Amgen Tour of California: Stage 2, Post-Race Chat
by gavia on Feb 16, 2009 3:57 PM EST
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lol
there was some surf, i had to go watch it ;-)
by gavia on Feb 16, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you must be
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well now
Levi sure took his ball and went home today, didn’t he?
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris... on Feb 16, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
portugal... algarve on the 18th
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Got to agree
Levi seems to know how to play well with others
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So this thing is now over
I guess we’ll decide the rest of the podium at the TT
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I really hope not
but you’re almost certainly right.
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unexpected things can always happen on the road
but I certainly hope this race isn’t decided by crashes/mechanicals or even the weather.
by Katiek on Feb 16, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say "over"
but not wide open… something could still happen
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like Rogers is the only guy with in reach who isn't on Astana
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only question would be whether this effort...
costs Levi. But somehow with the kind of support he’s got, I don’t see it. I think as long as he can hold everyone off in the TT, its done.
by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
geez, roll's starting to look old
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He looks way better in person
he looks pretty fit actually. TV makes him look like an accountant (not the good kind)
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks just like my accountant...
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I live in SF, remember
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
words I never want to hear Levi say again
“took all my clothes off”
by Katiek on Feb 16, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's the way
to rip a race apart. My gawd. Took it all on himself, the old fashioned way. Nice.
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Feb 16, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
geez, that jersey swamps paco
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rock
So much for their jersey defending abilities. Was there ever a moment when they had a guy up the road? Did it occur to them?
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris... on Feb 16, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the Versus guys could ignore Peterson anymore then they have
he did win the stage you know
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
some guy who crossed the line before Levi
apparently that means he won something but who cares, it’s not Levi
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better than a headline I saw from yesterday's stage:
Armstrong charges through rainy, rocky day
(oh yeah, some other riders were there too)
by Katiek on Feb 16, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think that ridiculous poll Vs did on their website a couple months ago...
…made pretty clear what the chosen narrative was for this season. And nothing shall allow us to deviate from that. It’d be nice if some of the other talented American riders, on Astana or off, got a bit of credit here, even the ones who have never ever ridden with LA before. And that’s, you know, allowing for the whole let’s only focus on the Americans in an international competition thing that ordinarily goes along with US sports coverage.
I have nothing against Lance or his comeback, but the way he’s suddenly become the only story that matters no matter what else anyone else does is beginning to seriously rub me the wrong way.
by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
get used to it
It’s the lament of a serious fan re. a sport that isn’t taken seriously enough. They will never stop talking down to us. Actually, it used to be worse, though Lance’s return is reviving the media’s old habits.
CQRanking.com, you complete me.
by Chris... on Feb 16, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but who got the courageous jersey
and why?
by Katiek on Feb 16, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boonen is a shoe-in
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The camera guy who knocked Lance down
if he’s still to be found
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
by ELVISGOAT on Feb 16, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to figure out whether there has been any sense to it so far.
WTF in God’s name did Basso do to deserve it yesterday? I mean seriously.
by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he showed up?
pretty courageous stuff that.
;-)
by gavia on Feb 16, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe he ordered
bolognese at dinner – truly courageous thing to do in california.
"I didn't look for him and I didn't see him. If you base your race on another rider, most of the time you lose."
Tom Boonen
by Drew... on Feb 17, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still no love for Levi?
He did an amazing ride today….
One could think Levi was not even a US citizen by the lack of press and
reports….
by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, did you hear...Lance is back
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well, even less love for LA....
I wish Jussi and Kellu have great careers, and never, ever will be hunted like some of the riders
by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will give Levi full props. He absolutely took that all by himself and ran with it.
It was almost Cancellara-like, except for the climbing and dragging Peterson with him.
by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't you been reading?
He only wins by sucking wheels or by decree from the corrupt commissars conspiracy… He can’t really kick everyone’s ass for real…
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Nice!
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Feb 16, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't you know?
He’s really a Finn ;-)
"I didn't look for him and I didn't see him. If you base your race on another rider, most of the time you lose."
Tom Boonen
by Drew... on Feb 16, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers looks like the dangerman to Levi now
With a good TT in Solvang he could take this thing if Levi has a bad day.
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Feb 16, 2009 5:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
True dat....Z too
absolutely. He climbed well today too. Bodes well for Palomar perhaps.
"....Up Sestriere on a rental clunker in jeans and loafers? Brother, lemme buy you a beer."
by Rolls on Feb 16, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Z was in second chase group
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Versus had him same as Rogers, etc
Julie
by JMatt on Feb 16, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pic from the Golden Gate – shame it was so rainy
by Katiek on Feb 16, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Podium question:
DId the tour tracker show the actual stage winners?
by ZoeRochelle on Feb 16, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
like, on the actual podium, live, on video?
by ZoeRochelle on Feb 16, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
live feed was cut pretty soon,
no podiums showed
by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cycling TV showed it
nice job Ctv
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i saw podiums today...
