Giro di Lombardia: Preview and Power Poll!
It's time... one last piece for the Cafe Race Preview Bulletin Board, before the patrons settle in for a winter of endless nonsense (yay!). But for me, there is little to discuss besides the who. What and where? Read Gavia's course description (though avert your eyes before you get to the Jani photo). Here's a sampling:
After another 25 kilometers of flat racing, the real Giro begins, and the final 50 kilometers of the Giro di Lombardia constantly climb and descend. After passing through Onno, the favorites will begin moving toward the front in preparation for the climb to the Madonna del Ghisallo. The road wraps around the hillside and climbs through 9 kilometers of switchbacks to the summit. There sits the iconic chapel which celebrates the sport of cycling. One of the favorites will surely take at dig on the road to the Ghisallo, but it’s still 45 kilometers to race to the finish, so this climb rarely decides the race.
No, that would be the Civiglio, at 20km out, or the San Fermo della Battaglia, maybe 12km from the finish. The race happens in fits and starts over the last hour, which gives riders several places and ways to win: on a climb, on a descent, on the flats or in a sprint. To be a Monument, you must beguile the audience at least a little. Lombardia certainly does that. Anyway, the course remains about the same. And unless you're Count Ghisallo, you still probably can't see the Virgin Mary apparition, but you can see one of three significant churches dedicated to Cycling. Good stuff. Onto the favorites. A word about the ratings... Skillz and Form are weighted, using the 1-5, while the others are 1-3 points. Anywho...
Damiano Cunego
Skillz: Mad. They have nearly renamed the race after him. Couple more wins. 5 points (of 5)
Form: Like Gavia, I'm suspect. Cunego hit the gas in Mendrisio, when he recognized the Evans threat, and... nothing happened. He's not terrible, and has wisely backed off a bit lately, presumably to aid in recovery, but the Worlds were his real goal this year, and I suspect Lombardia is anticlimactic, physically and mentally. Not everyone can peak for months. It's not easy being clean. 3 points (of 5)
Team: Decent enough squad. Alessandro Ballan is the co-headliner, but look for usual suspects like Gasparotto, Tiralongo and Mori to do the lifting. 2 points (of 3)
History: The preeminent Lombardia racer of his time. 3 points (of 3)
Ghisallobecco Says: With his history and everyone watching, he'd have to beat the entire field. Doesn't look like a world-beater to me.
As you can see, this won't be short. You don't have to take the poll before we see you on the flip, BTW...
Philippe Gilbert
Skillz: Well, he can climb. And he can sprint. And he can attack. It's easy to lump Lombardia in with Liege-Bastogne-Liege, and say it's a bit too climby for Gilbert, who usually slots in between the Flemish stuff and the Ardennes. But then I see names like Argentin and Tafi on the winners' list, and think, if il Gladiatore can power over these hills, why can't Phil? 4.5 points
Form: Fire isn't as hot as Gilbert right now. 5 points
Team: The startlist still sucks right now, but I'll guess that Gilbert has the best team. Helpers are always nice, but this race offers so much space to attackers that having another weapon is probably the most important. Nobody has two weapons like Silence-Lotto (did I really just write that??). Most teams don't even have one. 3 points
History: He has gone all Cunego on the poor Paris-Tours field, and in doing so has usually skipped Lombardia. 1 point
Total: 13.5
Ghisallobecco Says: Go ahead. Bet against him. I dare you.
World Champion Cadel Evans
Skillz: Gilbert without the sprint. If Cuddles wants to win, he'll have to go from further out. Apparently he knows how to do that. 4 points
Form: I am a little suspect that he's at his best. I suppose it's possible, but really, how much more can we expect from the guy? 4.5 points
Team: See above. Still can't believe I wrote that. 3 points
History: His best finish is 4th back in his T-Mobile days, though I have no idea what to do with that information. Goes back and forth between top ten and also-ran. But he knows the route very well, and we saw what familiarity did for him in Mendrisio. 2 points
Total: 13.5
Ghisallobecco Says: A world champion? On nearly top form? Playing decoy? Not bloody likely.
