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The Wednesday Session GaviaWelcome to this week's edition of the Wednesday Session, which sometimes publishes on Wednesday, but not all that often.

This week, it's a compendium of curiosities and cycling oddities including a strange tale of Italians bringing bike racing to America. Will there be Pinarellos? Here at the Sesh, we know how to ask the important questions. But please, do come on in and stay a while. I promise, this won't hurt a bit.

We begin today in Italy, where something must surely be in the water. Or, maybe it was the grappa. According to an interview run in Wednesday’s Gazzetta dello Sport, the Giro d’Italia wants to come to America, and in particular, to Washington D.C. Oh Zomes, is this the best you can do? A helmet troll has more subtlety. Zomegnan explained that the Giro has long wanted to do a start in American and claimed that he has talked to the mayor of Washington D.C. and Mr. Mayor is enthusiastic about the possibility. When not mayoring, the mayor of Washington D.C. is a triathlete, which pretty much explains everything right there.

Star-divide

Okay, I’ll bite. What if Zomes is serious about this Washington D.C. plan? First off, I can’t think of a less Italian city than Washington D.C. Omaha, maybe. And we’re talking easily seven hours in a plane and a hefty six hour time difference. That sounds fun. Pity the poor ink-stained wretches who have to interview a bunch of jet-lagged bike racers and fight their circadian rhythms to file their stories on time. Not that I would know anything about that, the on-time part I mean. And pity the bike racers, who have to fly back to Italy after this American holiday and race the real Giro. You know, the one with ginormous mountains and such. Twitter would certainly crash under the flood of complaints about late-night meals, missed massages, and sleepless nights. Does anyone really want to listen to that? Zomes, please, spare us this suffering. If the bike racers don’t pull at your heart strings, how about the mechs and staffers, who somehow have to keep the bikes wrenched, the kits cleaned, and the musette bags filled? They so do not deserve a trans-atlantic grand tour.

Still, I’m sticking with my original view that Zomes is headline-whoring. He knows that he has to compete with the Armstrong-headlined Tour of California for the attention of the American tifosi. Really, he under-estimates us. We are perfectly capable of watching two races at once. Sponsors, take note. Of course, Zomes did achieve a measure of success with his little gambit. He commandeered the headlines in two of the most important English-language cycling news sites, including the Journal of Competitive Cycling. Footnotes also sold separately. More importantly, he made the Sesh, a goal many strive for, but few achieve.

A nasty virus is sweeping the peloton, a virus that turns every rider into a Tour de France hopeful. Samuel Sánchez is the latest victim. Second place behind Alejandro Valverde at this year’s Vuelta a España, Sánchez told El País this week that his season will be "the Tour and nothing but the Tour." The Olympic road race champion hopes to reach the podium in Paris and pick off a stage win along the way. A boy can hope, anyway. Fränk Schleck has also caught the Tour bug and is hoping to finish on the podium. I’m not quite sure what he intends to do with his brother Andy Schleck, who actually has finished on the Tour podium. Arsenic in the water bottles, maybe. This Tour podium, it begins to look a bit crowded. Little wonder Zomes felt the need to troll up a few headlines.

In other Schleck-related news, the women of Luxembourg have gone into deep mourning today after Fränk Schleck asked his girlfriend Martine to marry him. Apparently, she said yes. Fränk picked a poolside venue in Caracao for the occasion and managed to avoid falling in, a good omen if ever there was one. The dolphins were not available for comment.

Philippe Gilbert, so not a joiner. The Belgian, who raced 97 days this season for a total of 15,987 kilometers, confided to Sporza this week that he would very likely skip the Tour next season, as it offers him too few opportunities. He also dismissed the Giro as too difficult. Instead, Gilbert will devote his season to winning as many classics as possible and to chasing the Rainbow Jersey in Melbourne at next year’s World Championship road race. The OmegaPharma-Lotto rider will take the start of the Vuelta a España, but only as prep for the Worlds. Gilbert explained that the departure of Cadel Evans from the team increased the pressure on him to achieve results, and he intends to put all his focus on the one day races where he has the best chance of success.

