The Curious Case of Nick Nuyens
The Fifth installment in the Pro Rider Trilogy*
Let's start with some numbers from CQ:
| Year | Team | CQ Points | CQ Rank | Age |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2003 | Quick Step | 218 | 248 | 24 |
| 2004 | Quick Step | 716 | 46 | 25 |
| 2005 | Quick Step | 763 | 38 | 26 |
| 2006 | Quick Step | 622 | 64 | 27 |
| 2007 | Cofidis | 584 | 77 | 28 |
| 2008 | Cofidis | 581 | 77 | 29 |
| 2009 | Rabobank | 416 | 131 | 30 |
That table of numbers is one of the odder tables you'll ever see. Let's go to the jump for some wild and unfounded speculation about what they mean.
First, what's so odd about that table? After a breakthrough season in 2004, Nick Nuyens first stagnated then went downhill. That would be normal if the guy was now 34 or so but this kid did this while entering his physical prime. That's the weird part. The fact that he's done this stagnation/regression thing with three teams now seems to point more and more to him rather than any team.
My first reaction to these numbers is wondering if he's one of those sad people who have a certain level of talent but once they get some success never develop further. They keep doing the same thing year after year and inwardly or outwardly (\o/ anyone?) blame others or bad luck or whatever for their non improvement. To me that's what the changing teams thing might be about: a search for someone who understands just how good he is. But of course, it's not them; it's him.
But maybe I'm just full of it. Lets look closer at each year to see if his races tell us anything differently.
2003: His first Pro Tour year. Riding mostly second and third tier races he scores a handful of top ten placings: Picardie (9th), UNIQUA Classic (7th), Memorial Rik Van Steenburgen (6th), and GP Beghelli (7th) before winning the Nationale Slutingprijs. He entered Paris-Tours, Het Volk and a couple others of similar stature but failed to score high. Overall he shows promise; Quick Step was right to buy him.
2004: Breakthrough year: Riding the same or similar second tier races, he wins four and places well in others. Wins: Ster Electrotoer-overall and one stage; Paris-Brussels, GP de Wallonie, and GP Industria & Commercio di Prato. Other high placings: Picardie (9th), Driedaagsevan West-Vlaanderen (7th overall), Dunkirk (9th), Tour de l'Ain (6th overall), Tour of Britain (3rd overall).
Again he also rode some higher profile races (and higher profile than the year before) but didn't do so well: MSR: 176th, T-A: 105th, Gent-Wevelgem-22nd, Fleche Wallonie-54th, and LBL:129th. But with a couple of these he showed promise. Clearly he was a bright new star on his way up. A step forward from the year before, which is what you should expect with a rider his age.
2005: Total major race schedule. He steps onto the big stage. The lowest profile races are Ster Elektrotoer (2nd), Tour of Britain (won), Wallonie (won) and a couple more. Otherwise though he is in practically every major spring race: Het Volk, T-A, MSR, and the full cobbles gamut including Holy Week, before taking the Ardennes off to race the Giro (he didn't finish that one). His late season is typical of a leading Belgium one day rider.
How'd he do with this tougher schedule? Good. A great start as he won Het Volk was followed by some decent placings at T-A and top tens at Dwars door Vlaaderen-Waregem ((6th) and Brabantsee Pijl (7th) and solid but not contending places at the Holy Week races-perfectly acceptable for his first go at those. Things continue to look up. Another small step forward as he gets used to the Big Time.
2006: About the same; maybe a dip. Riding about the same major race schedule he scores about the same as the year before: He races KBK instead of Het Volk but wins it. He doesn't do well in Paris-Nice or MSR but snags a 3rd at Brabantsee Pijl. His 17th place is his Holy Week highlight. No Grand Tours this year and gets some good results in his remaining schedule with a win on stage 1 of Suisse Tour. That's his only other win. Summary: No change in results. I guess he's thinking a new team would help him out so at the end of the season he signs with Cofidis.
2007: New team; about the same results. He was hurt this year, right? He stops riding for the year at ENECO when he was leading the race so I presume injury. Before then he rides about the same schedule as in his last few Quick Step year, modified with some more French races and the Tour of course. He scored a win at the early season Etoile des Besseges and a 4th at Het Volk, then a 2nd at Brabantse Pijl (clearly that race is made for him) and a 7th place at Flanders. For Cofidis he does the Dauphine and Tour finishing well into the autobus (way over 100th place) every stage but one. Doesn't finish Vattenfall then gets hurt while leading ENECO.
