The Wednesday Session
So at last the Bradley Wiggins to Team Sky transfer is a done deal. Now, we can all get on with our lives. Plainly, the separation between Garmin-Transitions and Wiggins was not especially amicable, and Vaughters told the press he conceded the day to avoid a lengthy legal battle over whether British labour law made it possible for Wiggins to break his contract at will. Joe Lindsey at the Boulder Report has a good explanation of the whole fandango. My fave quote from Vaughters: "The legal resources Sky has at its disposal are quite large." Understatement much? Lindsey also had a candid chat with David Millar, who called the whole thing "unfortunate." I would rate the polemica possibility somewhere in the neighborhood of Gilberto "he’s an extraterrestrial" Simoni and Ivan Basso at Sesterière, but maybe a few bastardos! short of Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador during the Tour de France.
Vaughters, meanwhile, told Shane Stokes at Cyclingnews that he hopes to work with the UCI to hammer out a more formal transfer procedure for cycling that would prevent a repeat of the pressure tactics used by Team Sky against Garmin-Transitions. One thing seems clear: Astana must have offered Alberto Contador a very very very large bag of euros, if Wiggins so easily slipped the leash to Team Sky.
At last the Zombie story has died, the wood stake of an on-the-record press conference stuck through its heart. Or, maybe that’s vampires that one slays with the wood stake. How do you kill a Zombie anyway? Clearly, I need to research these stories more carefully. Either way, fade to black, roll credits. All this legal talk is making me very sleepy.
Sex is always more interesting than lawyers. And where better to look for it than Playboy magazine? Filippo Pozzato did an interview - right, because we only read it for the articles - with the mag for this month’s edition. He also dressed up for some photos, which is a little odd, because my understanding, limited though it may be, was that one undressed for Playboy magazine. He also brought a bike, though what he is planning to do with a bike while wearing a tux, I shy away from imagining. Also, I thought there was supposed to be a bunny suit. Instead, all we got was a stupid white turtleneck. Really, this is quite disappointing, or even unfortunate. I will simply have to use my imagination. Oh the interview? "Cycling is my passion, my work, my love." Also, he likes the beautiful bikes. You don’t actually expect to read all of it, do you?
Alberto Contador apparently does not heart Italy. The Spanish Tour champion will not race the Giro d’Italia, or indeed, any Italian races next season. According to an interview in the Spanish paper Marca, Contador will begin his season in February with the Portuguese Volta ao Algarve. Then, he’ll head to Paris-Nice with ambitions to win, and follow the early season French race with two Spanish stage races, Volta a Catalunya and Vuelta a País Vasco. After the Tour, he may or may not race the Vuelta a España. Eat your heart out Italia.
On the subject of Italia, the Giro start in Washington DC for 2012 has moved from the press statement stage to the photo op. stage. Zomes paid a trip to the United States, and posed for a photo with the Mayor of DC, Adrian Fenty. Zomes and his sidekick wore suit and tie. Fenty wore a replica Maglia Rosa with Mayor stenciled across the chest. Tacky, maybe a little. But the resident arbiters of fashion will be happy to note that Fenty did wear black shorts. The threesome posed in front of the Capitol Dome. Or, maybe they photoshopped that part, who am I to judge? Me, I still consider this idea beyond stupid, with the sheer absurdity of a trans-atlantic transfer and a six hour time difference. But nobody asked me.
On the subject of stupid ideas, in the name of gender equity, the International Olympic suit people have eliminated three track events, including the Individual Pursuit, the Madison, and the Points Race. Now both genders will race five total events, including the individual sprint, team sprint, kierin, team pursuit, and the omnium. The Ominium scores each athlete in five separate events. And you thought stage racing was hard to explain to your non-cycling friends. I’m all for gender equity, but taking events away is a stupid way to achieve it. Stupid. Not to mention, the three events they, in their infinite wisdom, have removed are three of the most interesting of the track events. Who doesn’t like watching the Madison? Whether we can tell who’s winning is another question entirely, but I highly doubt that we’ll have much more luck with the Ommmmmnnneeeuuuummm. I think I’m feeling sleepy again.