(and I’m still sitting at work.)
by cg. on Feb 16, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jonathan Vaughters tweeted this 4 hours ago:
Tom Peterson is a special kind of diesel engine. We may see the Little Engine That Could come out in force today. JV
by ZoeRochelle on Feb 16, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I paid attention to this when I was shopping for 1-pointers
# 22 year old Tom Peterson spit out the best lactate test at camp. Better than CVV and DZ. Interesting. JV 1:00 PM Jan 24th from TwitterBerry
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sshhhhhhhhhhhh
(don’t tell anyone. he’s on my VDS team as well)
by PopUp Rolen on Feb 16, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(ok, I won't tell cuz he's on mine too.)
by ZoeRochelle on Feb 16, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish the VDS deadline was, like, tomorrow.
I want to see everybody’s picks, and find out what strategies they went with in building their teams.
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lance on twitter:
“Another tough day at the ToC. Had a spill half way. Moto with a photog crashed in front of me and I t-boned them. Body’s ok tho.”
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on Feb 16, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Danielson twitter
“Good day. Peterson won the stage and Dave and I finished in a small group about 30 seconds behind levi. Getting my confidence back.”
Julie
by JMatt on Feb 16, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Levi let up too soon?
Seemed like Levi let up a bit early at the end, yes? Yeah, Peterson was going to get the stage, but he needs all the time he can get on the rest. Unless he figures today was an indication they got nothing on him.
Julie
by JMatt on Feb 16, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ha,
Levi did all the work, bridged up to the brake and was cool even after Peterson wheel sucked his way to the victory, not doing a SINGLE pull…
Imagine if that was the other way around…. You’d smash Levi here.
Levi is 100% class act, anyone calling him a wheel sucker or boring, just look at this stage.
by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well,
he’s still boring to me (I mean, we’ve got a whole career to look at), but I don’t think even the Levi-haters (not that many actually exist) could take anything away from him on today’s stage. Dude saw what he had to do, and did it. And without assistance. Respect due, to be sure.
He is still, however, short, bald, and not aggressive enough for his own good.
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right on
Levi does not always see a lot of love around these parts but I agree he is a class act. He has been getting stronger every year and when he get the word that he needs to ride in support he does so without much drama and when gets the green light the man can lay out some pain. To see him drop the hammer today was just great. I will confess to being more then a little bit of a fan but when you have legs that can do this kind of talking who needs panache?
by ETlite on Feb 16, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he was tired . . .
he went pretty hard up that last hill
by MarginWalker on Feb 16, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
man those sleeping pills worked well!!!
..only way to sleep with a head full of staples :-) Whats the idea of starting the race so early?? Took me more than half a page reading backwards before i could figure out who won…. congrats to the winner and the bald wheel sucker who wears the hemp jersey. Man you guys put you’re glasses down early…must be all the fat ladys :-) but there are six stages to go…now if Bruckenheimer was writing the script. Bodes well for a season of hard racing though don’t it :-) :0
errrr....am i supposed to sign this??
by Flatbagger on Feb 16, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I read it was so early because of the Golden Gate bridge crossing and logistics.
anyone hear anything different?
by ZoeRochelle on Feb 16, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Apparently it cost the race something like $100,000 to close the bridge. Caltrans had to put down metal plates over the expansion joints (so the rider’s wheels didn’t get stuck), and they started the traffic redirection at 1 AM or something nutty like that. Plus they have had special signs up for a week telling people about the closure and delay. They had to get it done early.
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
really?
You would think that for all that, they wouldn’t have been corralled into a single lane (where I am still in awe of/appalled by the rider who was bunny hopping drains).
Not even in the same realm, but those of you on the East Coast who haven’t tried Bike New York (Five Boroughs Tour now?) ought to. There’s a billion good reasons to ride it, but the relevant one here is bombing the Verazzano Narrows bridge near the end.
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they had two lanes
but that was all they covered up, not all six lanes. That would have cost more…
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i miss the stage today :(
i think will be a flat stage…
by semprenaroda on Feb 16, 2009 6:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, and it *still* makes no sense.
Not to take away from the guy at all. But why not Barredo, for instance, who pulled them up both climbs before finally crashing near the top of the second one.
by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did he have cancer, too?
his mom? uncle?
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because he's the home town guy
any more questions?
by Katiek on Feb 16, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did his hometown have . . .
no. I’ve already said enough for the evening :)
(I like BJM. I just think this jersey is thus far mockable, is all. Kinda have a weakness for that.)
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah nothing at all against ben.