The UCI tells us today that Alberto Fernandez de la Puebla Ramos has tested positive in an out-of-competition test. The offending substance was EPO and the test resulted from abnormalities in Alberto’s bio-passport. You didn’t think I was actually going to type that name more than once, did you? Anyway, the Fuji-Servetto rider is provisionally suspended pending b-sample and whatnot. Over at TAS, meanwhile, the Court held an eight hour hearing on the case of Stefan Schumacher, currently suspended for a positive CERA test. The TAS decision is due in mid-December. Doping, bah.

In more news about Names of Unusual Length, Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni Androni Giocattoli is changing its name next season. I really can’t imagine why. The team will race as Androni Giocattoli, which might actually fit on the front of their jerseys.

Andalucia-Cajasur has picked up José Angel Gómez Marchante, who passed an anonymous season at Cervélo TestTeam. The Spanish team also hired Manuel Vázquez from Contentpolis-Ampo. Andalucia-Cajasur rode pretty much every breakaway at this year’s Vuelta a España and are hoping that the addition of Gómez Marchante will boost their chances of a big result at the home tour. Of course, the team also dreams of a wildcard invite to the Tour de France. But so does everyone else on the planet. In other transfer news, Footon-Servetto has signed 26 year old Danish rider Martin Pedersen. Pedersen last year won the Rond um Köln and is a past winner of the U23 Liège-Bastogne-Liège. Footon-Servetto has also signed neo-pro Fabio Fellini, who at 19 years old is the youngest rider on a pro tour team.

BMC Racing should have no difficulty with the wildcard invites. The team announced this week that they team will begin their season at the Tour Down Under. World Champion Cadel Evans will attend the festivities. The team does not have a pro tour license and will need wild cards to start the big races. I doubt anyone is losing sleep over this, as the Rainbow Shirt does have a tendency to open the gates. Evans’ former team, meanwhile, was taken completely by surprise by his transfer. In a moment of snark, OmegaPharma guy Marc Coucke said of Evans, "when he came to us, he was Mr. Nobody." And how are those grapes tasting, hmm?

Lampre-Vini Farnese now considers Damiano Cunego a rider for the one-day classics. Nice to see that they’ve finally caught up with the rest of us. Saronni explained in an interview with Tuttosport that the team expects his results next season to come from the one-day races. The 2004 Giro is in the past: "In relation to the Cunego of 2004, who won the Giro d’Italia, there is nothing more to be said." Despite a season that proved less successful than he’d hoped, Cunego still accounted for five of Lampre’s 15 victories, never mind that Columbia-HTC wins that many races in a week. Saronni is psyching over the transfer of Alessandro Petacchi and confided that he has wanted to hire the sprinter since 2004. Petacchi is in with a chance at the next two editions of the World Championship road race, Saronni believes, because they look to favor the sprinters. Saronni also has hopes for Francesco Gavazzi, who has picked off a few results in the sprints over the last year. The team will be "very different from the past," but the team management hopes the riders will be "more competitive." Translation: Dear Race Win Fairy, Please bring us some victories. Anything will do. Love, Lampre.

Last, but not least, Team Sky will make yet another annoucement concerning their team roster for next week. I've lost count as to just how many of these announcements it has taken to fill out the roster. The announcement is scheduled for tomorrow. Bradley Wiggins? Your guess is as good as mine. I'm just the writer chick.

And that, my friends, is that. Come back for more next week. One day, the Session will appear.

Until then!
~Gav

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Oh you're the best, Gav!

I’ll forgive you for the Friday Wednesday-Sesh, because this particular Friday happens to be a day off for me, and you have timed it to coincide with my morning coffee. Very thoughtful of you ;-). Now ’scuse me, I have some reading to do…

by Lou... on Nov 5, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like WTF Session

For Wednesday Thursday Friday of course.

