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"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

isn't it quitting time yet?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

not a holiday for me....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

gap still 4.15

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe we should have some predictions

Who’s gonna win?

Will the break stay away?

will Mancebo lose his lead?

I say Baredo, yes, no- but it will be close

by ursula on Feb 16, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

YES! Only rider in the lead group that trains on these roads.

Lyne updated that Andy, Ben’s brother is off to hospital I sure hope he is okay. Andy recovered from a horrific crash a couple of years ago.

by steph- on Feb 16, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I pick Cozza for the win

The break will stay awy
Mancabo will hold his lead

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

I'll take break stays away

Astana wants Rock to fry themselves, no point in helping out.

BJM to win – Gav picks with the heart

by Jen See on Feb 16, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions  

agree Gav.

Astana is not not worried about the break, let RR do the work.

I pic Barredo for the win though.

by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

look for the FresnOakland hoods

hanging at the corner of Bonny Doon and Smith Grade

by MarginWalker on Feb 16, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

With a name like that

I’ll be very disappointed if there aren’t any pirates at Bonny Doon.

by Jens on Feb 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Robobank off the back?

THey are climbinh now

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

an attack

I guess he doesn’t want to have the same thing happen twice in one day

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I suspect I'm the only one

who starts humming songs from Brigadoon every time they say Bonnie Dune

by Katiek on Feb 16, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

its only you

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Gargh, awful film!

Nice dancing but Gene Kelly’s Scottish accent was painful!

by Albertina on Feb 16, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

okay, now you'll get me started with the music man

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

astana drives the peloton... 3.16 gap

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

levi goes

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

nibali chasing?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

Morning all Sorry i'm late

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

ooh, storm clouds closing in at the finish

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

is nibali as small as levi?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

is that possible?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

THey look about the same size

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

nibali popped?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions  

Utterly

Now where is the rest of the break after Barredo and how far ahead of Mancebo is Levi

by ursula on Feb 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Did something happen to Andy S??

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

no. andy jacques-mayne

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

Hope he is ok… Phew VDS is safe

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohh not good...

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Tour Tracker

Anyone who’s watchin TourTracker, is commentary miles ahead of images?

by bradBordeaux on Feb 16, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

France

Anyone in France have better video than Tour Tracker?

by bradBordeaux on Feb 16, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

Bah, oui

Normal, c’est pourri Eurosport.pour cyclisme

by bradBordeaux on Feb 16, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

c'est grâce au retour de lance...

…que nous l’avons sur la tĂ©lĂ© en direct aux EU… sinon rien sauf 45 minutes chaque soirĂ©e!

by gregm on Feb 16, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Autres course

Mais on as aussi Challenge Mallorque, Dunkerque, Indre, etc, pas sur CTV, et en direct

by bradBordeaux on Feb 16, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

de la chance ^_^

nous il faut les pirater…. o.O

by gregm on Feb 16, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Levi is not the best descender,

but the Spaniards are probably even worse… Especially in this weather

by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

or contador... or valverde....

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Valverde lost the Vuelta podium spot because of the downhill...

mistake, sure, but except Sammy, the light Spaniards are not the best Sammy is different, a rare breed on the descends…

by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He's good but just more cautious

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Tour Tracker has a split between DZ group and Mancabo group

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

is Barredo going to be Levi's Gesink?

into Santa Cruz, like Gesink into San Jose?

“Work for me, I’ll let you have the stage…”

by gregm on Feb 16, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

so no more footage?

at least the cameras at the finish will work

by MarginWalker on Feb 16, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

13:26 PST

It’s now hailing on the KOM line! A group containing Armstrong is now 5km from the summit.

by MarginWalker on Feb 16, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

jmac!!!!

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

Barredo has popped!

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

And here comes Levi!

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

levi passes baredo

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

levi catching jmac and cozza

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

i'm following PdC keeps me up to date

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Levi has them in sight

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Cozza hanging on

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

or peterson

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

jmac dropped

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

How far to go? I'm already late for work

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

I'm staying

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

peterson. not cozza

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

How far is there to go?