Robert Gesink
Skillz: Climber supreme. The rest of it... I dunno, he got off to a rocky start but I don't want to overdo the whole Gesink-will-never-be-able-to-descend thing. But not having a sprint is a real handicap here. 3.5 points
Form: Won Emilia, which is the next best indicator of form to, say, a three-victories-in-a-week rampage. 5 points
Team: If Ten Dam is in, then Rabo field one of the strongest teams, for certain. We know about Boom and Mollema already. I rate them just behind Silence, however, because Monuments don't coddle the kids, particularly when it comes to tactics. 2.5 points
History: Bobo has two official Foglie Morte under his belt (15th in his debut), as well as a Settimana Lombarda win and some other nice results in the fall classics. For his age, that's about as much as you could hope. 2 points
Total: 13
Ghisallobecco Says: Last Dutch winner: Hennie Kuiper, 1981. You, sir, are no Hennie Kuiper.
Samuel Sanchez
Skillz: Same ol' Samu -- the total package, right down to the last 100 meters. And that descent off the San Fermo della Battaglia would look inviting if he thought for a second that his rivals weren't totally expecting a move. 5 points
Form: Complete mystery. He punted around at Paris-Tours, his only appearance since Mendrisio. Is this a good thing or bad? Who knows? 2.5 points
Team: An asset? I dunno, I never really get the feeling that Sammy excels thanks to his team. 1 points
History: Couple podiums. If he races here long enough, he'll eventually win. Or get too old. 3 points
Total: 11.5
Ghisallobecco Says: Go ahead. Bet on him. I dare ya.
Ivan Basso
Skillz: What skill does he bring to the table besides climbing? Language? Basso's hallmark is consistency, which is why he's known for long stage races, not classics. 3 points
Form: About what you would expect, riding near the front without making anyone too nervous. It has been a long season though, which probably hurts after missing the last two. 4 points
Team: Usual suspects, who ride like gangbusters on home soil pretty much every day. He lacks another real weapon, but Szmyd, Zaugg, Carlstrong, etc. will be visible up front, where he needs them. 2.5 points
History: Third in 2004, for what little that's worth. But he's on familiar turf. 2 points
Total: 11.5
Ghisallobecco Says: This race is at least four stages too short for him.
Joaquim Rodriguez
Skillz: Another Spaniard with the full-on package, though his sprint isn't top-five. 4 points
Form: After his Worlds bronze, he has fallen off the map. It's always hard to distinguish resting from sucking, particularly at this time of year. So I'll split the difference. 2.5 points
Team: Juggernaut. Apart from the fact that everyone can climb, he has Rigoberto Uran (3rd last year) as a second weapon. The only question is whether his soon to be former team is all that devoted to J-Rod's efforts. 2.5 points
History: Meh. He's been there. 1.5 points
Total: 10.5
Ghisallobecco Says: Hmm... do I smell a Katusha on-road alliance brewing here?
Thomas Lovkvist
Skillz: No better or worse than everyone else here who doesn't win many sprints. His best days usually come in Italy. 3 points
Form: Looked great in Emilia up to the last km. He's had a fair number of race days since August 1, but if he was good last weekend, I wouldn't be shocked if he was good one more time. 4 points
Team: The usual assortment of about five guys you could picture winning, though I'd be shocked if any of them did. 2.5 points
History: First appearance in four years. 1 point
Total: 10.5 points
Ghisallobecco Says: Last Swedish winner: hang on... it's on the tip of my tongue...
Giovanni Visconti
Skillz: Like so many others. History of near misses suggests it's a bit long for him. 3.5 points
Form: Always peaks this time of year. 4 points
Team: Visible from outer space. 1 point
History: A 4th and 9th so far. Obviously he likes being here. 2.5 points
Total: 11
Ghisallobecco Says: Coming close year after year doesn't mean you'll eventually win.
