Tour de France 2010 Presentation........LIVE Second Thread
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all I want to say at this stage is
Andy, WTF
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully once the people who could see the fashion post!!!!
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glaciers?
I wasn’t watching the presentation – and this is the important question…
by Lou... on Oct 14, 2009 6:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
appaently schleck, bert and LA on stage.. want a pic..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no you don't
they didn’t look good and Andy looked awkward and a bit lost. And the outfit…
by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking for a
larger pic, but here you go for now
by Katiek on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has it finished now?
My picture is stuck on that image of the Tourmalet with its hand on its hip
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 6:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess we'll have to rely on photos for the fashion analysis then
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 6:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fashion tip form a Pro
@stevendejongh Ohhh glad you said that, heard the same.. But still haven’t seen a pic..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oops wrong one...
Time for lunch at 13:00, Andy looked a bit underdressed.
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
underdressed is cool
rebel without a cause
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wearing the same shirt from last year tho
is not cool.
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh please tell me he didn't!!!
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the baggy jeans were the worst
or the ill-fitting jacket
by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats it... I'm going to speak to that man!!
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope without the sweat stains this year.
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey.. some people can't help that.. May be a problem!!
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ewww
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahaha
And.. I think I’m glad I don’t see the Tour.
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting that both
Cavendish (sprinters) and Contador (climbers) seem to like the course
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wiggins is freezing his ass of in Aust.... may need to tweet himm.. whilst there
Tell him to come to Queensland not victoria
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What do you have to do _more_ for the green jersey?"
“Hopefully not get caught out by a barrier.”
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did he say that?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that is if Astana release him!
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But srsly, of the Astana mess being resolved in the next few days even.
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bryuneel: "As far as I remember there has not been a Tour where the strongest guy hasn't won."
(Forgot about Pereiro, I guess)
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or i should say le mond won
but fignon was stronger that year.
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see his ascent of alpe d'huez
cadel only wishes he had that kind of kick, no way anyone was better than him in that race.
by agl on Oct 14, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am disappointed
that Thor didn’t wear a Green suit
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh dear
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that's one of the better pictures,
he looked much worse on the stage where you could see the jeans and all ao the jacket.
by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wekl thor is in jacket and shirt... but what about the pants??
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's terrible,
but I also find it kind of adorable that it’s so terrible.
by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i take it back,
that is not a rebel without a cause.
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hhmm thinking he isn't that bad, being he is young..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sorta agree
but the jacket was awful, wooly and shapeless.
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's not THAT young! I knew how to dress up when I was his age!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he has grown in in a different world to us.....
I’m happy to give him the benefit of the doubt at this stage… If he does it in 3 or 4 years… hmmmm
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what, is everyone so badly dressed in Luxembourg? ;-)
by civetta on Oct 14, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, in Lux people are generally fairly wealthy and dress nicely
Andy must be an exception.
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"fairly wealthy" & "dress nicely" don't necessarily always go together
(& I bet Andy isn’t short of a few quid).
I’ve been to Luxembourg. Once. Can’t say I noticed either way.
by civetta on Oct 14, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should qualify my response with this
I live 45 minutes from Lux city and most of the people his age in Lux (in the city anyways) tend to dress up often when out and about..
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only good thing
is that when he gets a bit older he will already have a wardrobe full of old-man clothes
by Monty. on Oct 14, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or he can be a scientist when he retires from cycling
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conducting obesity-research
in a brave attempt to save his brother
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey!
Not all scientists are badly dressed.
Although I do frequently pass a guy on the stairs at work who wears shorts, knee high socks and sandals, and has a lovely collection of knitted vests.
by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds more like an inventor to me
does he like cheese, too?
by Monty. on Oct 14, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or a reumbent rider.
"My facking goat didn’t wear Robes! Does he look Scottisch?!" Baron von Frinkenstein
by itswells on Oct 14, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
overall fashionwise
this was really bad, no? Boring suits and stuff. Hopefully the giro is better?
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It assuredly will be
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see winners
and someone with lots to learn.