They seem incapable of telling us basic things like that….

by Albertina on Feb 16, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

Its Peterson not Cozza

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

thanks :-)

We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
George Bernard Shaw, 1856-1950

by CycleGirl on Feb 16, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

down we go

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

i want to see the descent...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

here comes jmac

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

And then there was 3

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

gack -- commercials

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

20km to go,

Nibali will catch them, downhill

by Bruce Suomi on Feb 16, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

he can see the cars

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Barredo

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Feb 16, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

how much flat to the finish?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

go tom go

"...The mind has to rule the body and tell the body, shut up and do what I tell you to do..." Jens!

by Clydesdale on Feb 16, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

jmac cracked again

"...The mind has to rule the body and tell the body, shut up and do what I tell you to do..." Jens!

by Clydesdale on Feb 16, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions  

Tom looking pretty solid

"...The mind has to rule the body and tell the body, shut up and do what I tell you to do..." Jens!

by Clydesdale on Feb 16, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

I'd say good chance

Levi won;t care so much on the stage win

by ursula on Feb 16, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Levi wont cat n mouse it

but he will keep it pinned to the line.

might me too much to come over

by MarginWalker on Feb 16, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe so with Levi doing all the work

"...The mind has to rule the body and tell the body, shut up and do what I tell you to do..." Jens!

by Clydesdale on Feb 16, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

can't comprehend miles when watching cycling

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

"ages ago"?

2006 was ages ago?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

downhill TT for levi?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

1.20 gap to levi

"...The mind has to rule the body and tell the body, shut up and do what I tell you to do..." Jens!

by Clydesdale on Feb 16, 2009 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

quit posting ppl

I’m trying to watch the video! Argh!!!

by gregm on Feb 16, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

ha

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

What is with Danialson keeping up with the big boys at 1:20?

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

sunshine!!!

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

chase at 1.05

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

1:20 back

Lance Armstrong, Janez Brajkovic, Christopher Horner, JosĂ© Luis Rubiera (Astana), Fränk Schleck, Jens Voigt (Team Saxo Bank), Thomas Lövkvist, Michael Rogers (Team Columbia – Highroad), Thomas Danielson (Garmin – Slipstream), Carlos Barredo (Quick Step), Grischa Niermann (Rabobank), Ivan Basso (Liquigas), Inigo Cuesta (CervĂ©lo TestTeam), Oscar Sevilla (Rock Racing)

Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland

by natbla on Feb 16, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

Don't want to be a party pooper, maybe a little cynical

But an American race with an American guy in front with an American commentator..

Is Hallejulah America.. We can’t even see him…

But that was my last unfriendely word!

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Feb 16, 2009 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

armstrong group closing..1.05 now

"...The mind has to rule the body and tell the body, shut up and do what I tell you to do..." Jens!

by Clydesdale on Feb 16, 2009 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

why the commercial you dweebs?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

Who's driving the chase group?

Stuck at work with no video, relying on PDC. The only intelligent race commentary on the web?

by muk on Feb 16, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

think rabo?

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI

the finish into Clovis will be almost as exciting as this one!

by MarginWalker on Feb 16, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Their is a group back

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Feb 16, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

chase right on the tail

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

time to count...

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

1 km

Where the #@&$ is my Time?

by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

nope

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The bunch already finished in my stream

Some say the best things in life, are one the inside.

by Frinking on Feb 16, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

levi in yellow

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

more than a pi

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

pip..

"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind

by umwolverine on Feb 16, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

noooo

just pro racing, Enjoy !

by peterfish on Feb 16, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he was in that break all day.

Not like he just sucked wheel the entire time.

by Ed K on Feb 16, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure they can

And the commissars are in a big conspiracy to hand him the race, remember? Today totally proved that conspiracy theory…

Where the #@&$ is my Time?

by Jimbo... on Feb 16, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

First win of the year for Garmin(individual)!

and Levi never asked him to work so he should deal with it, Peterson deserved to win seeing that he was in the day long break and yet still mustered enough to stick with Levi.

"If you go (with a break), you can either win or not win. If you don't go for it, you definitely won't win."
~ Jens Voigt

by Phil H. on Feb 16, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

PLEASE SWITCH TO POST RACE THREAD

It’s that time…

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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 16, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

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