Twitter Roundup
by Chris... on Nov 21, 2009 1:53 PM EST
in Cafe Happy Hour!
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Rather than simply quoting from a single First-Person Nugget of Wisdom, I thought I would add a few brief observations:
- On Twitter, not a day goes by when Bradley Wiggins doesn't transfer to Sky. But like a good wacky sitcom, the plot goes awry and the characters inevitably wind up back where they started... setting the stage for another day of madness.
- A new item for the PdC Lexicon, from our good friends at Rabo Sport: Smaakmaker. Can you use it in a sentence? I'll start: "Philippe Gilbert was de Smaakmaker in Lombardia this year."
- From the wires: Christian Pfannberger's pro cycling career has earned a death sentence. Tough times for Austrian cycling fans.
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Smaakmaker
Pesky Dutch brigade here. Your example sentence was gramatically correct. But thinking back to Lombardia this year I wouldn’t qualify Gilbert as the Smaakmaker. I’d say Hoogerland was a smaakmaker. He spiced up the race (that’s an English equivalent of Smaakmaker) with his breakaway before the finale. Sure, Gilbert was phenomenal in the finale but that part is always spicy. Smaakmakers don’t usually win the race. In common use it is something of a consolation prize. You didn’t win but you were the Smaakmaker. Gesink was definitely a smaakmaker in the Vuela.
It’s similar to the “most aggressive rider”. At least, that’s how I would use the term and how I interpret it when I encounter is somewhere.
De FIETS en anders NIETS
by Lopex on Nov 21, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
who's the he you're referring to?
Are you frinking me?
De FIETS en anders NIETS
by Lopex on Nov 21, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
but you guys realize that the actual translation is only of marginal interest. The point is to create “Englutch” using Dutch words in accordance with what sounds cool in English.
That said, the actual Dutch word is almost as cool.
"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert
by Chris... on Nov 21, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Op de hoek!
What do you fear most?
1. coup d’etat
2. putsch
by Frinking on Nov 21, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But if anyone want to put Baby there
It’s safe to do so now.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Nov 21, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Our Pilgrim ancestors left Holland for the New World because they feared their children were becoming too Dutch.
PdC is in danger of doodsmaking all their hard work and sacrifice. Like, bedankt.
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Nov 21, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was Dutchlish, not Englutch.
It is supposed to be spoken how Tyler Farrar speaks it on Sporza?
"As you can imagine, there are better places to have your birthday party than in some village called Mushny Mush Mishme." --The Wisdom of Jens
by Josenka on Nov 21, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dutchlish sounds better.
But I agree with Chris. It isn’t about the real meaning ni Dutch. Its about us using it the way it sounds in English.
Smaakmaker: one who makes a smack down
by ZoeRochelle on Nov 21, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no Englutch is much better.
by LurkerMcLurkerson on Nov 22, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Colonialist!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 4:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Go easy there
… her brain is probably half melted. I know that mine is… (where’s that *&$@#&^ southerly?!)
by Lou... on Nov 22, 2009 4:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was worried that you'd just be a puddle on the floor...
Lurker’s fine … very resilient and she gets it … and she makes me laugh ;)
PS. Has the heat wave broken?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 4:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite
It’s 35 now . Still, earlier this afternoon, it was 45 here (43 in the shade, 33 inside my flat)… so I guess I shouldn’t complain.
by Lou... on Nov 22, 2009 4:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Air conditioning is a necessity I would think
if you’re in western Sydney, which I’m thinking you must be. It’s not very green, but having had years in one horse towns where you drank (a lot!) and then went home to do a face plant on the bed, I’m thinking that it’s the lesser of two evils. If i could only convince you that the coast is the answer ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 4:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
West-ish
Burwood.
Death before aircon! Never mind the ‘green’ thing… my concerns are more to do with unecessary load on the network – and more importantly, the impact on my power bill, LOL. I am seriously considering a swamp cooler, though… they’re pretty effective for only a couple of hundred watts ;-)
by Lou... on Nov 22, 2009 5:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, 'inner west'... hot as Hades
and what the hell is a swamp cooler?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 5:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An 'evaporative cooler'
It works by means of water and a fan. I know from experience that they are particularly effective on stinking hot days if you put hunks of ice in the water reservoir ;-)
by Lou... on Nov 22, 2009 5:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Moree, Narrabri, West Wyalong... need I say more and Japan..