by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the suit to the right of andy is not bad.
Andy’s mom is shaking her head …
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh my
now I see the jeans it’s even worse!
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it couldn't go any lower
I was wrong….
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, but andy is the only one we've talked about.
He wins!
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and his shirt collar disappeared, and he didn’t button up his jacket. It hung around him like a sack.
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alberto Contador: International Man of Mystery
Andy Schleck: 8:th grade substitute teacher
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldn't really tell, thought it might be,
but face looked a little funny at that angle i guess
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give him that--he does look good in a suit.
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
coming from you that is sooo much more impressive! :)
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Contador first.....
But hey.. andy is looking HOT to me!!
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty OT, but about fashion disasters,
have you seen what Rafa has been wearing lately?
by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should've stuck with his muscle shirts
he’s lost his mojo
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are trying to build a new image of a man
not a boy.
the one in aussie open is not bad.
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as a matter of fact I'm watching him right now....
aaaggghhhh
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here,
I was talking about those shorts, not the stuff he’s been wearing all year.
by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, totally
that should stay in the bedroom IMO.
by rbjhan on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If by "hot" you mean "sweaty," then--yeah.
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd take him HOT & Sweaty!
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit shouldn't make a fun comment like that..
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they all looked a bit uncomfortable on that stage,
wasn’t a happy sight. But Conta looked very happy when they took pictures of just him alone with the route plan.
by amarone on Oct 14, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of these things jsut doesn't belong.
Andy…you know why?
He’s the only one with a contract with a guaranteed Protour status next year.
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
by Hons on Oct 14, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One real TT
that will get some comments I’m sure.
Tourmalet finish day after restday is just evil.
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Andy said, in a fatalistic voice, "But it's long enough."
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
59 km total
he’s never going to get less
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leather jacket?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean Laurent Jalabert?
Doper is a little irrelevant now… Also because that was how everyone race than
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is Richard Virenque
à la Festina scandal
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jaja has never been officially accused
not to mention sanctioned and weeping on TV.
We may think that he is part of that generation but he hasn’t made an ass out of himself and cycling the way Tricky Dick Virenque has.
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh.. Get the confussion..
Had put the wrong name on it but the story stands..
And can’t blame him.. If you look to the top 20’s of the Tour in that time you saw everyone doped
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I guess it's different if you denie than that you dope after the Festina-thing..
Well.. Il would be not logic.. Or probably missing some points
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jens are you really an American masquerading as a Swede?
You make many a reference to very American things. Me thinks you’re really a yank!
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would anyone masquerade as a swede?
they don’t give all those vacation days to masqueraders.
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh
How many times do we have to repeat this? It has been definitively established that Jens is a Norwegian masquerading as a Swede, and this whole American pop culture stuff is just a ruse to throw the immigration authorities off his trail.
Jo, Jens?
by Sui Juris on Oct 14, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Norwegian masquerading as a Swede?
You know those are fighting words!
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, yes
the enigmatic hairdresser from Leicester
by Monty. on Oct 14, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sui's mind
Two white pegs, no black pegs
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently he's also the most interesting man in the world