PS to Gav. dont midn the jokes, i love the sesh.

Your bike doesn't want to crash so relax and let it roll!!!

by perezbike on Nov 5, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I’m saving that one, for when it goes up really late some Friday night. Or, when things are really just wtf.

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But Gav...

…. you know that if it goes up really late on a Friday (your time), it will have to be called the ‘WTFS’ Session…

by Lou... on Nov 5, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Which would then make no sense at all

Accuracy is totally over-rated.

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

B'sides

I started writing it on Wednesday, I just didn’t finish it.

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am afraid

of the content-polis.

Sammy Sanchez is fracking insane. If we made his VDS price 10 points, would anyone buy?

"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert

by Chris... on Nov 5, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

SamSan will backtrack

when the Vuelta announces it’s 42km downhill TT in the Pyrenées.

by Jens on Nov 5, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pyrenees?

He only wins in Avila.

"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert

by Chris... on Nov 5, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fear not the Content Polis

whatever the heck that thing is. Maybe Vee can draw us a picture.

Oh Sammy, you seemed like you had a brain.

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sammy? Brain?

Wasn’t this the guy who said his ideal race was some sort of death-defying downhill plunge?

"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert

by Chris... on Nov 5, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there is that.

The Vuelta seemed like a reasonable objective. But the Tour? And nothing else?

Bah!

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Boom and Voigt also said they wanted to ride the tour.

What do you fear most?
1. coup d’etat
2. putsch

by Frinking on Nov 5, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jens! to the Tour?

Imagine our surprise…

by Lou... on Nov 5, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't Sam-San

Already focus on the tour once. I don’t feel it worked out well for him. Second in the Vuelta does not make you a Tour winner. A great sesh as usual Gav.

Thank you for returning to my life cross season!

by australopithecine on Nov 5, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sánchez

Well, clearly the Tour-only focus worked out well for him last time, since none of us can remember it.

Oopsy.

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I dunno

if the Tour would futz around for two weeks, then hold a series of short-ish climbing and time trialing stages around Avila, he could podium.

"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert

by Chris... on Nov 5, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

And it would be so boring, none of us would remember it. I begin to see a trend here. Really, it’s too bad, because I so enjoy Sánchez as a one-day rider. So fun. This waiting around all season for the Tour, meh.

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially when you lose to the guy who tried fruitlessly to win le Tour.

My Prediction: Bubble Boy takes on Contador next year after Wiggins goes to Sky. Perhaps I shouldn’t be so mean, perhaps it’s Tour fever (way too early).

by dansel on Nov 5, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought this has been renamed...

any day is good for me Gav :)
oh, and it’s Friday.
ha

by rbjhan on Nov 5, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So the weekend never comes?! Aaaargh!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 5, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bahrrrrrrghhhhhhh!! Meeeeeehhhhrg!

Your bike doesn't want to crash so relax and let it roll!!!

by perezbike on Nov 5, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i love the sesh on friday

and i wish every wednesday could be a friday (except when on vacation of course)

by yeehoo on Nov 6, 2009 6:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm, vacations.....

is it December yet??

by rbjhan on Nov 6, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish...hot footing it to Berlin in December, where actually, it may be rather chilly

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me so need Dec to come

visa and ticket all sorted, I’m ready to go!

by rbjhan on Nov 6, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Where are you going?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ha

China….haven’t been in 3 years…..

by rbjhan on Nov 6, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Aaaah, nice! Have fun now won't you?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What's your weight allowance?!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ha, forget about that

I’ll ship things back.
talking about serious shopping here.

by rbjhan on Nov 8, 2009 3:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to Berlin with EasyCrash...oops, I mean EasyJet.