So with his new team he scores about the same in CQ if you adjust for the injury taking away points. He also appears to not like high mountain stage races one little bit. Good to know- and remember.
2008: A couple great results mask definite regression. Maybe it's the team as this is his last year at Cofidis. He scores a 2nd at Het Volk and a great 2nd at Flanders (his career highlight IMO), plus an 8th at Brabantse Pijl but other than a 9th at the Worlds he races a lot in races that don"t fit him well: two Grand Tours! He only makes it through 4 stages of the Giro before quitting but he does finish the Vuelta, managing 2nd and 3rd place stage showings. In between he does little stage races to no effect. Such promise on the cobbles but no direction after P-R. Frustrating.
2009: Back to a top team again with Rabobank and a schedule much like his Quick Step schedules but he just doesn't do much. Flat. Disappointing is all you can say (right Jens?) 14th at Het Volk, 8th at KBK, 7th at E3 (no Brabantse Pijl this year), 15th at Flanders, FNF at G-W, did not enter P-R, 8th at Amstel were the highlights. They were followed by numerous nondescript races and finishes, though he did go back to his old friend Wallonie and won it. Otherwise he was just pack fodder in the peloton.
So have we learned anything but looking at each year? Let's see:
- He doesn't wave his arms but the last couple of years he's been a cobbles guy only just like \o/.
- He just s ucks at stage races. I mean awful. And he's gotten worse. I wonder if his confidence in races like ENECO is now shot. Years ago these races (Ster Electrotoer , Britain and the like) were right up his alley. But trying to compete in bigger, truly mountainous stage races (Grand Tours, Suisse, Dauphine, Paris-Nice) seems to have royally screwed him up.
So looking at his body of work I see a rider who's money in a certain range of races but who tried to do more than he could and is now messed up in the head as to what he can do. Clearly 2009 was discouraging for Nuyens-and Rabobank. He's not too old; maybe he can adjust himself with age. Rabobank is a team with a lot of younger guys who can do what he does, or will in a year or two. I wonder if he would be better served on a team like Vacansoleil. Nuyens is good, a solid cobbles guy, but not one of the current greats. Is he in the class of Gilbert, Boonen, Cancellara, Ballan, and Devolder? Or is he a small step below them, more like Quinziato, Fletcha, Posthuma, etc. In earlier seasons, his wins were more in races when the true Big Boys were tuning up for bigger races.
But clearly his career stagnated and now is going downhill at a time and age when he should be better. Given what he did at ages 25 and 26, we had every right to expect him to do better than he has. He should be stronger and smarter and with his base talent that should mean a serious palmares. But it ain't happening. Did his Cofidis sojourn screw him up? How would you handle him to best effect?
*The Pro Rider Trilogy:
Prologue: Assessing Andy Schleck's Year
Volume I: Let's Talk J-Rod and Katusha!
Volume II: '10 Tour: Cav Wants the Green, But Can he Take It?
Volume III: A Quick Peek At Radio Shack's Chances
Volume IV: Danny Moreno To *Lotto: huh?
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He was spotted at the "road riders do cross" event
with a prominent pot belly. Four shots by Cor Vos: http://www.corvospro.com/ (click “Weg naar Veld” event)
Should not have left Quick Step...
He would have gotten some love eventually. I mean it could have been him up the road instead of Devolder in 2008 but that isn’t feasible no more. He needs a good kick in the pants to get going again.
He finished second in a stage in the Vuelta last year..
But you’re right.. He has nothing to do/offer in GT’s. Still he is doing pretty solid for somebody who only focus on the cobblesseason and WC
I'm not entirely sure it's a fair judgement
You have to factor in changing objectives.Sure you can rack up points in minor races but NN has focused mainly on the big prizes these last two years. If Devolder had run out of gas last year we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
There is a case to be made that he had a tough year with moving to a “complicated” Rabo-team and facing expectations he never has before. 2010 should provide answer if he is the real deal or not.
I'll give him a VDS team spot again if his worth drops substantially.
Like from 10 to 4. I like the guy but he did little/nothing for me.
No horn, watch for finger.
Yes, changing objectives is an important factor.
And so is team chemistry.
