I look far better in skirts anyway. They cover the thighs ;-)

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very strange trousers if they don't even cover your thighs...

undies?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was searching my past for!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha!

You know what I mean ;-) You can still see thigh size in trousers!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but my interpretation was more fun :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think I've ever worn hotpants in my life!

Apart from maybe over ballet tights…once ;-)

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be 'unAustralian' not to have...ha!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love that man in a suit :)))

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

his sideburns

are trying to make a dash to the floor. Somebody stop them, please. That or he’s exploring his hasidic roots.

by Sui Juris on Oct 14, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2010 Course Summary

1 prologue,
9 flat stages,
6 mountain stages and 3 summit finishes,
4 medium mountain stages,
1 individual time-trial stage (59 km)

From official website

by PopUp Rolen on Oct 14, 2009 7:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 summit finishes

Ax 3 Domain (Plateau de Bonascre), Morzine and Tourmalet

But Mende is also a finishing climb that will make gaps and what about Station des Rousses? “A 14 km final climb” sounds like maybe like the first climb in 2008 won by Ricco?

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They kept saying Morzine

but that is the start/bottom of the climb …. it finishes up top at Avoriaz

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

an uphill kick for the tdf, also used in paris-nice (conta won in 2007)

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Used twice before

Jalabert won in 1995 and Serrano in 2004 or 2005.

It’s an awesome stagefinish.

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So little in the way of time-trialing

and the summit finishes should make this a nice climbing test. maybe this tour will be closer than last.

by agl on Oct 14, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some mountain stages.

Stage 9:

Stage 14:

Stage 15:

Stage 16:

Stage 17:

by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EBH, Barry,Henderson

Add Goss and Roulston I suspect

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even though he's the fastest,

he’ll need the dominant train to win sprint after sprint like he did this year

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Less GC guys on the team next year

He will have a better team (on paper)

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell have renshaw, greipel, grabsch, rogers, goss

i think that will suffice for at least 4 stages

by agl on Oct 14, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Biciciclismo has some photos up

Let’s see if they allow hotlinking…

by majope on Oct 14, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hehe

great ….

but is it photoshopped as I only saw HWMNBN scowling all show

Moo

by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andy's tiny shoulders make him look very young and akward

Much like an elementary school kid. Shoulder shrugs Andy, shoulder shrugs!

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhh poor Andy, stuck in the middle...

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that's why Andy didn't dress up

he realized that he was there as a buffer between Contador and LA, and didn’t want to risk his nice clothes in the tussle that may yet happen.

by Sui Juris on Oct 14, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh God , i was going to swear and be really rude.. but deleted...

"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"

Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009

by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swear about what? Rude about what?

If there were a tussle, I’m assuming it would have been of the physical variety. If that were so, Bert would have no chance :)

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh?

what’s his excuse last year then?

by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someon could do nasty things to someone else here

There could be some sad and miserable puppies after that finish. Can’t decide if I think it’s a good thing.

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

12km cobbles in 27km.. That's long..

Do you know how many stars they get in PR?

by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haveluy is a 4

others are not PR ones as far as I can see

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw.. PR 2009

14 187,5 Tilloy à Sars-et-Rosières 2,4km

and

16 176,5 Hornaing à Wandignies-Hamage 3,7km

Only Couldn’t find the stars..

Source

by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is great. (the cobbles i mean)

I remember armstrong complaining so much about the cobbles in 2004. I wonder what he thinks now?

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Tout savoir sur l’itinéraire 2009 (PDF)

SECTEUR N°14 – DE TILLOY-LEZ-MARCHIENNES A SARS ET ROSIERES :
- 2400 mètres. – On est sur la D158b. – 1ers passages en 1980 et 1981 (mais seulement sur les 1400 premiers mètres). Depuis 1982, ce secteur a toujours été emprunté dans son intégralité. Secteur plutôt en forme de L avec 2 virages à droite à 90° et un virage à gauche à 90°. Les 1000 derniers mètres ont été refaits par le Conseil Général en 1996. – L’entrée du secteur est à 18m d’altitude, la fin à 19m. On confirme bien que l’on est dans la plaine. – Communes traversées : Tilloy-lez-Marchiennes et Sars et Rosières. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : * – Les pavés sont en bon état. Cette route est régulièrement entretenue. Secteur boueux parfois (travaux agricoles)