No serious shopping for me!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 8, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if I'm going to Berlin

shopping probably won’t be on my list either….

by rbjhan on Nov 8, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True...

I’m going to the opera twice and two concerts! can’t wait :-)

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing as almost everything in the shops nowadays is made in China

i’m puzzled to know what you can’t get in Australia beyond the Chinese equivalent of Heinz Baked Beans/Vegemite/Chocolate Sprinkles for bread.

by Monty. on Nov 8, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

err, Chinese books?

but that’s only part of it, ha.

you are right that most things we can get anywhere on the planet…but you can’t get it at the price in China!

by rbjhan on Nov 8, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as for food

yes, there’s another list of restaurants I plan to visit as well….

by rbjhan on Nov 8, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Chinese food but I'm not sure how authentic a lot of the stuff you get here is.

I’m totally addicted to sweet and sour!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 9, 2009 4:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

to be honest, probably not

I think I said this before, never heard of lemon chicken until I moved to Melbourne….

by rbjhan on Nov 9, 2009 7:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, suspected that sort of thing might be the case...

I’d love to try the proper stuff though!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 9, 2009 7:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey

plenty of good authentic Chinese restaurant in Melbourne…..

by rbjhan on Nov 9, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

l'ouch!

Bah Stockholm…or wherever it is you hail from!

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 9, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

you know, it’s COOOOOOLD up there…

"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert

by Chris... on Nov 6, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually, not that much

my parents live in 广州
if you know where that is…..

by rbjhan on Nov 8, 2009 3:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whose next to see themself as a Tour contender?

Wasn’t Devolder getting backed for a top ten placing two or so years back and then he quit on the first climb? Maybe he sees himself as the next Wiggins “hey look I lost weight and changed my training focus/specialty and now I hope to climb” type and fancies a podium position.

Who else fancies a go? The 2010 Tour looks to be Italy-free for what it’s worth…

by Nomer on Nov 5, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Gasparotto obviously

“Io sono un contender”

by Jens on Nov 5, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Devolder

did play the Tour contender. At least Gilbert is wise enough to steer well clear of all that foolishness.

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard Kenny VH

is loosing weight to do well in the mountains.

Your bike doesn't want to crash so relax and let it roll!!!

by perezbike on Nov 5, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That should be interesting

He said in a recent interview he wants to have a serious go at Amstel Gold Race and Liège-Bastogne-Liège.

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dur.

I totally was. I had him on the brain, because I meant to include him in the Sesh and then forgot. Totally not the same rider as Kenny Van Hummel. D’oh!

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

by the way

It was another joke. Since everybody seems to be aiming for the tour. and yeah i like samuel a lot….big waste of a good rider just focusing on something he cannot win.

Your bike doesn't want to crash so relax and let it roll!!!

by perezbike on Nov 5, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, yeah

I missed the joke because I mixed up the riders. It’s funny now ;-)

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would think it would

Assuming they use the magic phrase – “harm the image of our race”

Doing the math – ack! – that would open a slot and maybe raise the hopes of Sky or Skil, who if I’m remembering right we placed on the bubble.

by gavia on Nov 5, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they have been signing a lot of no-names. should hopefully clean them up, but won’t help with invites or keeping a PT license…look at cofidis and bouygues…

by rowyco on Nov 5, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A new PT license is not in the making when theirs is up.

They’ve been in virtual free-fall for quite some time. Especially with Cobo and De la Fuente gone.

Anyone else think Footen-Servetto is making the UCI kick itself for how it devised the PT with long licenses?

by dansel on Nov 5, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's how they've survived this far

their sponsors must be paying virtually nothing for the privilege. And whatever did happen to the meat company they got on board last year? I can’t even remember their name. That’s effective marketing, I guess.

by Monty. on Nov 6, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

American Beef?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Which

was actually a Mexican company, wasn’t it?