When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, with Virenque it's different
He was the biggest whining douche ever, denying everything as last man standing on his team, and then he finally did admit. And France & Le Tour, you know, the people always taking a bizarrely righteous stance against doping, have embraced him once again.
Bah.
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when I first started watching the Tour live
was when Virenque was winning all the polka dots
It’s amazing what a legend he is in France despite everything
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bit of a joke too though
when i hear him mentioned it is usually with a snicker at how ridiculous he was
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think in general
Jaja is far more respected …. post career too
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't the Virenque-love
mostly among the mainstream fans in France. The ones who aren’t necessarily fanatics but just exposed to the Tour in the summer and like the spectacle on TV and at the roadside?
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah maybe true
I will say he’s not the worst TV announcer
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very snappy
I always thought girls have it tougher when it comes to dressing up, as there are so many options. But cyclists have shown us yet again that it is not so easy to just throw on a suit.
by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not always!
So many more chances to get it wrong.
by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to think there are many things worse than boring
For example, that white embellished suit Fabian wore to some awards ceremony. Just awful. (Don’t tell Lou I said that.)
by celerity on Oct 14, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well not-boring often leads to disaster,
but it gives us something to laugh about.
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tougher?
Formal occasions are really, really simple… black pants, white shirt, black jacket/blazer, and give the Blundstone boots a good polish.
(No, I am female – honest!)
by Lou... on Oct 14, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
evidently you have no problems getting trousers to fit you ;-)
by civetta on Oct 14, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, you mean with my huge...
bwwwaahahaha!
by Lou... on Oct 14, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
And I look far better in skirts anyway. They cover the thighs ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very strange trousers if they don't even cover your thighs...
undies?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I was searching my past for!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha!
You know what I mean ;-) You can still see thigh size in trousers!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but my interpretation was more fun :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I've ever worn hotpants in my life!
Apart from maybe over ballet tights…once ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be 'unAustralian' not to have...ha!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love that man in a suit :)))
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his sideburns
are trying to make a dash to the floor. Somebody stop them, please. That or he’s exploring his hasidic roots.
by Sui Juris on Oct 14, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like a crooner in the last pic
“Bluueee Mooooon”
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2010 Course Summary
1 prologue,
9 flat stages,
6 mountain stages and 3 summit finishes,
4 medium mountain stages,
1 individual time-trial stage (59 km)
From official website
by PopUp Rolen on Oct 14, 2009 7:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 summit finishes
Ax 3 Domain (Plateau de Bonascre), Morzine and Tourmalet
But Mende is also a finishing climb that will make gaps and what about Station des Rousses? “A 14 km final climb” sounds like maybe like the first climb in 2008 won by Ricco?
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They kept saying Morzine
but that is the start/bottom of the climb …. it finishes up top at Avoriaz
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
an uphill kick for the tdf, also used in paris-nice (conta won in 2007)
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Used twice before
Jalabert won in 1995 and Serrano in 2004 or 2005.
It’s an awesome stagefinish.
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So little in the way of time-trialing
and the summit finishes should make this a nice climbing test. maybe this tour will be closer than last.
by agl on Oct 14, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some mountain stages.
Stage 9:

Stage 14:

Stage 15:

Stage 16:

Stage 17:

by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how many does he lose off his train?
hincapie at least.
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EBH, Barry,Henderson
Add Goss and Roulston I suspect
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even though he's the fastest,
he’ll need the dominant train to win sprint after sprint like he did this year
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Less GC guys on the team next year
He will have a better team (on paper)
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell have renshaw, greipel, grabsch, rogers, goss
i think that will suffice for at least 4 stages
by agl on Oct 14, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Biciciclismo has some photos up
Let’s see if they allow hotlinking…

by majope on Oct 14, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Andy's tiny shoulders make him look very young and akward
Much like an elementary school kid. Shoulder shrugs Andy, shoulder shrugs!
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ohhh poor Andy, stuck in the middle...
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's why Andy didn't dress up
he realized that he was there as a buffer between Contador and LA, and didn’t want to risk his nice clothes in the tussle that may yet happen.
by Sui Juris on Oct 14, 2009 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First he has to prove he has nice clothes.
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think LA would probably take Bert, no problem.
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God , i was going to swear and be really rude.. but deleted...
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swear about what? Rude about what?
If there were a tussle, I’m assuming it would have been of the physical variety. If that were so, Bert would have no chance :)
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy showed up in the smae suit as .... and was told to take it off
Moo
by Willj on Oct 14, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good one Will
I can totally see that happening for reals.
by ZoeRochelle on Oct 14, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mom.. Why did you buy me a suit of the Monoprix?!
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he needs to listen to his mom
or get a bossy girlfriend
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
helping, helping!
yeehoo is either dead or single now
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's ok, i have a girl but
i dress like andy, so …
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you call her bossy when she gives you pointers?
Brave man
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh no no, i don't call her bossy.
i call other women bossy – from a good distance
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lance's shoulder pads are too big in this suit.
by ZoeRochelle on Oct 14, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think that he looks very
presidential?
by Monty. on Oct 14, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someon could do nasty things to someone else here

