Amgen Tour of Cali Stage 3... LIVE!
by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 2:34 PM EST
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Another day, another big ol' ball of intrigue. I guess I'm already on the record calling for a successful breakaway, but given the profile of the first third of the stage, I suppose anything can happen. If this race were later in the year, Sierra Road would have a big banner with the word "FINISH" on top. For some pre- visuals, check these pictures out from 1996.
The other big feature of the stage is the ATOC's first-ever Central Valley stage finish. Modesto is farm country, or maybe cattle... in any event, it's a long way from Peets in Sausalito. It's also a long way from Sierra Road, so if the race doesn't overheat in the first couple hours, we should see a real bunch sprint, which I wouldn't mind.
And before we carry on with the "it's over" thing, here's a list of some names among the 15 riders within a minute of Levi Leipheimer on GC: Mick Rogers, Dave Zabriskie, Lance Armstrong, Thomas Lovkvist, Vincenzo Nibali, Oscar Sevilla, Jens!, Ivan Basso, Robert Gesink, Paco Mancebo, and Tom Danielson. Game Not Over.
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Sounds like
they cut some of the finishing circuits.
It won’t get above 51 degrees… boo frickin hoo!
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
from CN:
Today’s earlier start comes along with just one neutral circuit at the start and one, instead of two, finishing circuits at the end. These changes are to accommodate the schedule of the TV crews who are covering the race.
if I remember correctly Armstrong
was saying they should move the race to April, used as a warm-up for the Giro.
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Dear UCI / AEG...
The undersigned (technically undercommented) hereby request the following…
1. That the Amgen Tour of California be moved to a time more conducive to showing off the natural beauty of the State of California, thus allowing greater access and coverage of the greatest cyclists in the world.
2. That Bacon be made the official food of Everything We Hold Holy.
3. Crashdan be given a) Podium Girl or b) Sarah Duester or c) Emilia Fahin but preferably d) all of the above.
Thanks… love your race…
- Podium Cafe Members.
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by crashdan on Feb 17, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I refuse to sign that
unless you add something about me getting a free bike.
Thanks you.
Where the #@&$ is my Time?
Addendum to UCI / AEG Petition...
3.a. Jimbo be given 9 Pinarello Princes, eight maids a-milking, seven swans a-swimming…
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
and fangirls should get to be podium girls
instead of those model types who probably don’t appropriately appreciate the sport!
I thought they were all very much family
Someone posted a link to one of the podiumn girls a while back, complete with interview talking about her cycling family and Garmin-Slippie boyfriend.
I'll say it...
I’m going to fall in for some criticism, but I’m starting to think that the technical support for the ATOC may have been rubbish….this is not the first time its rained with low cloud during a bike race
by bradBordeaux on Feb 17, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
they are.
the planes need to be up to relay the signal from the motos back to the studio. No line of sight (for transmission) w/o them.
Hmmm
I’m still suspicious….in twenty some years of following cycle racing this is a first for me
by bradBordeaux on Feb 17, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Paris-Nice
having similar weather conditions have no probs airing the race live..
Apparently one motocam wasn’t even recording today? Sounds pretty amateur to me.
I refer to...key words...ALL WEATHER...30000ft.....point made
Skylink
Skylink has bought together the best technological solutions for each of the key system components: uplink receive; all weather airborne platform; downlink transmit and downlink receive.
Operating at altitudes of up to 30,000 feet the Skylink system requires a high gain receive antenna for the video uplink. A mechanically steered high gain antenna cannot be certified due to aerodynamic constraints, and is limited by only being able to focus on one uplink at any one time. Skylink has overcome these problems by using a state-of-the-art phased array antenna system (PAAS) originally developed for military radar systems by QinetiQ .
by bradBordeaux on Feb 17, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting strategy on getting video today
Seems like at the worst (no plane in the air) Versus will get motorcycle view tape to play at 2.
Team Type 1
Phil Southerland and Fabio Calabria both apparently missed the time cut yesterday. They found out before today’s stage.
Sad :-(
happy!
TeamType1 After a talk with race officials, the matter was cleared up. The decision to NOT cut riders was made AFTER sign-in sheets were made. #atoc half a minute ago from web
Meh
it’s winter. They need the miles. And they came a long way to get them.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don't disagree in this case except
it leads to some arbitrary stuff – see TdF history
formerly known as cyclingchallenge
But Fabio Calabria
has one of the best names in the peloton, and surely that should count for something!