Michele Farrari, the former spokesman for Orange Juice and consultant to the stars, has confirmed that he continues to work with "about a dozen" cyclists. He declined to name the riders on the grounds that he did not want to breach their privacy. Asked about his relationship with Lance Armstrong, Dr. Ferrari replied that they were just friends. Ferrari was convicted of breaking Italy’s doping laws, but he won his case on appeal. In his decision, the judge confirmed that the evidence was correct and Ferrari had broken the law, but upheld his appeal on the grounds that the statute of limitations had expired. All the same, Ferrari claims that he supports anti-doping efforts, talks about doping with his athletes only to warn them of the dangers, and thinks that no one can escape the controls. In other news, the moon is made of green cheese.
Ah, but I have left out so many stories. But I must go, my friends. There is a bottle of wine and it calls to me. Gav, you must come. You must stop writing now.
So I stop.
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Pozzato!
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 10, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey
Re the Giro and transfers, there is no correlation between something being a good idea and something being likely to happen. This is the race that had 17 transfers over 21 stages two years ago.
Also, I too would like to move past the zombie stories. However, Mendrisiobecco hasn’t been seen in a week or so…
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 10, 2009 10:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What was THAT?????
Did I just hear a distant burp-like noise from the east north-east?
by ursula on Dec 11, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am just wondering
what is the wine? Sorry I should comment about cycling, bike races and stuff….OH! The silly season.
Your bike doesn't want to crash so relax and let it roll!!!
by perezbike on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How do you kill a zombie?
Either a Victa lawnmower or a cricket bat.
It depends on which film you prefer.
by Drongo on Dec 11, 2009 2:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
For further information
see Peter Jackson’s film ‘Dead Again’ (known as ‘Dead Alive’ in the US) and Simon Pegg/Edgar Wright’s ‘Shaun of the Dead’.
by Drongo on Dec 11, 2009 2:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think nobody has mentioned so far that . . .
. . . . Garmin get’s a new Sponsor on Nov 29th.
The Wiggins deal happened officially on Dec. 10th
Hmmmmmm . . . .
I wonder if Transitions was all talked into to it because they had a potential TDF Podium guy(s) on the team and the Wiggins exit was simply planned behind closed doors to occur after the Transitions deal was completed.
by Ryan_Liles on Dec 11, 2009 3:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Possible
but the Transition people would have to be pretty naive not to calculate the risk of BW leaving considering all the press the story’s been getting, don’t you think?
by Jens on Dec 11, 2009 4:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And
I don’t think it matters all that much to the overall team. They still have a good team for next year.
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or perhaps the transition people came on with the understanding that all of the $$$$
Garmin got for Wiggins will pay for Contador to come to Garmin next year. Could go a few different ways.
by ZoeRochelle on Dec 11, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speculation is making my head hurt.
How many days til Het Niewsblad?
by dansel on Dec 11, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you know..
I doubt very much that Vaughters would have brought in a sponsor on the promise of Contador. That’s just far too much of a long-shot in my view. The bidding war for Contador next year is going to be ridiculously intense, and I don’t think Garmin is by any means going to be a front-runner in that contest.
I think Vaughters brought in Transitions to sponsor the team as it is. Honestly, I think there’s too much talk of Wiggins departure dropping the value of the team. Certainly, Vaughters would prefer to keep him as he was key in bringing big attention to the team this year. But Garmin has shown a knack over the past two years for invention. Their results are constantly coming from different directions with various riders stepping up, or their existing riders hitting on opportuniites to score. And Vaughters has persistently sold the team on its image – clean cycling, young riders, blah blah – rather than its results. I have a hard time imagining that he managed the courtship with Transitions any other way.
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All of the "speculation" can go in many directions. All we know is what we
actually know. Heh. That was the point I was attempting to make by giving a contradictory speculative post if that makes any sense.
by ZoeRochelle on Dec 11, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is dead right...
…and very very sensible.
by Ed K on Dec 11, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it's all about size...
of the war chest, then Contador to Sky; just deserts for Wiggans-the-Evil.
by ManBicycleThing on Dec 11, 2009 1:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
I guess ‘deserts’ would work too, but I meant ‘desserts’.
by ManBicycleThing on Dec 11, 2009 1:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
oddest ever ad on the podium cafe site
you can download a fart machine. No need to thank me for sharing.
by yeehoo on Dec 11, 2009 6:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
We (heart) our advertisers!