There could be some sad and miserable puppies after that finish. Can’t decide if I think it’s a good thing.
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
12km cobbles in 27km.. That's long..
Do you know how many stars they get in PR?
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haveluy is a 4
others are not PR ones as far as I can see
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok thanx.. and 4 is a lot.. I so hope I can see this satge
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw.. PR 2009
14 187,5 Tilloy à Sars-et-Rosières 2,4km
and
16 176,5 Hornaing à Wandignies-Hamage 3,7km
Only Couldn’t find the stars..
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is great. (the cobbles i mean)
I remember armstrong complaining so much about the cobbles in 2004. I wonder what he thinks now?
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Tout savoir sur l’itinéraire 2009 (PDF)
SECTEUR N°14 – DE TILLOY-LEZ-MARCHIENNES A SARS ET ROSIERES :
- 2400 mètres. – On est sur la D158b. – 1ers passages en 1980 et 1981 (mais seulement sur les 1400 premiers mètres). Depuis 1982, ce secteur a toujours été emprunté dans son intégralité. Secteur plutôt en forme de L avec 2 virages à droite à 90° et un virage à gauche à 90°. Les 1000 derniers mètres ont été refaits par le Conseil Général en 1996. – L’entrée du secteur est à 18m d’altitude, la fin à 19m. On confirme bien que l’on est dans la plaine. – Communes traversées : Tilloy-lez-Marchiennes et Sars et Rosières. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : * – Les pavés sont en bon état. Cette route est régulièrement entretenue. Secteur boueux parfois (travaux agricoles)
SECTEUR N°14 – DE TILLOY-LEZ-MARCHIENNES A SARS ET ROSIERES :
- 2400 mètres. – On est sur la D158b. – 1ers passages en 1980 et 1981 (mais seulement sur les 1400 premiers mètres). Depuis 1982, ce secteur a toujours été emprunté dans son intégralité. Secteur plutôt en forme de L avec 2 virages à droite à 90° et un virage à gauche à 90°. Les 1000 derniers mètres ont été refaits par le Conseil Général en 1996. – L’entrée du secteur est à 18m d’altitude, la fin à 19m. On confirme bien que l’on est dans la plaine. – Communes traversées : Tilloy-lez-Marchiennes et Sars et Rosières. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : * – Les pavés sont en bon état. Cette route est régulièrement entretenue. Secteur boueux parfois (travaux agricoles)
SECTEUR N° 16 – DE HORNAING A WANDIGNIES-HAMAGE VIA ERRE :
- 3700 mètres. – 1er passage en 1983, puis de 1984 à 1987 inclus sur les 2900 derniers mètres. 1er passage dans son intégralité (3700m) en 1988, toujours emprunté depuis. – Ce secteur a été emprunté sur les 2900 derniers mètres par le Tour de France 2004. – On est sur la D130. – L’entrée du secteur est à 23m d’altitude, la fin à 17m. On voit bien que l’on est dans la plaine. Ce secteur est en forme de L. Il est quasiment plat. On commence par 800m en ligne droite, puis virage à droite au niveau des 2 châteaux d’eau, puis ligne quasiment droite de 2900m vers Wandignies-Hamage. – Communes traversées : Hornaing, Erre et Wandignies-Hamage. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : * – Les pavés sont en bon état.
SECTEUR N° 18 – D’HAVELUY A WALLERS :
- 2500 mètres. – 1er passage en 2001, toujours emprunté depuis. – " baptisé " Bernard Hinault en présence de celui-ci le 28 mars 2005 par la municipalité d’Haveluy. – Ce secteur est parfois emprunté par les " 4 jours de Dunkerque ". – L’entrée du secteur est à 31m d’altitude, la fin à 34m. On commence par un très léger faux plat montant sur les 1800 premiers mètres (altitude 41m), puis on finit par un léger faux plat descendant (altitude 34m) sur les 600 derniers mètres. – Communes traversées : Haveluy, Wallers. – Classification de la dureté des pavés par JF Pescheux : ****
- Les pavés sont dans un état moyen. Secteur très boueux et plus difficile dans sa seconde partie. Travaux de repavage effectués par le LPH de Raismes en novembre 2008.
by tedvdw on Oct 14, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to see
Tony carrying Andy a la Horner over those cobbles.
"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck
by Hons on Oct 14, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cav doing the casual thing, and Pippo in a team suit
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was just about to post that...
Show me more of Pippo……
"the rest was over 30. And that doesn't mean old and useless, but experienced and with the stamina"
Jens! Voigt, Crit Intl Interview, 2009
by CycleGirl on Oct 14, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cav shaking hands or selling his soul Robert Johnson style?
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Put'ere there you old champ. Oh I'm not wearing a LS-bracelet, would you look at that"
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be surprised if after this picture was taken, Lance slid one on Cav's wrist.
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now there, pippo, there's a nice suit