Filippo Pozzato
Skillz: Not exactly a climber, but he might just eek out the ascents here. If so, the rest of the work is right up his alley. To me, he's a real sleeper. 3 points
Form: Rock-solid. 4th on the Grammont, won his prior start at the Memorial Cimurri. Otherwise nursing his form. Just a guess but I suspect he is one of the more highly motivated people at the race. 4 points
Team: Do you count Rodriguez? Otherwise, it's perfectly solid. 2 points
History: Mediocre. Maybe I'm getting all excited about nothing. 1 point
Total: 10
Ghisallobecco Says: If Pippo is a great rider, he gets over the hump and wins this race someday. And if he's just what he is, then he comes close and falls back. In other words, I have no hair gel jokes here...
Alexandr Kolobnev
Skillz: Hm, for all his autumn exploits, he has never cracked the top ten here. Maybe the descents don't like him? Maybe he's worried about slipping out on falling leaves? 2 points
Form: Ripping. Worlds silver medal, seventh at Emilia. No two better data points than that. 4.5 points
Team: Assuming all is tranquillo, he has a huge weapon in teammate Fuglsang, at least until the latter runs away with the race. Usual assortment of great helpers (Jens!). 3 points
History: Bubkis. Why? 1 point
Total: 10.5
Ghisallobecco Says: You are what your results say you are. In this case, a bizarre world championships elite men's road race specialist.
Jakob Fuglsang
Skillz: I am getting tired... He goes up and down, hammers a lot, and can sprint. If experience is a skill, that's the one he's missing. 4 points
Form: Even better than his teammate's. Second at Emilia. 5 points
Team: See above. 3 points
History: Nuthin. 1 point
Total: 13!
Ghisallobecco Says: Uh oh...
Simon Gerrans
Skillz: People like him enough. Like Pozzato, if he gets near the line, he's trouble. 2 points
Form: I dunno, he left a lot on the road over the last 6 weeks or so. 2 points
Team: Knights of é are the can-do team of 2009. 2 points
History: None. He's usually kicking ass at the Jayco Herald Tour this time of year. 1 point
Total: 7
Ghisallobecco Says: Finally! A favorite who really isn't going to win!
Jani Brajkovic
Skillz: More of the same, non-sprinter version. 4 points
Form: Seems pretty good, though the Worlds were three weeks ago now. 3 points
Team: Someone has to stop Vinokourov. Is that a motivational tool? 2 points
History: Reigning champion in his mind, or at least til someone told him last fall to put his arms down. 3 points
Total: 12
Ghisallobecco Says: Another climber with a mixed history. Please make it stop.
Whew! That took a while, but then it's a Monument. Here is your final tally, in the precise order of finish:
- Gilbert 13.5
- Evans 13.5
- Cunego 13
- Fuglsang 13
- Gesink 13
- Brajkovic 12
- Sanchez 11.5
- Basso 11.5
- Visconti 11
- Lovkvist 10.5
- Rodriguez 10.5
- Kolobnev 10.5
- Pozzato 10
- Gerrans 7
So who ya got? Take the poll.
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One of these days
I’m going to stop betting on Kolobnev. And that will be the day he wins big.
Unfortunately, I voted for him and hereby have relegated him to yet another major 2nd place finish. Sigh.
by dansel on Oct 15, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Gilbert but I have a feeling Kolobnev will show something special...
I would also like to point out that when he does Lombardia, he will have had 102 race days this year. Pretty damn good for an era where most guys don’t go get over 75
by Vlaanderen90 on Oct 15, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Slightly o/t
Where do you find number of racedays for riders?
by Jens on Oct 15, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cqranking has one.