Fabio Calabria's name in the start list at the prologue...
… kept screwing me up because I read it as “Fabian Cancellara”
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
CN:
11:56 PST
The riders haven’t even left the neutral zone yet, but one has gone down – no doubt the situation is not helped by the poor weather conditions and the fatigue the riders much been feeling after so much racing in the rain and cold. Edward King (Cervélo TestTeam) is the rider who has crashed.
11:58 PST
King is back up and rolling. He appears to be fine.
11:59 PST
Fortunately for King, the peloton is waiting up for him to regain contact before the race officially gets going.
11:59 PST
It’s official. The race is done with neutral and started.
This just in...
… Tour of California organizers have extended their reach and will now be removing the Koppenberg because it’s too steep and the Trouee d’Arenberg because it’s bumpy.
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by crashdan on Feb 17, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ha! I agree.
Try riding in the winter in Chicago. We welcome rain, because that means the temperature is above freezing.
they should have the power
to make the riders use VTTs (mountain bikes) and do the crazy stuff
formerly known as cyclingchallenge
sucks so badly not having any video...
12:04 PST
Bauke Mollema (Rabobank), Jeffry Louder (BMC Racing Team) and Cameron Evans (OUCH p/b Maxxis) attack.
some old-timers in the local bike shop...
…talked about waiting for Tour de France updates in the POSTAL mail from EUROPE.
Heh.
-Greg
Mollema!!
Apparently there are thousands of people on the climb. Hopefully some of them have iPhones and can email me pictures at podiumcafe@yahoo.com.
I am not kidding.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
what is CN looking at?
but we can see that another rider has joined him and there are now four riders off the front.
“we can see”? What are they looking at? Updates from a car behind the break?!?
CN:
12:10 PST
Our four leaders, now with 30 seconds, are Bauke Mollema (Rabobank), Brian Vandborg (Liquigas), Jeffry Louder (BMC Racing Team) and Bradley White (OUCH p/b Maxxis). They are still on the flats, but they are battling a tough cross wind and as they rapidly approach the climb.
They just read the CN update verbatum
Just spinning the pedals in the hills of Western Maryland
Is the ATOC funded partially by the state?
Just read that the Guv is preparing to lay off 10,000 state workers. Ugh.
CN:
12:15 PST 5.1mi/99.1mi to go
Five kilometers to go until the KOM. Two riders are attempting to bridge up: Matthew Wilson (Team Type 1) and Francisco Mancebo (Rock Racing).
CN:
12:17 PST
Unfortunately, no luck for Mancebo – they’re not letting him get away. The two bridgers are caught and the leaders’ margin is shrinking. It’s now at 20 seconds.
The lockdown
Astana/Bruyneel… no fun for you!
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions
Four stages in and I'm still reading ATOC
as AOTC (Attack of the Clones). You try living with a couple of Star Wars geeks.
Google is my domestique.
CN:
12:21 PST
Mancebo, still showing his toughness, is dangling just off the front of the main peloton. Meanwhile, at the back of the pack, Edward King (Cervélo TestTeam) abandons. Maybe he really wasn’t doing so well after that crash in the neutral start zone?
Love to know who's being shelled
Most likely they will catch up to the peloton but still that’s always interesting
well, he still in contention
and a danger man to LL and the rest of the Astana squad – so the mountain jersey is not the only thing is aspiring to.
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from Velonews
12:28 PM: Speaking of Mancebo
who is working to ride away from an uncooperative peloton, he may have reason to be concerned.
He has been mentioned – as has his Rock Racing teammate Tyler Hamilton – as possible suspect in the Operacion Puerto investigation. A Spanish court today gave investigators the green light to carry on with the case, meaning that the three-year-old scandal may rear its ugly head again. They do say the wheels of justice turn slowly, but dang, this is ridiculous.
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trust isn't the issue - it's the slow process
and the never ending blowback from the investigation.
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From Slipstream's Allen Lim's Twitter
2 km to top. Riders are all in cars. This decent is going to be wild with riders trying to get back on.
1 minute ago from TwitterBerry
Lots of riders getting dropped. Its gonna be a long day for some.
"riders are all in cars"
Ha Ha sounds so funny.
We know what it means, but at first read sounds like EVERYONE suddenly abandoned !