Having experienced both I say forget the swampy. Aim up!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 5:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember the old Sydney definition of a westie
someone who lives west of you
by Drongo on Nov 22, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone was west of me ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding of 'westie'
involves flannos and modified Toranas (links included for the baffled). Hmm… I own and wear the former, and plan to one day own the latter (a 4-on-the-floor SLR5000 with a 2-pack paintjob and a fully worked V8… fully sick, maaaate… ahem…)
by Lou... on Nov 23, 2009 3:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Without a mullet you won't qualify...
‘See yez later’ is also mandatory. (English teacher snark).
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 23, 2009 3:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And of course 'westies' couldn't really swim...
I’m pretty certain Ian Thorpe put paid to that ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 23, 2009 3:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We almost feel sorry!
What do you fear most?
1. coup d’etat
2. putsch
by Frinking on Nov 22, 2009 4:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Fringlish is a better option
although I embrace ‘smaakmakers’ ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 4:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Briljant!
Is Fringlish.. Those Dutch words… Just a landscaping for the Dutch and the more language purists in Belgium… Well.. Briljant is also Dutch.. So the divide is vague…
What do you fear most?
1. coup d’etat
2. putsch
by Frinking on Nov 22, 2009 4:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But I use Fringlish now too. Brilljant is brilljant
Vague divides are good. Blurring the lines and hybridity are very postcolonial ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 4:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, briljant
one ‘l’
must be faithful to the mother tongue
by Drongo on Nov 22, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bugger. Briljant save...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
But if you’re going to use it. Why not in the correct way? It’s easier for the Dutch PdC’ers and the others have to learn how to use it anyway. And Smaakmaker (tastemaker) is indeed a great word. A worthy addition to the PdC lexicon.
De FIETS en anders NIETS
by Lopex on Nov 22, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think using it in the correct way is great...
I’m thinking that smaakmaker would be ‘the person who spices things up’, ie., adds flavour ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 3:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Smaakmaker
Sounds like a good title to have. I’ll open nominations for de Smaakmaker of the year. Twitter.
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
by Mark Frank on Nov 21, 2009 5:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
On Twitter, not a day goes by when Bradley Wiggins doesn’t transfer to Sky.
Nor does a day go by on the internet. Now it’s l’Equipe saying Wiggo is going to Sky. Sigh… when will it end?
by dansel on Nov 21, 2009 6:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"Kraak noch smaak"
Another Dutch expression, meaning bland, neither here nor there, literally: crunch nor taste. Naming pun: electronica band Kraak & Smaak. Fine music.
by tedvdw on Nov 21, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
very cool
I think I have a Kraak & Smaak disc…
"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert
by Chris... on Nov 21, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Years ago, had a dutch room-mate
Who was utterly bemused by enormous American cars (he and a friend bought an early 60s Lincoln to go driving around the US, in 85) and even more amazed by the American concept of cute . . . and it was in reference to :"cute: that I first heard that one . . .
by R Mc on Nov 21, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you’d say: (s)he is cute, and he’d say: meh, (s)he has crack nor smack, and then you would both continue your sesh?
by tedvdw on Nov 21, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that most of the world
…is bemused by enormous Amercian cars ;-).
Doesn’t mean that we don’t love ‘em, mind. Someone up the road from my parents’ house used to own a red Bel Air… and I used to get off the bus a stop early so that I could walk past it on the way home from school :-). Totally effin’ ridiculous car – but very, very cool.
by Lou... on Nov 21, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Woow.. That's some nice introduction for a cycling summary of the year..
What do you fear most?
1. coup d’etat
2. putsch
by Frinking on Nov 22, 2009 4:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
So
is that a broadcast event? Wonder if we can get it online??
"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert
by Chris... on Nov 22, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's on now
but not online. I suspect it might pop up here or there sometime in the near future.
by tedvdw on Nov 22, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sporza already put it up on its own website!
by tedvdw on Nov 22, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There goes my evening
I only get like 35% of the audio but thanks for this.
by Jens on Nov 22, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Next up,
“Wielerland” show rebroadcast http://is.gd/516yt (link to rtl.nl), was 30 minutes on tv including commercials. Got some feedback last week that people abroad (outside he Netherlands) are also able to view this online. It has an interview with Alberto Contador by Michael Boogerd, on Curaçao, in English! Also: more island pictures, part 2/3 of a report on Vacansoleil & Johnny Hoogerland in the Vuelta.
by tedvdw on Nov 22, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another cracking link - Ta
Any chance you can put up a link to the next show also? Please.
by andrewp on Nov 23, 2009 3:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet, because it hasn't aired yet
It’s a week long online archive, index is at http://rtlgemist.nl/ Search for “wielerland” in the light-grey box on the top left. The show airs on TV (“RTL7” channel) on Sundays around 16:30 local (CET=GMT+1), rerun the next Saturday around 16:00. The webpage doesn’t seem to work for me using Safari :( but it does w/ Firefox. Flash and/or Silverlight required.
by tedvdw on Nov 23, 2009 6:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hartelijk dank
(Google assures me)
Page bookmarked.
by andrewp on Nov 23, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Muchos thanx!