But they don’t give Gilbert the 101
http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/StatsRaceDays.asp?year=2009
by Frinking on Oct 15, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just clcik on usefull links when on the frontpage
by Frinking on Oct 15, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard an announcer at Paris-Tours say he had 100 race days...but CQ only does .1 races and above
so he might of had some small races that he did that were not listed…I might be mistaken but still it is a lot
by Vlaanderen90 on Oct 15, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a thought
Would Ghisallobecco live longer if Thomas Lövkvist were to win? One can never know these things.
Also the Eroica/Lombardia double would make for nice italian bookends to Lövkvist’s season.
by Jens on Oct 15, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He might, no?
But then we need to make room for Transferseasonbecco…
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris... on Oct 15, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my...where will this end?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 15, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know whether to laugh or sob!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 16, 2009 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm having breakfast at Balmoral tomorrow
and then in the afternoon I have to book my flight up to byron/lennox heads for christmas.
It’s a tough life…
by LurkerMcLurkerson on Oct 16, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to school there ;)
Hard to pay attention when the ferries are going by and the restaurants are whipping up lunch ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 16, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gerro, of course.
And I must point out that some of us are settling in for a long SUMMER of nonsense. Hemispherist!
by Lou... on Oct 15, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap.
Well, I won’t apologize to a nation that’s entering a stretch of 6 months of glorious sunshine and surf.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris... on Oct 15, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 I'm considering offending them myself, just so I can have a reason not to apologise
by Jens on Oct 15, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
by Drongo on Oct 15, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gerro for me too but I won't say no to Cuddles
We’ll do our talking on the road. They’re only aggressive now because they’re wrapped in layers of down. ;-)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, never mind the Swede...
… he lives in a cold and dark place, you know. That does things to people. ’Roo loose in the top paddock, kind of thing…
by Lou... on Oct 15, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can be magnanimous...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 15, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be a little unmagnaminous to post this?
I’m planning on going to the beach this weekend, maybe I’ll discover a generosity of spirit in the beautiful weather and charming scenery.
by LurkerMcLurkerson on Oct 16, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmmph
my link didn’t appear:
by LurkerMcLurkerson on Oct 16, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live next to a beach
and I’m telling you now the weather will be great and the water is fine ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny coincidence there
I bet that Spain, Brazil and Italy get the first three places in a “World’s dinkiest short-arses” too. And did I ever tell you of the Aussie couple I knew who met when she hauled him out of the drips tray at a party.
by Monty. on Oct 17, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it would :-(
I’m going to work, to help with a rollout of new PCs. THEN I’m going to Newcastle with my Mother. With luck, we won’t kill eachother during the trip. I should be back in time for Lombardia.
But do enjoy the beach ;-). It’s good to know that someone has a fabulous weekend on the cards… the thought will give me comfort, no doubt, LOL
by Lou... on Oct 16, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You on the other hand will have a shining halo O-)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 16, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cunego would be my prediction
Is Ivanov riding? I’d put him as Katusha’s leader on this race, it’s too hilly for pozzato
by William H on Oct 15, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"It's always hard to distinguish resting from sucking."
Brilliant. And so true.
by tgartner on Oct 15, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What, Ghisallobecco has no faith in Tom Danielson!?
Of course that is snark but seriously, come come, little Carlos Barredo is dangerous.
"As you can imagine, there are better places to have your birthday party than in some village called Mushny Mush Mishme." --The Wisdom of Jens
by Josenka on Oct 15, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see lots of people are sipping the Gilbert kool-aid for Lombardia
and after his last week why not, but I actually think racing so hard all of these races hurts him for Lombardia, plus I still do believe it’s too climby and the biggest factor is…that his name isn’t Damiano Cunego, who owns this shit! Oh and also about this quote
if il Gladiatore can power over these hills, why can’t Phil?
well it’s because I am not racing it.
Dammit Elk! I don't care if it's your mating season, you are disturbing my peaceful sleep! Just STFU!
by Phil H. on Oct 15, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah I kind of agree (well not on Phil winning), surely Gilbert has just burned himself out? Oh well I still voted for him, I’d love to see him finally bag a monument after so many close calls. Be a nice little tribute to VDB too. ps great read Chris, thoroughly enjoyed that.