Why did Garmin's bike sponsor (Jim Felt) just say Levi gave Peterson the stage
Peterson had Zabriskie, who at the time was third place behind Levi, in the chase group. Of course he was not going to take any pulls and widen that gap. And then he had to blow around him at the end to take the first place time bonus away from Levi to lesson the gap to Z.
I don’t get how people are bagging on Peterson for smart, tactical riding, especially his own bike sponsor
no bagging, Peterson rode an awesome stage,
however Levi obviously did not contest sprint he had no need to.
I don't think he could have contested the sprint if he wanted to
Little dude was going full tilt for about 20 kilometers
Mancebo revcovered
after the other two caught him
We came to get down, so jump around!
by MarginWalker on Feb 17, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
good point, however my point is Levi did not even TRY to sprint one little bit,
he had no need to, that however does not take anything at all away from Peterson’s win, that Levi did not contest sprint
Did Levi challenge Peterson at the line?
Haven’t had a chance to watch the video yet (though I gather that there isn’t much to watch), but did Leiphemer challenge Peterson as the finish? If not then…
That’s different to Peterson sat on (as he should have), he sprinted, and Leiphemer tried to counter but could not.
Either way its a win for Peterson. He won that stage based first and foremost on his tactics. That’s what put him in the position to be able to be the only guy left, sitting on the wheel of someone more interested in gathering time for GC than a stage win.
It’s often not the strongest and fastest that win, isn’t that part of the attraction of cycling?
CN:
12:37 PST
Looks like Mancebo is really not with the lead group of four. He has been reabsorbed by the peloton. Sorry for the confusion. It’s tough for us to get information today due to the poor weather, which is hampering radio communications.
What a mess again
wow
the live feed (lance) was suddenly loud. (bad news when you’re trying to discretely watch it in your office with no one noticing!)
CN says pasture on either side,
Chris above says Modesto is farm country/cattle country – so does anyone know if the race course goes over any cattleguards today – those could be very sketchy in the rain.
Must rattle Andreu a bit...
all this coverage of Lance, you know…with his wife and all
From VN:
#
12:42 PM: Astana
has sent a rider into the break. It looks like Chechu Rubiera has moved up into the group. Aside from Rubiera (at 38 seconds) the best placed man in the break is Mollema, who started the day at 2:14 back.
yay chechu
"Wizard's first rule. People are stupid. They will believe anything they want to be true or fear to be true." -- Terry Goodkind
CN:
12:46 PST 13.0mi/91.2mi to go
A Liquigas rider, from the peloton, has gone flying off the side of the road in a crash on the descent. We’ll try to find out who crashed and if he is ok.
I read something that said
that the roads on the decent are narrow with NO gardrails.
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actually it was the CN ticker
After the climb, the racers will face some tricky terrain. There will be quite a bit of flat riding in today’s stage, but much of it will be along very narrow roads, some made even narrower by mudslides. It won’t be a trip for the faint of heart as many of the roads are lined with steep cliffs, but feature no guardrails.
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I can't decide what would be worse,
a little cyclocross (albeit nasty cross) or a vault over a guard rail and the subsequent air time…..
Not that like either option…
by Christopher See on Feb 17, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
man I am nervous today, I quickly scanned your comment and read "crested" as "crashed"
for a second I am thinking Oh no peloton crashed
CN:
12:55 PST 15mi/89.2mi to go
There has been a second crash involving a rider in the peloton. Ian Macgregor (Team Type 1) is down, and an ambulance is with him. There is also an ambulance with the Liquigas rider, but we still don’t know which rider went down. Our four leaders have increased their gap to 1.15.
CN:
13:00 PST
We have more information about the second rider who crashed on the descent. It was not a Liquigas rider after all, but it was Omer Kem (Bissell Pro Cycling).
VN:
The gap
It’s always hard to get a time gap over a descent, but at the bottom it appears the gap for our four is well over a minute. We will get a better time stamp once everyone is safely down.
CN:
Current situation
Bauke Mollema (Rabobank), Brian Vandborg (Liquigas), Jeffry Louder (BMC Racing Team), Bradley White (OUCH p/b Maxxis)
Peloton at 1.15
teh tour tracker is getting old
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
I stand corrected.
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore." -- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
Ok, is anyone starting to think....
THIS SUCKS!!!!