armstrong looks like his suit is a little too small. Off the rack?
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he's wearing much off the rack stuff these days
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then he needs a better tailor ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lance's suit = way too big in the shoulder and chest.
Bert looks very good in his suit, but Lance not so much. There’s no reason for a guy with 5% body fat to wear a suit that is so relaxed in the upper body. It just makes him look like he’s about to fall over onto his face.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A darker tie would have helped too
That pale blue one was not good.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Bert had the dark skinny tie working for him. Considering how thin these guys are, the skinny tie is a good option.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bert looked great, but Pippo may have pipped him :)
The skinny tie was definitely the right option.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps it was on purpose.
As in, “Look how much of that retirement upper body weight I’ve lost lately, punk.”
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cav is casual
but pulls it off better than Andy who just looks sloppy. At least it’s a nice shirt.
by Katiek on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well should be a good tour
some cobbles, maybe some good bordures up north – frinking and tedvdw and lopex can report. Go through Will’s back yard in the alps. Plenty of great cols and some mtn top finishes. Including the tourmalet after a rest day. Final day flat TT – brad bordeaux will be there.
Hopefully armstrong will be there with the shack, contador with astana, and bruyneel with astana but actually working (and tweeting) for radio shack. Daily polemica at the café.
by yeehoo on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Treachery at it's finest!
Just like the good old days in France :)
If I just had one more gear, I...
by SpunOut on Oct 14, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well. I defintely are not arround the cobbles. If I'm not gone I will watch in Rotterdam but: C'est ca
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's bad timing...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well.. It's been so for the last 7 years so I can deal with it
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to hear it
Do you record the stages for later or just give it a miss?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just miss. But after i see Conta isin yellow and Cav has five stages and don't care that much anymore
by Frinking on Oct 14, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good point
I like the spectacle anyway..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing that would make it better
Is if Garmin put itching poweder in tCav’s shorts before the final stage. It also might be the only way they stop him.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're assuming Thor and Boonen are past it?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Past putting itching powder in Cav's shorts?
Not at all.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although Boonen might see all that powder and get the wrong idea.
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here was me thinking you wanted the red head to win ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Alpe d'Huez two years in a row?
Very surprising. It didn’t happen for more than 30 years.
I love the cobbles, and the Tourmalet double.
Stage 16 is a real monster.
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know! I was psyching myself up to climb it too ;-/
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, go for it anyway.
We want to see the pictures.
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, of me sprawled on the road hyper ventilating?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too surprising, I think
I don’t think they want to “waste” Alpe D’Huez, so to speak, before stage 10. Save it for next year when they can put it in the final week and have it mean more (like in 2008).
by Le Comte on Oct 14, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lance looks like he’s tweeting while Cav and Andy chat
by Katiek on Oct 14, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for those--more good ones at that site
Nice one of Andy smiling.
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conta thinking “take the pic already!”
ok, this is from a few months ago, but how did I miss this pic of Thor and Lance at a presentation of “The Lance Armstrong Show” in Oslo
by Katiek on Oct 14, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thor looks like he's about to lynch him
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he's still wearing that sad tie..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that suit still fits horribly
Now it’s too short in the arms!
