The Wednesday Session
by Jen See on Dec 16, 2009 5:40 PM EST
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This isn't really a Sesh today, because I'm working on another thingy. I think you'll like it. Well, okay, I hope you like it. No telling yet what it is, because I might jinx myself and have it not come out at all. Writing is a ticklish business that way. While I wait for the espresso machine to heat up, a couple tidbits of news for your Wednesday. A Psuedo-Sesh. Which should not be confused with a pseudopod or a pseudonym.
Of course you know that the Vuelta a España released the official route at a gala in Seville. I haven't seen any photos. If only Team Liquigas were in charge of the Vuelta roll-out. To no one's surprise, the Vuelta is a climber's party with six mountain top finishes, a 16 kilometer team time trial, and a single individual time trial of 46 flat kilometers. For added giggles, the team time trial which opens the race in Seville will take place at night. You can't make this stuff up. The mountains should decide the general classification battle, and returning climbs include Xoret del Catí, a short, steep bit of nastiness, the Peña Carbarga, Andorra, a long, steady drag, which appeared in last year's Tour de France, and Lagos de Covadanga, a lengthy and frequently decisive climb to 1100 meters above sea level. The Vuelta also includes three brand-spanking new climbs, including one rumored to rival the dread Angliru in steepness. The climbers are smiling. Everyone else, not so much. No word yet on who will attend the late season Spanish party, as Alberto Contador, Alejandro Valverde, and Samuel Sánchez have all declared the Tour de France as their principal objectives for the season. Maybe they just don't like red. The Vuelta will introduce a Red leader's jersey for this year's edition. Snazzy.
In other grand tour news, Joe Lindsey reports that Team the Shack may not attend the 2010 Giro d'Italia. His source is a schedule of the team's races posted on Johann Bruyneel's Facebook page. An accidental omission or intentional decision? I don't pretend to know, though it would not surprise me at all to see the team focus all their efforts on the Tour de France with the Tour of California serving as a May training race. For more info., do head over and give the full Boulder Report a read. Little wonder Zomes is working so hard at this Washington DC absurdity. If the Americans do not come to Giro, Giro will come to America. Or something like that.
The espresso machine is nearly ready for action. I must go undertake the delicate and vital task of pulling the perfect espresso shot. But first, I think we need a dedicated effort to caption this photo (opens in new tab). Do you think if I'm really good, Santa would bring me rights to use Bettini photos? Because you so know I'd be decking the halls with those things right there. Front page, all the way. Hmm, maybe it's for the best that I have not been granted that temptation.
Back soon with some more writings. For now, enjoy your Wednesday. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves about bike racing, centaurs, how to paint a Barbie, Greek tragedy, cranksize, or any other topic that might cross your minds. I do like a wide-ranging discussion, don't you?
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I think the skedj on JB's facebook looks something like this
May: That race we only care about because of that little nugget on our team
July: Only race that matters in cycling
Other months: we will show up physically because we have to but won’t be doing much racing, the Tour is the only race that matter after all
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
The greatest Greek Tragedy...
… Yanni
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
love Yanni, we went to the same school
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Dec 16, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
'ken oath
I went to school with some deadset wankers. I have as much as love for them as I do for people who fart in lifts or who abuse puppies.
[use of slang retained especially for you, sminer]
don’t call Yanni a wanker, love that guy
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying he's a wanker...
…and I’m not saying he’s not. Nothing personal against the man. I am not aware of ever hearing one of his songs and wouldn’t know him if I met him, so I have no grounds for judgment (other than photos of his moustache).
Just agreeing with sminer’s view that going to school with someone doesn’t mean you have to love him.
In fairness to Pliny
He didn’t say he loved Yanni because they went to school together. He may love Yanni for his body of work, or for dating Wonder Woman. But I would have to agree that Yanni is a wanker, and not because of his music, but because of his arrest for beating up his girlfriend. Bet he never pulled that shit on Wonder Woman…
holy crap I never heard about that
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Dec 17, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
guess my joke about der Yanni is out the window now
I'm feverished, or the way you want to spell it
by plinytheelder on Dec 17, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I love British English
BTW, can you help me with “pants”? If something is pants, is that good or bad? Personally, I regard pants as an important societal advancement. But then I’m not Scottish.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
pants = bad
e.g. tom boonen was pants at this yours tour
by thebongolian on Dec 17, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Chris, it's not 'British English'
It’s ‘English’.