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe so, hmm

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Totally nailed me on that one ;-)

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Manuel Cardoso (ex-Liberty)

our best sprinter and actually our national champion will join Xacobeo Galicia next year. Maybe we will see him in Giro or Vuelta.

by semprenaroda on Nov 5, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OmegaPharma might be cutting its early season racing down by not doing

some of the January/February races such as Down Under and Etoille since Christophe Brandt and Olivier Kaisen racked up over 100 days (102 and 103) and 16,000 racing kilometers each while Gilbert came in a close 3rd with 97.

Also for the Brits, Footon-Servetto signed 22 year old Tom Faiers. He did not follow the British cycling track instead he raced in Spain for the last few years. His story is that when he first started riding in Spain, he was out on a ride with some amateurs and pros and they met up with LuLu Sanchez and Valverde and when they went into the hills, he was the only one that could follow and they told him to start racing.

by Vlaanderen90 on Nov 5, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tour Down Under is PT, so they are required to be there

Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy

by Phil H. on Nov 5, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Down Under is a boring race like the Eneco Tour

there I said it, what you it’s already Friday here people going to say about that?! :)

Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy

by Phil H. on Nov 6, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We say we feel same way about ToC so say away

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So far, I completely agree

a mountain top finish next year will hopefully bring more excitement. Of course, it’s not the Tour down Under’s fault that Australia is flat as a pancake.

Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy

by Phil H. on Nov 6, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree. It's patronising and elitist.

We may be small and it may be a boring race but it’s pro tour so it’s part of the deal.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its boring and elitist

Because the UCI made this agreement over the Pro Tour teams’ heads. It’s not like most of the teams want to be there.

by ursula on Nov 6, 2009 8:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad. Maybe they'll learn something.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Nov 6, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How so?

Can we have a conversation here without getting defensive?

No one here has a problem with Australia. It’s just that the TDU distorts the cycling calendar and cyclists’ bodies just can’t add another couple of months onto their season. We all know this.

I can see why the UCI made it a PT event cause otherwise hardly any elite team would send anybody to the race. That doesn’t make it any easier for the PT teams though.

The TDU is also not analogous to the ToC either as the ToC has not been and won’t be this year a PT event. It only attracts 8 PT teams and most of them have a stake of some sort in the race. Plus the February editions of the ToC ran at the same time as other European pre-season events.

by ursula on Nov 6, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, it shouldn't be ProTour

I just want it to be in the VDS.

(Everyone knows the season proper only starts with Gent-Gent.)

by Drongo on Nov 6, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we all want different races in vds, I'm going for Coppi Bartali, Trentino and Burgos

however, for people who’s running it, adding such an early race like TDU can be problematic.
it’s not practical and not necessary IMO.

by rbjhan on Nov 6, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with Drongo

I agree I shouldn’t be defensive, but sometimes it’s a little overwhelming. Anywaay, it’s up to others not me to decide. in the meantime, my excuse is a flood (literally).
ToC is analogous in other ways, which i should explain, but please excuse til tomorrow. I have work a flood to deal with soon.

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Nov 6, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I may have missed it above...

…but as a practical matter, TDU in VDS doesn’t work b/c there’s virtually no time between the final stabilization of 2010 rosters and the start of the competition if it’s included.

TDU is actually very important for VDS, as is Quatar, and as was ToC as they are the three races where we get a look at the ‘new’ teams to see how they’re gelling and who seems to be coming along in comparison to the year before.

My for example here is that a lot of us likely picked GHH on the strength of his performance in those early races, and I simply have no idea how we’d have a chance of spotting riders breaking through in that way without some races that were run before the competition as such started.

by Ed K on Nov 6, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh...

TDU is actually very important for VDS, as is Quatar, and as was TOC, as they are…

(more comprehensible with that last comma)

by Ed K on Nov 6, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and

dropping Greipel because he’s injured goods

DOH!

"It looks like talking, but it’s just words that comes out"
~ Andy Schleck

by Hons on Nov 6, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I bit for you.