Definitely both are important. But his Rabobank objectives were the same as his last two years at Quickstep, plus his Cofidis objective in the spring were the same too. He’s had a good five years where his spring schedule was almost exactly the same.
I can see the Rabobank situation was tough; we all saw that with those stellar team tactics in Het Volk. Eventually though one can’t keep blaming others, especially if the others keep changing. But yes, this year will be a test. You think it will go better than last year?
schedule was the same on paper only
He may have done many of the same races but naturally he wasn’t focused on the same objectives for personal success. Boonen was always no 1 and whatever results NN got in the big races were bi-products of his work for Tommeke.
I don’t necessarily think bad Rabo-tactics are to blame too much, perhaps just problems adapting to a particular teamstructure.
I definitely think he will do well in 2010. Whether he can win the really big races is hard to tell, the competition looks pretty fierce.
So here's what you are saying:
When NN was at Quickstep he was not #1, Boonen was. NN served Boonen. Since then he’s been more riding for himself.
Given that I would think that he would achieve greater success after he left Quickstep since he was a) riding more for himself, and b) was fully in the prime of his racing career.
But the exact opposite is the case. Which is what doesn’t make sense to me.
I am totally confused as to what’s up with this alleged person.
This makes sense
Why do you think it is confusing? He did NOT have the pressure on him at GS and even less at Cofidis. That is what Boonen did for him. That is very different than him having to be the guy and being expected to excel. He is not a good leader, likely. He could learn or not. I do think Boonen doesn’t get enough credit for actually producing like he does in the spotlight.
The races might be the same but the expectations and such make them very different when you are the guy who has to come through.
Quick Step
I think the strength of the team – and of Boonen himself – is key there. Boonen has the knack for delivering his team-mates to wins in the races he either doesn’t want, isn’t on form for, or is too marked to win himself. Nuyens I think benefitted from that and from the overall strength of Quick Step. Teams are hugely important in the classics – maybe almost more so than the grand tours. Rabobank was knocking on the door at the classics this year, but didn’t have the kind of dominant controlling presence that Quick Step typically has.
Cool post – I enjoyed the read.
spot on
Exhibit A for what Nuyens might have accomplished with QS: Stijn Devolder?
"The road is our agony, but also our daily bread; and at night, when it is deserted and the moon glistens on the asphalt, the ridiculous dreams of racers like us pass up and down it."
--Dino Buzzati
Two things I love
First, a ten-part trilogy on anything having to do with cycling.
Secondly, the fickle nature of the classics. The margin between 2nd and 15th at de Ronde is razor-thin: a decision not made; a slight hiccup on the Eikenmolen; etc. His results can seem radically different, but I am not sure the story is. To win de Ronde (or P-R, or even G-W or E3) requires unbelievable form, split-second timing and instincts, and luck. Got two of the three? Forget about winning. Got form and nothing else? top 20 if you’re lucky.
That said, the trend is more than statistical noise. He has not flourished as a leading guy on weak or disorganized teams. And as Rabo emerge, he won’t get the mantle if there’s any Dutch riders on form.
"The only pain I got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is." Edvald Boasson Hagen
As opposed to a GT team
not being the designated top dog in a oneday-race isn’t automatically a deathsentence as you know. Multiple threats actually work in the classics.
Personally I would say this is a oneseason hiccup. Last year he rode well but out of the two, Chavanel benefitted from the two-man-attack of Cofidis. Hence a meager point-harvest.
He's got lots of potential but potential doesn't pay the bills.
4-6 points. I still think he could do big things but it might not happen, especially with guys named Langeveld and Boom on the home team. Boom wants to fill a similar niche that Nuyens does and Langeveld has shown he’s good enough for the cobbles. But without Flecha, Nuyens could become leader or co-leader. His advantage is that he knows the races better than his younger teammates, so I’d make him the leader or at least road captain.
The hardest element is determining what DSs are willing to pay for semi-unknowns. Rabobank signed Nuyens after 2nd place at de Ronde and with results like last year, they won’t be paying him more. But they must be paying him enough because he hasn’t left the team. So, if we were to model VDS after real-world cycling, he’d be worth his same score as last year.
Real World is what other teams would pay
He might get the same at Rabo but for something like VDS his value would be what another team would pay for him if they could get him. I think he could win a big race or two yet in his career. But next year? who knows.


