But having a jersey that is a popularity contest because there is no discernable criterion for its being awarded is pretty unbelievably weak.
by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a popularity contest jersey
If you expect it to be something different, then you need to modify your expectations… Mocking that they gave the popularity contest jersey to Lance, or Basso, or the hometown boy (who is from Berkeley, not Sausalito) is kind of, I don’t know, mockable… But that is just my opinion…
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
[cancelling snuggies order]
No, I know that it’s a pop contest. But it’s usually one amongst some discernibly qualified group of people (as in, the most popular/biggest $$$ sponsor guy in the ultimately failed three man break would get it). The Lance thing was just stupid.
(Also, on rare occasions, it really does come down to a press vote. Witnessed the tallying a couple of times in GA (you know, when it wasn’t selected by the above method)).
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I say Podium Cafe
should have its own Snuggies jersey award for each stage.
I nominate Jimbo for todays snuggie jersey for his expert twitter coverage
by roadside on Feb 16, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I won something!
You people like me, you really like me!
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'd be happy to volunteer to snuggle with a cyclist or two
in the interest of PdC marketing.
by cg. on Feb 16, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe courageous for going on with the stage
after his twin brother was carted off in an ambulance?
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
considering the lance, basso succession
i’ve have guessed floyd was next in the series…
by cg. on Feb 16, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the photo
the wife & I were trying to figure out what it said….
by Rushfan on Feb 16, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't expect the 1st grader who created the design
to know that isn’t a good place to place the word “dead”
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
According to Motortrend
Ball has recently returned to R&R as chief designer . . .
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? well no kidding rock and republic isn't doing well
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he can design a new price tag.
Speed on the descent can easily be lost when you slam into a tree.
by flying dog on Feb 16, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed in the VS Cavendish bio
that Cav was wearing a pair of RR jeans. They had an R on the pocket. And yes, this means that I was looking at Cav’s arse, so have at it…
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, you're right.
I’m on the wrong computer, or I’d screencap it. Definitely the competition’s jeans.
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude needs to update his fashion sense.
Seven is (still) where it’s at.
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wear Levi's jeans.
But now that the stage is over, he wants them back.
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just look taller because I have hair.
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
an excellent point
Probably a better collection of heels, too.
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, so *those* were the pants...?
I’m so not going to complete this thought, for everyone’s sake.
by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wgere are all thr race reports of stage 1?
Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.
by Frinking on Feb 16, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
To clarify on the
Cancer Most Courageous Jersey
sponsored by Breakaway from Cancer (so Amgen)
Each day, the most courageous rider will earn Amgen’s Breakaway from Cancer™ jersey. It will be awarded to a cyclist who best exemplifies the character of those engaged in the fight against cancer. The jersey will not necessarily be awarded to the fastest or best cyclist of the day, but rather to the rider who best demonstrates courage, sacrifice, inspiration, determination and perseverance
In reading this it is different than I originally thought. It has nothing to do with a rider who is involved in the fight against cancer (fund-raising, famiyl memeber or loved one with cancer, etc.) but having the same character. Its all in the wording.
Remember we do not know everything that happens on the road. Ben Jacques-Maynes twin brother and teammate went in an ambulance to the hospital following and he continued in the break. Courageous, a sacrifice, inspirational, determinate and persevering? Tose who voted on the jersey thought so.
I just realized I am getting tired of the race organizers getting slammed after every stage.
by ZoeRochelle on Feb 16, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Not that I have any better understanding of this jersey we’re talking about but if the race organizers want to throw out a jersey like that, it’s fine with me. I’m just hapy for the race. I always have a hard time understanding half the classifications in the Giro too.
by ursula on Feb 16, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, yeah
i still don’t know what the intergiro is…
by gavia on Feb 16, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
It’s obvious, the person who leads at the exact middle point of the stage wins the most points for the intergiro, second gets second most and so on…..that is what it is right….right……right….maybe?
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Integers?
Sounds a lot like book learnin’, to me.
by Sui Juris on Feb 16, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
totally
and counting. i was told there would be no math.
by gavia on Feb 16, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
like, totally
i’m studying to be a veternarian, because i love children
by gavia on Feb 16, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a freshman in my fourth year at UCLA
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You got into UCLA?
Impressive
"I didn't look for him and I didn't see him. If you base your race on another rider, most of the time you lose."
Tom Boonen
by Drew... on Feb 17, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a quote
the start of the line gav quoted
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 17, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are easy
all the dopers who go flying off down the road in the morning but then slow down near the end to not look so obvious get given a rat. It’s sort of symbolic of something.
by Monty. on Feb 17, 2009 5:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So what did Brave Ivan do to get his jersey?