I was just evacuated through a flood. I’m feeling very feisty ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Nov 6, 2009 4:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oooh, bugger.

Just from work, I hope? All is OK at home?

Which river, BTW? (I did not watch the news this evening :-( …)

by Lou... on Nov 6, 2009 5:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coffs. Really sudden and scary and no river, just badly designed roads

The water lapping near my windows (car) was a tad disconcerting ;)

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Nov 6, 2009 5:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fresh water! it kills us :(

"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'

by Seahorse on Nov 6, 2009 6:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom Faiers

He was a triathlete, apparently, & didn’t really ride at all until he was 18. Pez interview with him here. Interestingly, he saya he rang Rod Ellingworth (British Cyclinf Academy coach/Team Sky) in the spring, who didn’t seem to have much awareness of the races he was riding in in Spain (the Brits are based in Italy, of course). Or maybe he was just being polite, who knows.

by civetta on Nov 6, 2009 4:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wonderful job again, Gav

I agree about Sammy Sanchez. He’s very talented, but he can’t really expect a stage win and a podium spot… Only way he gets a stage win is if he’s definitely off podium. Otherwise, ’Bert outclimbs him any day and takes the stage himself (or first behind the break). With Andy beating Sammy more than not as well.

Sammy, listen to me… You can win the Vuelta. That’s better than 5th in the tour…

by dansel on Nov 5, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wiggins to Sky? [roll eyes]

Team Sky announcement delayed according to Richard Moore in The Guardian. They are starting to look daft, in my view, but I’m sure what i think really bothers them.

Possibly of more interest in the article though is the stuff about James (son of Rupert) Murdoch who’s the boss of Sky taking an interest:

Murdoch’s interest owes to his new found enthusiasm for cycling, which has seen him visit, and ride on, the Manchester Velodrome, where the British team is based. In July he completed the 106km Maratona dles Dolomites, one of the toughest mass participation rides in Italy. The son of News International chairman Rupert completed the distance in a little over seven hours

by civetta on Nov 6, 2009 5:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lots of people are saying today that they've heard rumours about big Sky signings but nobody will tell.....grrr

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, possibly so...I'd heard about Cioni on the grapevine but got the impression there was more in the offing.

Who knows really? It’s all getting a bit tedious.

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very tedious

I think Cycling Weekly had a twit earlier that there weren’t any more announcements due.

Team Sky Bah!

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In further, not very surprising, news

CAS has put off considering the case of Valv.Piti, which they were due to consider on the 16th. No new date has been set. A this rate he looks likely to stretch things out until the ban runs out, at which point I guess the only thing they can do is to tell him that they aren’t going to count all the races he won in that time.

by Monty. on Nov 6, 2009 8:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hah!

In which case the Giro would be sure to pass through France for 3km each year.

by dansel on Nov 6, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha +1

I would love that!

What do you fear most?
1. coup d’etat
2. putsch

by Frinking on Nov 6, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

meh

I grow weary of this Valverde.

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Justice moveth like a stoned snail

They should just cancel the entire fucking inquiry and be done with it.

by Jimbo... on Nov 6, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ja

By now, it strikes me as a rather pointless endeavor, in truth.

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, they fundamentally blew it here...

…time sensitive issues in justice need to be handled in a timely fashion, otherwise the possibility of just resolution vanishes.

This speaks awfully badly of CAS.

by Ed K on Nov 6, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and they also managed

to suspend the chelsea transfer ban. different issue entirely, but they should look at this ‘allowing things to carry on as normal while the wheels of justice are(nt) turning’ way of doing stuff

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by benrazor on Nov 6, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And in some really peculiar news from the women's peloton

It looks like the corruption inquiry that the French are carrying out into how Jacques Chirac managed to blow so much cash on expenses while he was mayor of Paris (I’m sure that I remember reading that he was claiming that his wife spent about one and a half million Francs a month on groceries – that’s around 150,000 in pounds, dollars or Euro) may draw in the indestructuble Jeannie Longo, whose “assistant” appears to be one of the fictitious employees created at City Hall, and Pierre Boué, director of La Grande Boucle Feminin, who somehow “lost” 96,000 while employed as “chargé de mission de la ville de Paris”, a very official sounding job title. This may explain why the Grande Boucle does not so far appear on the UCI calendar for next year.