I speak Australian English, you speak American English; they speak English.
‘Pants’ is bad; pants are good. (So, the film ‘Jumper’ was pants. Haha!) I don’t pretend to understand that either, but then I don’t understand why Americans call a toilet a restroom, either. The world is full of mystery.
Toilet
sounds unpleasant, and we don’t want to be afraid of our restrooms. That said, it’s a fine word. For example, Red Sox fans happily referred to Yankee Stadium as “the toilet,” even if while they were there they might occasion to use the restroom.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with Drongo here
On reflection, ‘restroom’ is kind of bizarre… and I cannot fathom why you would want to give people further encouragement to spend a friggin’ aeon in there… (OK, I’ll spare you the rant about that)
Oh rant away!
We have a very large disabled ‘restroom’ on our little mezzanine floor at work. It’s like a sitting room in size. Every time I go to use it there’s someone in there. Every friggin’ time! And I wait, and I wait, and they’re still in there….I mean, what are they doing, writing War and Peace?! I think actually it may have something to do with the fact that our heating system is erratic but the loo is always toasty warm….
Oh man, don't get me started.
How many times have you walked into a public convenience to find a line of women standing there waiting… and waiting… while those occupying the cubicles appear to have decided to move in and live there! And while I’m at it… why do women have to go to the toilet in packs? I mean, yeah, I’m female – but I honestly do not get it. Fair enough, there are times when you need to take a mate aside for a mid-wicket conference – but why go to the toilet to do it? There has to be more to it than that…
Mid-wicket conference...I like it ;-)
I suppose if you’re going to gossip about men it’s the only way of ensuring that said men can’t see/hear you…but yes, especially annoying when such cabals of females are blocking access to sinks/mirrors/hand driers and will not move. The only places where in loo terms it’s better to be a woman are at beer festivals and cross races. The men’s queue at Koksijde was huge; I walked straight in to the ladies’.
also events at all female educational institutions
went to a disco thing at one of the Cambridge all-girls college once and they had plenty of female loos and one cubicle and one urinal for the chaps – just enough for the odd visitor and their caretaker
The shrubs in the garden were well watered though!
by thebongolian on Dec 18, 2009 6:55 AM EST up reply actions
Uh-huh...how long ago was this? I may have been there ;-)
So it was YOU in the shrubs outside my window?!
I take it all back...
Just been in the palatial disabled loo and it’s like a freezer in there. Most odd!
loo, wc, lavotary, gents, ladies
would all be acceptable, polite but less obfuscatory words – oh, the richness of the English language!
by thebongolian on Dec 18, 2009 6:57 AM EST up reply actions
'obfuscatory' is a gorgeous word...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
We'd hate anything that was non-U
Those Mitford girls …
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I'll tell my mother ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
pisser, crapper, john, can, porcelain god,
(to add to those mentioned above) how many words do we have for the toilet? Yes, it’s a great language.
Comfort station, commode, garderobe,
little boys’ room, little girls’ room, potty, privy, head, latrine, throne, water closet…………
dunny, bog...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
How could we have missed that?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
rofl
Now I know it’s the off-season. The Sesh has turned into a discussion of synonyms for toilet. I leave you people alone and just look what happens…
there was a promise to send this thread to the gutter
it actually went to a different place, it seems
172.5 mm
You said cranksize, right?
"My facking goat didn’t wear Robes! Does he look Scottisch?!" Baron von Frinkenstein
well, yesss
Happens that I did. I also have 172.5 on the road bikey. Could there be any more geeky bike dork measurement? Hey dude, what’s your crank size? Okay, I think q-factor is geekier. And no, I don’t know my q-factor, but I did make it wider. Dork!
I'll see your crank length and raise you one bolt circle diameter:
116 and 130 (on my two bikes). I dare someone to name the crank with the 116.
