Six Days of Zurich--Day 3 LIVE Thread
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Well not on this occasion.
But I am waiting for a pair of mtb shoes I ordered the other day. Can’t ride my cross bike without them so they’d better be here by Sunday or else!
Confusing action, awful music, random cheering, sirens, balls loud announcer???
SIX DAY!!!!!!
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Don't forget the arm (hand) slings, we got them too.
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
Ahhh... madison racing...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Can the riders hear the Magnum PI theme music playing?
Cause if they can, that’s awesome.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
That would make me happy...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
I recently bought an LP of Mike Post TV themes
Magnum PI and Hill Street Blues are on it.
And Greatest American Hero.
You are such a dag :)
"How strange it was to see men doing something beautiful. Something pointless and elegant." Tim Winton, 'Breath'
Did the announcer say Daniel Halloway? I can't tell.
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
is this the definition of cross posting?
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
Daniel Holloway wears #12 & Stars and Stripes jersey along with his teammate
who is not American. Hmmm….
USA/GER team...
Daniel Holloway and Christian Siedler
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Attackkkkkkkk
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
I think what this needs is more people on roller skates and a nice big steel ball...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Isn't there some way to introduce a tennis ball cannon?
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
Technically, the steel ball is supposed to be shot onto the course...
… by a pneumatic cannon…
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
20 laps to go...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
you mean the siren?
Yeah, I think that’s it… and when someone attacks, they play with William Tell overture… I have no idea what they play the Horse Race music for
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Hondo takes it.
I think…
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Winners of the Madison ...
Danilo Hondo/Christian Bach. Except I don’t know if it’s the actual race or just a heat… or a specific distance. The German the commentators are speaking is nearly unintelligible to a non-Swiss. Someone fetch Will…
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
they won tonight's race but its accumulative each night too.
Sort of like winning a stage versus winning the entire TdF.
omg the swiss interpretation of cheerleading...
This should be horrifying.
How does this fit in with the atmosphere of a 6-day
i’m thinking we need boozy lounge singers, guys in leather pants with no shirts, and scantily clad women.
What's the old guy doing in there? Not allowed in the US
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
Last night a motorcycle performer crashed and damaged the track.
Took a big gouge out of it. They had to fix it with what looked like Bondo.
i don't get it
Last night’s derny race had bars that went off the back of the motos so the rider couldn’t get right on the wheel. These do not. What’s the difference in races?
In last night's race they were also riding unconventional bikes...
…a la 80’s pursuit bikes with small front wheels.
That was weird.
6 days are, afaik, NOT UCI races...
…tho I’m fairly sure all these riders have pro contracts at the UCI level too, and so are being tested.
I wouldn't say these are "afaik". Wait, what does that mean again?
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
as far as I know
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Go that way, very fast...
… and if something gets in your way, turn.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Riders are paced behind the bike and then on the last lap, the derny
pulls off and it’s an all out sprint. Top speeds with the moto pacing make it a hot item to watch.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
Thank you
Sounds pretty simple. Is there a good site that explains the ins and outs of 6 day racing?
Flahutes: Harden the F--k Up!
Mostly it's the gamut of track events, with some special things like the derny race...
…and a running tally of points over the days for the teams
I like this link...
Came across it last year .
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LOL. My understanding is that its about using your derny to slipstream and save
energy while getting very high speeds. Communication between driver and rider is crucial.
She's great, but wearing me and mom out!
She may be a vampire. Sleeps all day and parties all night.
So she takes more after mom than you, huh? LOL!
It was so good to see you at State. Wish we could’ve caught up more. More pics up yet?
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What!?! It wasn't anything like the year before.
And the bacon handups were hilarious. Along with the wipe outs, beer hand ups, twinkie hand ups, etc. It was such a great ending to an awesome cross season. I got to know your teammate Jake a little bit recently. He was out at Jingle Cross. You spidermonkeys are crazy!
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I am definitely not one for cold weather, so it was freezing for me
That was my fist cross race I have ever been to. I’m already scouting out bikes for next season and am definitely planning on racing.
He is similar in height as you.
If you want any info on it, just drop a note. :-)
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
And it was still really(!!) good to see you, even if not long enough!
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
Friend was just at Ghent and he said it was packed.
Didn’t sound at all like it was losing an audiance at all.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
Thanks to the German media overreacting...
…to the doping stuff more than any other national press corps.
Honestly, it’s as if they somehow thought that the whole history of the sport had been pure and clean and then the scales fell from their eyes all at once. Amazing how the return of the repressed really does get ugly, huh?
Yeah, they've really beaten that drum for all it's worth.
It seems that the general policy now is to just ignore the existence of cycling, unless its a doping story. Interestingly, I’ve never seen anything bring up how many of the German pros of a certain generation came up through the DDR sports system, which seems like an intriguing (although admittedly perhaps not that significant) angle to me.
Too bad I haven’t been following the news too closely lately, I’d love to see how they’re handling the Pechstein case.
riders singing with their bikes placed awesomely against their keyboard should be mandatory at grand tours
It gets better, the Argentinian rider is covering Jason Mraz.