Even the freaks.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 11, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to have a Sesh with my morning coffee!
Many silly things out there this week, but the Giro starting in DC is probably the silliest. Still, how can jet lag not add to the excitement?
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 7:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they race it late at night too
The jet lag should be ok. :-)
It's a girl, and a boy!
by Lopex on Dec 11, 2009 7:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
6am
before traffic heats up.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 11, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
need to be done before 5am to be on the safe side
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 11, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
they could stop for naptime during the flat stages?
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is DC
if you substitute “martinis” for “naptime” then I think you’re on to something.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 11, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cyclo-cross
In an extra race on the calender at Fae di Oderzo and in the absence of Stybar and his Belgian friends Rabo’s Gerben de Knegt managed to get a victory behind his name again. He managed to tip a prolonged battle with good old Franzoi in his favor.
Too bad Frinking. Luckily Franzoi lives to (almost) win another day.
It's a girl, and a boy!
by Lopex on Dec 11, 2009 7:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I saw it.. Bummer!
His only chance on a victory.. BAh.. Ben BErden was third so the competition wasn’t eeh very tough
by Frinking on Dec 11, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Wiggins....
Everyone knew he was going to Sky anyway, but the fact that they also lost Allen Lim to RadioShack is pretty huge…that guy is super smart and innovative about getting the most out of riders…his ice vest, space boots, “”http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/paul_kimmage/article4322625.ece" target="new">thermal regulation" to help an epic solo breakaway (need not mention names) – he comes up with cool stuff that works and is legal.
Okay, maybe I’m the only one thinking this is big here…
by rowyco on Dec 11, 2009 8:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
which is why Garmin had him spending most of his time
making rice cakes . . .
or so the rumor goes.
by R Mc on Dec 11, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm bored.
Can you elaborate on this? I’d like to hear the rumors.
If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again?
by CannonDowell on Dec 11, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In other news
Schlecklet won for Luxembourg’s Male Athlete of the Year. Frank came in second, and Kim Kirchen…fifth. Ouch—that’s got to hurt. Who knew there were two other male athletes to vote for in Luxembourg?
It’s the seventh consecutive year a cyclist has won the award: 2003-2005 Kim Kirchen; 2006 Frank Schleck; 2007-2008 Kirchen again; 2009 Andy Schleck.
Story over at CN, but there’s some sort of glitch going on that won’t let me add the link.
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
What exactly has Kirchen done this year?
by Frinking on Dec 11, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he is national champ in the TT.
But I was more thinking that after 5 wins, it must be embarrassing to come in 5th behind two guys the rest of the world has never heard of. Yeah, that last is an assumption, but quick! Without Google’s help, name two male athletes from Luxembourg who could have beat him. Neither is a cyclist, by the way.
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rally rider, skier?
Yeah, I have no idea.
by tedvdw on Dec 11, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But.. Becuase he is famous doesn't mean he need to win over some anynomous guys..
But it depends on what the other riders did.. There is an other Luxembourger somewhere in my head.. Can name it though
by Frinking on Dec 11, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Frinking...
whether that was intentional or not, it’s a classic!
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh oh.. I liked to say it was intentionally.. But then I would lie.. To ooh whatever..
But who are 3 and 4?
by Frinking on Dec 11, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dirk Bockel and Raphaël Stacchiotti
Yeah, me neither.
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bockel won an Ironman. Dunno which one but he deserves to be there..
What Strachiatelli did no idea.. But How many “normal” people can recall Kirchen? ;)
by Frinking on Dec 12, 2009 7:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, he did win the national TT championship.
In Luxembourg, that might have counted for something. Hey, it was 100 VDS points here!
It’s a bit sad because we all really liked Wiggo, and I think he wasn’t quite as noble as he could have been in his departure--David Millar
by majope on Dec 12, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PS
Andy wore a suit. He’s obviously working on this fashion thing.
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly
is the athlete pictured on Andy’s award doing?
by Katiek on Dec 11, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My best guesses are dancing
or throwing a hissy fit.
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice-looking tie
The trophy is a little odd. But I do like his tie. Could he do that more often?
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Where did Marc Girardelli finish?
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 11, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Expect the entire population of Liechtenstein showing up
Going billdozer.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Dec 11, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or not
Since I was wrong. I blame the Friday.