When I'm on the mic, I'm like global warming, you can't ignore me.
by tehGrindCrusher on Oct 14, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should look away
But i bet he’s wearing black socks :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 14, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I over-interpreting
or is Oscar taunting Piti with his thick hair and low hairline?
by Jens on Oct 14, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not taking this race seriously until they produce the dolphins.
A few more pics on the official site—where they’ve removed Cav from the start list but still have hopes for Contador.
by majope on Oct 14, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps Andy thought he was going to the presentation for this race
and that would explain his attire?
by Katiek on Oct 14, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooo look,
Benat Intxausti is there too! :-))
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Cancellara's nickname in Mexico is 'Espartacus'
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 14, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is it just me, or does oscar look a bit like mr spock in that pic?
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more the hair style
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Oct 14, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is that on Barbie's left?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered the same thing...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call... I was thinking pretty Italian but I have no idea..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does look familiar...but for some reason I'm not thinking Italian.
I’ll look around.
by majope on Oct 15, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Frenchman perhaps?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Someone who did something in the TdF, presumably.
Everybody else there is top GC, green jersey, or stage winner.
by majope on Oct 15, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a really good call!
I’m not sure, but it’s very possible…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could be right...it's not a clear picture of him but the nose is the right shape
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly Le Mevel?
He was 10th in the Tour, and the highest-placed Frenchman. Pic here.
by majope on Oct 15, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The hair looks a bit dark don't you think?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having looked at other photos based on yours and Ted's research
I’m inclining towards LeMevel. deignan’s face is a different shape. Contextually LeMevel makes more sense too. Hair…hmmm…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has very distinctively shaped earlobes there
which I think could be matched to the TDW pic. Haussler must have sold him some colour shampoo.
by tedvdw on Oct 15, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The nose is the clincher for me.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You da (wo)man! Bring muffins and bagels :-)
The light in this resolves the hair problem too. He’s lovely btw…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, not bad!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well done!
We bow down and worship ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, thank you.
I knew he looked familiar—he was on my son’s Tour-only team.
by majope on Oct 15, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TDW didn't know either
He’s not captioned: http://www.tdwsport.com/webshop/picture/showPicture/120000&year=2009
(Vroomen & Van Poppel sit on the 2nd row)
by tedvdw on Oct 15, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only a fangirl (or boy) will know
Thanks for looking.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you make a Special Edition
Tourpresentation Barbie Barbie, you can use regular Ken-hair.
by Jens on Oct 15, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! He should have tried a little harder if he wants this look to make the Barbie Barbie line.
Which reminds me…

by majope on Oct 15, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem.
This is Paris-Nice Barbie Barbie. It says so on the box.

by majope on Oct 15, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Choking hazard?
Are you saying he can’t take the pressure of the big races?
by Jens on Oct 15, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is pure genius. You really should go into mass production.
How much would I have to pay you for a Benna Barbie? ;-)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 16, 2009 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Mattel make a doll beautiful enough?
by majope on Oct 16, 2009 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm, this may be a problem...
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 16, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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