SECTEUR N°14 – DE TILLOY-LEZ-MARCHIENNES A SARS ET ROSIERES :
- 2400 mètres. – On est sur la D158b. – 1ers passages en 1980 et 1981 (mais seulement sur les 1400 premiers mètres). Depuis 1982, ce secteur a toujours été emprunté dans son intégralité. Secteur plutôt en forme de L avec 2 virages à droite à 90° et un virage à gauche à 90°. Les 1000 derniers mètres ont été refaits par le Conseil Général en 1996. – L’entrée du secteur est à 18m d’altitude, la fin à 19m. On confirme bien que l’on est dans la plaine. – Communes traversées : Tilloy-lez-Marchiennes et Sars et Rosières. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : * – Les pavés sont en bon état. Cette route est régulièrement entretenue. Secteur boueux parfois (travaux agricoles)

SECTEUR N° 16 – DE HORNAING A WANDIGNIES-HAMAGE VIA ERRE :
- 3700 mètres. – 1er passage en 1983, puis de 1984 à 1987 inclus sur les 2900 derniers mètres. 1er passage dans son intégralité (3700m) en 1988, toujours emprunté depuis. – Ce secteur a été emprunté sur les 2900 derniers mètres par le Tour de France 2004. – On est sur la D130. – L’entrée du secteur est à 23m d’altitude, la fin à 17m. On voit bien que l’on est dans la plaine. Ce secteur est en forme de L. Il est quasiment plat. On commence par 800m en ligne droite, puis virage à droite au niveau des 2 châteaux d’eau, puis ligne quasiment droite de 2900m vers Wandignies-Hamage. – Communes traversées : Hornaing, Erre et Wandignies-Hamage. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : * – Les pavés sont en bon état.

SECTEUR N° 18 – D’HAVELUY A WALLERS :
- 2500 mètres. – 1er passage en 2001, toujours emprunté depuis. – " baptisé " Bernard Hinault en présence de celui-ci le 28 mars 2005 par la municipalité d’Haveluy. – Ce secteur est parfois emprunté par les " 4 jours de Dunkerque ". – L’entrée du secteur est à 31m d’altitude, la fin à 34m. On commence par un très léger faux plat montant sur les 1800 premiers mètres (altitude 41m), puis on finit par un léger faux plat descendant (altitude 34m) sur les 600 derniers mètres. – Communes traversées : Haveluy, Wallers. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : ****
- Les pavés sont dans un état moyen. Secteur très boueux et plus difficile dans sa seconde partie. Travaux de repavage effectués par le LPH de Raismes en novembre 2008.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Copied the Tillow-Sars sector twice. I guess one of them wasn’t in P-R 2009.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait to see

Tony carrying Andy a la Horner over those cobbles.

"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck

by Hons on Oct 14, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cav doing the casual thing, and Pippo in a team suit


http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/imageBank/cache/t/tdf10_CAV-LANCE.jpg_e_eeef5d3e13b1af35d018ad1a1cd11393.jpg

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by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was just about to post that...

Show me more of Pippo……

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by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now there, pippo, there's a nice suit

armstrong looks like his suit is a little too small. Off the rack?

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he needs a better tailor ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lance's suit = way too big in the shoulder and chest.

Bert looks very good in his suit, but Lance not so much. There’s no reason for a guy with 5% body fat to wear a suit that is so relaxed in the upper body. It just makes him look like he’s about to fall over onto his face.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A darker tie would have helped too

That pale blue one was not good.

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by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

Bert had the dark skinny tie working for him. Considering how thin these guys are, the skinny tie is a good option.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bert looked great, but Pippo may have pipped him :)

The skinny tie was definitely the right option.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps it was on purpose.

As in, “Look how much of that retirement upper body weight I’ve lost lately, punk.”

by majope on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cav is casual

but pulls it off better than Andy who just looks sloppy. At least it’s a nice shirt.

by Katiek on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well should be a good tour

some cobbles, maybe some good bordures up north – frinking and tedvdw and lopex can report. Go through Will’s back yard in the alps. Plenty of great cols and some mtn top finishes. Including the tourmalet after a rest day. Final day flat TT – brad bordeaux will be there.