Staring at the swim team gets you killed by a gang of dancing ninja men who know how to twirl.
by TheFigurehead on Dec 11, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
Poor Kirchen. He did have a bummer of a season this year too. Maybe next year will be better, it can’t really be worse.
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's interesting how different riders take injuries
Kirchen broke a collarbone and it seemed to knock him off it for the whole season. Meanwhile, Chris Horner broke umpteen different things and still came good. Of course, they had different roles, but some guys seem psychologically a lot more resilient than others.
by dansel on Dec 11, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or physically
It depends on the timing during the season of an injury, and some riders recover more quickly than others.
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cav
is up for British Sports Personality of the Year, although he’s got some tough competition. The winners are announced Sunday
by Katiek on Dec 11, 2009 11:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Too many cycling fans must have been watching X Factor finale
by Katiek on Dec 13, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
nice
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
by benrazor on Dec 13, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Giggs did have to decency to look mildly surprised, I guess.
by civetta on Dec 14, 2009 7:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cicloweb has an interview
with Luisa Tamanini which makes it sound that the Selle Italia team has folded mainly because of a rift between team president Walter Ricci Petitoni and DS Walter Zini, and that the team members spent half of last season as intermediaries in a “go tell him that…” situation.
by Monty. on Dec 11, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the Italian love (for men from a certain era, anyway) of the first name Walter
cracks me up every time
by civetta on Dec 14, 2009 7:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wine is a potent threat to the Sesh
Luckily Gav was able to get through the juciest bits of news first. Well done Gav!
First order of business: Pozzato. Really, a white turtleneck and a pretty bike? Come ON man, try harder. Also, why was he posing for playboy rather than the male equivalent? Hmm, something seems amiss. Surely there are females in Italia who would like to see that perm without a turtleneck. Ok, time to stop going down that path.
Second: IOC, WTF? How can you not love the hand-slinging action of the Madison. I am just learning the specifics of how the race actually works, but my brother and I have done Madison-style hand slings on training rides for years because we thought it was hella cool, regardless if we knew how the rules worked. Why would the IOC even think about excluding it? Bah, humbug. Omnium Schmonium, time to youtube Madison events.
by dansel on Dec 11, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The white turtlekneck
is a serious affront. Oh Playboy, why must you torture us so? I suppose the ’view ran in Playboy, cuz you know, dudes read it for the articles, so there has to be an article or two. Maybe?
Sad about the Madison. I do like that race :-(
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That a fun video. Thx for the link.
by ZoeRochelle on Dec 11, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+100
And you know, I have utmost respect for the announcers. The madison is so incredibly complicated, and for them to reel off exactly what a team needs to move up to 3rd place while following the action in front of them is impressive indeed.
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In other random stuff
Bert on a training ride with Team Astana – apparently not a fan of cold weather
by Katiek on Dec 11, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The bikes are amusing me.
Looks like Pereiro is already on a specialized, but Bert is still on his trek steed.
by dansel on Dec 11, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... this has been troubling me...
… I think that maybe I missed the bit where it was announced that Spesh are supplying bikes for the whole team…? I’m not sure how I managed to miss it, because I have been friggin’ watching for it like a bloody hawk…
by Lou... on Dec 12, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I guess that the plethora of dirty big red 'S's
on the new jersey is a subtle hint. Never mind me – I do catch on eventually…
by Lou... on Dec 12, 2009 3:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bert has got to be sooooooooooooooooo thrilled Lance and JB are gone
and all the Lancelots that went to the Shack, a full team behind him is refreshing.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
by Phil H. on Dec 11, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because they're clasping hands
I’m not convinced Vino is part of the “full team behind” Bert.
by Katiek on Dec 11, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
nicely understated there
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
by benrazor on Dec 11, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he isn't he will be after the first time they go up a mountain together
and Vino ends up getting to the top much later. But actually I believe Astana all but guaranteed Bert the team was behind him and not Vino with all the clauses they allowed Bert to put in their contract. Vino will get his chance to lead his team again in 2011, next year he will support a Tour winner,
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
by Phil H. on Dec 11, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling team Astana in 2011 will not exist...