This is quite possibly the greatest entertainment I’ve ever witnessed at mid-afternoon on a Thursday
I'm supposed to be studying for an exam
but frankly, when he stopped playing and started doing the overhead clap I decided that that was worth a couple points off my grade, if it comes to that.
Haha, thanks.
I doubt somehow he’d agree with me that this is providing a perspective on European culture as profound as anything we’ve studied in class, but I appreciate the offer all the same. :)
Ahh, the Six Day talent competition...
… can we get a cheerleader closeup for the single guys, please?
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Can't talk... cringing at the singing...
… can you imagine what the rehearsals for this Jason Mraz cover were like?
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
I get some audio but not much more these days.
Security has totally screwed my viewing pleasure of almost all things cycling.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
In just second, the second Derny race...
… apparently. If I understand the scheissdeutsch.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Yep... Dernys on the track
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
You guys know that
Daniel Holloway is streaming live from this too, right? Not great coverage of the even but some enjoyable laughs from him.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
You would think that Derny technology would have moved to the point
where the rider didn’t have to stick his knees out like Groucho Marx…
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
That would be more tradition than anything else. I would think
better exhausts would exist too.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
30 laps to go...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
It's not bike racing with Madonna...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
"The young swiss is not happy with the pace, he gets out of the saddle"
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Hey were the hell is peterfish?!?
I can’t believe he’s not here. And our derny to be buddy. These races sure do pull out some good folks!
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
Holloway in second, behind Hondo...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
There he goes...
… Holloway passes Hondo…
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
He's been on the U23 squad this whole time.
Has he hit the limit of that yet?
Holloway is trying to do it alone!
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
GO GO GO GO !!!!!
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
He passed it deliberately to try to get a jump...
… but it didn’t work out.
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Nope... swallowed up...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
"unglaublicher Teufelskerl aus Amerika!!!"
Can we get petition to get these guys for the TdF instead of Phil and Paul?
Yeah... these guys are calling everyone a "devil"...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Holloway jumped about half a lap too soon...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
He just posted that his derny ran out of gas at like 6 laps to go?
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
awww... old derny guy gets flowers too
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
This is a sprint. One lap each rider of the team with a hand sling (I think)
it was last night anyway
If looking for "runners and riders"
This link (2.2mb download pdf doc) can help
Pg 3 has names, jerseys, standings and program
http://sixdays-zuerich.ch/~aktuell/News_17-12-09.pdf
Also nice pic on Cancellara in advert on p 10 amd alarming thigh info on p 15
Daniel Holloway just tweeted:
@The_Hollywood Derny ran out of gas in the last 6 laps. :( went for it but no dice.
I just pulled up Holloway's stream, and he said his derny ran out of gas in the last 6 laps
“I went for it, but the 54×14 gets really big really fast. The driver may have crapped himself, cause I don’t think he knew what happened at first”
7:30 in the morning - I am NOT drunk
thankyouverymuch!
Morning... mphfglll
Got up too late today :-(. Off to the salt mine now… But you watch me get up at 4am tomorrow! (They don’t seem to do the STAND UP thing?!)
Oh that'd be right
… they play it when I’m off cleaning my teeth :-(
He is.
How’re they doing in the standings? It’d be cool if he could manage to win in his retirement year.
here they are winning as of last night. They won a 6 day a few weeks ago but I don't remember which one.
Thanks.
Yeah, I was thinking winning Zurich specifically, since he’s Swiss. Did not know they had one under their belts though.
Risi is Ze Big Boss of 6-day cycling
I am not saying everything is fixed but there are definitely “pro crit” elements. Local suspects winning quite often. Risi always has his finger on the pulse.
Aha, interesting.
I know next to nothing about track cycling and even less about 6 days specifically so this is all an education for me. I’d never actually heard of Risi until last month. :) (Article in one of the cycling mags I bought while in Flanders.) Not too shocking that there are “pro crit” elements given the general spectacle. And quite the spectacle it is. Although I have a horrible feeling I’m going to have “Zorba the Greek” stuck in my head tomorrow.
i highly suggest checking out Daniel Holloway's uStream that nikki linked above
he chats in between races. pretty random stuff too. Evidently, he’s about ready to go entertain the crowd
So, Halloway entertains the crowd by riding around with a long green penis glued to his back!!?
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Six Day Racing... the Dinner Theater of Professional Cycling...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
You should see some of the dinner theater I've been subjected to...
… this hasn’t quite reached that level yet. I don’t feel like these riders are prostituting themselves…
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Ahh, there is that...
…and most of the cabaret/burlesque stuff I’ve seen is of the punk rock revivalist variety… so the performers are totally into it. Yeah.
I'm guessing riding on a track on that bike, without hands, is quite a skill...
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Ciao folks - have a great Friday!
Once again, I shall attempt to work standing at my desk, in honour of any champions…

"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Does Holloway get paid more to do this, did he draw the short straw or is this hazing for the young lad?