If Paris-Roubaix had ‘intermittent’ video interruptions there would be riots…
PLUS
In order to be ‘intermittent’ there would have been to be at least 5 sec of live video to begin with!!
by bradBordeaux on Feb 17, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sure but
As nice as this race is, it’s a long, long way from the Queen of the Classics.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
if there was even, like, a 10-minute video interruption of P-R, we’d likely instantly forget that there were these long blocks of time with no video in the ToC. Such an interruption of P-R would be a true calamity.
VN:
At 26 miles
Just heard from Neal Rogers in the caravan. The leaders are at about the 26 mile mark, and the latest split has them at 2 minutes. They are approaching a good-sized climb (uncategorized) then a sprint at Livermore. Neal will send in a pic in a second that we will post to twitter
CN:
13:16 PST 25.6mi/78.6mi to go
Robert Gesink (Rabobank) has a flat. Hopefully he can get a quick wheel change as he is currently leading the best young rider competition.
13:20 PST
At long last, we have some KOM #1 results for you. Thanks for your patience as we’ve been trying to get them! These are from Sierra Road, way back at the start of the race.
1 Francisco Mancebo (Rock Racing)
2 Bauke Mollema (Rabobank)
3 Bradley White (OUCH p/b Maxxis)
4 Jeffry Louder (BMC Racing Team)
5 Pieter Weening (Rabobank)
6 José Luis Rubiera (Astana)
7 Christopher Horner (Astana)
Current situation
Bauke Mollema (Rabobank), Brian Vandborg (Liquigas), Jeffry Louder (BMC Racing Team), Bradley White (OUCH p/b Maxxis)
Peloton at 2.20
Just in....
Finishing straight at Modesto shortened due to intermittent weather conditions, riders will be asked to pause and await video link establishment before proceeding with sprint….
which will not be aired live…or intermittently live…..
by bradBordeaux on Feb 17, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure there's a real reason why we don't have video...
It could be financial, technical, legal, bureaucratic… it might even be a good reason.
Somebody knows. Somebody is in the middle of it… somebody is having a very, very bad day at work, their hands tied!
is there a reason we don't usually get video from the start of a stage?
Many races we join them in progress…
Would someone post when cycling.tv is up. I am reading the live threads but am at work.
Can’t check the feed but can listen when it is up. Thank you.
CN:
13:28 PST 30mi/74.2mi to go
The break is just a few miles outside of Livermore. If that name sounds familiar, it might be because it’s the location of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. In about seven more miles, they will contest the first sprint of the day.
13:30 PST
We’ve got some interesting action back in the main peloton. Lance Armstrong is riding naked on a tandem with special guest David Walsh. We think maybe the cold and rain is finally getting to these guys after several days.
13:31 PST
Ok, ok, we’re just kidding. So you can all delete those emails to the commentator you’ve started writing. We just wanted to make sure you were paying attention.
13:32 PST
While we’ve been clowning around, our leaders have been taking things very seriously. Their efforts have netted them an increased gap – up to four minutes now.
Current situation
Bauke Mollema (Rabobank), Brian Vandborg (Liquigas), Jeffry Louder (BMC Racing Team), Bradley White (OUCH p/b Maxxis)
Peloton at 4.00
Caduta!
Looks harmless, as they were going uphill, but the bowling pins went over pretty quick. They’re trying to see if Levi was involved. Definitely astani.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions
And in Finland
They’ve already identified Leipheimer as being in the crash.
When we’re watching the race by the roadside, will Bruce know what we’re seeing before we do? Is this a time-space continuum thing?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions
funny tho
when you go to Finland, the gap seems to be in reverse a couple of… ehm… years
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on Feb 17, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
Two weeks in Joensuu made me do it
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on Feb 17, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it was in the summer
And it was really hot, and a lot like Sweden, but strange anyway
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on Feb 17, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Levi and Lance
touched wheels. I guess those three years off didn’t do much for his bike handling…
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions
back in my bmx days, we'd shout "brake check!" to the guys behind and then come to a sudden stop.
Better was to swing out the wheel-changing lever on the brake caliper (rear brakes only) on your buddy’s bike when he was up on the starting gate.
Just sayin’.
Not a problem
Everyone’s fine and Levi’s coming up.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions
So
Am I happy that there’s live video, or pissed that the only portion of the race they couldn’t show us was Sierra Road?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 4:40 PM EST reply actions
we will have to watch video replay to know
(hope there is one – I heard one camera did not record as too much rain ! )
Ahhh... knowledge
Wikipedia about Livermore: “The city is noted for one world record. A 105+ year old 4-watt lightbulb called the Centennial Light housed by the Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Department is still burning bright.”