by Bruce Suomi on Dec 12, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(sssshhhhh)
don’t tell Lou, Frinking and Seahorse that, just go along with 2011 is Vino’s year to shine.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
by Phil H. on Dec 12, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We know what you're thinking
but we choose to ignore you ;)
Lou: Surf is singing its siren song hence the up early..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Dec 12, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We have heard a lot of opinions about Astana
We’ve heard that the Accountant is leaving, we’ve heard that the licence won’t be renewed… and now we hear that the team will fold in a year (despite the Accountant’s disturbing talk about “in two years when the team…”… nevermind the fact the the bloody operation is bankrolled through an act of parliament, forheavenssake…)
Keep the ‘opinions’ coming… but remember that at some point I will cease being so restrained and I will start to gloat, LOL
by Lou... on Dec 12, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am curious to see what bikes they are going to ride this year...
by Vlaanderen90 on Dec 12, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow nvm that sounded stupid...
I know they are riding Specialized. duh.
by Vlaanderen90 on Dec 12, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All these Speculations are making me hungry

by tedvdw on Dec 11, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yum
i’m so hooked on these thingies now. they go sooo good with coffee. num num num.
by gavia on Dec 11, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ginger --- deadly to me...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 11, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those look like Mayan glyphs to me that prophecize the cycling future...
Wigglypuff Cav Crunch, Breakfast of Madison Champions!
by Josenka on Dec 12, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bah -Mayans
I see a windmill and a growing plant. They are obviously referring to the coming dutch hegemony that Chris has been prophecizing for years.
by Jens on Dec 12, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...what's massive and orange and believed in fervently by one person?
Tossup—it’s either the Coming Dutch Hegemony or the Great Pumpkin.
It’s a bit sad because we all really liked Wiggo, and I think he wasn’t quite as noble as he could have been in his departure--David Millar
by majope on Dec 12, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see Chris before me
waiting anxiously in the pumpkin patch. Only it appears it’s not a pumpkin patch but some sort of dutch café.
by Jens on Dec 12, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Giro USA
is looking highly highly likely. Zomeggy is saying “tres tres possible” in L’Equipe
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 11, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
that is a silly, silly idea with little regard for the riders
but I would SO be there if it came true.
by Katiek on Dec 11, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my sentiments exactly
As a cycling fan, this is the worst idea in the history of Grand Tours. As an American, this is a two hour flight to a Grand Tour! Woohoo!!!!
by PopUp Rolen on Dec 11, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Signore Zomegnan
I write on behalf of the Podium Cafe to condemn the decision to start the Giro in Washington, D.C. in 2012. While there are many attributes to such a plan, I fear that it would place far too great a stress on the riders to make an intercontinental transfer of this nature in the middle of the race. Moreover, I fear that riders would be more tempted to resort to doping to overcome the exhaustion.
On a related note, I would like to apply for 12 press passes for the Giro opening in Washington DC. We need three photographers, two videographers, two translators, five writers, and a car pass. We greatly look forward to the Giro 2012 in Washington, DC.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 11, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brilljiant!
And…er…those 12 press passes cover all the editors, right?
It was just a long race--Edvald Boasson Hagen, on the Giro
by majope on Dec 11, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DC is even closer to Portland and Indy than Boston.
by ursula on Dec 12, 2009 6:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boston, frankly, is cuter.
But yeah, DC. 3 major airports, very easy to get to. And with the Metro, very easy to get around once you get there.
It’s a bit sad because we all really liked Wiggo, and I think he wasn’t quite as noble as he could have been in his departure--David Millar
by majope on Dec 12, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you can't be serious. can you? i'll give you the airports, but the Metro? seriously?
that service that doesn’t get you anywhere? where you have to constantly change “lines”? oh, btw, if you suffer from any sinus problems you DON’T want to ride the orange or blue lines going into virginia… they go deep under that river….
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 13, 2009 6:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very serious!
Since I now live in a city that has virtually no public transportation, I look back on the Metro with great wistfulness. I found it extremely convenient—plus relatively clean and safe.