I am beginning to understand
why Italians love cycling.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'll be honest, my first thought was that it woudl be French . . . .
. . . . then again, Italians aren’t always the most conventional either.
It sort of depresses me...
… I can only just about guess what a crank size is, I have no idea what a bolt circle diameter does, and a q-factor sounds like something out of Star TRek the Next Generation…
I need to up my cycling nerd knowledge, pronto
"Q Factor" is -
The horizontal width of the cranks, measured from the contact point where the pedal is installed. The wider the “Q Factor”, the farther apart your feet will be.
This increases the Q Angle of the leg. It is generally considered a good idea to keep the Q Angle fairly narrow. The main reasons for this is the hip joint is optimized for walking. In normal walking,the footsteps are pretty much in line, with little or no “Q Angle .” Sheldon Brown’s Bicycle Glossary http://sheldonbrown.com/glossary.html
Which leads to "Q Angle"
“The Q-angle is a quantitative measurement of patellar position with respect to lower extremity alignment. Large Qangles are associated with increased incidence of patellofemoral pain.”
University of Glasgow, University of Strathclyde, Glasgow Caledonian University and the University of Paisley. Functional Anatomy & Biomechanics Glossary http://www.gla.ac.uk/ibls/fab/glossary/qangle.html
God save the queen, but . . .
. . . I live in Taiwan developing some of the stuff you guys lust over.
Every so often I get some ASME thread request cross my desk and I have to break the cold hard facts to a poor guy in the heartland that the entire world has just plain moved on.
heh
Can I have some carbon please?
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Campy Triomphe, circa 1985
aka, that for which new chainrings are very difficult to find.
175
I love long cranks.
Wait! No I don’t!
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
172.5
It’s how you use them that counts.
by Douglas Ansel on Dec 17, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Oh. My. God.
What IS that photo?
I think that image is now burned into my mind and will haunt my nightmares.
You have to admit, you kind of ambushed the straight male...
…and lesbian portion of the audience with that one.
LOL!
We should be very used to it by now anyway.
That looks uncomfortable
I am sure she gets lots of offers to help alleviate the situation.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, not seeing it.
I think you’re lying.
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
ok, fibbing then
’cause we are all looking at the same photo and no one is seeing a surfboard in it.
Adding
You should wander over to fanshots, btw, there’s a discussion involving lime jello and these photos. Just sayin’
hmm, yes
I did consider the vodka, but this idea did not involve actually consuming the jello.
Here I’ll help, Liquigas Fanshot Opens in new tab, natch.
wha...
in the end, some of that jello deserves to be eaten. i feel strongly about this. i mean, people are starving all over the world.
(plus, we really should help the boys get cleaned up, no? i’m a virgo, and i’d hate to leave a mess…)
This
Is headed in a dangerous direction.
by Douglas Ansel on Dec 17, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Startlist of the 6-days in Rotterdam
Bruno Risi – Franco Marvulli (Zwi)
Theo Bos – Peter Schep (Ned)
Danny Stam – Iljo Keisse (Ned-Bel)
Michael Morkov – Alex Rasmussen (Den)
Leon van Bon – Leif Lampater (Ned-Dui)
Kenny van Hummel – Robert Beikirch (Ned-Dui)
Jeff Vermeulen – Robert Bartko (Ned-Dui)
Pim Ligthart – Kenny de Ketele (Ned-Bel)
Michael Vingerling – Nick Stöpler (Ned)
Marc Hester – Sebastian Donadio (Den-Arg)
Arno van der Zwet – Geert-Jan Jonkman (Ned)
Matthé Pronk – Jos Pronk (Ned)
Bobbie Traksel – Jens Mouris (Ned)
Raymond Kreder – Michel Kreder (Ned)
Roy Pieters – Ismaël Kip (Ned)
Frakingly eeh good? I dunno. There where a lot quiters no?
Bos Dog!!!!
bring on the six day derby, where the goal is to tackle the other teams so they don’t score points. Woohoo!
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
The course of the race goes round and round. Round and round. Round and round
The course of the race goes round and round. Round and round. Round and roundThe course of the race goes round and round. Round and round. Round and roundThe course of the race goes round and round. Round and round. Round and roundThe course of the race goes round and round. Round and round. Round and roundThe course of the race goes round and round. Round and round. Round and round
It might help
if you looked at this.