Bork, bork, bork!
Oh yeah... I remember reading about the Centennial Light...
… it is treated with some serious reverence by the members of that Fire House. I think it has it’s own dedicated power source and power line conditioner so that it gets fed an extremely smooth amount of energy.
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
Also home to nuclear testing facilities of some sort as i recall...
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
Yep... I remember those even from when I was a little kid...
… anytime we’d drive down to Los Angeles from Napa we’d take 580 through Livermore and I remember seeing all the different funky kinds of windmills they had.
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
He's too close to the lead
some 2’ down.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Morning all....
I have it on good authority that Saxo Bank will be putting a bit of effort in tomorrow to try and make up a certain 40 second gap….thought it unusual that Lance didn’t go banana’s at the offending Moto Cam yesterday then realised it was Liz K
errrr....am i supposed to sign this??
on replay of Levi's crash which again they just showed,
he almost got his foot down and saved it, well not really, but a little bit he almost saved it
OK, what was that?
Some Rabo rider… looked like he was blowing chunks? Or what?
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions
Mollema
in virtual yellow!
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions
Hey I just realised if you scroll over the tour profile on the Tracker
the mountain doesn’t look steep anymore :-)
errrr....am i supposed to sign this??
Cool
Let’s help the sprinters
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on Feb 17, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I just realized that if you turn the sound down..
the commentary is better
by bradBordeaux on Feb 17, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
That was nice of him
Bag his KOM points and leave the break alone.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
according to CNews you mean?
and yes, though they are just speculating as we are I think, as to why he did that
See.....when given an option one rides on the left hand side of the road
what’s wrong with the majority of the world!!!!
errrr....am i supposed to sign this??
hey crashdan,
as the are riding in farm country/cattle country – do you know if the race course goes over any cattleguards today – those could be very sketchy in the rain
search cattleguards
Someone was mentioning them at some point.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
The parcourse will be filthy with cattleguards until Friday...
All the country roads have them, particularly on tomorrows stage over on Highway 49 and the western foothills of the Sierras. The riders should expect at least 10 or 15 feet of straight away (5 meters or so) prior to a grating though to get themselves in order. There have been several times I’ve managed to just right the Triumph into a straight line before zipping over them. And that was when it was dry.
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
even worse than a wet cattleguard,
is when they cover them with plywood, like a race I was in once: wet plywood=carnage everywhere !
one of the highlights of racing bikes in norcali
or not.
what he said: oodles of cattle guards. hop ’em if you can. otherwise, sketch.
I used to live near sierra road
and would ride back by the Calaveras resevoir – I know there were some cattleguards on that road so I would imagine there are some elsewhere on the course
You *might* be able to trade Lance's TT bike
for one of those V. int’l business class seats they’re touting on the tracker . . .
How many snuggies for the bike?
Bork, bork, bork!
by TheFigurehead on Feb 17, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Said Levi upon seeing the crowds after dismounting his prologue machine...
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
ok
that was good.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Unless
you’re a migratory bird. Just sayin.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you only defended the rights of things with gills...
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
This is about the only time of the year those hills look green...
… the rest of the time they are California Chaparral Brown…
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
Contador gave a press release yesterday before the stage,
saying Levi’s victory here looked complicated.
JB will have his hands full with his stars…
With a GC classification lead of... uh... with a Lead of... I mean a stage lead... well...
… uh…
Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.
Did the Volvo commercial say "more smiles per gallon"?
Jebus… That’s false marketing right there
Bork, bork, bork!
hey cg you still there ? and at work?
or did they fire you yet ? tour tracker just had ANOTHER very loud ad !
Those are really nasty
I had the video and commentary on pause while I did something else, but the ads still kept coming through.
Peloton at 4.30
Break of 4: Bauke Mollema (Rabobank), Brian Vandborg (Liquigas), Jeffry Louder (BMC Racing Team), Bradley White (OUCH p/b Maxxis)
…one, instead of two, finishing circuits at the end. These changes are to accommodate the schedule of the TV crews who are covering the race.
It's not really a circuit unless you do it more than once...Duh!!!
errrr....am i supposed to sign this??
no its a lap
but who cares ( and really I don’t know I am just trying to cause trouble – is it working ? )
PLEASE SWITCH TO SECOND LIVE THREAD
Before the bugs start biting.
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by Chris Fontecchio on Feb 17, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions
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