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Oct 15, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh ps will Hesjedal be there? (guess I better read Gavia's preview)
Hesjedal’s my darkhorse
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Oct 15, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forget it he’s not even there wonder why
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Oct 15, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Ryder maybe ended his season after abandoning Worlds
part of quote post-worlds:
“I was hoping for better legs today that’s for sure,” he said afterwards.
“I felt off from the very start. It was a extremely difficult course and I was feeling bad from the beginning, and to continue didn’t make sense.”
full quote from Canadian Cyclist is here
by peterfish on Oct 17, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good luck
finding a full startlist. Maybe the Garmin site says?
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris... on Oct 15, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Martin
is riding, not sure about Hesjdahl.
by gavia on Oct 15, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too climby for PhilGil?
So it’s more climby than Worlds?
by tedvdw on Oct 15, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh right he won the climby worlds....oh no wait, no he didn't
yep I stand by my prediction it’s too climby for him to WIN, top 5 he can achieve.
Dammit Elk! I don't care if it's your mating season, you are disturbing my peaceful sleep! Just STFU!
by Phil H. on Oct 15, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I'm a little hesitant to make Gilbert a slam dunk favorite
I’m still a little skeptical about his ability to climb on such a tough course. If he finished 6th in the Worlds he obviously has the ability going uphill, but Lombardy has a couple of climbs that are almost mountain like, not the smaller hills that he excels on.
by Fernando on Oct 16, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, there's that fourth at LIège
Gilbert now does hillz. Which is pretty sweet.
by gavia on Oct 15, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also 3rd AG...or was it 4th...anyways
he’s said the only 1 that’s too tough for him is F-W, given how crazy the Mur is. Shit I guess I could say that about myself too but you get the point.
Also I’ll give him 3rd at Liège given that Rebellin beat him out for the podium ;)
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Oct 16, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fourth at Amstel
which was a mighty nice result also :-)
by gavia on Oct 16, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Philbert or his team mate.
Lotto has got two legitimate threats and we’ve seen they can work together, gasp.
by flying dog on Oct 15, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kolobnev
Usually, one of the Schlecks is the team leader for Lombardia, so he takes a back seat for, well, really, he takes a back seat all season. That’s why his only result usually comes at worlds – he’s riding for himself. I wonder if he’ll ever change teams, actually, though maybe he likes his chill roll on the team. Without the Schlecks, he’s in with a chance at this one, I’m thinking. Has form, can sprint, why not?
Heart says Cunego.
by gavia on Oct 15, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kolobnev all the way
I agree that Cunego can’t have kept his form this long. He’s on the way down.
On the other hand, Kolobnev is quick, especially when the finish is after a big hill and not on it. And he does go uphill just a tich better than Gilbert at times.
by dansel on Oct 15, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Kolobnev
Those worlds results were not just a fluke. Someday he is going to break through with a big win, and it could be here.
by tgartner on Oct 16, 2009 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great preview over at steephill, thanks for that
…and one small correction: Coppi has the record five wins at Lombardia.
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Oct 16, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously?
Meh, that Coppi, always lurking about. He’s as bad as Merckx when it comes to hogging the records. So, Cunego equals Binda, but doesn’t get the record.
by gavia on Oct 16, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's get to the important stuff
Is it being shown anywhere free on the net? I’m skipping a race tomorrow to watch it, so it better be.
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
by Drew... on Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Universal, no Cycling.TV
But I imagine the RAI feeds will be aplenty, via Justintv and the like.
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris... on Oct 16, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the RAI feeds. They have yet to top the call
of Tony winning MSR.
I mean uh... hasn't that ever occurred to you, man? Sir?
by Drew... on Oct 16, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully with no US feed
no one has an interest in shutting them down.
"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."
--Dino Buzzati
by nrs5000 on Oct 16, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted Cunego
Even though the smart money right now would be on Gilbert.