It's an honor to do it. I read a story about it last year.
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
yeah, he's apparently very popular for it too.
Did it last year and people loved it.
Podium Insight did a story on Danny from his day at Philly this summer.
He is a character as you can tell from Lyne’s pictures. Story here
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
Daniel got the honor - and this is a HUGE honor -
to do this at a race last year after the lead guy I think got sick. Usually it’s a very high prestige thing for a rider to do the parade lap.
Daniel is great. He hasn’t updated his blog lately but personality he has. Great fun to follow!!!
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
Steh Auf!
"Jens! is my favorite rider. I love watching him handing out plates of hot, steaming suffer!" - Mahatma Gandhi
Really, both...
…the UCI came up with the brilliant ideas
how do the officials
keep track of who has been lapped
(especially given that they’re all drunk and singing cheezy songs)
Moo
from what I've seen lapping doesn't happen too often but
there’s a big screen with the standings. I saw it earlier.
Lapping on this size track happens nightly.
On our track here it’s outdoor and much larger and harder to do. Scoring is by laps then points.
I score it here when I official and it requires a lot of attention.
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I think nordic skiing relays had that at one point,
racing skier came in behind next skier to race, and gave them an almighty push
I would take that as payment. Would make the night a bit fun!
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
6 DAY RACING!
yeah I know I’m a bit late to the party
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What up nikki
any derny action left today?
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if any of the below means dernies, then yes:
21.35 Möbel Märki Américaine
22.40 Skoda Autosprint
23.05 Mannschaftsausscheidung
23.25 Bicycle Holidays Max Hürzeler Steherrennen
I need derny's again...and I need them now!!!
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you missed Dan Holloway's Derney running out of gas when...
…he was leading, and him trying to win the rice solo for like 5 laps. Didn’t work, but it was a valiant effort.
Must have been made by ford
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They race 220 laps. each team has 2 riders. One is on the inside racing, the other resting.
They change riders with an arm sling to give the fresh rider momentum. Every 20 or so laps is a point lap, top 5 riders to cross line get points. If a team laps the inside (racing) riders they get a lap. If there’s a tie in laps after 6 nights, the team with more points wins.
no. team is considered one rider. If you are leading and do a sling, you retain position as if
you never changed riders
Rider changes can happen anytime.
One rider can ride most of the night if the other is sick but it will tire him out.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
Sorry Phil sorry to inform you,
but I am hand-slinging to you the responsibility of counting madison laps OK?
(just see the official post by majope above :)
May this be why sixdays aren't pulling the big crowds?
Village People haven’t really had a big hit in a while?
the irony of the fact that YMCA gets played there, and at high school sports events...
…never fails to amaze me.
If I had good video I could score it as it went but no such luck.
Stoooopid security.
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On our track it's not so bad, as like I said lapping
takes some serious work as its a larger track. But to track the lapping really requires eyes on the course and it really really helps when you have someone who’s sole purpose is to track the leader. Once they starte trying to lap and others drop off the back yikes. Lapping for us is usually teams falling down a lap versus others actually lapping the field. Credits to officials on these indoor tracks!
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this might be a really dim question
but how well can you keep track of it when you’re riding it??
(I’ve heard riders come off say a points race & confess that they really didn’t have a clue where they were, for instance)
I'm not sure the riders can themselves. They can't see the whole track.
They usually have spotters (a coach or teammate) on the sideline yelling info to them. Or as the rider is up top taking the rest, someone is up there on the sideline yelling the info. Our guys count on teammates shouting at them from the bottom and our announcer yelling the updates as we calculate them.
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
After officialling the track this past year, seems I've picked up
a lot more info than I had on it over last year! :-)
I'm ready for this road season to wrap up. Bring on Cross!
Well done, I've got lots to learn
-restated
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The Germans are coming!
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How far are you from Zurich?
Srsly, you should go if it’s feasable. This seems as if it’d be vastly more fun there.
I wish
wrong side of country (and can’t make it) …. I should have done the grenoble 6 day …. and Geneva had a 2 day
Moo
And has to play the soundtrack while picking their next years team.
"Drawing on my fine command of language I said nothing."- Groucho
Ok. Announcer-guy just really likes saying "Bruno Risi und Franco Marvulli"
and who can blame him? Marvulli is a funny word.
How fun! The whole gang is almost back!
Man I miss you guys! A Lebowski quote fest was going on at a friend’s FB page and I couldn’t help but miss you guys even more.
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Yes the hey baby song!
7th inning stretch song at Rockies games
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Speaking of schwein
Just go further down the page that hosts the coverage. Bottom right artcle titled
Schweineköpfe, Ratten und Dildos
Onem click = Pic one = well funny
I'm a little afraid to check the article
given that the title translates exactly as you’d think it would.
I've been multi-tasking--didn't realize we were over 300 posts.
Want a new thread, or is this still loading okay for folks?
you should start another
Just came by to ask this very same question
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
I'm up and getting strange looks here at work! Ha!
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Stunt man who has doubled for James Bond
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Extreme dernying is the new thing
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