Andy Schleck #1. Then how far down the line do we look for 2 and 3 ? I can’t remember.

So Oclaesp has found a possibly illegal infusion kit. That’s the big news here. The other stuff, the syringes, etc, were known in October I think and there’s nothing illegal with them yet. No illegal substances, specifically HGH, have been found though they have had the time to get DNA profiles on users of the syringes. So unless they find some banned substance those DNA samples go nowhere even if they identify who the users were. That leaves the infusion kit which Johann has already denied is illegal. We’ll see, won’t we?

So to answer umwolverine’s question, it is not at al clear that there’s anything going on here, though the writer of the original article certainly hopes there is.

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Wake me up in february when they’ve done all the tests?

Everyone start hunting!

Lance rides for The Shack now!

He just missed that bullet!

;)

I certainly agree this is news, but nothing smells very fishy to me. Medical equipment has plenty of legal uses. And if they were doping during the Tour, I can guarantee you they wouldn’t dump the contraband within 50 miles of their hotel. I bet every Tour hotel has syringes in the dustbins afterward, from every team… from their vitamin shots.

I don’t fault the French authorities from inquiring, that’s their prerogative. I am a little annoyed about targeting one team in the absence of fishier evidence, but that’s what happens to winners nowadays — they bear the highest burden of proving their innocence.

What a level headed bunch y’all are. Nice to see this being treated with the seriousness it seemingly deserves.

I prefer Barbie Barbie stories

“Lance is a doper”, or “Lance never doped”, but I will say that he didn’t finally decide to dope in 2009. Given that, “IF” he did dope in 2009, he’s been doping successfully all along and he’s well practiced in evasion. There is no way that “arrogance” or “carelessness” could be a cause for leaving blatantly damning evidence in hotel waste baskets – I mean seriously. As for the the tolerance of delays and the suggestion that dilution of blood was taking place during the delay, I can’t deny that my mind keeps flashing back to that imfamous “shower” that he took while “credentials were verified” during the out of competition random test last spring.

given special bags in which to put their med waste. And then hand it to the testers.
was that the case here?

Then obviously they must not enjoy the likes of, say, “CSI” or “Dexter” on the former Astana while the French Authorities Against Doping do enjoy their forensics.

get everyone talking and accusing.

There is no new story or evidence here. This story was reported on October 13th of this year. The only new information is about the polypeptides and those are just Amino-Acid chains. I think they are just referring to DNA residuals.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/33290416

Every single high endurance athlete and coach knows that there are syringes and IV bags used to administer vitamins, medicines and saline for re-hydration and recovery. It happens everyday in everyone of those sports as athletes collapse or become weak from hours of extreme effort.

Its just certain parties in the French cycling, trying to make sure that the UCI doesn’t cut them out of next years testing. They just didn’t want the doping stories to die down.