BTW – Very impressive preview Chris, how long does it take you to write this stuff up? And don’t say 20 minutes! :)
by Fernando on Oct 16, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so
He’s my number 1 fav of all time, outside of Greg Lemond, so it always puts a smile on my face when he wins a big race like Lombardy.
by Fernando on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Marco Pinotti's going to win.
He’s been coming into form for it. Ireland, Missouri, good training since coming home from USA. You’ll see.
by Steno on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh! I would weep with joy if that ever happened.
From your fingers :-) to God’s ears, Steno.
by Ruthann on Oct 16, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wegman
he could be in the mix, I think. He had a 3rd and 6th at Lombardia in previous years, and was 11th in Mendrisio.
Not a favorite by any stretch of imagination, though.
VDS-wise I hope Cunego wins, but something tells me Kolobnev will take this. Saxo has a very deep squad with him, Fuglsang, and Kroon. They will be a handful, perhaps even more so than the Lotto boys.
Ô col Bayard, Ô Tourmalet, à côté du Galibier, vous êtes de la pale et vulgaire bibine !
by ton_oncle on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see our faith in Cadel is on the rise,
but could we slow down the voting for him? He doesn’t respond well to overt pressure and I would love to see him on the podium somewhere ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 16, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whoops I voted for Cadel, now I am feeling guilty!
by peterfish on Oct 17, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Gerro
Like to spread the joy … and keep the pressure off ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Oct 17, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to mention
PInotti’s great showing—duh—at the Worlds. Definitely an upward trajectory.
by Steno on Oct 16, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh no, Pippo has a fever and is doubtful...
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pozzato-doubtful-for-lombardia
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 16, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
doubtful for start =
certain not to win
ABRUZZIAM...uh oh
by Chris... on Oct 16, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great preview, Chris, thanks!
And Gavia’s at steephill was well done too.
Think I’ll be rising early tomorrow to try to find a stream. Looks like the makin’s of a great race!
by Spot of Bother on Oct 16, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted for Kolobnev,
though in my heart and my VDS wishes Cunego wins.
Great write ups – as usual – Chris and Gav! ….So what time do I need to get up in the morning?
by Veloki on Oct 16, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gesink is no Kuiper........
Indeed, he will become much better than that, HA! (probably already is in pure physical talent)
For a guy who lacks a sprint, how can he beat Fugslang (who according to the writer, has a sprint)?
Ok ok, against Cunego and Gilbert he is probably nowhere, but against guys of his own league, he has a pretty good kick =)
by Ruben_ on Oct 16, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hennie Kuiper was pretty awesome
Olympic & World Champion, 2x Alpe d’Huez, 2x 2nd + 1x 4th Tour de France, winner of 4 monuments: MSR, RVV, P-R, GdL.
by tedvdw on Oct 16, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Kuiper was awesome, but Gesink will beat that =)
by Ruben_ on Oct 16, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not merely awesome,
Hennie was the “Greatest Cyclist Not Named Eddie.” Where’s TC?
by M. Anatole on Oct 16, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone expects Gilbert or Cunego to win so that means ...
they can’t win. Let’s see … Cadel is one over his yearly quota so how about Sammy Sanchez followed by Chris Horner as the dark horse.
I waited a half an hour to give my two toddlers breakfast until I had my Eneco tour coverage sorted, then made sure I got them fed before the sprint. --- Bought With Blood. ..... Hmmm, my kinda people. If only they could explain to my wife why my bike belongs in the house and not the garage. --- Thevaro
by thevaro on Oct 17, 2009 1:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pippo didn't start apprently
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Oct 17, 2009 5:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't believe Chris doesn't have a live thread scheduled to pop up.
But if it doesn’t appear soon, I’ll start one.
by majope on Oct 17, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just got home, checked in - no live thread?
I briefly wondered whether I’d got the date wrong, LOL
by Lou... on Oct 17, 2009 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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