It’s a bit sad because we all really liked Wiggo, and I think he wasn’t quite as noble as he could have been in his departure--David Millar
by majope on Dec 13, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right there with you
Public trans. that actually goes somewhere is pretty much unheard of in Cali. I so hearted the DC metro. Esp. since I didn’t have a car for the year I lived there.
by gavia on Dec 13, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thankfully i didn't work in dc...
and if/when played tourist, parked at arlington, got a tourmobile ticket and it worked quite well.
okay, the red line was good to get to the zoo, as long as you got at the stop that went downhill to the zoo, not uphill….
unless if we just went in to see the cherry blossoms, then it was early am drive in and park in east lincoln park so the puppies could ponder falling into the water at the marina
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 14, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and what ever you do, don't visit dc between late april to late october... way too may tourists around
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 13, 2009 6:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How appalling! Tourists want to see Boston... the hide!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Dec 13, 2009 6:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how'd we get from dc to boston so quickly? they can visit boston. just stop cluttering up dc...
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 13, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha... can't read, can't think
The Goro will help heaps then…
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Dec 13, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be *Giro.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Dec 13, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can I be one of the videographers?
Or at least, can I be in charge of keeping Gavia’s box of crayons organized and at the ready? ;-)
by Veloki on Dec 11, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
13. 'cause it's a lucky number
AND because you’ll be needing a Lou ;-). Indispensable. Oh, and you’ll have to fly me over… but it will be worth it, mark my words…
by Lou... on Dec 12, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the Giro start in the US?
I don’t get the logic here, they’d need to stretch the race at least for 4 weeks? Everyone who have been travelling between US and Europe knows it takes days to get over the jet lag.
by Bruce Suomi on Dec 12, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
*Gasp* Bruce is thinking!
Bruce! Your brains cells are firing! Better look into that!
by ursula on Dec 12, 2009 7:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's doing better than Zomegan...
Whose brain cells must’ve gone on hibernation about two months ago.
by dansel on Dec 12, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There's no logic from the riders' POV.
The lure is dragging the eyes of the US onto a race too few people over here follow.
But I’m wondering if the jet lag isn’t surmountable If they fly boom! over and boom! back, the riders’ body clocks wouldn’t have time to reset to US time. The major trouble would be trying to schedule things so they don’t lose too much sleep. But you’d think with so much time on the road, a lot of the guys have picked up the knack of sleeping on planes and such. Throw in a rest day back in Italy to catch up on sleep, and jet lag might not be an issue.
It’s a bit sad because we all really liked Wiggo, and I think he wasn’t quite as noble as he could have been in his departure--David Millar
by majope on Dec 12, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All I know is
when we pack the kids off to New Jersey or Boston for the holidays, the time change results in much crying. You should expect Italian cyclists to behave any differently?
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 12, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course.
Crying makes their skin puffy. You think the likes of Benna and Pippo are going to risk that?
It’s a bit sad because we all really liked Wiggo, and I think he wasn’t quite as noble as he could have been in his departure--David Millar
by majope on Dec 12, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and what
will happen to Pippo’s hair? Or Pelizotti’s? With so much flying
"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."
--Dino Buzzati
by nrs5000 on Dec 13, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oooh, a real challenge for the hair boys.
The airplanes are going to be really dry—Pellizotti alone will generate enough static electricity to potentially take down the plane. Worse, their curls will collapse and they’ll need serious gel to tame the flyaways. Then they land in DC, notoriously built on a swamp and thus extremely humid. Poof goes the hair into a mass of frizz.
The transition between the two is going to be terrible—expect the Italians to be photographed in the airports wearing hats and headbands until they can get to the safety of the hotel for damage control.
It’s a bit sad because we all really liked Wiggo, and I think he wasn’t quite as noble as he could have been in his departure--David Millar
by majope on Dec 13, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, it ain't barely humid in may... now july and august....
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 13, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't tell me we are going to have a repeat
of the US cyclist in Beijing with facemasks – debacle?
by Jens on Dec 13, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking hair nets rather than face masks
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
by Seahorse on Dec 13, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
may is nice in dc....
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Dec 14, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am at
a complete lo$$
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris... on Dec 12, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I s€€ what you are implying th€r€
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
by Phil H. on Dec 12, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about you guys...
but the thought of the Giro taking place in my back yard has me thrilled!
Let them spend 4 days racing up Philly and New York, transfer, give them a rest day and boom, they’re fucking good to go!
They’re professional athletes- HTFU!!!
Racing for Victory and Free Beer!
by DemonCats on Dec 12, 2009 10:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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