And now, dammit, that bloody song is in my head. I saw such a thing described as an ‘earworm’ the other day. Well, this one is wriggling.
You go round and round
til you get senselessly dizzy. Next thing you know, you wake up in Rotterdam.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Cue Sui
with the dischordant love plea…
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
And the sprint series?
STAAAAAAAAND UP!
…ahem
Team OUCH -> Team UnitedHealthcare
I’d post more about it, but I’d blow the no-politics rule right out of the water, at the moment. And hopefully a few Senators along with it.
(See?)
god that photo is sooooo
village people! They are all looking so NTTAWWT – their poses, everything! Hilarious. Except for the poor guy behind and to the left of the dancer who’s embarrassingly trying to cover up and is like, “wtf am i doing here?” Pelizotti – ha ha! He’ll never live that photo down as long as he lives. I don’t care if he does manage to finish in pink in 2010. No, wait. ?
Does anyone know what they are doing?
I would assume advertising underwear, but the presence of the suit in the background makes it look all a bit rent boy like…
Awesome,,,
Though on the beefcake front, I would assume that skinny cycling skeletons with major league tan lines are a disappointment???
In that case...
… happy beefcaking… or perhaps, given the low fat nature of the meat in question, happy vealling.
I have to say, I wasnt turning my nose up at Miss Cycling, either
Except
for the fact that she won’t be riding in the Giro as an offsetting balance to the frankly alarming slathering over Italian Stallions that goes on in these ’ere parts
Gutter
It’s the only cool place for minds to hang out.
by Douglas Ansel on Dec 17, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent coverage from Bend, btw
And those interviews were tip top. Massachusetts cleaned up out West results-wise :-)
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
Oh yeah you do
Go during Christmas week
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
we are all of us in the gutter
but some of us are looking at our crank lengths
You call this the gutter?
This ain’t the gutter! Yo Frinking! Seahorse! Where are you pair? We need to send this thread into the gutter… show ‘em how it’s done :-)
Christmas drinks - the gutter is always a possibility...
I just worry about moving further to the right..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
But fun ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I must confess to a weeny little hangover this morning.
Just a little one. Headache you know. Five hours sleep last night. Feel like a zombie. And I have to go to work tomorrow! Bah!
Vitamin B, water, Red Bull
and failing all else, something greasy. In my case hot chips work best ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I also find that the better the quality (of the grog),
the milder the hangover.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It would be a fine thing if I had time to eat a full English breakfast.
All the lovely doctors seem to think it’s ok to order searches in bulk a two weeks before Christmas however, when I’m the only search person in the office. I am chained to my desk. And when I’m not here, or at a party, I’m singing yet more flippin Christmas carols! Bah humbug!
You lot have been out having fun.
Diddums.
Parties, Christmas drinks… and here I am, arrived home from work to spend a riotous evening making crystal beaded fucking angels. (gotta grit my teeth and get on with it, too… I need to get up early for Zurich day 4!)
Hope you're being paid for the angels...
I perused the Zurich threads. Fortunately I wasn’t entirely convinced… far too much standing up at four in the morning, so maybe I’ll be able to ignore the whirring of wheels..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Oh yes.
But I’m thinking that I should add a ‘tedium’ surcharge. Once again, my own fault…
Hmm.. perhaps I could do angels tomorrow morning while I’m sitting down to the Zurich stream… I wonder if it would be less painful Very Early on a Saturday, when I’m not yet fully awake…
Hmm.. perhaps I could do angels tomorrow morning while I’m sitting down to the Zurich stream… I wonder if it would be less painful Very Early on a Saturday, when I’m not yet fully awake…It is not enough to peruse the threads, Seahorse – you’ve gotta watch the action to see why it excites us so ;-). Do try to catch some of it tomorrow – it believe that goes through until about 10 or 11…
See how I go...