Hopefully armstrong will be there with the shack, contador with astana, and bruyneel with astana but actually working (and tweeting) for radio shack. Daily polemica at the café.

by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Treachery at it's finest!

Just like the good old days in France :)

If I just had one more gear, I...

by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's bad timing...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to hear it

Do you record the stages for later or just give it a miss?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point

I like the spectacle anyway..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing that would make it better

Is if Garmin put itching poweder in tCav’s shorts before the final stage. It also might be the only way they stop him.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're assuming Thor and Boonen are past it?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Past putting itching powder in Cav's shorts?

Not at all.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although Boonen might see all that powder and get the wrong idea.

Ba-dump.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And here was me thinking you wanted the red head to win ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Alpe d'Huez two years in a row?

Very surprising. It didn’t happen for more than 30 years.

I love the cobbles, and the Tourmalet double.
Stage 16 is a real monster.

Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !

by ton_oncle on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know! I was psyching myself up to climb it too ;-/

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, go for it anyway.

We want to see the pictures.

by majope on Oct 14, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What, of me sprawled on the road hyper ventilating?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not too surprising, I think

I don’t think they want to “waste” Alpe D’Huez, so to speak, before stage 10. Save it for next year when they can put it in the final week and have it mean more (like in 2008).

by Le Comte on Oct 14, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good choice

Overuse kills the magic.

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conta thinking “take the pic already!”

ok, this is from a few months ago, but how did I miss this pic of Thor and Lance at a presentation of “The Lance Armstrong Show” in Oslo

by Katiek on Oct 14, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thor looks like he's about to lynch him

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he's still wearing that sad tie..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that suit still fits horribly

Now it’s too short in the arms!

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by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We should look away

But i bet he’s wearing black socks :)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I over-interpreting

or is Oscar taunting Piti with his thick hair and low hairline?

by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not taking this race seriously until they produce the dolphins.

A few more pics on the official site—where they’ve removed Cav from the start list but still have hopes for Contador.

by majope on Oct 14, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oooo look,

Benat Intxausti is there too! :-))

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently Cancellara's nickname in Mexico is 'Espartacus'

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it just me, or does oscar look a bit like mr spock in that pic?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more the hair style

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is that on Barbie's left?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered the same thing...

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good call... I was thinking pretty Italian but I have no idea..

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Frenchman perhaps?

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone who did something in the TdF, presumably.

Everybody else there is top GC, green jersey, or stage winner.

by majope on Oct 15, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a really good call!

I’m not sure, but it’s very possible…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could be right...it's not a clear picture of him but the nose is the right shape

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly Le Mevel?

He was 10th in the Tour, and the highest-placed Frenchman. Pic here.

by majope on Oct 15, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hair looks a bit dark don't you think?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having looked at other photos based on yours and Ted's research

I’m inclining towards LeMevel. deignan’s face is a different shape. Contextually LeMevel makes more sense too. Hair…hmmm…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has very distinctively shaped earlobes there

which I think could be matched to the TDW pic. Haussler must have sold him some colour shampoo.

by tedvdw on Oct 15, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The nose is the clincher for me.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You da (wo)man! Bring muffins and bagels :-)

The light in this resolves the hair problem too. He’s lovely btw…

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, not bad!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh well done!

We bow down and worship ;-)

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, thank you.

I knew he looked familiar—he was on my son’s Tour-only team.

by majope on Oct 15, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TDW didn't know either

He’s not captioned: http://www.tdwsport.com/webshop/picture/showPicture/120000&year=2009
(Vroomen & Van Poppel sit on the 2nd row)

by tedvdw on Oct 15, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only a fangirl (or boy) will know

Thanks for looking.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you make a Special Edition

Tourpresentation Barbie Barbie, you can use regular Ken-hair.

by Jens on Oct 15, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Dear

that hairstyle is so last season.

by Monty. on Oct 15, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem.

This is Paris-Nice Barbie Barbie. It says so on the box.

by majope on Oct 15, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choking hazard?

Are you saying he can’t take the pressure of the big races?

by Jens on Oct 15, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is pure genius. You really should go into mass production.

How much would I have to pay you for a Benna Barbie? ;-)

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 16, 2009 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm, this may be a problem...

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Oct 16, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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