And tomorrow (well, Saturday, which may be yesterday in Australia) is Ms Longo’s 51st birthday.

by Monty. on Nov 6, 2009 8:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Poor Jeannie

Of course, your career is bound to cross a lot of paths if it goes on for five decades.

"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert

by Chris... on Nov 6, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

THanks for getting me up-to-date

If Giro starts in Washington, why don’t they just keep heading West, 1st Hawaii, then do a Japan stage, maybe UAE stage and then NEVER, ever leave Italy again.

Do they have olive trees in Fairfax?

Moo

by Willj on Nov 6, 2009 12:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If that's what it takes to get it out of their system...

But I think we just need a new race director. One who’s ridden a bike before.

by dansel on Nov 6, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No

They have Olive Gardens.

"Harder! Better! Faster! Stronger!" Philippe Gilbert

by Chris... on Nov 6, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lack of interest, honestly

I wasn’t motivated to sort through the sordid details on that one.

Feel free to do it for me, if you like ;-)

by gavia on Nov 6, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus, someone might feel tempted to post that photograph again....

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 6, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

definitely for the best

he’ll end up at footon for sure

"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09

by benrazor on Nov 6, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is a PT license past it's "best by" date the best he can get?

I’m afraid so. Coming clean >> being a shadester. (see Basso, Millar, etc for examples)

by dansel on Nov 6, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The big story today, now Saturday, is that Radio Shack will not go to the Giro...

they apparently are only going to do 2 GT’s and they are leaning towards the Vuelta instead of il Giro. Though this is only speculation because the quotes on tuttobiciweb and feltet came from Popovych who reported it to Ukranian media. It does make sense though since Levi convinced Lance that il Giro is not fun and that he wanted a party at Olive Garden if he wins the ToC.

Also Dario Cioni, formerly of ISD, signed with Sky. Should give some leadership to the youngsters.

by Vlaanderen90 on Nov 7, 2009 1:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

No. the ede-Sway with the ife-knay.

It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro

by majope on Nov 7, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dutch bird...?

Have I missed something?

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 9, 2009 4:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For shame Albertina


The Face of the 2010 Giro: Yolanthe van de Yadayada Somethingorother.
Very talented in the standing around looking pretty department. Not so much with the talking.

by Jens on Nov 9, 2009 5:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, right. I missed most of the Giro route thread

as I was out doing…er, I can’t remember. Girbecco (or one of his descendents) was there too though wasn’t he? I thought saw a man in that scary mask thing.

"If I were World Road Race Champion, I would wear black shorts. That probably has more to do with me being on the wiser side of 30 and understanding better that the decisions I make now never really go away. White shorts would not be something I'd be proud of...." - David Millar, in Rouleur.

by Albertina on Nov 9, 2009 6:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Party at Olive Garden, ha!

That was very well-played.

This no-Giro plan would not surprise me at all. Can’t say I care one way or the other, frankly.

by gavia on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From wikipedia:

“The ambiance of Olive Garden restaurants seeks to replicate an old-world Italian style, utilizing foliage in their décor, stucco walls, and background music consisting of Italian themes. Their cuisine, however, differs from authentic Italian cuisine in a number of respects.”

No doubt.

by LurkerMcLurkerson on Nov 10, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

That last line is quite amusing.

by gavia on Nov 10, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is this just them getting the Nhah Nhahs in first

before Zomegnan tells us that he didn’t want them anyway.

by Monty. on Nov 8, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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