What do you fear most?
1. coup d’etat
2. putsch
by Frinking on Nov 22, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God I love
The new millenium…
"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert
by Chris... on Nov 22, 2009 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Many many thanks for the links
Worthy of their own fanshot imho
by andrewp on Nov 23, 2009 3:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'Twitter Treasures' could work on a weekly basis don't you think?
After all, the gems laid out on Twitter are so precious ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 4:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
Tweets only stay in the brain for like 20 minutes, tops.
"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert
by Chris... on Nov 22, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joke?
I’m one of the people who hasn’t signed on for Twitter;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Run! Save yourself!!
It’s too late for me and Gav and Sui and Zoerochelle and Nikki and….
"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert
by Chris... on Nov 22, 2009 8:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually smugly confident that in spite of an addictive personality Twitter won't catch me
I like lots of words ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Twitter is lots of words
just not at the same time.
by gavia on Nov 22, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still like pages ... of paper
Anyway, no need to get on to Twitter, you guys bring it to us.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Nov 22, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I use twitter
And still read the NY Times in print… no need to exclude either ;-)
by dansel on Nov 22, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mmm, newspaper
I read the print NYT also. So heart that thingy.
by gavia on Nov 23, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially the crosswords
even though they kick my a$$ almost every time.
by dansel on Nov 23, 2009 8:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
well, the monday crossword is okay, but after that? forget it ;-)
by gavia on Nov 23, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll second that
Sometimes Tuesday is doable too. Well, like 90% doable… That counts, right?
by dansel on Nov 23, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty much
no way i could remember them for a whole week. daily is good. and sometimes there’s nothing funny. but that’s like almost never.
my fave today was vos reading monty’s post about guderzo’s new team. yay!
by gavia on Nov 22, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Vos reads the Cafe? Quality girl.
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 23, 2009 4:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ted sent her the linky
for Monty’s story, and she commented on twitter that she’d read it. She seems to read lots about the womens scene and the women she races against. Smart, that ;-)
by gavia on Nov 23, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
despite my hopelessness at Dutch (I'm seriously thinking I should make an effort)
I like her a lot on twitter
by civetta on Nov 23, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My Dutch is haphazard
but I really enjoy her interviews and Twitterchat. She’s a very engaging personality.
by gavia on Nov 23, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watching Hamme Zogge...?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 22, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That will be a no then!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 22, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, too late!
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 23, 2009 4:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
Should’ve known to come to the Cafe for discussion! Shame, shame on me…
by dansel on Nov 23, 2009 8:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Next time ;)
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 23, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
One can never have too much cross discussion.
by dansel on Nov 23, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh dear
The Church of the Drewd is growing. The End is nigh.
by Jens on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jens, why do you hate mud?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 23, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cross gives us something to actually talk about
Rather than dream of April for all five months of winter.
Plus, it has mud. Think the best pictures of Paris-Roubaix and multiply the mud times ten. Yeah, now we’re talking.
by dansel on Nov 23, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 23, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What a weekend for Stybar eh?
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 23, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's getting his power on
I thought he looked under pressure on the last lap Sunday but he really surprised me in the end. Sven looked overall strongest I think.
by dansel on Nov 23, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I was convinced Sven had it
"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.
by Albertina on Nov 23, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering if he wasted too much energy on the last lap
He was trying hard to ditch everyone and didn’t have his usual kick at the line. Looking back at the sprint he doesn’t look as powerful there as usual, but during the entire lap he was not afraid to attack. Sven seems to think he didn’t recover enough for the sprint either.
I like Stybar too, he’s a good youngun.
by dansel on Nov 23, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're all calling it Hamme-Zogge
rather than using the official title http://www.cocksbollekescross.be/index.php
by Monty. on Nov 24, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't mean anything
just a last name.
by tedvdw on Nov 24, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dood!
Dit is een drama, the smaakmaker just doodsmacked!
De FIETS en anders NIETS
by Lopex on Nov 22, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's doodsmak
(couldn’t resist the urge to correct the dutchman on the dutch spelling, I don’t have that level of control over my inner besserwisser) :-)
by Jens on Nov 22, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thougth doodsmacked was the PdC aproved spelling...
So confusing…
De FIETS en anders NIETS
by Lopex on Nov 22, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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