Do the angels in the morning. I’m told they’re likely to look after you, so you should be fine. ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
OK, now that is bizarre
I did not type that twice, nor was I possessed by any strange urge to copy & paste half of the text. (Although the word ‘possessed’ may indeed be relevant here!)
What did I say about visitations?
That said, I can’t see what is bizarre, so perhaps it’s only you who’s possessed?
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Really?
You don’t see that the bit starting with "Hmm.. perhaps I could do “ is repeated underneath? (With the rest of the text, starting with ”It is not enough to ", following on straight after the duplicated text)
Err yes, now I can...
Skim reading isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Or can I blame the Christmas party? Embarrassing.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Christmas ;-)
Gifts, decorations, suppositories for the client…
visitations...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Bahaha.
Well as long as there’s money involved then that’s ok. Adopt a mercenary attitude. I have to do this with Christmas carols ;-)
I'm still a sucker for a Christmas carol...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
There's a limit...
Until I was about ten, I wondered who John Virgin was.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
It says a lot about Australian pronunciation...
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
switch to O Holy Night (my fav)
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
Mine too!
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I confess to a great affection
for ‘The Little Drummer Boy’ too..
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
That's why this is a sort of guilty
confession. I know the difference ;)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
I was put off that for life
after hearing a horrendously out of tune wannabe opera star sing it several years ago…painful.
Mmm, depends on who is singing it
(Haven’t heard Albertina yet ;-)…)
Mostly, you can keep ‘em… but if the Queen is singing it, well, that’s a different story ;-)
(it’s safe, Seahorse! I reckon you’ll approve, even…)
I LOVE Mahalia Jackson!
Thank you for this…beautiful. Reminds me of the Proms though :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Mate, it may appear that we send the thread to the right
… but I don’t think that anyone’s gonna be fooled by appearances, do you? ;-)
You mean we're not good at being apolitical...
Well knock me down with a feather.
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
In that case...
… happy beefcaking… or perhaps, given the low fat nature of the meat in question, happy vealling.
I have to say, I wasnt turning my nose up at Miss Cycling, either
When is one of the GT's going to come to their senses and give the people (me) what they (me) want?
An uphill TTT.
I don’t ask for much.
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
But of course
I actually think the Giro bosses could be talked into this. Gav, set up a meeting.
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
lol
Maybe on the Zoncolan? Yesss, perhaps we should sit down for a chat with these people.
Yo Zomes, we got ideas!
That was the exact spot I was thinking of
I would love to see a team made up entirely of 9 riders. Just once.
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
Jimbo, were you listening to Gav's story?
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
Tour Mediterranean
Mont Faron ca 2003-2004
Does this mean Gav is the Walrus? The rules of this game are unclear to me.
What the fuck are you talking about?
The Tour de Med is not a Grand Tour!
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
It's in France isn't it? It's a Tour. How can it not be Grand?
I dare you to say that to Sarkozy’s face.
News flash
The Dude and the Cohens are teaming up in March 2010 for a remake of True Grit, with Bridges as Rooster Cogburn.
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
Coen Brothers?
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
There is an uphill TTT at next year's Giro
just look at this.
Well the average gradient is around 1% but you never clarified how steep the uphill is, you just said uphill TTT.
Look, it's a bird...no, it's a plane....oh never mind it's just fucking balloon boy
Don't make me get the shunning stick Phil
Aren't we forgeting the true meaning of Christmas? You know, the birth of Santa
like tour de med a few years ago
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
This entire thread
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 17, 2009 6:24 PM EST reply actions
so true
i love winter
"well...you live in england so: you love the rain. loves the queen. hates cycling. based on mr bean had a tremendous amount of humour. all ride in a mini cooper. all getting drunk before the age of 12. getting drunk at least 3 times a day."- frinking, 7/9/09
It's Belgium, mate
The dirt over there has a bit of a history, yeah? ;-)
coolest UXO anywhere
not that the competition is very strong…
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 18, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
LOL, I have real trouble
…with the concept of unexploded ordnance being ‘cool’. But yeah, I’m hip to your groove – it’s quite a collection, I reckon ;-)
Agreed
antique grenades are something different from the usual horror shows in about a hundred poor countries.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
by Chris Fontecchio on Dec 19, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
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