Maybe it’s a reward or showing courage in the face of all those cowardly anti-doping campaigners and bravely keeping his lips sealed when a man with weaker character might have been tempted to break down and tell everything.
by Monty. on Feb 17, 2009 5:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overall standings
Top 25, anyway. And the first 16 are all within a minute. Could be some drama yet.
1. LEIPHEIMER Levi AST 09.23’02" 00.00’00"
2. ROGERS Michael THR 09.23’26" 00.00’24"
3. ZABRISKIE David GRM 09.23’30" 00.00’28"
4. ARMSTRONG Lance AST 09.23’32" 00.00’30"
5. HORNER Christopher AST 09.23’36" 00.00’34"
6. BRAJKOVIC Janez AST 09.23’40" 00.00’38"
7. LOVKVIST Thomas THR 09.23’40" 00.00’38"
8. RUBIERA VIGIL Jos Luis AST 09.23’40" 00.00’38"
9. NIBALI Vincenzo LIQ 09.23’40" 00.00’38"
10. GESINK Robert* RAB 09.23’41" 00.00’39"
11. SEVILLA Oscar RRC 09.23’41" 00.00’39"
12. VOIGT Jens SAX 09.23’42" 00.00’40"
13. BASSO Ivan LIQ 09.23’44" 00.00’42"
14. DANIELSON Thomas GRM 09.23’44" 00.00’42"
15. SEELDRAEYERS Kevin* QST 09.23’53" 00.00’51"
16. MANCEBO Francisco RRC 09.23’58" 00.00’56"
17. VAN DE WALLE Jurgen QST 09.25’14" 00.02’12"
18. MOLLEMA Bauke* RAB 09.25’16" 00.02’14"
19. BARREDO Carlos QST 09.27’34" 00.04’32"
20. NIERMANN Grischa RAB 09.27’34" 00.04’32"
21. SCHLECK Frnk SAX 09.27’42" 00.04’40"
22. CUESTA LOPEZ DE CASTRO Inigo CTT 09.27’47" 00.04’45"
23. PETERSON Thomas* GRM 09.28’58" 00.05’56"
24. HINCAPIE George THR 09.29’01" 00.05’59"
25. ZIRBEL Tom BPC 09.29’02" 00.06’00"
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
According to yesterday's results, Jani lost 5 minutes
but now he suddenly is only 38 seconds back..so what is it really?
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, 5:06 behind Mancebo.
And Levi was 1:07 behind Mancebo, so Jani was 3:59 behind Levi. But Jani lost another 21 seconds to Levi today, which should put him 4:20 back, shouldn’t it?
Damned if I know. Were the times adjusted for the shortened stage yesterday? Or was Jani confused for some other Astana rider yesterday because they were all wearing rain jackets?
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CN has 6 riders from Astana who were in the first chase yesterday
Popo, Chechu, Horner, Levi, Lance, and Morabito…yet Morabito lost 17 minutes today and is now 21 back, so he lost 4 yesterday and wasn’t in the top group. They probably confused Morabito with Jani. Although Popo was also 4 minutes back heading into today according to today’s results. I guess yesterday’s results are very jumbled up.
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I just did the math on Morabito and Jani
and it works out perfectly for them to have been confused yesterday. Plus I remember Johan twittering that Jani was in the lead group yesterday. Not sure about Popo.
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, we will say they mixed Jani and Morabito up
but now one has to wonder about Popo, who did they mix him up with? Maybe someone from another team?
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, comparing the lists from CN and the ATOC pages
for Stage 1, Popo is on CN’s list of 1:07 finishers but not on the TOC list. Jens! is on the TOC list of 1:07 finishers but CN thought he finished 13:38 back. Today, Jens! is listed at +40 seconds in the Overall standings, so he was indeed in the front group yesterday—or at least is still being credited as such. Could CN have somehow confused Popo and Jens!?
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What a fucking horrible crime!
how can anyone mistake Jens! But that must be because Jens! was definitely in the front group yesterday
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth, Jens! is wearing #16 and Popovych #6.
Google is my domestique.
by majope on Feb 16, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ruthann is the one who understands this
See her answer to me in another thread.
by NE Observer on Feb 17, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Yesterday (stage 1) was just a nightmare for the race organizers it seems.
Before reading Phil’s post just above I came to the same conclusion that either Popo or Morabito were identified as being in the first chase group when it was actually Brajkovic.
by ursula on Feb 16, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quote of the day belongs to Ben Jacques-Maynes
Speaking of Levi going up that last climb, “He is like a motorcycle… a little one!”
heh
by ursula on Feb 16, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He is really letting that courageous riders jersey get to his head
"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt
by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
random comment
For those heading to Solvang weather looks considerably more decent than the NorCali stages. Mid-60s, partly cloudy. Not bad at all.
by gavia on Feb 16, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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